The York on Fulwood Road, Broomhill kitchens are now fully up and running, and we offer a wide range of food from Noon until 7pm, all at very cool prices. certain items are also available beyond 7pm too, like toasties:)

WE RECOMMEND OUR DAILY SPECIALS £4.50 and you get PLENTY of it!!!
(SEE CHALKBOARD IN PUB)
So far we have put on Shepherds Pie in Guinness, Turkey Casserole with White Wine, Beef in 'Mystery Ale' stew, Vegetable and Pesto Pasties, Beef Chilli, and various Curry dishes, Sausage in Cider and Onion Gravy)
and many more to come....

Snacks, Starters and Light Bites
Soup, served with freshly cut bread: £2.50
Pate, served with toast and salad garnish: £2.50
Toasties, with 2 fillings from Cheese, Ham, Onion, Beans, Branston, Tomato: £2.50
Sandwiches, with freshly cut bread and salad: £2.50 - Mature Cheddar Cheese and Branston, Tuna Mayo, or our Daily Special
Burger and Wedges, served with salad: £3, or £3.50 for a double burger with cheese
Garlic Bread / Potato Wedges: £1.50

ENJOY!!:)

all looks good, but it seems people can eat for free in that area at the moment, free soup and roll starter at the south seas (mon-fri), and then a little walk and a free main at the notts (tues/thurs)......all we need is another pub to start doing free desserts!

wash these meals down with some free tap water and you're being kept for nothing...maybe the next pub will offer free accomodation... :thumbsup:

all looks good, but it seems people can eat for free in that area at the moment

.if people can't afford to eat, they cant afford to drink, and nothing given away is going to change that fact.....you can try hard to get punters in the doors with free incentives but it can lead to price wars which is never any good for anyone. So we wont be offering free food as such, although we do provide free nibbles and snacks for student Societies and anyone wishing to use our up and coming meeting room facilities.....

looks nice! where abouts is it?

.if people can't afford to eat, they cant afford to drink,
if people before these offers could only afford to do one or the other, then thats true, but now with these offers people can afford to be a little more sociable, its not a choice of either/or no more, its both! buy a drink get some free grub, its great. you dont seem to get much for free nowadays, so you have to make the best of it whilst its on offer :) only a shame i live two buses away otherwise id eat at the notts every tues and thurs, for the cost of a drink its cheaper (and nicer :D ) than me cooking a meal at home, plus the benefits of meeting new people, not having to wash up and saving on energy bills whilst out the house. dont get me wrong your menu looks nice, and im sure it will go down well with people. im just tightfisted and dont like spending money when i dont have too :hihi:

Napoleons Casino on Eccy Rd do a free curry one night and a free roast and all the trimmings another night. Entry is free by the way. They're also known to give out free soft drinks in the Casino area...Only hitch is that they serve it at 12 midnight...but I guess once your bodyclock gets adjusted it wont be a problem....If you know what you're doing gambling wise you could come out full up and in profit! Can anyone do better than this for a deal? haha

dont get me wrong your menu looks nice, and im sure it will go down well with people. im just tightfisted and dont like spending money when i dont have too :hihi:

Yes this is very true. Times are hard for sure these days.......but do check out our menu soon, its not too expensive and we think worth every penny. I have just sampled one of our superb Daily Specials myself and cannot get enough of it!!!

Home made chocolate with raisins is also coming soon.......now that is just beautiful.....

PS That may sound like a shamless plug......and it is:)

Hi sorry if I am hijacking this thread of yours Goldenfleece. Thought it would make a nice change for someone to hijack yours as apposed to you taking over every thread remotely mentioning a pub. The offer at the South Sea is a genuine offer as a thankyou for the customers that have supported over the the last difficult 12 months and a warm welcome to new customers. How you can suggest that this is 'trying too hard' is beyond me.This is a short term offer till our new carvery is up and running.This is not meant to be a big advert for the South Sea just the facts about the free offer. For someone like yourself who has been in the trade for such a short time it is becoming a little tiresome to read about how everyone else in the licenced trade is doing it wrong, and how we should all be following the Goldenfleece model. Hope you think about this post and concentrate on making the York a success and stop telling every one else what they are doing wrong.

How you can suggest that this is 'trying too hard' is beyond me.This is a short term offer till our new carvery is up and running.This is not meant to be a big advert for the South Sea just the facts about the free offer. For someone like yourself who has been in the trade for such a short time it is becoming a little tiresome to read about how everyone else in the licenced trade is doing it wrong, and how we should all be following the Goldenfleece model.

