http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

Oh yes. Yes yes yes yes yes.

And, speaking as a fanboy.

YES!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

Oh yes. Yes yes yes yes yes.

And, speaking as a fanboy.

YES!

I can't wait for this either. My only concern is the delay in releasing it, the trailer has been doing the rounds since January; and it was meant to be released this Christmas.

Being a fan of Star trek i can't wait to see it

My concern at the film is that the writers (Orci and Kurtzman) are not that great in my opinion (they wrote some Alias epsiodes, last years turgid Transformers film, and they are responsible for the dreadful Fringe Tv series), and JJ is a bit hit and miss.

I want the film to be good, as a lifelong Trekkie (note - Trekkie, not Trekker, TOS was, and always will be, my favourite) I really want to see the franchise given a jump start after it was bludgeoned within an inch of its life with Voyager (it was kept on life support for a few years with Enterprise, but it wasn't enough to salvage the remains). I just refuse to get too excited about it. Yes, the trailer looks great, but everyone raved about the Alien V Predator 2 trailer last year, and the Indy 4 trailer this year.....look what they turned out like.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed right until it gets released.

My concern at the film is that the writers (Orci and Kurtzman) are not that great in my opinion (they wrote some Alias epsiodes, last years turgid Transformers film, and they are responsible for the dreadful Fringe Tv series), and JJ is a bit hit and miss.

I want the film to be good, as a lifelong Trekkie (note - Trekkie, not Trekker, TOS was, and always will be, my favourite) I really want to see the franchise given a jump start after it was bludgeoned within an inch of its life with Voyager (it was kept on life support for a few years with Enterprise, but it wasn't enough to salvage the remains). I just refuse to get too excited about it. Yes, the trailer looks great, but everyone raved about the Alien V Predator 2 trailer last year, and the Indy 4 trailer this year.....look what they turned out like.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed right until it gets released.

I loved Transformers. In Glorious HD and with my brain off, it does exactly what it says on the tin.

I think the outside POV will help reinvigorate the franchise. I'm sure there'll be a whiff of cheese, and some terrible in jokes... but after the horrors of films nine and ten (what a horrible decade for Trek it's been) and the damp squib of enterprise.... it needs something!

Agreed, I am reserving judgement on the new Trek till I see it, but it can't be any worse than Insurrection or Nemesis were.

Agreed, I am reserving judgement on the new Trek till I see it, but it can't be any worse than Insurrection or Nemesis were.

For once we're in agreement.

Still, it looks a damn sight more exciting than the motion(less) picture!

Zachary Quinto, (Sylar, in "Heroes") is playing the "young" Spock!!!

Zachary Quinto, (Sylar, in "Heroes") is playing the "young" Spock!!!

Simon Pegg is playing Scotty.

Karl Urban as Bones is, in my opinion, genius casting!

Zachary Quinto, (Sylar, in "Heroes") is playing the "young" Spock!!!

looking forward to seeing him play spock:D he's great in heroes

but it can't be any worse than Insurrection or Nemesis were.

Oh I wish you hadn't said that...

I watched "First Contact" again last night - by far the best TNG Trek movie. The following two didn't compare.

Hmmm. So the Trek producers have decided to copy what they have done with the James Bond series and go right back to the beginning and start again. It certainly worked with Casino Royale, but I wonder where it will lead with Star Trek. Does this mean we are going to get a new generation of films based on TOS but with all new actors playing the iconic roles? I'm really not convinced that is the best way to re-inviograte the franchise.

I saw this trailer last week and although it does look very good, I'm trying not to get too excited by it. I'll certainly go and watch it but I will reserve judgement until then.

Excellent news! the film looks quality from the trailers.... best of all though it's got Winona Ryder in there too :love::love::love::love:

The comments section in The Reg makes amusing reading. Seems the geeks are not impressed!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/21/star_trek_prequel_pics_and_trailer/comments/

Hmmm. So the Trek producers have decided to copy what they have done with the James Bond series and go right back to the beginning and start again. It certainly worked with Casino Royale, but I wonder where it will lead with Star Trek. Does this mean we are going to get a new generation of films based on TOS but with all new actors playing the iconic roles? I'm really not convinced that is the best way to re-inviograte the franchise.

I saw this trailer last week and although it does look very good, I'm trying not to get too excited by it. I'll certainly go and watch it but I will reserve judgement until then.

