With all the recent publicity regards the wearing of Hoodies & Baseball caps do Forum members find youths that wear them in our area portray a threatening & intimidating attitude ?

I dont find them anymore intimidating than before. I think the government has finally realised that something needs to be dont to curb anti-social behaviour and has started by simplying giving youths a name 'hoodies'

I'm 6ft2 so tend to be fine although i have to admit then i'm always wary when walking through or round a large group of youths.

I never thought hoodies or such like would effect me... but the other day my partner and me drove passed a fair size gang of them... I felt a tad nervous if not a tad threatened... I put my foot down to get passed them as quick as possible... what has this world come to... the elder people now nervous of the youngsters of the world...

I dont blame anybody bringing in such rules of hoodies/baseball caps being banned from shopping centres etc... but there again at least we knew who we're looking out for... leaving a top or hat home may not make all that much difference... I guess in time we shall find out within the crime figures...

Lets not forget that they are mainly children under the hats, not some kind of superhuman monster, who 99.99% of the time won't do/say anything to you.

I have to disagree there nick - there is no reason to have a hood/cap on other than to achieve a certain look.
and that look is one of intimidation.

(unless its very cold)

I find I am wary of any group of 3 or more youths - hoodies or not. I realise that I am not a young person, but I regard those who follow such a stupid trend to be rather lacking in braincells. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why anyone finds it entertaining to vandalise things or threaten or harm other people - it is not something that you can look back on and be proud of is it?

Originally posted by Carl_Malibu
I have to disagree there nick - there is no reason to have a hood/cap on other than to achieve a certain look.
and that look is one of intimidation.

(unless its very cold)

I don't see which bit is intimidating, the hat or the hoody, or the two together, should the hood be up or down, what about trainers, is any particular brand more intimidating ?

I don't find clothing intimidating, unless it's a Nazi uniform or something, but 12 year olds in sportwear is hardly in the same league.

I'd be more worried about a group of "youths" decked-out in River Islands finest in Yates.

Obviously, not all groups of youths are out to cause trouble, but if you know that a certain look or trend is likely to make people think you're up to no good - why follow it?

i wear a hoody and a cap alot of the time but im never going to touch anyone unless they start hitting me!

probably about 90% of the people in hoodys arent doing it to scare you,calm down

although most chavs in baseball caps do want to start something

but hoodys are comfy

ps i barely wear my hood up

get a grip peeps.

can anyone honestly say that a cap or hoodie has ever atacked them, mine don't even say Boo.

as a regular female pedestrian i always wear me cap n hood, both have a purpose.

cap keeps sun, rain, wind out of me face. hoodie keps me neck warm, wind out my ears n rain off me head.
also on the plus side have never been approached or heckled, people even cross the road to leave my path free.

could it be the people wearing the clothing to be suspicious of, i think so.

also i believe crime is decreasing (according to my handy leaflet supplied with council tax bill) or are we paying for disinformation.

could it be a scared nation is a controlled nation? just summat to think about :suspect: :loopy:

its not as if its new, the teddy boys were feared, as were the leather clad rockers,i think the difference is that you were able to see their faces,unlike hoodies,and why the scarf over the face ?

thats what spooks people, kids dressing up to look threatening,
fair enough,ban the style of dress in shopping areas,but what about parks ? public transport?will they follow next ?

asbo orders,curfews,the government are implementing such things i believe, because they do not have enough police to patrol the streets so its like a government marshal law.

at one time a senior officer had to read out the riot act for it to be used on people who were anti social,now a police officer can decide on his own merit whether or not you are to be arrested and charged, a case of the few subjugating the many, in an earlier post some one asked should we bring back public flogging, perhaps this would be a bigger deterrent than a fine or a few cushy weeks in prison and im sure the police would not be as busy on weekends watching youngsters,perhaps they could spend more time chasing carreer criminals,drug pushers,rapists and the like.

