View Full Version : Someone with loadsa money PLEASE open a gay bar in Sheffield!!


skyfitsboy
03-06-2005, 14:57
For a city the size of Sheffield the options to go out and get sloshed with your mates in a DECENT gay venue at the weekend is pretty crap!

OK weve got a few fairly mixed bars the Forum, Lounge, Takapuna, Halcyon, etc.. but their just not the same, there're really not!

Only decent gay event/venue we have in Sheffield is Climax, which sadly comes along only once a month :(

VIP & Moist whilst these are ok both on weekday nights aren't ideal if you week full time during the week.

So for a Saturday night out then if your gay/lesbian and want to go and feel secure and relaxed in a gay bar/club, without being made to feel uncomfortable and ridiculed by straight people, you only really have a choice of just Dempseys (chip pan chav joint at the bottom of the moor, lovely area of town!) or the vile sordid drug-riddled Club Xs and the other dire bar down Attercliffe (another gross part of Sheffield)

Sheffield's gay community desperately needs a full time quality gay bar/club within an attractive area of the city centre. The gap in the market here for the pink pound is HUGE!

It would only take one decent city centre gay bar to open and others would surely soon follow in it's brave footsteps.

A few years ago Leeds only had a couple of grotty gaybars at Bridge end and then along came Queens Court, which attracted Fibre, which kick started their now bustling gay scene involving huge clubs like Speed Queen, Federation and Mission.

Same thing happened in Nottingham (way smaller than Sheffield), which now has a good quality cluster of bars and a gay superclub NG1 to cater for its gay community.

Not even going to mention Manchester's gay scene which is in a league of it's own!

The contrast when you go out on the scene in Leeds and Nottingham to Sheffield hits you like a ton of bricks, it is so depressing when you think of the option's we have for a fab gay night out in Sheffield compared to them. :(

Why is the scene in Sheffield so poor, many will blame the council and local authorities, it is just one more indicator that Sheffield is just lagging so far far behind all the other major cities in the UK.

It makes me laugh when I read promotional material pumped out by the council and tourism boards describing Sheffield's nightlife as vibrant, diverse and cosmopolitan - WHAT A JOKE!

Guess I'll be down at Dempsey's then tomorrow night, one of my mates wants to go out on the scene in Sheffield and it's either there or Xs :(

JBee
03-06-2005, 15:03
Good rant Skyfitsboy. Am not gay, but still totally agree with you. The nightlife in Sheffield is laughably poor for such a large city, whichever team you bat for!

SimonS
03-06-2005, 15:48
Why can't Mission, Fibre, Speed Queen, Poptastic (or other Super Gay Club) try to do a regular night here?

I like all the signed photos in Dempseys.
Every famous person imaginable seems to be a fan........

Are there any other alternative gay nights in Sheffield??

nick2
03-06-2005, 15:52
We had a gay pub, in the middle of town, The Cossack, that was eventually run into the ground by gay owners trying to make it into more of a "gay bar".

There was a time (not so long ago) when there was a full time gay club, and several pubs/bars. They all closed down due to lack of customers, if it was feasable to run a gay bar in Sheffield I think someone would, bussiness is bussiness at the end of the day.

skyfitsboy
03-06-2005, 17:12
Originally posted by nick2
We had a gay pub, in the middle of town, The Cossack, that was eventually run into the ground by gay owners trying to make it into more of a "gay bar".

There was a time (not so long ago) when there was a full time gay club, and several pubs/bars. They all closed down due to lack of customers, if it was feasable to run a gay bar in Sheffield I think someone would, bussiness is bussiness at the end of the day.

Erm, yeah but did you see the state of these places, people stopped going because they was SH*T not because of the lack of market.

That is the biggest problem with gay bars/clubs in Sheffield, they all open with the cheapest nastiest venue they can find, often within the least most accessible parts of the city and make no effort whatsoever to provide the gay community with a classy quality venue that it deserves.

