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shirecliffe
14-12-2008, 10:02
Hi all does anyone remember when it snowed in june/july one summer. I think it was in the late 70s or early 80s did I dream it or am I just plain DAFT :loopy:. regards John.

jomarch
14-12-2008, 10:16
No, you didn't dream it. It snowed in June 75, a cricket match had to be cancelled in Buxton. It was a very cold June, and I got flu- but August was very hot and sunny, and the following summer of 76 was a record breaker.

In those days of course, we didn't blame global warming or climate change- we just put it down to the vagaries of the English weather.
Now, it has to have a cause and it all has to be our fault!

brooksy
14-12-2008, 10:43
It didnt actually snow at that cricket match it was hail.It did snow on very high ground in 1977 during the silver jubille

jomarch
14-12-2008, 10:48
Oh dear- that was just a myth then? it was a very cold June, though- I remember it well. Snow in 1977? See, climate change is nothing new!

Hecate
14-12-2008, 11:00
The snow at the June cricket match has been documented elsewhere:
Inevitably June snowfall is a much rarer creature, but widespread sleet and snow showers did manage to affect the United Kingdom on 2nd June 1975, rudely and infamously affecting a cricket match between Derbyshire and Lancashire at Buxton where early afternoon snow covered the pitch with around an inch of snow (Markham, 1994, Eden 1995). Elsewhere, snow settled on hills just south of Birmingham (Eden 1995), whilst to the south and east Manley (1975) reports snow being observed in both Cambridge and London and another county cricket match, this time featuring Essex and Kent, being played in Colchester was interrupted by snow (Ogley et al. 1993). Meanwhile, sleet showers were observed in RAF Manston in eastern Kent, Hassocks, Sussex and Totton and Portsmouth in Hampshire (COL Bulletin 1975, Eden 1995, Ogley en al 1995).

Refs for bold section:
Eden, P. (1995) Weatherwise. MacMilllan, p.323.
Markham, L. (1994) The Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire Weather Book. Countryside Books, p.128.

From here (http://www.dandantheweatherman.com/Bereklauw/latesnow.html).

max
14-12-2008, 11:01
Not a myth at all as shown here: Weather forum (http://www.netweather.tv/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t2671-350.html)

Famously, snow stopped play at a county cricket match between Derbyshire and Lancashire in Buxton, where snow reached an inch deep. It did not help Derbyshire after the snow thawed they suffered one of their biggest defeats.


I remember this well as we were on holiday on the Norfolk Broads listening to the match while drinking red wine in the sunshine.

jomarch
14-12-2008, 11:07
Aw thanks for that- didn't think I'd imagined it!

Grandad.Malky
14-12-2008, 11:14
Oh dear- that was just a myth then? it was a very cold June, though- I remember it well. Snow in 1977? See, climate change is nothing new!

I don’t think it had been even thought of then but no doubt our google experts will produce the statistics to prove me wrong.

I can remember it snowing and being white over but it melted just as quickly as it came.

CHAIRBOY
14-12-2008, 11:28
It didnt actually snow at that cricket match it was hail.It did snow on very high ground in 1977 during the silver jubille

Have a look at Page 40 of Wisden 1976! The Derbyshire v Lancashire match started on May 31 1975 and over an inch of snow fell on the Buxton ground ruling out any play on Monday, June 2. With wickets being uncovered at that time, Derbyshire were bowled out twice on the final day (sticky wicket) to give Lancashire an innings' win. "Dickie" Bird was one of the umpires.

brooksy
14-12-2008, 11:49
I checked on the charts and extended forecast for that day on net weather and it was deffo hail.The recorded weather showed hail.

medusa
14-12-2008, 11:52
I seem to remember going through snow on the trike one weekend in early July in 1990 or 91- we were planning on going to a carnival but got stuck as trikes aren't actually that good in snow!

jomarch
14-12-2008, 12:07
I checked on the charts and extended forecast for that day on net weather and it was deffo hail.The recorded weather showed hail.

Maybe deffo hail is a kind of snow! Seems the evidence is against you now, brooksy. Either way- it was cold!!

CHAIRBOY
14-12-2008, 12:15
I remember the occasion and the Wisden picture shows it.
"Snow prevents play at Buxton".
"A freak snow storm covered the ground."

Will these words convince you?

"Snow in Buxton in June 1975
Snow in June is incredibly rare, but widespread sleet and snow showers did manage to affect the United Kingdom on 2nd June 1975, rudely and infamously affecting a cricket match between Derbyshire and Lancashire at Buxton where early afternoon snow covered the pitch with around an inch of snow." http://www.thestar.co.uk/news?articleid=2957823

Plain Talker
14-12-2008, 12:23
I certainly remember the summer where we had a year's-worth of weather in about a week, including snow! it was the mid seventies.

I also remember going to work in considerable amounts of snow, on 17th April 1981.

Joanl
14-12-2008, 12:30
I can remember snow definitely falling in Sheffield on May 1st 1979...My mom died that day and we were running around in it, letting family and friends know.

CHAIRBOY
14-12-2008, 12:39
I certainly remember the summer where we had a year's-worth of weather in about a week, including snow! it was the mid seventies.

I also remember going to work in considerable amounts of snow, on 17th April 1981.

PT, were you at HS in the winter of 1978/9? That winter was particularly bad and made worse by the gritters' strike. I couldn't get my car near my house for over three weeks. Problems at High Storrs School were exacerbated because as well as the decrepit heating system, they ran out of fuel because the tankers couldn't get anywhere near the school as the roads were dangerous. Staff had to phone the heads of house at 8.30am and announce they were available for work, whereupon, like pupils, they remained at home!

lazarus
14-12-2008, 12:41
Ive known it snow as late as December !

Plain Talker
14-12-2008, 13:17
PT, were you at HS in the winter of 1978/9? That winter was particularly bad and made worse by the gritters' strike. I couldn't get my car near my house for over three weeks. Problems at High Storrs School were exacerbated because as well as the decrepit heating system, they ran out of fuel because the tankers couldn't get anywhere near the school as the roads were dangerous. Staff had to phone the heads of house at 8.30am and announce they were available for work, whereupon, like pupils, they remained at home!

That wasn't the year the pupils organised a strike about the heating was it?

(but, yes, I was there that year, left 1980)

teeny
14-12-2008, 16:10
That wasn't the year the pupils organised a strike about the heating was it?

(but, yes, I was there that year, left 1980)


We had that at our school and I do remember the snow in june in 75 i think but it alot of years but I know it did as I bet my uncle £5 it would snow befor October so by default i won lol

crookes
15-12-2008, 21:14
I remember the June snowfall. I took a photograph of it in Grimsby when we lived there. It was about two to three inches deep, but quickly disappeared.

turbostars
16-12-2008, 10:32
nice pics!