I am nearly 49 & have wore baseball caps for nearly 20 years & have been wearing hoodies for about 5 years,A school recently added hoodies to the school uniform.If you take Hoodies & Baseball Caps off young kids they are still young kids,like the saying goes clothes don't make the man.Most of the kids where I live wear Hoodies & Caps but they are ok they don't cause trouble,I had my hair shaved as a 14 years old & was called a thug skinhead & I have never been in trouble with the law.The clothes are not the problem it is the do gooders who have told parents not to smack there kids & let them do what they want,the kids today need to learn respect & be disciplined by there parents.If not the parents need sorting out.

Originally posted by tosh13
I am nearly 49 & have wore baseball caps for nearly 20 years & have been wearing hoodies for about 5 years,A school recently added hoodies to the school uniform.If you take Hoodies & Baseball Caps off young kids they are still young kids,like the saying goes clothes don't make the man.Most of the kids where I live wear Hoodies & Caps but they are ok they don't cause trouble,I had my hair shaved as a 14 years old & was called a thug skinhead & I have never been in trouble with the law.The clothes are not the problem it is the do gooders who have told parents not to smack there kids & let them do what they want,the kids today need to learn respect & be disciplined by there parents.If not the parents need sorting out. well put ,but the do gooders will never except the logic of which you speak

My grandparents vote BNP because when my grandad walks through Birmingham city center he feels intimidated by the 'black' people around him, and thinks he's going to be mugged. He once got approached by a black man in a car park at night asking for money, my grandad jumped in the car and locked the doors. It transpired the man just needed somebody money for the machine. Yet my grandad's never been mugged, attacked or abused by a 'black' person. The time his home was broken into, it was by a 'white' person, the time his car broken into, again a 'white' person. Yet he doesn't mind about all the 'white' people he walks past on a day to day basis. He isn't racist as such, he's just scared of black people.

A similar attitude appears to be reflected in 'hoodies'. I wear a hoody a lot of the time, they're comfortable, they're warm and if you're looking a mess and/or have 'crap' clothes underneath they're easy to hide.

Sometimes I'll wear the hood up, maybe it's raining, it's cold, or I've just not had time to gel my hair and don't want to scare all the inhabitants of the world! When I wear a hoody it doesn't change the person I am when I don't wear a hoody, and it doesn't suddenly make some rebellious hooligan.

When I'm walking down the street with a group of friends wearing hoodies, it doesn't make us any different to how we are if we're wearing a suit and tie.

If you're walking down the street and a group of students wearing 'Sheffield University' or 'Sheffield Hallam' hoodies walk past, do you feel any differently to a group of people wearing a different type of hoodie?

It's not right to discriminate on what people wear - just because some people who committ crimes wear a hoodie, doesn't mean everybody who wears one is bad. I don't blame the people who feel the way they do, for reacting in the way they do. I just blame the media and the government. It just seems it's another of the moral panics that the media like to force upon us. I'm sure if you compared the number of crimes committed to the people who committed them wearing hoodies, the relation wouldn't be all that great.

I was wearing Hoodies, Basball caps and 25" Bottom jeans (Bankrupt saturday afternoon anyone?? :D ) About 15 Years ago, and have yet to mug an old lady.

We used to get together after school every night, come rain or snow, about 5 upto 35 of us, we hung out on the streets, or in local parks if they were still open...or we might find out one schoolmate was having a party, and crash it.

So, 15yrs on the debate still goes on...

I'm sad to find that it's also people my age, who should still remember back, that are now having it.

Theres good and bad in every colour....age....race...sex....religion...jeans... skirts....high heels....docker boots.....do I need to go on?

Asking the question.. 'ah, but if they are really decent kids, then why do they follow a fashion trend which is known to belong to 'thugs'...Firstly, who decided this? and secondly, i'm sure most people understand the term Peer Pressure?

Looking back on my youth, I looked a right tit....but the worst thing I did was to spend 8 months of my hormone riddled life saying 'get lost' and looking sullen.

I have to go now and hang my Marylin Manson T-Shirt out to dry (well I can't be seen in a dirty Tee can I :D )

the clobber we ware does not make us bad, people make us bad. i wear a baseball cap, does that make me a thug?? not in my life time. kids now days do it because they think its good street cred, what wallys!

