According to this (http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/8160/sheffield-dialhouse-club-scheduled-for) newspaper article, the Dial House Club at Wisewood is to be demolished to make was for yet another housing development.

I've only been there once, but I understand it's quite a popular venue for live bands and events in north Sheffield.

Does anyone know if this is true?

It's a shame :(

I used to enjoy going in there with relatives.. It was used quite a fair bit by local brassbands..

I hear the Gas Club is also on it's way out..

The Gas Club doesn't surprise me at all. I went a few times as a youth with my Uncle and Aunt, and it never seemed very busy.

What next? The Blue Ball being turned into a new Starbucks? :o

The first application for a housing development on the Dial House site was recently turned down, as it would detrimentally effect the listed building. However, I think I heard that the club itself were liasing with the developers to come up with a smaller, more acceptable scheme.

Whatever they do, it's going to be bad for traffic (both at Malin Bridge, and on Middlewood Road near the park). :mad:

Originally posted by Kristian
According to this (http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/8160/sheffield-dialhouse-club-scheduled-for) newspaper article, the Dial House Club at Wisewood is to be demolished to make was for yet another housing development.

I've only been there once, but I understand it's quite a popular venue for live bands and events in north Sheffield.

Does anyone know if this is true? the club hasnt shut down yet,the company bar 24 have not yet got planning permission to build on the site also the front of the club is a listed building so cannot be demoished, and would have to be incorporated in with any new buildings.
it was also sai at one time the bowling green was protected in someway.

I heard they were going to be building on the grounds there but then heard they wernt, whats happening? ive just done my dad a party there and the function room there is lovely, dont rekon much to the club itself but my aunt is always there and my mum sometimes goes, it is quite popular so dont know why they are going to knock it down!!ahh well....

Its the usual story I think... not making enough money! The land must be worth a fortune though. The first application was for about 80 homes! Way too many.

Originally posted by feargal
Its the usual story I think... not making enough money! The land must be worth a fortune though. The first application was for about 80 homes! Way too many. the peoplewho are now runnig the club say it is making money and the rent is being paid to bar 24,at the end of the day it was bought as an investment for building houses on.the club was in a vulnerable potition,still is i suppose and the developers are sitting in thebackground like leaches waiting for them to fail ,i hope the appication for planning permission is turned down again when heard this week.
the false rumours being spread are also damaging the club because people are being made to believe the cub is closed or closing

The club cannot be demolished without planning permission as parts of it are listed. There is no planning application on the system today (Thu). If Bar-24 have just put an application in, it hasn't been processed yet.

The club itself is in an ideal position to thrive. It is the only community facilitiy for a long way in the area. They have a variety of facilities and do various things like dance clubs, etc. I would encourage anybody in the area and further afield to use the club.

When I was a child in hillsborough, 30% of the adults in our street were members and we were about 2 miles away. No wonder the place was so massive. In my youth I went there quite a few times when they used to show movies, went to loads of parties in the function room and I played in quite a few brass band concerts, but advertised as "family nights" members of the brass band brought their young families, only to be disgusted when the compare started swearing and telling blue jokes. I remember they used to have strippers/bingo on sunday lunchtime, maybe in britain we have moved on from this kind of coarse entertainment. Especially when you consider the shift in labour patterns from heavy industries to service industries, over the last 30 years, where far fewer people want to be thought of as working class.

I think the Dial House should stay... alot of people love the place. and they are now doing star,s of the future.. which is really good. do a lot of dance,s for the over 60,s I think too.

I came to sheffield in 1974 and I remember that dial house was one of the top clubs, manor clubs being at the top as well, but if you face up to reality, the days of the W.M.C. are gone. Only the best of the rest will survive, the estate around the dial has changed, the people have got younger, and they will not use the club because it's not cool or whatever they call it nowadays. old time dancing is not the solution to the clubs problems the committee have had enough time to reach a solution, but seem to be diverted into other long term dreams that in reality will never happen.

Originally posted by jgharston
The club cannot be demolished without planning permission as parts of it are listed. There is no planning application on the system today (Thu). If Bar-24 have just put an application in, it hasn't been processed yet.