All we’ve seen so far is sleazy bars open, run by people who are only interested in putting as little money and effort into getting a gay pub/club up and running in the hope of cashing in on the pink pound potential in Sheffield.

The Cossack was basically just a garage extension, with council house carpet thrown down, cheap Wilko lights on the walls and furniture which looked second hand from a working men’s club.

Then these place's wonder why they end up closing down due to lack of custom.

The gay community here no longer has to drink and socialise in run-down, sleazy, underground style type places, hidden away from the rest of the public.

Sheffield's location is more or less in the centre of a Manchester, Leeds & Nottingham triangle, go to any of these cities gay venues and your guaranteed to see many Sheffield faces in there.

Climax has proven for years that there is an untapped market for the gay scene in Sheffield, because the venue is great and the organisers have a genuine interest in providing us with something no one else is offering in Sheffield.

Not quite sure why but Dempsey’s defies all this and also remains packed at the weekends, too packed at times.

If the refurb of the new pool room in Dempsey’s is anything to go by I shudder to think what the landlords of Dempsey’s homes must be like. Only they could decorate and actually make it look worse than it did before, lol!

nick2
03-06-2005, 18:48
What I liked about the Cossack was that it was a "mostly gay" pub it wasn't just gay, most of my mates are straight and were perfectly happy to go for a pint in the Cossack because it was just a pub that happened to have loads of gay customers it wasn't a "gay bar" as such.

I realise some people like to go to gay only pubs but it just feels a bit like the black/white segregation they used to have in America to me. It's nice to go the pubs/clubs in Manchester every now and again, but I wouldn't want to go to them every night, all the bitching and cruising etc. gets a bit tedious after a while.

If I had the money I woudl open something like VIP, but I would not make it exclusively gay.

Andy C
03-06-2005, 19:02
Yes, talking of the mixed bars I was curious to note that the main attraction at Cha Chas bar on a Friday night is a DJ in drag!

redrobbo
03-06-2005, 19:18
To think that, quite a few years ago now, one of the reasons that I chose to live in Sheffield (as opposed to Nottingham) was the gay scene. Where has it all gone?

Well, one of the reasons was the two guys from Leicester who took over the club in Attercliffe, and then opened a few bars in the same area. Trouble was, rather than co-operate with other gay venues in Sheffield, which would have provided choice and an interesting varied gay scene, competition broke out, and it became very cut throat.

The Albert was bulldozed to make way for the new road
system. The Cossack - one of the oldest gay bars in England - seemed to lose its way after a refurbishment, and lost customers in droves, before finally closing. Inbetween, Manchester exported a fantastically successful gay night to the City Hall, and the old Attercliffe club simply could not compete. The club owners shut up shop, sold out (now the Dancing Dollar - a straight venue) and their string of pubs closed with them.

Lastly, the success of London's Soho, Manchester's gay village (especially after Queer as Folk was screened on the telly) and Birmingham's gay village demonstrated that whilst gays still wanted their own territory (to drink, socialise and cruise), they no longer wanted to be hidden away in some industrial desert like Sheffield's Attercliffe. These successful gay scenes thrive because the bar and club owners co-operate, and provide niche venues and gay-community events, which pulls in the punters.

I've never been to Dempseys. It looks so unappealing from the outside - with those horrible, shuttered windows! I understand there is a door charge - and I object in principle to paying a poll tax to drink in a bar just because I am gay.

So, I mainly drink in straight venues in Sheffield, apart from attending a gay social group which meets at Xes (and, frankly, what a dire name that is!). When I fancy a night on the gay scene, I drive over to Manchester, or periodically stay over with friends in London. Luckily, the friends are moving to Brighton soon - so I'm looking forward to visiting another successful gay scene, down south.