Easy answer if you don't want kids wearing hoods. Either make them compulsary for school uniform, or start selling them in M&S aimed at people over 45. I don't like hoodies. they are either trying to intimidate or not be recoggnised. I don't like either motive.

Originally posted by Jess
I don't like hoodies. they are either trying to intimidate or not be recoggnised. I don't like either motive.

I wear them because they're comfortable, and warm.

Have you read ANY of the thread?

I wear hoodies and I bet I am old enough to be the dad to some of them. if I was asked to remove it the reply they would get they wouldnt like it. nobody is going to stop me wearing them and if they decided to take them off the shelves so people cant buy them, I would go out and buy say 50 of them I wear them because they have got my rock bands who I support, I am not talking the likes of the girl singers or the pop bands, I mean real groups like ac/dc, deep purple, iron maiden,metallica,motorhead,and as for baseball caps I wouldnt wear any of them if I was bald they should have kept them in the USA where they belong.

its just people getting paranoid again

whats next - ban helmets in motorcycle racing because you cant see there face

i think its mainly for security reasons why they are calling for a ban i know certain bars in the city centre ban hoodies and caps to be honest i cant see why anyone would object to that

Every teenage generation finds its own style. To wear it you become an accepted member with other like people.

I had a drape jacket with velvet collar, drainpipe trpousers and suede beetle crushers. A DA haircut and a dirty comb in my top jacket pocket. We went around in groups, chatted up the girls, combed our hair looking in shop windows, used coffee bars, didnt get off the pavement when people approached, listen to music our parent's hated etc. etc.

We never fought, we never attacked people, we never robbed or steamed, nicked cars etc etc.

We were teddy boys yet history portrays us as delinquents. There were some but they were in the minority.

Times dont change much

hi trying to be polite here so sorry if i dont sound it, the question on this topic is about sheffield and hallam hoodies not hoddies in general from what i can gather. im not sure about sheffield but hallam students are mainly nursing students or care at least, i cant believe that these students would do anything to put their training in danger. i myself am a nursing student and am wearing a hallam hoody as i type and im one of the soppyist (i know this is not an actual word) people you will ever meet. u cant judge everyone just by some people been idiots- its sterotyping and not to mention discrimination, if i judged all my friends by what everyone else had said about them- if its been on gender, ethnicity, racial background etc i wouldnt have them as mates infact no-one would talk to anyone so just try to remember that everyone is different. dont tar everyone with the same brush. thanx for listening kimmy xXx

Have you considered archeology as a career Kimmy?

Have you considered archeology as a career Kimmy?

lol can i justy ask why you said that?

It's not the clothes that makes someone a d**khead, it's the person themselves. This whole fear of teenagers thing is a bizarre feature of modern times. It used to be confined to old people but now it has spread to middle-aged and even young people too.

About a year or two back I was in a hairdressers and was reading a Daily Mirror column. It was about the teenagers who hung a small child from a tree as a joke (the child survived). The columnist was using this as an opportunity to rant against teenagers in general, and one priceless line was something like "if you look into the eyes of those feral monsters they are completely blank and you won't even see the faintest glimpse of human emotion itself". It was like she was describing a different species, not teenagers! It was so over-the-top ridiculous that I wish I'd bought a copy because it would have made a great signature.

kids with hoods and caps are abit of a handfull in packs, but that same as anything wearing a hood or not.

The type of hoodies round our end are all clean and tidy and can see they wear them as fashion. The lads wear white which easy show muck and i guess crap from hiding from the police in.:hihi:

The hoodies i have noticed that do make issues are the scruffy ones, They stink,look mucky ( coverd in mud and muck), usually have a can/bottle in the hand and hang around in 2's or 3's rather than a mass crowd. They are also dressed like teens but lads about 25 onwards ?

I always wear a hoody, whenever I buy a jacket its a hooded top, they are comfy and keep you warm, I never wear the hood up unless its raining tho.

I dont wear caps, well, because they dont suit me!

Its just groups of youths who intimidate people, but I do think that them wearing hoodys, caps & trackies makes things worse. I wonder what people would think if youths wore suits and hung around on street corners, see, it would'nt be the same, so I do think it deffinatly is the hoodys and caps.

lol can i justy ask why you said that?