The problem though, is that of the original crew, there's only Kirk (Bill Shatner), Spock (Leonard Nimoy), Sulu (George Takei) and possibly Uhura (Nichelle Nichols) left, McCoy and Scotty died over 2 years ago.

The problem though, is that of the original crew, there's only Kirk (Bill Shatner), Spock (Leonard Nimoy), Sulu (George Takei) and possibly Uhura (Nichelle Nichols) left, McCoy and Scotty died over 2 years ago.

Don't forget Walter Koenig who played Chekov ;)

I'm not suggesting for a second that they should have brought back the original cast, just not sure how successful it will be with a whole new cast.

I acknowledge that they needed to do something to re-vitalise the franchise because even the TNG team are getting a bit too long in the tooth for it now (and the acting skills of some of them, even though they may have worked on the TV screen, were not up to standard for film work IMHO) so a new direction was definitely needed. I'm just not convinced this is the right way to go.

I have two friends who worked on the film! One was part of the costume crew, the other was an extra. Can't wait to see it!

I know this film has been out for ages and I enjoyed the three times I've seen it with a very big grumble. I absolutely hate the bridge design in fact the entire ship design internally as it bears almost no resemblence to the original series. I'm sure the trekkies will of got lots of other things that don't equate but for me the ship should of been made to look as close to the original as possible which would of made far more sense.

I know this film has been out for ages and I enjoyed the three times I've seen it with a very big grumble. I absolutely hate the bridge design in fact the entire ship design internally as it bears almost no resemblence to the original series. I'm sure the trekkies will of got lots of other things that don't equate but for me the ship should of been made to look as close to the original as possible which would of made far more sense.
lol out for ages? this threrads from 2008?

Benedict Cumberbatch is has been cast as the villain in the next Star Trek movie.

I think the first time I saw it was when it was released on DVD and it was on TV a few nights ago that made me grump all over again. I know that it's only a little thing but do think the yukky ship design will of peeved a lot of people who have probably been fans since the original series.
Must admit i always liked the one when the officers of DS 9 went back to the era of Kirk and Kirk walked down the line of crew which included a couple of the DS 9 lot. Always wanted to see the original again to see how they were slipped in.
The young crew were reasonably convincing with the possible exception of Uhura who didn't look like a younger version and the young Spock stole the show

I think the first time I saw it was when it was released on DVD and it was on TV a few nights ago that made me grump all over again. I know that it's only a little thing but do think the yukky ship design will of peeved a lot of people who have probably been fans since the original series.
Must admit i always liked the one when the officers of DS 9 went back to the era of Kirk and Kirk walked down the line of crew which included a couple of the DS 9 lot. Always wanted to see the original again to see how they were slipped in.
The young crew were reasonably convincing with the possible exception of Uhura who didn't look like a younger version and the young Spock stole the show

As a big Star Trek fan I liked the new design. I think that it showed a difference between this and the previous incarnations, so instead of remaking the original series it is following its own direction.

I was reading on another discussion board that the differences could be explained away as it's an alternate time line so the previous Star Fleet ship designers had never existed or been involved in the Enterprise design.
I seem to remember they did the same thing with the Klingon ship bridge in the Voyage home as it looked nothing like it had in the previous film, I suppose I just like continuity.

I was reading on another discussion board that the differences could be explained away as it's an alternate time line so the previous Star Fleet ship designers had never existed or been involved in the Enterprise design.

That is pretty much the excepted explanation, basically right from the off in the 2009 Star Trek film, everything that follows will be somewhat different than what we knew..

With the attack on the USS Kelvin by Nero (bad guy from the future) some 25 years or so before the stories we already knew about Kirk and co. then the time line has changed from that point on..

In the timeline of the film the 'federation' is a lot more militaristic, and ship design altered in the aftermath of the initial attack.. they're bigger, more powerful than in the original timeline.

For example there was only a few hundred people on the original tv series Enterprise, the one in the film was manned by over 1000.. that put's it in the same league as Picard's Enterprise-D.

http://kleigh.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/enterprise-size1.jpg

Only trouble wit that was when the shuttles were going into or onto the Enterprise the size didn't look that different from the one in the original TV series. I hadn't noticed the difference in crew numbers and would the one off encounter with Nero's ship really cause the Federation to become more militaristic ?

Only trouble wit that was when the shuttles were going into or onto the Enterprise the size didn't look that different from the one in the original TV series. I hadn't noticed the difference in crew numbers and would the one off encounter with Nero's ship really cause the Federation to become more militaristic ?

