What a great idea this is - a worthy cause to support:

http://www.betolerant.com

groovy i must buy one after the fondue party

I don’t think many forum users would be interested in that, most would rush to buy one that that was against tolerance and diversity. some of the posts and topics on this web site worry me i never new so many people were so intolerant of diversity, and what surprises me most is normal they think their views are.

Originally posted by Patrick2000
What a great idea this is - a worthy cause to support:

http://www.betolerant.com

It seems like yet another example of the reduction of a complex and multi-faceted issue to moral posturing and grandstanding - of a kind which is unfortunately all too prevalent at the moment (notably in relation to the global environment and global poverty).

Wearing a wristband is a kind of moral conspicuous consumption and is more of a fashion statement than anything else. It will have roughly the same impact on the issues it purports to address as any sartorial fashion - i.e. none at all. The current wristband fashion - for that is what it is - is a manifestation of a preference for simplistic, superficial and often exhibitionistic responses to complex and intractable problems as an alternative to thinking deeply about them - which is perhaps why they seem so attractive to celebrities in the music industry.

an the environmental consequences... can the wristbands be recycled??? or will we eventually see a big pile of them in a landfill some where?

good ethos though, tolerance! so long as it isn't pushed to far the other way expecting people to tolerant to the untolerable such as ... rude people for example

Ghastly idea. I don't need to wear my conscience on my wrist, or as badge on my lapel. This is just a gimmick to make money for the manufacturers. The sales blurb made me angry.......how does putting a tolerance wristband on a child make it behave differently? Wearing a wristband wouldn't make any difference over my giving up a seat on the bus. This is a marketing ploy to get people to buy something they don't need, and is of no practical use.

These sort of things tend to get hi-jacked by people with less idealistic motives. Did anyone see the photo of Nick Griffin, the BNP leader, who was wearing an anti-racist wristband during the general election? Who for one moment believes that he has been converted to the cause of tolerance?

My advice would be to save your money, but make a donation to a suitable charity.

Originally posted by zozzer
I don’t think many forum users would be interested in that, most would rush to buy one that that was against tolerance and diversity. some of the posts and topics on this web site worry me i never new so many people were so intolerant of diversity, and what surprises me most is normal they think their views are.

Well, we have quite a diverse range of people on this site, from teh far right to the left, from libertarians to anarchists, from city councillors to people who are apolitical.

The width of opinion on here is quite wide; people will obviously think their own views are normal; being in a forum like this helps to expose people to differing views.

Of course, it may be that the normal view of the population as a whole is towards being intolerant of diversity; without some sort of formal poll, how can we tell. Just because the situation may be different from what you want it to be doesn't make it 'wrong'.

Joe

Originally posted by JoePritchard
Well, we have quite a diverse range of people on this site, from teh far right to the left, from libertarians to anarchists, from city councillors to people who are apolitical.

The width of opinion on here is quite wide; people will obviously think their own views are normal; being in a forum like this helps to expose people to differing views.

Of course, it may be that the normal view of the population as a whole is towards being intolerant of diversity; without some sort of formal poll, how can we tell. Just because the situation may be different from what you want it to be doesn't make it 'wrong'.

Joe

Although diversity is a laudatory concept, it should not be regarded as an absolute good in all circumstances. To do so would be to accept without question the proposition that the more diversity there is in any society the better. Many would regard this proposition to be highly dubious.

Diversity is of value in avoiding a 'monoculture' of ideas which may eventually lead to an intellectually stale society, just as a single species in an environment may become too dependent upon a particular set of conditions.

Bringing in new ideas does add more to the intellectual 'gene pool'; whether those ideas are fit to 'breed' is another matter.

I think diversity is of value but not as an end to itself.

Joe

Joe,

Agreed - all societies benefit from leavening to a certain degree. But there is no optimum level of diversity upon which all members of society are likely to agree - it will probably always be a source of disagreement.

In any discussion of diversity though, i think the possible costs, as well as the benefits, of diversity should be addressed (for example, in relation to potential costs, I would mention possible effects on social cohesion as well as absorption costs). The idea that 'the more diversity the better' should not be taken for granted or indeed go unchallenged.

LC

Have i just invented the ANTIWRIST BAND Wristband - brown in colour and to never be worn with any of those fashion icons that povs buy off the market for two quid.
It would set you appart from the average STIG.

if you want to help someone donate or help out - don't go round saying 'look at me!!!! aren't i generous!! (sorry in a bad mood as usual) :mad: