View Full Version : Stopping a puppy from making a mess


donotremove
05-01-2009, 13:09
Help! My 4 month old staffy is going to the toilet on the floor. I have tried rubbing his nose in it and hitting him across the head with a rolled up newspaper but nothing seems to work. Any suggestions people? I really do not want to have to get rid of him because I love him to bits but the house is begining to smell now.

metaphoria
05-01-2009, 13:13
Don't do that.

Ignore it when it happens in the house. Reward him with treats when he goes outside.

Takes time and a bit of waiting.

Strix
05-01-2009, 13:15
this has been posted before as a trolling thread :rolleyes:

metaphoria
05-01-2009, 13:15
this has been posted before as a trolling thread :rolleyes:

Oh. Really funny, eh?

Strix
05-01-2009, 13:16
me or the op?

metaphoria
05-01-2009, 13:18
me or the op?

The OP (if it is a joke). Oh dear.

Plain Talker
05-01-2009, 13:19
So did clouting your children and rubbing their noses in their nappies make them toilet trained any quicker? - and if not, what makes you think that it'd work with the puppy?

You need lots of patience and encouragement with a pup.

My Jack Russell pup is just one year old,, and I still get the odd tiddle now and then, in the kitchen from her. Puddles come with the territory, you have to teach the dog where it's ok to "spend" and where it's not.

You also need to start using a trigger word, like "Good lad! be Busy!!" when he is tiddling or poo-ing outside, so that he associates the word with going to the toilet. I used "be clean!" with my dogs, and the pup is starting to understand that when I say "Be clean!" Iwant her to do a tiddle or a poo on the back garden. and lots of praise and a treat when he gets it right.

metaphoria
05-01-2009, 13:27
You need lots of patience and encouragement with a pup.

You also need to start using a trigger word, like "Good lad! be Busy!!" when he is tiddling or poo-ing outside, so that he associates the word with going to the toilet. I used "be clean!" with my dogs, and the pup is starting to understand that when I say "Be clean!" Iwant her to do a tiddle or a poo on the back garden. and lots of praise and a treat when he gets it right.

Yes, good advice.

donotremove
05-01-2009, 13:32
So did clouting your children and rubbing their noses in their nappies make them toilet trained any quicker? - and if not, what makes you think that it'd work with the puppy?

You need lots of patience and encouragement with a pup.

My Jack Russell pup is just one year old,, and I still get the odd tiddle now and then, in the kitchen from her. Puddles come with the territory, you have to teach the dog where it's ok to "spend" and where it's not.

You also need to start using a trigger word, like "Good lad! be Busy!!" when he is tiddling or poo-ing outside, so that he associates the word with going to the toilet. I used "be clean!" with my dogs, and the pup is starting to understand that when I say "Be clean!" Iwant her to do a tiddle or a poo on the back garden. and lots of praise and a treat when he gets it right.


I don't have children.

I only came on here for some advice. Thank you to those that helped.

Strix
05-01-2009, 13:36
Vigilance is the key with such a young pup

you should by now be able to spot all the signs he's planning to 'go', so should be able to scoop him up and put him outside

clean any previously soiled areas with biological washing liquid or steam cleaning (or a pet odour killer) as they tend to use the same area again and again, returning to the scent

if you're leaving him for long periods of time alone, it'll be more difficult but not impossible

nobody wants to adopt an un-housetrained staffy when they can easily find one that is housetrained, so if you can't solve this, there aren't really any easy alternatives

Grandad.Malky
05-01-2009, 13:38
Start of by taking him out every hour and praise him if he does something, the trick in the house is to catch them before they do anything not scold them when its too late, watch for the signs he wants t go out.

Sniffing around, getting up and looking around the room, whimpering etc, we used a crate at night and he was fully house trained within weeks never mind months

donotremove
05-01-2009, 13:41
Would something like kitty-litter help if I left it near the door?

I mean for when I have to leave him.

Strix
05-01-2009, 13:44
kitty litter would probably be distributed liberally round the room by a pup, which is why newspaper has always been the preference of puppy owners, but you can buy puppy pads now as a higher tech alternative

crate training is a fantastic aid to house training - but do your homework

how long are you leaving him for? if it's for more than an hour is there somebody you can arrange for letting him out for the next few weeks? at least pups grow quickly so this arrangement would be quite short term

donotremove
05-01-2009, 13:53
No longer than 3 hours. I can get someone round to help.

I am looking into crate training now. Thank you.

Strix
05-01-2009, 14:12
have a look at croftonline - they have crate training info as well as selling sturdy crates

for a staffy I wouldn't recommend the flimsy crates available from Argos ;)

metaphoria
05-01-2009, 14:38
I think the idea with crate training, is that they associate it as a little haven that they don't want to mess in. see here (http://www.animed.co.uk/toilet_training.htm)

shihtzumad
05-01-2009, 14:41
I would defo invest in some puppy training pads, these give of a scent to the pup to return to the pad for the puppy to do her business on them, i use these for my puppies and i think they are very good. Pets at home do puppy training pads they are about £10 for about 32.

Has for rubbing the dogs nose in the wee is not necessary and not very nice.

Has strix says look at croft online, this is the link to the puppy pen i have, i know they are a bit expensive but i highly recommend them they are very sturdy.
http://www.croftonline.co.uk/products.asp?partno=FREEDOM

mummysaz21
05-01-2009, 17:49
i hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee people who hit animals an especialy rubbing there faces in it i would not do it to my 6month old baby(human) and i wud not do it to my doggy nobody has a right to do that to anything living

shihtzumad
05-01-2009, 18:03
i hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee people who hit animals an especialy rubbing there faces in it i would not do it to my 6month old baby(human) and i wud not do it to my doggy nobody has a right to do that to anything living

Totally agree, there is no need for any kind of cruelty, it makes my blood boil :rant:

mummysaz21
05-01-2009, 18:07
sorry im guna av to stop reading these threads cus some get me so mad, how u can claim to love your pet and say u rub faces in here own faeces and hit em in the same sentance i do not know, sory but my personal opinion

shihtzumad
05-01-2009, 18:32
sorry im guna av to stop reading these threads cus some get me so mad, how u can claim to love your pet and say u rub faces in here own faeces and hit em in the same sentance i do not know, sory but my personal opinion

Mummysaz21, can you please not type in text talk as this is against forum rules

topb
05-01-2009, 21:14
sorry im guna av to stop reading these threads cus some get me so mad, how u can claim to love your pet and say u rub faces in here own faeces and hit em in the same sentance i do not know, sory but my personal opinion

It used to be a belief of many that forcing an animal to smell its own excrement would somehow trigger the correct response, it had little to do with cruelty and more to do with a lack of understanding dog psyche. Thankfully we have moved on and in the main credit dogs with far more intelligence.

donotremove
06-01-2009, 06:35
It used to be a belief of many that forcing an animal to smell its own excrement would somehow trigger the correct response, it had little to do with cruelty and more to do with a lack of understanding dog psyche. Thankfully we have moved on and in the main credit dogs with far more intelligence.

That is what I mean by rubbing his nose in it. I just held his nose close to his mess. I know better now thanks to people on here and who I have spoken to. I do love my dog and do not mean to be cruel. I am only asking advise and trying to be open about the way I deal with it.

topb
06-01-2009, 09:09
That is what I mean by rubbing his nose in it. I just held his nose close to his mess. I know better now thanks to people on here and who I have spoken to. I do love my dog and do not mean to be cruel. I am only asking advise and trying to be open about the way I deal with it.

I'm not suggesting that you are cruel, your open to suggestions which puts you above many so don't worry about it, we all have to learn