What?, the shuttles/shuttle bay scene (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091115173646/memoryalpha/en/images/0/0e/USS_Enterprise_%28alternate_universe%29_shuttlebay .jpg) were the trigger to the whole debate (http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/0/03/Enterprise-A_shuttlebay.jpg).. the Shuttle bay on the new Enterprise was HUGE in comparison to the original. There's screenshots aplenty if you care to look for them... the general consensus is the new shuttle bay had room for 20 shuttles..

As for whether or not the the whole incident with Nero's ship would have caused whatever, that is open for debate.. but from the outset everything will be different and on that there is no argument.

The idea is the studies afterwards into what happend when the Narada attacked the Kelvin led to an acceleration in technological advances.. bearing in mind it appeared and attacked with future technology..

Also the Federation was pretty much in it's formative years at the time of the attack, so who knows what would have happend. It doesn't take a great leap of faith to consider that when they'd faced an enemy with previously unheard of firepower and size they'd spend the next years gearing up to try to be able to defend against that kind of enemy.

Unfortunately for them, as they found out over Vulcan, Nero hadn't been sat idle for 25 years either..

Is Spock in it?

Is Spock in it?

Twice over.

I will admit to be looking forward to the new film as and when it is finished and despite any continuity blips I'm sure I'll enjoy it. I'll have to have a look-see though and see if I can find the technical blueprints for the nice new Enterprise as there used to be such stuff for all the previous time line ships and equipment. I even remember one for the transporters which included that gizmo the heisenberg uncertainty compensator (sorry probably got the name of that completely wrong)

I will admit to be looking forward to the new film as and when it is finished and despite any continuity blips I'm sure I'll enjoy it. I'll have to have a look-see though and see if I can find the technical blueprints for the nice new Enterprise as there used to be such stuff for all the previous time line ships and equipment. I even remember one for the transporters which included that gizmo the heisenberg uncertainty compensator (sorry probably got the name of that completely wrong)

I think you mean the 'It cannna take any more' thing of the Scottish bloke.

Twice over.

How many 'Spock' actors? I thought the real one was dead?

How many 'Spock' actors? I thought the real one was dead?

Leonard Nimoy appears as an elderly Spock who's been dragged backwards in time; Zachary Quinto appears as a young Spock just entering Starfleet.

I don't know if Nimoy is alive today, but obviously he was still alive when the film was made.

How many 'Spock' actors? I thought the real one was dead?

There's 3 Spock actors in the film..

One is Spock as a Child.
There's the 'new' Spock played by Zachary Quinto
The 'old-original' Spock played by Leonard Nimoy (who hasn't died btw).

There's 3 Spock actors in the film..

One is Spock as a Child.
There's the 'new' Spock played by Zachary Quinto
The 'old-original' Spock played by Leonard Nimoy (who hasn't died btw).

Oh, thanks for that. How old is Nimoy now?

According to Wikipedia, he'll turn 71 next month. (Which would make him only in his early thirties during the original Star Trek, but he always looked a good deal older than that to my eyes.)


*err, 81, not 71. If I could count properly it wouldn't come as such as surprise to me that he looked in his forties during Star Trek. :D

81 in March.

That is unreal, I wonder if he could 'hack' making a film again?

I do agree, the ship looked too modern and new compared to the original...

the new film's ship used 'newer' type of controls, touch screens, and panels, instead of closer to the original which was switches and buttons...

since it was supposed to have been set before the original series, they should have kept the feel of the older controls, and look...

...since it was supposed to have been set before the original series, they should have kept the feel of the older controls, and look...

yeah but realisitcally speaking the whole lot happens several hundred years in our future, you really think they'd be using CRT screens, big clicky switches, and brass knobs etc :D
If I had a complaint about it, it would be the "whiteness" of it all... it looked like it'd been designed by a combination of Apple and S+arck

yeah but realisitcally speaking the whole lot happens several hundred years in our future, you really think they'd be using CRT screens, big clicky switches, and brass knobs etc :D
If I had a complaint about it, it would be the "whiteness" of it all... it looked like it'd been designed by a combination of Apple and S+arck

Who was that bloke who looked like Shatner?

I do agree, the ship looked too modern and new compared to the original...

the new film's ship used 'newer' type of controls, touch screens, and panels, instead of closer to the original which was switches and buttons...

since it was supposed to have been set before the original series, they should have kept the feel of the older controls, and look...

