Does anybody know what it is and does it affect them?

What are your views?

"Wykersley" or "Waverley"?

'Cos there is a proposed Waverley Link Road in Public Consultation at the moment, and a lot of people are up in arms about it.

Basically, because of the re-development of the Orgreave site (AKA Waverley), "they" see a need to make it easier for Waverley traffic to get from/to Junction 33.

Along with "do nothing", "do minimum" options, there are two road building options. One route would take a road across the football fields at Woodhouse Mill.
The other route would take a road over the Rother, across the southern shore of Treeton Dyke and out to the B6200 at Fence roundabout, cutting across a couple of country lanes, a few footpaths and bridlepaths and The Transpennine Trail in the process. Not nice!

Elsewhere on the Forum , Alchresearch has described
Treeton Dyke as a favorite Rotherham place and Wallbanger has recommended it as a place for walking dogs. If the proposals go through they may need to revise these opinions.

There are links to lots more information at :http://www.communityconnects.org.uk/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=165&Itemid=32


Ray

I have to say, I'm not mad keen on 'do nothing'. There have been enough pedestrians mown down on Retford Rd in the past couple of years, and the increased traffic through Handsworth and Woodhouse will adversley affect both residents and the children attending the schools on the routes they have highlighted as suffering increased traffic.

Yeah, I'm not keen either, especially as they went to the trouble of downgrading Retford Road from an 'A' road to a 'B' road.

Originally posted by alchresearch
Yeah, I'm not keen either, especially as they went to the trouble of downgrading Retford Road from an 'A' road to a 'B' road.
Shame they didn't lower the speed limit when they did. Berluddy race track that it is :mad:

so this doesn't affect any other forumers? :(

I know in gereral what the red tarmac is for but at the junction on the pavement at both sides of the road What is the Red Tarmac for on the pavement which is about 3.5 mtrs wide up to a path on the recreation ground. But the tarmac stops dead at the other sidw of the road. Is it the official boundary between Rotherham and Sheffield?

Suprise, Suprise theyv'e put the red tarmac down and not filled in the emerging pothole on the outward bound carrageway. Probably thats not our job!

Actually, The recreational land belongs to Sheffield Council.....So does Retford road.

I do not know whether you are aware of the plans to build a road through the rec area from the Waverly project that is busy being built at this time.

I personally don't know why they have laid the rubber tarmac at these places but I do know that if Rotherham get their way...It will not be there for long....even though the MP clive Betts has assured us all that the rec is safe from any possible road.

Hii
What plans are these for the Waverly project and what is the waverly project?
I've never heard of it and would like to know more as my son lives near there.
hazel

Originally posted by hazel
Hii
What plans are these for the Waverly project and what is the waverly project?
I've never heard of it and would like to know more as my son lives near there.
hazel

Is that what the red tarmac is for didn't think it had anthing to do with the Waverley project.

After a whole lot of opposition, Rotherham Council has decided *not* to build a road across the recreation ground.

Instead it is proposing to bring the road round the back of the rec, across the river and bring it out onto Retford Road at the derelict garage. But even this will only happen if they can get government funding, - which they are now applying for.

Somewhat surprisingly (well not really!) Rotherham Council only began to look at this new route after local residents suggested it , ...and suggested it,... and suggested it, ... at meeting, ... after meeting, ... after meeting ... and with finally Sheffield Council and Clive Betts writing to them about it.

The Waverley Community Connects website is a good place for links to everything about Waverley and the link road.

http://www.communityconnects.org.uk/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=315


... and I have often wondered why that red tarmac is there!


Ray

It could be something to do with the Trans-Pennine trail. The Sheffield-Rotherham boundary is at the river, but used to be at the railway (where the old course of the river was).

Horseface

Thamk for the info, have printed it out.
hazel

All I asked about was what is the coloured Tarmac there for. NOT tel me the whole geographical restructuring of Catcliffe and Orgreave including the road network. Thanks anyway but does anyone know about the Tarmac (RED).

Originally posted by desy
All I asked about was what is the coloured Tarmac there for. NOT tel me the whole geographical restructuring of Catcliffe and Orgreave including the road network. Thanks anyway but does anyone know about the Tarmac (RED).

It could be something to do with the Trans-Pennine trail. The Sheffield-Rotherham boundary is at the river, but used to be at the railway (where the old course of the river was).

Don't go with the boundary situation worked for the company just up the road and everytime they went for grants knowone could make there mind up if they were in Sheffield or Rotherham. But just for interest (not to be diverted onto). The NEW housing that is between Aston bye pass (Aston way) and Parkhill (fence) pay there rates to Sheffield. Where does that one fit in if the border is the Rother.

I have just recieved a letter Stating that the proposed link road that was to be built through the recreation field at Woodhouse Mill will NOT be built over the Fields.

Rotherham Council, After being petitioned by the people of Orgreave and Woodhouse Mill, Have now decided to put the road on the other side of the River Rother coming onto Sheffield Road at the old Petrol Station Between Fence And Woodhouse Mill.

This is very good news or those that use the fields and has proved to the residents that some petitions do work!

The Waverly Link road will give direct access to the Parkway from Woodhouse and I have also been informed that there will also be a improved access from the Parkway to the development at Waverley hopefully this will mean, even when the link road is built, that more traffic will actually access the development from Parkway rather than through the link road itself.