Actually I was responding to the comments about our menu and about pubs offering free food in the area, which was effectively an invitation to explain why we are not going down the free food route. This route would not be right for us is all I intended to put across:)

Hi sorry if I am hijacking this thread of yours Goldenfleece. Thought it would make a nice change for someone to hijack yours as apposed to you taking over every thread remotely mentioning a pub. The offer at the South Sea is a genuine offer as a thankyou for the customers that have supported over the the last difficult 12 months and a warm welcome to new customers. How you can suggest that this is 'trying too hard' is beyond me.This is a short term offer till our new carvery is up and running.This is not meant to be a big advert for the South Sea just the facts about the free offer. For someone like yourself who has been in the trade for such a short time it is becoming a little tiresome to read about how everyone else in the licenced trade is doing it wrong, and how we should all be following the Goldenfleece model. Hope you think about this post and concentrate on making the York a success and stop telling every one else what they are doing wrong.

Thank you Hunky Dory > At last someone has dared to speak out against the 'Self Proclaimed King Of Cask Ale and Consciousness Etching'

You can either play nice and civil or be deleted,that includes insulting forum representatives.

Thank you Hunky Dory > At last someone has dared to speak out against the 'Self Proclaimed King Of Cask Ale and Conciousness Etchting' (

Strikes me the representation of other pubs on here has increased in the wake of GFs postings so

a. pot, kettle etc

b. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

Our range of Daily Specials is being added to all the time, and some fantastic dishes coming in the next few weeks:)

Plus Broomhill Tea Rooms area of the Pub is now open freshly Ground Coffee in a variety of alcoholic liqueur bases on the way to.....

Tried the Carvery at the South Sea at the weekend at £4.95its excellent value. Check this out! Beef and/or Turkey, boiled and roast pots, cabbage sprouts, cauliflower cheese, sprouts, roast parsnips, carrots and broccoli. Dont forget the yorkshre pud!
They might need to get some bigger plates!!

At £3.95 during the week i can see myself becoming a regular visitor

Had some soup at The york last week. It was nice enough, but the chef put about 8 million croutons in it which spoiled it a bit. A few croutons is all you need!

Had some soup at The york last week. It was nice enough, but the chef put about 8 million croutons in it which spoiled it a bit. A few croutons is all you need!

Not a problem, if you had mentioned it, we would have replaced it immediately for you with a 'less croutoned' version.....I think someone the same day had asked for soup with plenty of them, so I think we will have to check with each order on the extent of the 'extras'...

Went back to the South Sea last night for the Carvery, Word must be getting around as they had sold out!

Went back to the South Sea last night for the Carvery, Word must be getting around as they had sold out!

Thas got to be jokin, the South Sea?

Thas got to be jokin, the South Sea?

tis true! think that place is turning its self around and becoming a nice little boozer.

tis true! think that place is turning its self around and becoming a nice little boozer.

If thats the case thats great but why dont you start your own thread promoting it?

Our Daily Specials have been selling out quite fast this week, we are having to make larger quantities as from today:) Very pleased indeed....

glad to hear of the South Seas success with the carvery, I dont see any reason why all 6 pubs round here should not all pull together and ride out the much discussed 'credit crunch' impact....I think we are all fundamentally different to each other so its all good for the area to have as much choice as there is, especially with food. Oh this is making me hungry now.....is it lunch time?? Oh yes it is.....

Had a very tastey lamb burger and wedges in there last night... thanks for serving us even though we were in a bit late!!

The pint of Batemans was most enjoyable too... still waiting for the Badgers tho' :)

Had a very tastey lamb burger and wedges in there last night... thanks for serving us even though we were in a bit late!!

The pint of Batemans was most enjoyable too... still waiting for the Badgers tho' :)

We try to cater for people way beyond 7pm if there is demand:) Quite a lot of food has been going very late, ie after 11pm, but the demand seems to be there so we are happy to oblige, subject to staff. All our staff are multi purpose, and most have been trained for the kitchen:thumbsup:

Had a very tastey lamb burger and wedges in there last night... thanks for serving us even though we were in a bit late!!

The pint of Batemans was most enjoyable too... still waiting for the Badgers tho' :)

We try to cater for people way beyond 7pm if there is demand:) Quite a lof of food has been going very late, ie after 11pm, but the demand seems to be there so we are happy to oblige, subject to staff. All our staff are multi-talented and been trained for the kitchen:thumbsup:

That's good to know... I don't get in till 7.00 most nights so it's good to find somewhere I can get some decent food and a pint from :)

Ex Sheffield student here, moved to Australia last September so this is the first 'de-screaming' of the York I've heard about.

Frankly I'm very surprised that the route the York is now attempting to go down. Before the debranding it was far and above the most popular student bar in broomhill, regularly packing the place out and always the first meeting place for the pub craws heading down into town.

Unless much has changed with the other bars in Broomhill, It seems they have now all debranded away from the 'student digs with lots of cheap drinks' and heading into the old man's ale type of pub. I cant see how there could be space in the market for yet another food focused, moderatly expensive pub in the broomhill area. There's really very little different from the Notty, South Seas, Tavern and now the York apparently. With the Fox n Duck and Place in direct competition in a market segment of their own it seems.

As the new owner of the York, can you not see the massive gap in the market you have now created? Students like cheap drink and lots of it. I cannot see many being swayed by 'good homecooked food' or any change to a more upmarket decor. Hopefully someone will realise this soon and revert back to the original scream bar model of cheap drinks en mass without the added hassle and expense of attempting to push the place unnessesarily upmarket.

If thats the case thats great but why dont you start your own thread promoting it?

because i was replying to a post on this thread.:rolleyes: thats why.

because i was replying to a post on this thread.:rolleyes: thats why.


Tried the Carvery at the South Sea at the weekend at £4.95its excellent value. Check this out! Beef and/or Turkey, boiled and roast pots, cabbage sprouts, cauliflower cheese, sprouts, roast parsnips, carrots and broccoli. Dont forget the yorkshre pud!
They might need to get some bigger plates!!

At £3.95 during the week i can see myself becoming a regular visitor


Went back to the South Sea last night for the Carvery, Word must be getting around as they had sold out!


If you say so!

Unless much has changed with the other bars in Broomhill, It seems they have now all debranded away from the 'student digs with lots of cheap drinks' and heading into the old man's ale type of pub.

As the new owner of the York, can you not see the massive gap in the market you have now created? Students like cheap drink and lots of it. I cannot see many being swayed by 'good homecooked food' or any change to a more upmarket decor. Hopefully someone will realise this soon and revert back to the original scream bar model of cheap drinks en mass without the added hassle and expense of attempting to push the place unnessesarily upmarket.

Regrettably the Scream Pub model did not work in Broomhill in profit terms. yes the York was busy doing £1 a pint and yellow card deals, but the profit was next to nothing. Students may well enjoy cheap drinks, but to sell for less than we can buy it for is not good business, I am sure you agree.

Scream sold The York as it was losing money fast, despite being busy, and the same fate also took hold of other Scream pubs in many towns. You cannot make much money selling mega cheap beer, and I think you will find the profit margins on most discount pubs abysmally small. (Scream Pubs are in fact in pretty dire financial depths and preparing to dispose of many more outlets)

Its quite simple, u take say £10,000 a week selling cheap beer and u may make 15% gross profit which equates to £1,500 as an example from drink sales, then take off staffing, rent, rates, bills, etc and you are left with ZERO!! Good Business ?

On the other hand you take just £5,000 with a gross profit margin of 65% and you may be less busy, but you make a sustainable income even after costs and a business model that is not forever close to the wall due to its low mark ups. Good Business? I would say so....
Add to this Scream pubs sold up and we were then tied to other suppliers at different wholesale prices, so even if we WANTED to copy Scream, it would have been impossible to do so......

And despite what you say, many of our customers are students living nearby, looking for something different to noisy cheap discount bars, and hence they love us for what we are doing. Not ALL students are as you describe! The ones looking for ultra cheap beer go to town, that's fine as we could never make a living from them at this site in 2009 due to our product ties.

There's really very little different from the Notty, South Seas, Tavern and now the York apparently. With the Fox n Duck and Place in direct competition in a market segment of their own it seems.

Let me add that there is a WORLD of difference. The York has debranded from Scream and gone down the community trad real ale route. The South Sea debranded from Scream about 2 years ago and is now doing food, but also I believe DOES embrace the student market directly. The Notty re-opened last Summer very different to its previous incarnation to, so there are massive differences. Just as a pub sells real ale does NOT make it an old mans pub, most of our cask ale is drunk by STUDENTS!!!!!! (sure the Fox and Duck ET AL will say the same too)

As in my previous post, Scream pubs may have appeared to work and be busy all the time, but the reality is (and I have the trading stats for the York under Scream)that this pub lost money and if we had not have taken it on, it would have been boarded up and closed.....and that's the truth

PatB
The South Sea did in fact sell out of the Carvery on a couple of occassions last week. Not sure what your comment was impling. Care to elaborate?

Unless much has changed with the other bars in Broomhill, It seems they have now all debranded away from the 'student digs with lots of cheap drinks' and heading into the old man's ale type of pub.

I'd certainly not say nice beer is a favourite of old men only... Generally people like whats nice or are looking for a way to get drunk quickly...