Sheffield's gay scene? Non existent. Sadly, with Leeds, Manchester and Nottingham all within a hours drive - these are the cities where it is all happening now (and, unbelievably, even Hull has a thriving gay scene!). I can't see any investor staking their money in providing Sheffield with a decent venue. More's the pity though.

nick2
03-06-2005, 21:23
Blimey, you must be as ancient as me if you remember The Albert (and it's illegal imigrant strippers on Sunday night)

skyfitsboy
03-06-2005, 21:53
Originally posted by nick2
I realise some people like to go to gay only pubs but it just feels a bit like the black/white segregation they used to have in America to me. It's nice to go the pubs/clubs in Manchester every now and again, but I wouldn't want to go to them every night, all the bitching and cruising etc. gets a bit tedious after a while.


I knew this thread would attract a comment like this.

In an ideal world everyone could quite happily all socialise in the same bar, but in reality it doesnt work and it's not what everyone wants.

No way would I feel comfortable kissing my boyfriend in any of the so-called mixed bars in Sheffield. The Forum used to run a mixed night called Polysexual aimed at a gay/str8/anything goes market and I witnessed first hand how intolerent it actually was and ended the night ended up being ditched.

It's all about having a choice to go to a decent exclusively gay bar in your home city, a place where homophobic atittudes aren't tolerated, where you can just relax and be yourself without being insulted, ridiculed and threatened by ignorant tw*t's.

This black/white segregation comparison doesn't seem valid to me. We have rock bars, 80s & 70s bars, Lap Dancing clubs, House, Garage, drum & bass clubs, etc.. so is this segregation too?

Do we not deserve a choice where we want to go and get sloshed and spend our hard earned money?! :loopy:

redrobbo
03-06-2005, 22:24
Originally posted by nick2
Blimey, you must be as ancient as me if you remember The Albert (and it's illegal imigrant strippers on Sunday night)

More ancient! I'm 58, and I think you're around 36 if I recall correctly. I used to write the quizzes for The Albert. Once took a straight friend of mine from Derbyshire to The Albert quiz night. He hadn't a clue it was a gay venue until we were leaving, and I had to point it out to him. It was just such a good atmosphere in The Albert. Go to Xes - and risk being deafened by the music volume and go hoarse with trying to shout over it.

On reflection, take no notice of me - I must be getting old!

damo
03-06-2005, 22:28
i appreciate what you have said skyfitsboy but as has been proved with VIP and other gay nights in sheffield people rant they want all these things then don't bother going!

sheffields gay scene is backward to say the least when people would rather goto dempseys xcess etc than a nice bar on west st for example

nick2
03-06-2005, 23:06
Originally posted by skyfitsboy
I knew this thread would attract a comment like this.

No way would I feel comfortable kissing my boyfriend in any of the so-called mixed bars in Sheffield.

If your ideal night out is stood snogging and groping your boyfriend thats fine, but not everyone is into that, personally I like to save the physical affection for when I get home, but thats just me.

BTW I'm not madly keen on straight couples sharing spit in a pub either.

Kristian
03-06-2005, 23:25
Originally posted by nick2
If your ideal night out is stood snogging and groping your boyfriend thats fine, but not everyone is into that, personally I like to save the physical affection for when I get home, but thats just me.

BTW I'm not madly keen on straight couples sharing spit in a pub either.

Nick, I am confused by your post.

You might not be madly keen on affection in public, but there are those who don't think anything of it - straight or gay.

I can't say I've never had a snog in a bar - can you?

You seem to want a kind of bar where gay people can go with their 'significant other' and blend in. I hope one day gay bars are not needed because being gay is seen by the masses as as normal as being straight is. Unfortunately we don't live in these times yet, although things seem to be getting better. I would welcome a place in Sheffield that is classy, and that isn't filled with ignorant idiots who want to kick my head in because I show affection to another man.

Anyone who actually knows me on the forum in 'real life' will tell you that I don't have many gay friends; not by choice, but because I tend to make friends with people I meet if we get on, regardless of sexuality.

I don't want to see segregation; I don't want to create gay ghettos either. I just want to be able to do what the majority do without feeling that I am 'out of step'. To be able to go on a date without feeling like folk are staring, and actually being able to give someone the eye without wondering who is waiting for me outside would be a nice thing.