Although it's good they'll not trashing the fields or Falconer Lane and using waste land, do Woodhousers actually need better access to the parkway? It's only a five minute drive from most parts of Woodhouse to the road by the old Asda or through Woodhouse to Coisley Hill.

I think it's just going to put more traffic on the now much quieter B6200 and make the old A57 the awful road it once used to be.

That road is already a nightmare at peak times, the traffic queues from the traffic lights at the Furness Lane Junction right back up the old A57. The last thing that we need is more traffic accessing the road anywhere near there.

Originally posted by alchresearch
Although it's good they'll not trashing the fields or Falconer Lane and using waste land, do Woodhousers actually need better access to the parkway? It's only a five minute drive from most parts of Woodhouse to the road by the old Asda or through Woodhouse to Coisley Hill.

I think it's just going to put more traffic on the now much quieter B6200 and make the old A57 the awful road it once used to be.
I cannot agree with you more than I do but, I myself opted for no changes to be made at all.

As stated.....the traffic is bad now on Retford/Sheffield Road.

The Main thing in my view is that at least we get to retain the rec field as opposed to losing it.

If you had been to any of the meetings, Rotherham could have put in a compulsary purchase order for the Fields.
Although this result is not what the majority wanted....The Main concerns regarding the fields being transformed with a road have been avoided.

Hello Delboy3,
you say "I have just recieved a letter Stating that the proposed link road that was to be built through the recreation field at Woodhouse Mill will NOT be built over the Fields."

Who did you get that letter from, Sheffield Council?

In Falconer Lane (where we pay council tax to Rotherham council) we have had no official letter of this decision, only what we read from the Rotherham Council meeting on the subject - which only says that they are applying to national government for the money to build the road, coming out at the petrol station, ... and that they might not get the money.

hf

Originally posted by alchresearch
do Woodhousers actually need better access to the parkway? It's only a five minute drive from most parts of Woodhouse to the road by the old Asda or through Woodhouse to Coisley Hill.

I think it's just going to put more traffic on the now much quieter B6200 and make the old A57 the awful road it once used to be.

It's not got anything to do with existing traffic. It's to carry the new traffic that will be induced by the creation of this new manufacturing/business park thing where they have levelled Orgreave slag heap.

We get enough juggernoughts taking shortcuts through Woodhouse now, without the blasted things forming a procession when they increase in number :(

A few months ago we received some 'consultation' documents about 3 proposed routes.

Each of the routes gave indications of existing traffic flow and expected future traffic flow if that particular route was in place.

There was insufficient information about where they got these 'predictions' from and it all seemed a bit leading.

The documents stated that if no road improvements (other than the bare minimum to existing roads) were carried out then the traffic would increase significantly.

The suggestion was that the link road joining Retford Rd at the Furnace Lane junction was the best solution in terms of traffic number, but it just did not seem to add up.

One of the proposals was to have the link road come out further up (towards M1) at the roundabout just after Furnace Lane, but that would mean cutting through green belt and would not be environmentally friendly.

IMO the proposals were lacking in substance and leading. I have not heard anything as to whether a decision has been made.

The Waverly Village however will inevitabley increase traffic simply due to the number of houses to be built and also the business park which is being built at the moment. Given that this development has been on the cards for at least 2 years now, I would have thought that the initial planning permission should have included something about the impact on surrounding areas re: traffic flow?

Originally posted by horseface
Hello Delboy3,
you say "I have just recieved a letter Stating that the proposed link road that was to be built through the recreation field at Woodhouse Mill will NOT be built over the Fields."

Who did you get that letter from, Sheffield Council?

In Falconer Lane (where we pay council tax to Rotherham council) we have had no official letter of this decision, only what we read from the Rotherham Council meeting on the subject - which only says that they are applying to national government for the money to build the road, coming out at the petrol station, ... and that they might not get the money.

hf
I recieved the letter direct from Clive Betts and another from David Curtis who is Head of Service, Development, Enviroment and leisure Development Services.
I am sure that you will soon be informed of the decisions made as Rotherham Council are pursuing Option E of the original Questionaire.

There is no mention in the 2 letters of anything regarding costs or where they are getting the money from so you may be correct in assuming that they might not get the money.

I have just sent Clive Betts an Email asking exactly what is in your post .
I will post the reply (if any) as soon as I get it.

If you wish I could drop off the letters as I am only around the corner or for that matter, I will ask the WMWMC to put them up on the notice board.

Originally posted by Hels


The Waverly Village however will inevitabley increase traffic simply due to the number of houses to be built and also the business park which is being built at the moment. Given that this development has been on the cards for at least 2 years now, I would have thought that the initial planning permission should have included something about the impact on surrounding areas re: traffic flow?

The development has in fact been on the cards over the past 15 years where, we have the original proposals that did not show any housing developments but gave the impression that it was to be turned into a Rother Valley Park type development with a few lakes and nature trails.

There were 3 or 4 meeting held at Handsworth WMC and Woodhouse Mill WMC where issues were raised regarding the proposed road.

One concern about the road going to the junction at Furnace lane was that the post office on the corner would be possibly closed.

The last meeting that was held, Rotherham Councillors did not bother to turn up to give answers whilst the sheffield MP and councillors did. The land in question where the road is going to be built is on Sheffield Land therefor Sheffield should have the final say as to where this road will go.