View Full Version : Phanerothyme strikes again


venger
06-06-2005, 08:49
this post ©2005 Ulterior Industries. May not be reproduced in whole or in part without the express permission of the author


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

:thumbsup:

Love it :hihi:

msbehavin
06-06-2005, 08:52
Do explain dearest...:confused:

venger
06-06-2005, 09:01
Look at his signature at the bottom of his posts.

He has copyrighted all his past and present muses.

He legally owns his applied thoughts.

msbehavin
06-06-2005, 09:03
OOOOohhhh - I wanna do that! Pm me and tell me how!

Skatiechik
06-06-2005, 09:31
Originally posted by msbehavin
OOOOohhhh - I wanna do that! Pm me and tell me how!

:lol:

Cyclone
06-06-2005, 09:44
Originally posted by venger
Look at his signature at the bottom of his posts.

He has copyrighted all his past and present muses.

He legally owns his applied thoughts.

copyright is automatic, you don't have to indicate it or apply for it. But making it explicit that you retain the copyright might be wise on a public forum. It won't stop someone quoting you of course as what you have posted is in the form of a discussion and freely accessible.

Phanerothyme
06-06-2005, 09:45
Originally posted by venger
this post ©2005 Ulterior Industries. May not be reproduced in whole or in part without the express permission of the author


That copyright notice covers itself too Venger -

<starts calling solicitor>

:D

GazB
06-06-2005, 09:48
Wish I could have done that last week before a post of mine was taken and used in a national nesspaper without permission!

Phanerothyme
06-06-2005, 09:51
Originally posted by GazB
Wish I could have done that last week before a post of mine was taken and used in a national nesspaper without permission!

well that's what prompted it although it's only a silly sig and counts for nowt.

If you have posted a message in the public domain, and it is reproduced elsewhere then you only have recourse to copyright action if they are passing the writing off as someone else's.

If they just quote you as an anonymous user, or even with your username, its fair use.

Skatiechik
06-06-2005, 09:52
Originally posted by Cyclone
copyright is automatic, you don't have to indicate it or apply for it. But making it explicit that you retain the copyright might be wise on a public forum. It won't stop someone quoting you of course as what you have posted is in the form of a discussion and freely accessible.

In the cases of public forums the case normally is that anything you write is the copyright of the site owner and in choosing to write it in a post you have deemed to give it to them.

Of course this all depends on the terms and conditions of the site in question.

Skatiechik
06-06-2005, 09:53
Originally posted by GazB
Wish I could have done that last week before a post of mine was taken and used in a national nesspaper without permission!

Missed this, can you explain for us numpties not in the know please?

Cyclone
06-06-2005, 10:02
Originally posted by Skatiechik
In the cases of public forums the case normally is that anything you write is the copyright of the site owner and in choosing to write it in a post you have deemed to give it to them.

Of course this all depends on the terms and conditions of the site in question.

it's not mentioned in the site t's and c's, so we can assume that the copyright remains with the writer.

DanSumption
06-06-2005, 10:02
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
although it's only a silly sig and counts for nowt.
I shall be relying on that quote in my evidence, when you sue me for quoting it.

JoeP
06-06-2005, 10:08
Originally posted by Skatiechik
In the cases of public forums the case normally is that anything you write is the copyright of the site owner and in choosing to write it in a post you have deemed to give it to them.

Of course this all depends on the terms and conditions of the site in question.

Not quite.

In fact, frequently the contrary as otherwise the legal defence of many forums when sued - that of 'acting as a medium, not a publication' - would fail.

Copyright stays with the originbator of any work until it's assigned.

Assignment requires that there is some form of consideration in place - after all, it's a contract. As far as I know no one here has explicitly assigned their copyright to Geoff.

Afer a goodly number of books, articles, scripts and stuff the situation I've always experienced is that you have to explicitly assign or give away your copyright; copyright exists in a work at the moment of creation; copyright messages are not actually necessary under UK Law becauise of the fact that copyright exists from the moemnt of creation.

Joe

matsalleh
06-06-2005, 10:50
If I post a mesage with loads of spelin misteaks and someones desides to corect it for me,can I sue them for altering an originil dokument?Witch I own the kopyright two.
PS or does that become a new original document owned by the corrector ?

Cyclone
06-06-2005, 10:54
Originally posted by matsalleh
If I post a mesage with loads of spelin misteaks and someones desides to corect it for me,can I sue them for altering an originil dokument?Witch I own the kopyright two.

no, the t's & c's say that posts may be altered or deleted at the discretion of the site owner and those he empowers (the almighty mods :P ). I suppose technically they should make a note on it to indicate that it had been changed and was no longer what you wrote.

matsalleh
06-06-2005, 10:56
Originally posted by Cyclone
no, the t's & c's say that posts may be altered or deleted at the discretion of the site owner and those he empowers (the almighty mods :P ). I suppose technically they should make a note on it to indicate that it had been changed and was no longer what you wrote.
Yes but it tends not to be the mods who are obsessed with such mistakes. ;)

JoeP
06-06-2005, 10:57
Originally posted by Cyclone
no, the t's & c's say that posts may be altered or deleted at the discretion of the site owner and those he empowers (the almighty mods :P ). I suppose technically they should make a note on it to indicate that it had been changed and was no longer what you wrote.

That's one reason why we're more likely to pull a posting than alter it in some cases.

Just too much hassle to avoid the possibility of changing the meaning of something.

Joe

Phanerothyme
06-06-2005, 23:34
Originally posted by Cyclone
no, the t's & c's say that posts may be altered or deleted at the discretion of the site owner and those he empowers (the almighty mods :P ). I suppose technically they should make a note on it to indicate that it had been changed and was no longer what you wrote.

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Phanerothyme
06-06-2005, 23:37
It seems that copying and veryfying a PGP block from here generates an ascii armor incomplete error.....

fixed it - tricky on carriage returns through the clipboard....