As I said before, I'd love to do all this alongside everyone else in a mainstream bar. Until that day comes, I'd like somewhere to go that isn't in a run-down back-street where I can enjoy a pint and a decent chat.

You make it clear in your posts that you are in a long term relationship; good for you! For those of us that aren't, spare a thought what it must be like! :|

nick2
04-06-2005, 00:05
Originally posted by Kristian
Nick, I am confused by your post.

You might not be madly keen on affection in public, but there are those who don't think anything of it - straight or gay.

I can't say I've never had a snog in a bar - can you?


What I meant was I don't feel the urge to shove my sexuality down peoples thoats (:))

Shiesh
04-06-2005, 00:10
I failed to post earlier even though I saw the thread and felt an opinion brewing...but because I am NOT gay... although... I have gay friends I just thought it best left to those in the know to post....

However, now (after a bottle of wine) I would like to say 'fine' to more gay venues in Sheffield and Yes it would be nice for those who wish to be with people of the same sexuality but that would be like opening bars for women only ...bars for men only.... bars for couples only ....for me the way forward now that homosexual relationships are generally more accepted by the up and growing generations is integration into the general social areas...I saw two blokes holding hands walking through Graves Park last week...so what...I wasn't offended by that at all....I think by having specific 'gay bars' just reinforces homophobic attitudes.

Just my opinion....no offence intended at all!


:thumbsup:

nick2
04-06-2005, 00:15
I too have had several glasses of wine, and I'm just not saying what I want to say because I can't put it into words.

Shiesh
04-06-2005, 00:25
Originally posted by nick2
I too have had several glasses of wine, and I'm just not saying what I want to say because I can't put it into words.

well I would suggest you try....;) it's better owt than in even if it don't make sense to us lot!

:thumbsup:

madowl
04-06-2005, 00:34
To open a gay bar is wrong, gays male or female should be able to live like everyone else and not hid away like dirt, people have to face up to the fact that times have changed. I know gay people and they dont bother me, after all we are all human.
And b4 you ask, no im not gay, live and let live life is too short.

Jon
04-06-2005, 00:39
Nothing wrong with opening more Gay bars and clubs in Sheffield it is the 21 century after all. But can't we all just meet someone we love in any old club or fancy or wanna go home with ;)

SimonS
04-06-2005, 07:58
I don't feel that I am restricted to going to Dempseys to be myself or to spend time with my partner (as I'm sure most other people aren't too).

I've just got back from a holiday where I went to gay clubs and bars in Vegas and San Francisco.

We are lucky to have Manc, Leeds, Birmingham and Nottingham a short journey and a cheap hotel room away.... They have as much or more great nightlife than I found in San Francisco.

And at least there are some places to go in Sheffield. Still it would be great to have more choice.

Maybe we should email some of the larger clubs in the above towns and get their response on why they don't try a night here?????

Or beg them!

Tony45
04-06-2005, 10:45
Who are you going to get to fill your classy gay bar.

Go to Dempsey's or Xes and have a look at the people that are in there. The reason why these places survive is because they cater for the marketplace that they are in.

But they're no different from somewhere like Mingdom on the str8 scene.

Sheffield is just starting to get some better bars opening up aimed at the more classy end of the market. The new office block and hotel by the Winter Gardens will hopefully get some decent tenents and if the Roxy ever gets redeveloped there will then be a good run from the peace gardens, through theatre land (Tudor Square) and onto Arundel gate that people who can appreciate nice things can enjoy.

Bar's are bricks and motar, they cannot be str8 or gay. It's the people in them that define them. You won't get beaten up for holding hands with your partner, str8 or gay, if you go to a nice bar filled with nice people.

Try my local www.ruskins.com

pete_jim
04-06-2005, 14:29
Sheffield's gay scene was quite lively during the 80's and I remember thinking then why is there nowhere smart to go?

Don't think that very much now but that's getting old for you, also don't feel the need to be with similar thinking/acting people.

But that's probably the general level of acceptance in society getting better.