JJ Abram's Star Trek was set in an alternate universe though, as explained above the Enterprise is a lot different than the one in the new series.

Who was that bloke who looked like Shatner?

I think that was T. J. Hooker.

Who was that bloke who looked like Shatner?

The guy who played Kirk in the film was Chris Pine

The guy who played Kirk in the film was Chris Pine
I remember him, He had a hit in the 80's with Love Supreme.

The guy who played Kirk in the film was Chris Pine

Is that the guy who was the son of the bloke who played 'lead' in the 'Rockford Files?'

I remember him, He had a hit in the 80's with Love Supreme.

I understand who you mean, but that was 'Davy Pines', he wrote songs for 'Mud' and 'Suzi Quattro'.

Is that the guy who was the son of the bloke who played 'lead' in the 'Rockford Files?'

No idea, but doesn't appear so (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1517976/)...

I understand who you mean, but that was 'Davy Pines', he wrote songs for 'Mud' and 'Suzi Quattro'.

That's him. Who is the other guy, I just can't get out of my head?

I remember him, He had a hit in the 80's with Love Supreme.

That was Will Downing. Based on the main theme from John Coltrane's 1964 original. Neither of them have ever appeared in a Star Trek episode or movie.

That was Will Downing. Based on the main theme from John Coltrane's 1964 original. Neither of them have ever appeared in a Star Trek episode or movie.

I think you are mistaken Vids, that chap played guitar in the band 'Echo and the bunnymen', he later went on to 'score' with many pros. I think he might be credited on a 'Trek' film.

I know this film has been out for ages and I enjoyed the three times I've seen it with a very big grumble. I absolutely hate the bridge design in fact the entire ship design internally as it bears almost no resemblence to the original series. I'm sure the trekkies will of got lots of other things that don't equate but for me the ship should of been made to look as close to the original as possible which would of made far more sense.

I wouldn't say it bore "almost no resemblence to the original series"

The new one is bulkier, and more 'warlike' with very good reason. In the new timeline created by Nero and his Romulan craft of destruction, the Federation had encountered a major, unbeatable enemy early on...thus they tailor the vessels to be bulky, shielded, and warships. In classic Trek timeline they were explorers. The tech in the new timeline was forced to advance much quicker, and so the ship looks more advanced than classic era.

They are no longer vessels for scientists and explorers, but vessels built for action.


(Plus there is the whole issue that your car looks more futuristic than the original enterprise interior did - would kind of prevent suspension of disbelief if they had computer banks of big bulky levers and lights)

I wouldn't say it bore "almost no resemblence to the original series"

The new one is bulkier, and more 'warlike' with very good reason. In the new timeline created by Nero and his Romulan craft of destruction, the Federation had encountered a major, unbeatable enemy early on...thus they tailor the vessels to be bulky, shielded, and warships. In classic Trek timeline they were explorers. The tech in the new timeline was forced to advance much quicker, and so the ship looks more advanced than classic era.

They are no longer vessels for scientists and explorers, but vessels built for action.


(Plus there is the whole issue that your car looks more futuristic than the original enterprise interior did - would kind of prevent suspension of disbelief if they had computer banks of big bulky levers and lights)

Top stuff, I have NEVER SEEN YOU POST before, glad to have you on the forum mate. Why don't you post more? :(

That is unreal, I wonder if he could 'hack' making a film again?

He's on record as saying that he will not appear in any future Star Trek movies; partly because he's too old but also partly because he thinks Quinto should be given free reign in the role and not have everybody going "but Nimoy was better in the film than he was."

I wouldn't say it bore "almost no resemblence to the original series"

The new one is bulkier, and more 'warlike' with very good reason. In the new timeline created by Nero and his Romulan craft of destruction, the Federation had encountered a major, unbeatable enemy early on...thus they tailor the vessels to be bulky, shielded, and warships. In classic Trek timeline they were explorers. The tech in the new timeline was forced to advance much quicker, and so the ship looks more advanced than classic era.

They are no longer vessels for scientists and explorers, but vessels built for action.


(Plus there is the whole issue that your car looks more futuristic than the original enterprise interior did - would kind of prevent suspension of disbelief if they had computer banks of big bulky levers and lights)

So instead of discovering and entering new areas, they are now protecting themselves against intrusion?

He's on record as saying that he will not appear in any future Star Trek movies; partly because he's too old but also partly because he thinks Quinto should be given free reign in the role and not have everybody going "but Nimoy was better in the film than he was."