The club itself is in an ideal position to thrive. It is the only community facilitiy for a long way in the area. They have a variety of facilities and do various things like dance clubs, etc. I would encourage anybody in the area and further afield to use the club. planning permission was applied for months ago and turned dow,the application was supposed to be re submitted again yesterday,with some alterations fewer homes i think.

EEEEEEK! They can't do that:o

All those Dial House trips and easter bonnet parades, grab a granny nights and bingo of many moons ago, it should be a listed building!

Someone start a petition, chain yourself to the building, write to Tony Blair!

Originally posted by tulip
EEEEEEK! They can't do that:o

All those Dial House trips and easter bonnet parades, grab a granny nights and bingo of many moons ago, it should be a listed building!

Someone start a petition, chain yourself to the building, write to Tony Blair!

Yuck, I doubt Tony Blair would even care about the Dial House mate.. It's not in America or Iraq :loopy:

Don't bother - the sooner all working men's clubs disappear the better - its like going back in time going in't club..

That's exactly why they should be preserved. Can you imagine flat capped old fellers hangin' out in West One, discussing homing pigeons and puffing on Woodbines? Thinking about it, thats not a bad idea, it might make going there bearable...

Originally posted by gularscute
That's exactly why they should be preserved. Can you imagine flat capped old fellers hangin' out in West One, discussing homing pigeons and puffing on Woodbines? Thinking about it, thats not a bad idea, it might make going there bearable... :clap: Yeah, join the fight to keep the old place open! My parents actually went there when they were young to drink cheap 'fighting beer' - Newcastle Brown!

talkin to one of the bar staff yesterday and they now say they think its august that the club shuts.

don,t think it is shutting.. And I am going this friday night STAR,S OF THE FUTURE is there and my daughter in the comp.. I will try to find out..

oh if anyone want,s to come and cheer her along let me know...

just got back from holiday and saw the dial is all boarded up,what a shame,it will be sadly missed.:mad: :( :o

I hope that it does not get burnt down like the Pinegrove did:heyhey:

I think that it will have to be some sort of complex including a pub, ,the bowling green plus everything else that is needed in the area . Not Houses to be a success.

Threads merged.

Demolish it! That's what I say. Raze it to the ground! Aaaah - memories of mum and dad, tanked up on Newky Brown (aka "feightin' beer"), coming home on a Saturday night... knocking lumps out of each other.
Memories of the annual trip to the seaside - Clethorpes, Mablethorpe, Skeggy.... I can still smell the vomit, nearly forty years later

Bad news Firethorn, the club is being re built and although no one seems to know why or what purpose it will be used for once restored to its former dullness, I'm pretty sure somewhere in it's interior will be a cooler full of your parents poison.

I used to frequent the Dial years ago and had some good knees up in there at friends and families parties too. I just hope when they do rebuild it, the place can be used for the community rather than just a WMC

Isnt the Dial House where Def Leopard first started out? I went in there back in the early 80s and I`m sure someone mentioned that to me.

Yuck, I doubt Tony Blair would even care about the Dial House mate.. It's not in America or Iraq :loopy:I wasn't serious!:rolleyes:

Demolish it! That's what I say. Raze it to the ground! Aaaah - memories of mum and dad, tanked up on Newky Brown (aka "feightin' beer"), coming home on a Saturday night... knocking lumps out of each other.
Memories of the annual trip to the seaside - Clethorpes, Mablethorpe, Skeggy.... I can still smell the vomit, nearly forty years laterI didn't do it on purpose (vomit). I bet you were one of the older kids sitting at the back of the coach and leaving younger siblings puking into paper bags!

I hope that it does not get burnt down like the Pinegrove did:heyhey:
It did, didnt it ?

Nothing seems to be happening on the site of the dial, the concert hall is just a heap of rubble and the roof has a blue tarp over it. has the insurance company paid up and the owners done one?

Nothing seems to be happening on the site of the dial, the concert hall is just a heap of rubble and the roof has a blue tarp over it. has the insurance company paid up and the owners done one?
I would think they flattened the concert hall as it was unsafe and they didn't want people climbing in for a look around. The main bit will be refurbished when the rest of the site is, I think the housing application is being looked at now.

I thought they had been given strict orders to rebuild the place as it was before the fire?....as I understand it planning permission for other uses has been turned down?