Does anyone else remember the CHEKKERS(?) disco's at Roxy. I remember one Christmas the DJ announcing over the tannoy that there were nearly 1400 people in on that particular night. Drag Queens arriving on the bus, boys in tight satin outfits being led round on leads, it was such a hoot.

The point is that everyone made the effort to support it because it was all there was, the cross section of people was incredible. Nowadays people socialise far more at home in small groups, various alternatives are around like the Gay Outdoors Group, Gay Football Supporters etc.

skyfitsboy
04-06-2005, 14:36
Originally posted by damo
i appreciate what you have said skyfitsboy but as has been proved with VIP and other gay nights in Sheffield people rant they want all these things then don't bother going!

Sheffield’s gay scene is backward to say the least when people would rather got Dempsey’s xcess etc than a nice bar on west st for example

Yeah but VIP is on a week night, I’m talking more specifically about the weekends. It is so hard to enjoy yourself on a night out when you know you have got to be at work the next day.

I've only been to VIP once and downstairs was empty and upstairs had no atmosphere. I don't know why because it is a nice bar, but just don't think Thursday nights and Takapuna make a good combination.

Originally posted by nick2
If your ideal night out is stood snogging and groping your boyfriend that’s fine, but not everyone is into that, personally I like to save the physical affection for when I get home, but that’s just me.

BTW I'm not madly keen on straight couples sharing spit in a pub eitherNick your twisting my words here. I didn't state I wanted to go out and stand in a pub/club with my tongue down someone’s throat or being physically affection with someone of the same sex.

What I'm saying is it would be nice to know you could hold your partners hand or kiss them in an accepting environment.

Why be so narrow-minded, in an ideal we could all express our emotions wherever we wanted but that world doesn't exist yet, which is why a feel we all deserve public environment's where we can be ourselves if we want to be.

Originally posted by nick2
What I meant was I don't feel the urge to shove my sexuality down people’s throats

How the hell is holding your partners hand or giving them a kiss shoving it down peoples throats?!:loopy:

Why do you assume that this affection isn't genuine and just a ploy to say "look at me I'm GAY and I'm letting you know I’m GAY!"

Yeah there are people out there that want to draw everybody’s attention to their sexuality, but it is unfair to tarnish everyone with the same brush:rant:

Also how many time have ya been in a gay pub and seen heterosexual couples being affectionate? Would you say that was rubbing our noses in it?

Originally posted by madowl
To open a gay bar is wrong, gays male or female should be able to live like everyone else and not hid away like dirt, people have to face up to the fact that times have changed. I know gay people and they dont bother me, after all we are all human.
And b4 you ask, no im not gay, live and let live life is too short.

Great! Good for you but not everyone thinks this way;)

robbie
04-06-2005, 15:50
I think there is a lack of any good bars full stop in Shefield (let alone Gay bars)

Its often puzzled me why there isn't a gay area in Sheffield in the same way that most large cities have them. I always put it down to a certain amount of old fashioned intolerance.

I would agree with Nick that I don't like seeing anyone snog in public. Its hardly appealing seeing people swap saliva.

I also don't agree with gay only venues (but I'm straight so I probably would say that)

Kthebean
04-06-2005, 15:56
I'm not sure if I like the idea of gay only pubs since I wouldn't like to think of my gay friends going out without me! :) However I do think more bars should have a stricter no-nonsense policy about their customers getting abuse.

About people snogging. I was out the other night and I saw two men kissing in the green room. Because Id had a few and I've never really seen two men together like that (they were really going for it!) I think I was gawping a little bit! My friend had to tell me not to stare. After I just wanted to tell them that I wasn't staring cos I was disgusted (I thought it was quite sweet really they were obviously in love) I was just curious. I really hope I didn't offend them!

I don't understand why people get upset about others kissing in front of them. You don't have to look do you! Maybe in the post office or whatever its a bit inappropriate, but I like to see people kissing in bars and pubs, I think its sweet.

skyfitsboy
04-06-2005, 16:02
There seems to be some confusion on here about gay bars.

