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steelblade
05-11-2003, 15:15
After reading about several incidents regarding youths and violence, particularly the tragic incident of a boy being stabbed to death at school yesterday I want to know if other people are as scared and shocked as I am?

I witness youths at their worst every Wednesday night when I work in my local shop. Their behaviour is disturbing to say the least. Assaulting cutomers, verbally abusing staff and customers, stealing, egg throwing, spitting in the shop, on the shop doors and windows, spitting on staff cars, threatening staff with violence etc...is a regular occurence.

I personally will not tolerate them and have had many heated discussions with them. Last week one of the little (insert your own description here) came into the shop smoking a cigarette. Now I smoke myself but I know you can't possible smoke in a shop, not a shop that sells food anyway. I got so angry with him and asked him did he think he was special? He looked at me quite puzzled until I explained that he wasn't special and he didn't have more rights than anyone else and he couldn't swan in the shop smoking.

It wasn't the fact he was smoking as such it was just the blatent attitude of "I'll do what I want, **** everyone else" that really peed me off and I couldn't hold my anger in.

i've been asked by my manager not to "aggrivate them" LOL They are children FFS!! why are we so scared of them?? Why should they be allowed to make people's lives a misery?

After what has happened yesterday I understand that there are some mental kids out there that wont think twice about stabbing you but goodness me if we all go about too scared to tell these kids off what on earth is going to happen to this country?

Are you the sort of person to shout at kids who are smashing a bus stop up, like myself, or are you the sort of person to keep your head down and not say anything? Which approach do you think is best?

PaulTansley
05-11-2003, 15:45
Your approach is best of course.
You were right to confront him because the chances are he wont be used to be confronted especially by his parents which may be the reason he is like he is.
The little ****es get on my wick when they behave in that way and the reason your boss asked you not confront him is because of the fear his windows will go through or some act of criminal damage will occur to his property.
I can understand his fears because they usually carry them out but letting them get away with things is not the right approach.

Some are saying bring conscription back but can you really honestly see these w*****s defending our country in battle, don't make me laugh, we will have an undedicated army.
Soldiers are for people who want to be soldiers and not be full of looses like the lad you confronted.

steelblade
05-11-2003, 15:48
You are right cycle but something needs to be done with them. Things really are out of control, everytime you open a paper or see the news there are always stories about youths stealing money from corpses (see todays star), youths stabbing people outside suppermarkets (again todays star) kids stabbing kids at schhol, kids terrorising their neighbours (see any paper any day of the week) it's getting beyond a joke now.

They need some discipline and if a year in a boot camp or something similar does do the job then I'm all for it. All I know is if something isn't done soon we are going to have one big mess on our hands.

DaBouncer
05-11-2003, 15:53
MILITARY SCHOOL!

PaulTansley
05-11-2003, 19:32
One thing about military schools.

Your offering louts the chance to supposingly improve there behaviour.

Have got no problem with that if the decent members of our young generation had the same rights.

The army will not exept a young recruit if he does'nt pass the medical or fitness test yet the louts get in simply because there louts.
The genuine keen young person who has behaved looses out.

That cannnot be right.

t020
05-11-2003, 23:12
Originally posted by steelblade

Children - Wepaons - Violence

Liberals - Lefties - Political Correctness.

Phanerothyme
06-11-2003, 00:04
Originally posted by t020
Liberals - Lefties - Political Correctness.
Succint, terse and entirely phatic.


Be Pure :: Be Vigilant :: Behave.

As for 'out of control' children, and I know the ones you mean - all children are different, and different strategies work on different kids. But for the most part it could all be prevented by structured parenting. Unfortunately it becomes a bit of a cycle 'He's his father's son' etc.
Breaking the cycle is the important thing, otherwise you change nothing apart from that individual kid.

But, unsurprisingly, parents do not always take kindly to being told how to bring up their kids when "My parents brought me up and I'm all right" (er, no, you're not).

The United Nations enshrines the right to create a family 'unit' as a fundamental human right. Some people believe that in order to be permitted to have children, you should need to pass the sort of inspection given to people trying to adopt.

Or is there a simpler solution to teaching parents how to discipline their children effectively, bearing in mind that no single one-size-fits-all method exists? A method or system that can be imparted to everyone, so if and when they do have kids, they'll know what to do with them.

nomme
06-11-2003, 09:27
Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Succint, terse and entirely phatic.


Be Pure :: Be Vigilant :: Behave.


I wonder how many others recognise that phrase. Phan - you are t020's Nemesis. LOL.

Nomme

Jack Yerbody
06-11-2003, 09:41
Only those of us daft enough to buy comics when we should know better...

Phanerothyme
06-11-2003, 15:16
Originally posted by nommedenet
I wonder how many others recognise that phrase. Phan - you are t020's Nemesis. LOL.

Nomme
Hehe. I thought that slogan would ring some bells at least - and t020 seems like the kind of guy who would like to eradicate us deviants

Got new avatar!

steelblade
07-11-2003, 13:21
There is hope:

http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=688341