You seem to have a talent for digging up old relics, such as this post :hihi:

I had a gang of them last night up wisewood stare into my car as they all stood in the same stance = hand down shellsuite, ghetto 2pac cocky walk ect.

When i drove past they did this rick flair whoooo noise lol, you could see they was looking for trouble.

Lets not forget that they are mainly children under the hats, not some kind of superhuman monster, who 99.99% of the time won't do/say anything to you.wrong..... i were hoddies and a cap.... and id bite ya head off!:P
clobber dont make "The Yob" just cos they were hoodies dont make em all yobs... so i have to agree with you mate.

I have never felt intimidated in Sheffield by anyone.

Teenagers are loud and boisterous and in the case of boys, trying to learn to be men. I feel the messages they receive through the media are very mixed. As an earlier poster said it is nothing new and in the 50s people were scared of teddy boys. usually just smile at them. I also agree with the poster who said that other teenagers are scared of them. This is true. My own son hated going anywhere there was a gang of teenagers including school. He is a more mature person and simply finds their behavior childish but at times threatening and has no desire to get involved.

Oh yes I also forgot to mention that I also wear hoodies and caps from time to time so watch out I am out to get ya!!! :-)

I also wear hoodies and caps from time to time so watch out I am out to get ya!!! :-)Thats it then... we are the forum hoddie crew..:D should we ask the mods for an forum asbo?
ya knaw wha'ah mean dude...:P


:hihi:

Lets not forget that they are mainly children under the hats, not some kind of superhuman monster, who 99.99% of the time won't do/say anything to you.

I agree with what your saying. I agree but unfortunatly we cannot accuratly describe in words the sort of baseball cap chav scum and difference them from the normal kids wearing hoodies and baseball caps who keep themselves to themselves. However everyone here knows what the difference is when they meet the scumbag ones. Way they act how they respond to fellow members of the public etc.

Easy answer if you don't want kids wearing hoods. Either make them compulsary for school uniform, or start selling them in M&S aimed at people over 45. I don't like hoodies. they are either trying to intimidate or not be recoggnised. I don't like either motive.

Or proud of the university they got in after studying hard for exams and earning the right to wear a hoodie with there uni on.:D

I agree with what your saying. I agree but unfortunatly we cannot accuratly describe in words the sort of baseball cap chav scum and difference them from the normal kids wearing hoodies and baseball caps who keep themselves to themselves. However everyone here knows what the difference is when they meet the scumbag ones. Way they act how they respond to fellow members of the public etc.

Very true.

I watched a group of youths deliberately pull on their hoods and tie them tightly round their faces before trying to steal/ damage a motor bike.
hazel

It's all just fashion in my opinion. When I was a teenager you would have suffered social death if your mother had made you wear a hoodie. The implication being that you were so soft that you needed the hood. If you had a top with a hood you kept it down, even in pouring rain, to show how tough you were.

I saw a thread where people said they were intimidated by goths, a group who would regard any violence as completely uncool and as endangering their carefully arranged "dishevelled" hair.

i think hoddies arnt as bad as everyone makes out..you dont need to have a hood or a hat to rob someone people just get parnoid.would u ask a muslium to take there turpin of [sorry about spelling] the other day i got on a bus to go to my cousre at 9.00am in a morning..i had by hood up but i clearly pulled it back so u could see my face..then the bus driver told me to take my hood down i asked why and he said either take it off or get of ..so i just turned around and got off,then the next bus i got on the bus driver diddent say athing

Just for info, it is Sikh men who wear turbans, not Muslims.

thanks as i have know idea but there the onlyones i know m8

I find I am wary of any group of 3 or more youths - hoodies or not. I realise that I am not a young person, but I regard those who follow such a stupid trend to be rather lacking in braincells. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why anyone finds it entertaining to vandalise things or threaten or harm other people - it is not something that you can look back on and be proud of is it?

My thoughts exactly. Also, they look really stupid with their caps on and hoods up, when the sun is belting down.