I've regularly seen the Uni rugby clubs down in the Fat Cat too getting trashed... doubt they were there for the old men!

because i was replying to a post on this thread.:rolleyes: thats why.


Sorry i seem to have got a little muddled!!! and quoted you by mistake! thats what happens when you are on here when you are supposed to be working

Please accept my apology

The point i was trying to make was that its great that the South Sea is doing well but if they want to promote it as Willingale is then they should start their own thread

I'd certainly not say nice beer is a favourite of old men only... Generally people like whats nice or are looking for a way to get drunk quickly...
I've regularly seen the Uni rugby clubs down in the Fat Cat too getting trashed... doubt they were there for the old men!

I agree, real ale these days is attracting a huge younger element,CAMRA has recently introduced a YOUNG MEMBERS CAMRA group due the sheer volume of under 25's now drinking real ale and abandoning keg beers/lagers. I do not understand the concept of a real ale pub being full of 'old men'.....they are not, its a fact! That image was certainly true about 10 years ago yes, but now even the Student Union sells real ales due to demand....a huge % of the York's cask ale sales go to the under 25's, no question about it.....

PatzB
As far as I am aware Willingale has nothing to do with the ownership or running of The South Sea. Strange as it may seem to some of you on this forum but he/she is probably just a satisfied customer!!!

Sorry i seem to have got a little muddled!!! and quoted you by mistake! thats what happens when you are on here when you are supposed to be working

Please accept my apology

The point i was trying to make was that its great that the South Sea is doing well but if they want to promote it as Willingale is then they should start their own thread

apology accepted :) no harm done.

Our food, especially the Daily Specials, is going from strength to strength at the York, and if you have not tried us out yet, customers are coming back time and time again....
and we now have a superb range of Daily Specials......including, but not limited to..
(SEE CHALKBOARD IN PUB..MANY SPECIALS)
An ever changing range of traditional meals to satisfy all...
some recent homemade specials:
Chicken curry
Chilli
Shepherds Pie, made with Guinness
Pork Sausages in Addlestones gravy
Jim Beam Burger
Liver, Bacon and Onions in Guinness Gravy
Roast Beef in Broadside
Beef and Broadside Stew
Beef Chow Mein
Spicey Pork in Addlestones

Sunday Roasts

Veggie Stuff
Veg Stew
Stuffed Peppers
Veggie Enchilades
Veggie Lasagne
Veggie Bangers and Mash
Veggie Burgers

Locally Sourced:
Lamb burgers
Lasagne
Pork and Black Pepper Sausages in Guinness Gravy
Spicey Meatbals
chicken and mushroom in port and brandy sauce
Leek and Cauliflower in white wine

Meal Deal : Burger and Beer for £4.50 (includes Pint of Carling,
selected cask ale, 175ml wine, or large pepsi / lemonade). Extra
toppings 50p each - cheese, bacon, salad, wedges

How late are meals being served these days ?

How late are meals being served these days ?

Normally until 7, but depending on staff, we will happily provide food if we can beyond this.....the simpler it is, the more likely you will get it later on in the evening....but having said that, a group came in the other night wanting food at 10 pm and we were able to accommodate them happily..:)

Regrettably the Scream Pub model did not work in Broomhill in profit terms. yes the York was busy doing £1 a pint and yellow card deals, but the profit was next to nothing. Students may well enjoy cheap drinks, but to sell for less than we can buy it for is not good business, I am sure you agree.

Scream sold The York as it was losing money fast, despite being busy, and the same fate also took hold of other Scream pubs in many towns. You cannot make much money selling mega cheap beer, and I think you will find the profit margins on most discount pubs abysmally small. (Scream Pubs are in fact in pretty dire financial depths and preparing to dispose of many more outlets)

Its quite simple, u take say £10,000 a week selling cheap beer and u may make 15% gross profit which equates to £1,500 as an example from drink sales, then take off staffing, rent, rates, bills, etc and you are left with ZERO!! Good Business ?

On the other hand you take just £5,000 with a gross profit margin of 65% and you may be less busy, but you make a sustainable income even after costs and a business model that is not forever close to the wall due to its low mark ups. Good Business? I would say so....
Add to this Scream pubs sold up and we were then tied to other suppliers at different wholesale prices, so even if we WANTED to copy Scream, it would have been impossible to do so......

And despite what you say, many of our customers are students living nearby, looking for something different to noisy cheap discount bars, and hence they love us for what we are doing. Not ALL students are as you describe! The ones looking for ultra cheap beer go to town, that's fine as we could never make a living from them at this site in 2009 due to our product ties.

Thanks for your reply. Obviously being unable to view the specific financial data I was unaware that the profit margins were quite that low!