I thought they had been given strict orders to rebuild the place as it was before the fire?....as I understand it planning permission for other uses has been turned down?
I thought the order for the rebuild, as it was before the fire, applied only to the front of the building as it was Grade 1(?) listed? They have done an investigation into how the fire started of which I don't know the results, but two seperate fires starting in both buildings at the same times, when the watermain has been frozen, seems more than accidental.

If they have turned down the application I can't understand why. It doesn't make any sense to rebuild it as it was, rebuilding it so it'll be empty building again :confused: I knew they did turn the planning down before, but now it had burned down I thought were were looking into it again.

We shall have to wait and see then... I just wish someone would build somthing a little more imaginative than housing though.

We shall have to wait and see then... I just wish someone would build somthing a little more imaginative than housing though.
Me too, but I can't think of anything else to go there, can you? It all comes down to who's willing to buy the land I suppose, even if there is a criminal charge against the owner (and moderators please note, I don't know if there is, or if there will be, I'm just making a general "what if" comment) it will still have to be sold by him. The council can't just strip him of the ownership.

I've noticed that the grounds of Dial House have become overgrown with willow weed. Parents should beware of letting their children play near the stuff unless supervised by an older sibling, it could have your eye out.

A local man called Oliver O' Nion almost burned his foot off trying to clear away the proliferating shrub, so beware, it's a significant public hazard!

I've noticed that the grounds of Dial House have become overgrown with willow weed. Parents should beware of letting their children play near the stuff unless supervised by an older sibling, it could have your eye out.

A local man called Oliver O' Nion almost burned his foot off trying to clear away the proliferating shrub, so beware, it's a significant public hazard!Oliver O'nion was a pillar of the communnity, until his painful demise.

He has a memorial built in his honour. Braemore road compost heap. Poor chap.

This is such a crying shame, i got my first ever job at the dial as a glass collector when i was 16 and i loved it. Oh happy days! There is a lot of memories there

What A Shame I Used To Sing There I Liked That Place To

http://www.urbani.co.uk/default.asp?MIS=83

The Gas Club doesn't surprise me at all. I went a few times as a youth with my Uncle and Aunt, and it never seemed very busy.

What next? The Blue Ball being turned into a new Starbucks? :o

The Blue Ball has been a chav infested dive for years.

There's more aliens go in there than the Mos Eisley Cantina on Star Wars! :lol:

36 two bedroom apartments and 3 converted houses sympathetically built around communal gardens with parking.

more like sympathetically built around the burnt out wreck of millions of memories.

Oh you cynic - don't you know that old buildings like this in prime development sites often spontaneously self-combust in the middle of the night? It's a well known fact.

The planning application that I've seen doesn't allow the Dial House itself to be demolished!

http://planning.sheffield.gov.uk/publicaccess/tdc/DcApplication/application_detailview.aspx?keyval=0404797FUL&searchtype=PROPERTY&module=P3

"Erection of 32 apartments in 2 x 3 storey blocks and alterations to Dial House to form 3 dwellings and associated car parking accommodation"

The institute building at the rear has of course already gone though.

Can someone change the title of this thread as it's not actually true and could cause people to panic (like me :P)

Oh you cynic - don't you know that old buildings like this in prime development sites often spontaneously self-combust in the middle of the night? It's a well known fact.

Don't fancy living next to the Horse and Jockey or the Beehive then !!!

thats terrible how can they let such a thing happen!!!!

thats terrible how can they let such a thing happen!!!!

Tell me about it, the 3 story flats in mention will look over my garden and house.

Has this development completely finished? I heard via the local liberal candidate, Karen Southwood that they had approached the owners to ask them to clear the site up?

This makes me think that they may have abondoned the site and project. ??

Don't know what's happening with it, but I wish the owner would secure the property better and make the roof covering safe - it's a right state! :(

Has this development completely finished? I heard via the local liberal candidate, Karen Southwood that they had approached the owners to ask them to clear the site up?

This makes me think that they may have abondoned the site and project. ??

For information - a timetable of works has been agreed with the owners, which should see the roof completed by the end of May (a sample of the roofing slate has already been given to Conservation for formal approval.) A Structural Engineer was due on site end March once his report made work can commence.

The developer has also indicated to SCC Officers that they hope to resume work on the rest of the development by the beginning of July.

Hopefully, local people will see some movement very soon.

The developer has also indicated to SCC Officers that they hope to resume work on the rest of the development by the beginning of July.

Hopefully, local people will see some movement very soon.

When you say HOPE to resume work - does this mean the developer now has money ?? as seems he did not have any to complete the work before !!

And as for locals who live around the area - there is a increase in rats from the site !

The site has been left for too long and i feel sorry for those that live around the dial house site .

I do think a letter to those who live around the site would help - i.e to know whats going on etc .

I think the developers should sell the site back to the community and let it be changed back to a community facility with the old bowling green and a useable/rentable function room and facilities.

I think the developers should sell the site back to the community and let it be changed back to a community facility with the old bowling green and a useable/rentable function room and facilities.

Now thats the best idea the site should have been for !:):)

I spoke to the architects and they said because of the current climate with the credit crunch, they are waiting til things pick up. They have so many months that it can stand empty and then they have to resubmit the plans again. Things might have changed since I spoke to them though.

I think the developers should sell the site back to the community and let it be changed back to a community facility with the old bowling green and a useable/rentable function room and facilities.

That sounds great, but who pays? The Dial was one of the best clubs in Sheffield for many years and if it had been profitable, surely it would have remained as a club?

I'm glad to hear the owners are going to restart work at last, its a real eyesore.

The Blue Ball has been a chav infested dive for years.

There's more aliens go in there than the Mos Eisley Cantina on Star Wars! :lol:

LOL, i like that one!!!

For information - a timetable of works has been agreed with the owners, which should see the roof completed by the end of May (a sample of the roofing slate has already been given to Conservation for formal approval.) A Structural Engineer was due on site end March once his report made work can commence.

The developer has also indicated to SCC Officers that they hope to resume work on the rest of the development by the beginning of July.

Hopefully, local people will see some movement very soon.

No movement yet chavs :rolleyes::rolleyes:
What happens if they dont do the Roof by the end of may ?????

its now closed..well it looks like a demo site now:huh::huh::huh::huh:

yes the blue ball is allways full of chavs..

No movement yet chavs :rolleyes::rolleyes:
What happens if they dont do the Roof by the end of may ?????

Sorry for the delay - been a bot busy this last couple of days or so. I imagine that legal proceedings will be the next step but I will look into this and post soon.

well whats happening with the dial house club? its in a right state bar 24 get you act together either sell up or start work its a right eyesore grrr!!!!

well whats happening with the dial house club? its in a right state bar 24 get you act together either sell up or start work its a right eyesore grrr!!!!

Well said - The council should get onto them now and sort it out :mad:

Sorry for the delay - been a bot busy this last couple of days or so. I imagine that legal proceedings will be the next step but I will look into this and post soon.

Legal proceedings you say ? but dont that mean this could go on and on and the dial site still gets left ?

Latest News i hear is they now got untill End of september !!!!
This is getting stupid , the site is in a rite state !!

Still nothing happening at the Dial House Club site.

Still nothing happening at the Dial House Club site.

Yes i know, I feel sorry for those who have to live around the site !!
Its getting beyond a joke - Council pull your finger out on this issue !!;)

Come on Chavs - any news ???

Or anyone for that matter know anything ??

Why don't you contact the City Council Planning Department yourself.
Then you could post the answer on here.

Why don't you contact the City Council Planning Department yourself.
Then you could post the answer on here.

Coz you dont seem to get anywhere contacting them :(
Your welcome to try

Anyone else had the Labour leaflet about Dial house site !!
It seems somethings going to get done , its just a joke that its been left so long in my opinion !!
Not sure why lib dem council not got there finger out on this issue !!:mad:

Anyone else had the Labour leaflet about Dial house site !!
It seems somethings going to get done , its just a joke that its been left so long in my opinion !!
Not sure why lib dem council not got there finger out on this issue !!:mad:

They sent those leaflets around this time last year, nothing got done then. To be honest it's privately owned, and other than asking the owners to clear the site up I'm pretty sure the local council can't force them to develop. ??

I live backing on to the dial house and have had severel conversations with iurban the company that own the site (they also did the new middlewood estate) they have been really honest with me and said that they had no money to start work and thats why its been left, but they have another site in york that is nearly finished and then work will start on dial house court in a few months. They have a website with all artists impressions and plans to look at the link is /www.dialhousecourt.co.uk/
Hopefully they start work very soon

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43616&highlight=dial+house&page=4

theres a link to thread above ,
i think the company should have a open meeting with the residents if they want to be honest about things

http://www.dialhousecourt.co.uk/index.html

It'll still be derelict this time next year !

What ever I-Urban have told people has always been lies... I remember them telling the bowls club that they would "keep and maintain" the bowling green. First thing they did was put a foundation and property footprint straight over the top of it !

Ive been in contact with david blunkett, because i was a bit confused:confused:. there seems to be two company names in the mix. ive spoken to the people at Urban-i but everyone talks about Bar24 owning the site. His PA wasnt aware of Urban-i so i gave her all the details and she said she would email me when she has more info. This morning i receve a email from the big man, i thought id put it on the forum for everyone, I think it would be a great idea to have a meeting.:):)



The email receved

Further to your telephone conversation with my assistant, I have contacted Darryl Barker of Urban-i and have been advised that work on Dial House Court could start as early as 18 March.

This is not a definite date as all work depends on the re-instatement of the electricity supply to the site.

I have asked the contractors to liaise with local residents and to update them on the commencement of the work as soon as they are able.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

With best wishes

Yours sincerely





DAVID BLUNKETT

The email receved

Further to your telephone conversation with my assistant, I have contacted Darryl Barker of Urban-i and have been advised that work on Dial House Court could start as early as 18 March.

This is not a definite date as all work depends on the re-instatement of the electricity supply to the site.

I have asked the contractors to liaise with local residents and to update them on the commencement of the work as soon as they are able.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

With best wishes

Yours sincerely





DAVID BLUNKETT

Well they have told him a load of rubbish, I would be suprised if anything happens this year. They have left it hoping that due to all the bad weather it will end up in ruins on the floor, especially since they failed to burn it to the ground. Having that in the way has ruined there plans i guess. As for the re-instatement of the electricity supply, thats all crap. Whats up with generators ?

Ive been in contact with david blunkett, because i was a bit confused:confused:. there seems to be two company names in the mix. ive spoken to the people at Urban-i but everyone talks about Bar24 owning the site. His PA wasnt aware of Urban-i so i gave her all the details and she said she would email me when she has more info. This morning i receve a email from the big man, i thought id put it on the forum for everyone, I think it would be a great idea to have a meeting.:):)



The email receved

Further to your telephone conversation with my assistant, I have contacted Darryl Barker of Urban-i and have been advised that work on Dial House Court could start as early as 18 March.

This is not a definite date as all work depends on the re-instatement of the electricity supply to the site.

I have asked the contractors to liaise with local residents and to update them on the commencement of the work as soon as they are able.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

With best wishes

Yours sincerely





DAVID BLUNKETT

I was going to say how well he was typing for a blind guy, but then he left caps lock on when he typed his name! Rookie error.

Well yes i was thinking that myself but he must have a way of typing, maybe his pa does it for him.

the council should have stepped in on this long ago and done something !!

Been to many easter bonnet parades at the Dial House, oh and seen the Disco's there a few times too

Oh my god there has been three workmen on site doing things today, could they be................ might there be............... you never know they might be sorting thing out. we can live in hope.

Yeah I spotted that they had cleared it up a bit and there is a new lock up unit there as well.

Oh my god there has been three workmen on site doing things today, could they be................ might there be............... you never know they might be sorting thing out. we can live in hope.

they were given the section order that they must make the roof safe, this morning they were just trying to reerect the fencing to keep people out, presumably, they will just do what they have been ordered to do and will leave it again, it shouldnt have been sold to them.

they were given the section order that they must make the roof safe, this morning they were just trying to reerect the fencing to keep people out, presumably, they will just do what they have been ordered to do and will leave it again, it shouldnt have been sold to them.

Agreed , i dont think its fair on the residents who have to live around the site !!
the council should put the land up for sale and give what ever they make back to the developers etc.