What these kids don't yet realise (and what I didn't realise when I was 16 in my glam rock gear) is that it is nothing but a uniform. All those little "think they are hard" teenagers trying desperately to be different all with their hoodies and caps.

I am 51, female, well above the average size and if I go into my Mr Benn wardrobe I can dress like them, baggy jeans, hoodie and cap. And believe me if there is anything more likely to stop these kids from wearing them it is the sight of me and other older people in them....how ridiculous do we look? :hihi:

And in 20 years time there will be someone posting on this forum saying about the youth and what they wear and hopefully someone will dredge up this thread and read this post and have a laugh that they were no different.

Its just a uniform, no different to their school uniform, they will grow out of it and move on to something else. :D

This whole HOODIE thing is a word made up by peoplewho have to label everything. These kids like to be seen as hard, dangerous, scary and thats why they dress like that but some of them are nice. I have plenty of mates who wud fit into the hoodie category by what they wear - even me sometimes. They dont go round scaring the witts out of old people.

if Gordon Brown wore a hoodie they'd soon go out of fasion

lets face it they want to look like low life scum and they do

I watched a group of youths deliberately pull on their hoods and tie them tightly round their faces before trying to steal/ damage a motor bike.
hazel

Was it a Pizza delivery moped? Perhaps they were embarrassed about stealing it, but too thick to steal a real bike:hihi:

I agree with the post earlier about groups can appear intimidating, after all why do they cover their faces?. (yeah I know fashion blah blah;))

I got a fare(taxi) yesterday and it was 2 hooded up lads from a dodgy pub, in an area I don't normally work. I didn't like the look of them, but before I had the chance to scan them a bit more and decide whether to drive off or not, they were in.

Both sat behind me, and started talkin about coppers taking their car. I can't say they didn't unnerve me, because they did. I was even more surprised when they asked to go to a posh new block of flats in Neepsend(dropping at flats is sus, runners etc) then Whirlow!!! :hihi:

They turned out to be 2 sound young lads. And paid me ok. Don't really know why I mentioned this story, it's not saying all hoodies are good, just you never can tell.

^^ I've just realised, if they read this, they'll have a good laugh at me, (and gain some 'respec' with their mates):hihi::hihi:
I have plenty of mates who wud fit into the hoodie category by what they wear
what hoods?

:P

Was it a Pizza delivery moped? Perhaps they were embarrassed about stealing it, but too thick to steal a real bike:hihi:

I agree with the post earlier about groups can appear intimidating, after all why do they cover their faces?. (yeah I know fashion blah blah;))

I got a fare(taxi) yesterday and it was 2 hooded up lads from a dodgy pub, in an area I don't normally work. I didn't like the look of them, but before I had the chance to scan them a bit more and decide whether to drive off or not, they were in.

Both sat behind me, and started talkin about coppers taking their car. I can't say they didn't unnerve me, because they did. I was even more surprised when they asked to go to a posh new block of flats in Neepsend(dropping at flats is sus, runners etc) then Whirlow!!! :hihi:

They turned out to be 2 sound young lads. And paid me ok. Don't really know why I mentioned this story, it's not saying all hoodies are good, just you never can tell.

No Ash
They were stealing the bike.
Jumping on the front wheel, to I think disable the lock. I took a photo of them and sent for the police.
Not so funny if it is your bike/property they are stealing.
hazel

ok this is to everyone that thinks everyone thats wears hoddies are bad.

all men are ar*e holes, all women are bi*ches, all kids are brats, all old people are boaring and a pain in the ar*e!!!

one of my housemates is german its like me sayin shes a natzi not shes a lovely person and me and her get on because i didnt judge her

i was beaten as a child but i dont think that all men are going to beat me

i was stung by a wasp when i was younger but i not that not all wasps are going to sting me

iv been hurt by my friends but not all my friends are going to hurt me

look around at all the people you lable/pidgen hole/tar with the same brush what ever you want to call it and make mental notes see if they all act the same, see if your pre-conseptions are justified, i bet their not but it just makes you feel good to do it if i judged you for something would you like it?? i bet there would be more than one thing i could lable you for!