No gay bar I have ever been to operates a "if ya not gay your not coming in" door policy, how the hell would they enforce that, lol!:D

unners
04-06-2005, 16:32
Can we not just arrange for all our gay friends to meet up on 4 Saturdays in a row in some nice bar and gradually turn the place gay?

What bar would you like to turn Gay/Gayer?

SpiderPete
04-06-2005, 21:27
I thought I would have my 5 mins rant in ere ... yes Sheffiedl gay scene many many years ago was very good, but it did go downhill very fast ...

.. I used to enjoy The Albert, even went down on quiz night and what do we have now ... 2 choices ... Dempseys (who wont spend any decent money on the place) and Xes ...

Shame Takapuna isnt on a weekends as the place is really nice... just wrong night of the week... unless you dont work

Sheffield gay scene will never be like it was ... those days are gone...:(

cellarhigh
04-06-2005, 21:57
at the risk of sounding contraversial...

I've got lots of gay friends here (my gf is bi as well) and there really doesn't seem to be a market in Sheffield as much as there is elsewhere.

Climax very rarely sells out and its only does so when the straight club night at the uni on the same night does and climax gets the overspill of straight students - and thats a monthly night. If climax is meant to be representative of how good a proper gay club in sheffield could work, then it doesn't reflect it well enough for someone to risk all that money on building a G.A.Y or something similar.

Also I accept that people work midweek but coming from london I know that regardless of being a weekday that if Takapuna was having a gay thursday night in london or manchester that it would be packed. Trouble is in Sheffield there isn't that same demand.

Its a shame cause im fully up for something like manchester in sheffield, and i do agree that sheffield does have a shortage of bars full stop. Its also exciting that Sheffield's growing the way it is and I love this city.

Nothing against sheffield tho beacause I love it but can even you imagine a bar having a strict door policy? I'm from london and you'd be laughed at by bouncers in upmarket places trying to get in wearing trainers or jeans however fashionable they may be and yet whenever I go out in sheffield i can get away with any casual wear because the clubs can't afford to turn people away.

Sheffield is growing and its becoming a very exciting place to be, but its at the very least 10 years behind manchester, leeds, birmingham and to be honest, nottingham as well.

Just be extremely happy that it costs just £10 for a manchester return with the last trains back being something like 2am - thats brilliant value especially when I use to spend that in taxis alone.

illodius
05-06-2005, 00:47
At the Earl we have considered a Gay night, but not sure it would work, or whether or not we'd get too much grief from the regulars, etc. I felt since coming here that there is no-one catering for the gay crowd. It's such a risk for a club owner to try, and I'm told that the gay market is fickle so if you did do night, they would probably not last long and be more trouble than it's worth...still it's a thought I will continue to ponder.

illodius
05-06-2005, 00:53
Originally posted by cellarhigh
at the risk of sounding contraversial...

I've got lots of gay friends here (my gf is bi as well) and there really doesn't seem to be a market in Sheffield as much as there is elsewhere.

Climax very rarely sells out and its only does so when the straight club night at the uni on the same night does and climax gets the overspill of straight students - and thats a monthly night. If climax is meant to be representative of how good a proper gay club in sheffield could work, then it doesn't reflect it well enough for someone to risk all that money on building a G.A.Y or something similar.

Also I accept that people work midweek but coming from london I know that regardless of being a weekday that if Takapuna was having a gay thursday night in london or manchester that it would be packed. Trouble is in Sheffield there isn't that same demand.

Its a shame cause im fully up for something like manchester in sheffield, and i do agree that sheffield does have a shortage of bars full stop. Its also exciting that Sheffield's growing the way it is and I love this city.

Nothing against sheffield tho beacause I love it but can even you imagine a bar having a strict door policy? I'm from london and you'd be laughed at by bouncers in upmarket places trying to get in wearing trainers or jeans however fashionable they may be and yet whenever I go out in sheffield i can get away with any casual wear because the clubs can't afford to turn people away.