I agree, but shirley he will. Just as a cameo, he needs to be in the film IMO :(

I've been looking around on various web sites and have found some of the blueprints for the original series Enterprise and have then managed to find a site which referred to the new look Enterprise and in size it does seem to be almost twice as big.
I can accept the idea of the alternate timeline needing and possibly becoming more militaristic but the new bridge layout and design looks rather weedy or rickety which doesn't seem very practical for a ship designed for combat.
One thing that was in keeping with the original was the fact that McCoy seemed to find reasons to be on the bridge fairly often and as the young Scotty had a Tribble I hope they put in an appearance again.
I always liked the look of Archers Enterprise with it's knobs and levers and have come to the conclusion that I have spent maybe a little too muchtime on fictional blueprints and design features.
Roll on the next film

I've been looking around on various web sites and have found some of the blueprints for the original series Enterprise and have then managed to find a site which referred to the new look Enterprise and in size it does seem to be almost twice as big.
I can accept the idea of the alternate timeline needing and possibly becoming more militaristic but the new bridge layout and design looks rather weedy or rickety which doesn't seem very practical for a ship designed for combat.
One thing that was in keeping with the original was the fact that McCoy seemed to find reasons to be on the bridge fairly often and as the young Scotty had a Tribble I hope they put in an appearance again.
I always liked the look of Archers Enterprise with it's knobs and levers and have come to the conclusion that I have spent maybe a little too muchtime on fictional blueprints and design features.
Roll on the next film


So, with all that said, are you happy or not?

So instead of discovering and entering new areas, they are now protecting themselves against intrusion?

You really have me worried here, on many levels :suspect:

What do the hardcore trekheads want> intrusion or protection? I think both and allow the storyline to engage both. Protection from the engage.

You really have me worried here, on many levels :suspect:

What do the hardcore trekheads want> intrusion or protection? I think both and allow the storyline to engage both. Protection from the engage.

From what I was reading the other night, it seems the whole exploration/diplomacy styling of Trek is being put aside for more action.. which in some respects does hark back to the Original.. the phrase "We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill" from the song Star Trekkin' kinda sums it up :)

But now they've despatched the bad guys from the first film.. they're gonna go out exploring again

So, with all that said, are you happy or not?

I'll still watch any new offerings and will either like or dislike them for my own perverse reasons but on the whole still slightly unhappy. I still think the differences are too extreme and would of preferred to see a rather closer nod to the original series than this first film has offered.
It'll be interesting to see how things appear when the next film is done and am awaitng the computer to speak. One thing I did like was the reptilian crew member and a few other decidely alien looking characters within Star fleet as that makes it more 'realistic' for me after all it is federation of planets

I'll still watch any new offerings and will either like or dislike them for my own perverse reasons but on the whole still slightly unhappy. I still think the differences are too extreme and would of preferred to see a rather closer nod to the original series than this first film has offered.
It'll be interesting to see how things appear when the next film is done and am awaitng the computer to speak. One thing I did like was the reptilian crew member and a few other decidely alien looking characters within Star fleet as that makes it more 'realistic' for me after all it is federation of planets

I agree, the org of ST is excellent. Maybe a few berks joined the ST and did not 'fit in' as such. But, I reckon the ST will go from strength to strength. More peeps that jump aboard to the new ST the better, adds to the flavour, don't you think?

I agree, the org of ST is excellent. Maybe a few berks joined the ST and did not 'fit in' as such. But, I reckon the ST will go from strength to strength. More peeps that jump aboard to the new ST the better, adds to the flavour, don't you think?

I think you may have a valid point there, but let the film buffs of Sheffieldtalk.com e join in open discussions.

Z. Quinto (New Spock) cast some light on the writing of the first film and the problems it faced in a recent interview (http://www.startrek.com/article/quinto-calls-star-trek-sequel-bigger-and-bolder)..

“It's so exciting to be back. And the first time there was a writer's strike when we were shooting the movie, so nothing was able to be changed – the script was locked. And this time Bob (Orci) and Alex (Kurtzman) and Damon (Lindelof) and J.J. (Abrams) are really getting in and working on the story and sort of allowing it to expand and evolve – and bringing us into the process. So there's a real collaboration that wasn't even legally permitted the first time that I feel really grateful for. We're having a really great time.”

I think you may have a valid point there, but let the film buffs of Sheffieldtalk.com e join in open discussions.

I felt the same. :)