Sheffield is growing and its becoming a very exciting place to be, but its at the very least 10 years behind manchester, leeds, birmingham and to be honest, nottingham as well.

Just be extremely happy that it costs just £10 for a manchester return with the last trains back being something like 2am - thats brilliant value especially when I use to spend that in taxis alone.

As a club owner myself of a few venues in Sheffield, I couldn't agree more with this above. It's not a easy call for a club owner to take this risk, unless you literally live the life style and even then risky. I've only lived here 4 years, but I get the feeling Sheffield is more conservative and 10 years behind London, but I'm sure it will change in time. On another note I've been also told the S and M crowd is massive here, along with fetishes etc etc, most active in the country, although it's just something I heard....

Deavon
05-06-2005, 01:54
I've been to Climax this year, but not Moist, VIP or Rusknins. So there's plenty out there to explore!

skyfitsboy
13-06-2005, 17:16
Originally posted by unners
Can we not just arrange for all our gay friends to meet up on 4 Saturdays in a row in some nice bar and gradually turn the place gay?

What bar would you like to turn Gay/Gayer?

That's a great idea lol!

I would probably turn Bai Hoi or Crystal gay/gayer:P

unners
13-06-2005, 22:04
Originally posted by skyfitsboy
That's a great idea lol!

I would probably turn Bai Hoi or Crystal gay/gayer:P

Lets turn Bai Hoi gay, as when i went past earlier i noticed Stella at £1.95 bargin!

richynomates
14-06-2005, 09:29
Turning a bar gay is what we did when I lived in north Wales - and it worked a treat, until the rather slow landlady got wise to it. I was turned away at the door for the hideous crime of having bleached blonde hair and Buffalo boots on!! the sign on the door said "no bum boys allowed"
looking back, I guess she had a right to turn such a mess away, but at the time, it was quite cool.
The bar then closed down about 2 months later, and we continued to travel to England in search of a scene....

Avalon
14-06-2005, 10:50
Originally posted by richynomates
Turning a bar gay is what we did when I lived in north Wales - and it worked a treat, until the rather slow landlady got wise to it. I was turned away at the door for the hideous crime of having bleached blonde hair and Buffalo boots on!! the sign on the door said "no bum boys allowed"
looking back, I guess she had a right to turn such a mess away, but at the time, it was quite cool.
The bar then closed down about 2 months later, and we continued to travel to England in search of a scene....

Visions of richynomates dressed up like Daffyd from Little Brittain...:rolleyes: :D

EDIT: On a more serious note, i would love to see a decent gay bar open in sheffield. Im not one for all this club business...i prefer to sit and have a drink, and a laugh with my mates, while looking at all the pretty boys....

bigjay
14-06-2005, 10:57
what night would be preferable........?

richynomates
14-06-2005, 11:28
Originally posted by bigjay
what night would be preferable........?
In answer to the original thread of opening a gaybar - all week long!! but in answer to the diverted topic "turning a bar gay" - i guess a Thursday, as it's nearly the weekend.
And in reply to Avalon wanting to sit and look at pretty boys, I found that All Bar One after work tends to fulfill that one people just being people - and no danger of anyone being dressed like Dafydd!

bigjay
14-06-2005, 11:33
i only ask as a friend of mine is thinking about having a gay night on a fri at his venue.......! just wondering if this would go down well.......

Avalon
14-06-2005, 12:59
Originally posted by richynomates
In answer to the original thread of opening a gaybar - all week long!! but in answer to the diverted topic "turning a bar gay" - i guess a Thursday, as it's nearly the weekend.
And in reply to Avalon wanting to sit and look at pretty boys, I found that All Bar One after work tends to fulfill that one people just being people - and no danger of anyone being dressed like Dafydd!

Phew! No Daffy'ds!

I couldt go on my own thou...and i am in leeds all week...perhaps we could have a "gay forum meet" in Leeds!?

skyfitsboy
14-06-2005, 13:16
That would be cool lol!

Thurdays nights are by far the best in Leeds, discovered this really chilled out very gay friendly bar just around the corner from the Corn Exchange called Jakes Bar, it has the most extensive range of drinks I have ever seen and the entire place is candlelit.

Then we move on to the courtyard and onto HOMO at Mission which is a fab night and dead cheap £1.50 drinks all night until 3am if you can handle it:D

bigjay
14-06-2005, 13:21
so a thurs night would be ok then......?

Avalon
14-06-2005, 13:25
Originally posted by skyfitsboy
That would be cool lol!

Thurdays nights are by far the best in Leeds, discovered this really chilled out very gay friendly bar just around the corner from the Corn Exchange called Jakes Bar, it has the most extensive range of drinks I have ever seen and the entire place is candlelit.

Then we move on to the courtyard and onto HOMO at Mission which is a fab night and dead cheap £1.50 drinks all night until 3am if you can handle it:D

Ill have to check that place out...i dunno where the Corn Exchange is though...and i canner go on my own..im a scardy pants!! :help: :sad:

isha
14-06-2005, 16:41
Originally posted by Tony45
Try my local www.ruskins.com

Your local? You sure it's not your bar? Only 7 posts in the 2 months you have been registered and all (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search.php?action=showresults&searchid=605159) of them refer to Ruskins and promote it :confused: :heyhey:

skyfitsboy
22-06-2005, 11:21
Now that ClubXs has been destroyed see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4117990.stm) the only full-time gay club in Sheffield is Dempseys!:thumbsup:

The health of the gay scene in Sheffield has never been in such a bad condition, we need a new gay club in the city centre really bad!!

SpiderPete
23-06-2005, 18:40
I must point out THIS IS NOT TRUE.


Please read the official statement on Xes website.

Xes fire is only upstairs, downstairs is not affected (http://www.club-xes.com/portal/)

So thankfully dumpseys isnt the only one left.

redrobbo
23-06-2005, 18:53
Originally posted by peter41


So thankfully dumpseys isnt the only one left.

I don't know whether to cheer or cry. :confused:

SpiderPete
23-06-2005, 18:56
No neither do I, dumspeys should have burned down then they would HAVE to decorate it.

Lucky_13
28-06-2005, 16:52
Interesting subject. The question that occurs to me is why is it that gays seem to define themselves by their sexuality? Why the need for a "gay" bar? Why not be content to go to a bar. Not a straight bar - I do not consider the average bar to be staight or gay, it's just a bar. Why is it that you want to be treated as equal yet everything you do centres around your sexuality?

Nathen
29-06-2005, 08:22
Why not try using a regular bar? opening a "gay" bar is a bit discriminatory don't you think?

Homosexuals would be up in arms if someone opened up a "straight" bar!

Talk about double standards!

Disco_Cat
29-06-2005, 08:57
Originally posted by Nathen
Why not try using a regular bar? opening a "gay" bar is a bit discriminatory don't you think?

Homosexuals would be up in arms if someone opened up a "straight" bar!

Talk about double standards!

To the best of my knowledge its' still perfectly legal for a landlord to bar someone because they're gay. I hope as a critic of discrimination you've been challenging this legal travesty.

And in reality most pubs I've been in the locals are more then happy to enforce a no queers policy upon any men daring to show even minimal affection to each other. Since this unwritten law doesn't apply to the straight couple eating each others face in the corner that seems like discrimination to me.

Talk about double standards!

Avalon
29-06-2005, 09:01
Originally posted by Nathen
Why not try using a regular bar? opening a "gay" bar is a bit discriminatory don't you think?

Homosexuals would be up in arms if someone opened up a "straight" bar!

Talk about double standards!

Originally posted by Disco_Cat
And in reality most pubs I've been in the locals are more then happy to enforce a no queers policy upon any men daring to show even minimal affection to each other. Since this unwritten law doesn't apply to the straight couple eating each others face in the corner that seems like discrimination to me.

Need i say more?