I have to say I have seen many live performances but leonas last light has to be the best vocal I have ever heard.Look on youtube;)
And diana needs to stop yodelling big time.

I have to say I have seen many live performances but leonas last light has to be the best vocal I have ever heard.Look on youtube;)
And diana needs to stop yodelling big time.


I agee, i was shouting at the tv (as one does as you get older) " there yer go Danni and Cheryl, thats what a good singer sounds like". Don't know how either of those two managed to get to judge other peoples singing ability,:huh: Cheryls seems a bit nicer though, can't stand Danni ,soooo false.:gag:

I agree on both points, liquid.

I've never been a big Leona fan but I watched last night gobsmacked - stunning stuff.

And don't get me started on Diana. Initially I thought she was quite a cute, quirky singer. Now I want to strangle her. I think last night's song (Coldplay's "Yellow") was chosen to highlight that godawful way she sings the "oo" sound - it's soooo annoying I want to smash the telly in whenever she does it.

Look at the stars - look how they shine for yeeeauuuuooughewewewew.
And all the things yeeeauuuuooughewewewew dooughewewewew.
And they were all Yell. Eough. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=etQhOo4JNII&feature=related)

Diana sounded like a donkey. Agreed Leona looked stunning but that song she sung was awful.

I`m not a leona fan but last night she showed what a lovely voice she has, good on her for making a proper career out of winning.

Why does diana sing like that?
She dosn`t talk like that, its as though she`s doing it on purpose, like forcing it, last night I couldn`t even understand half the words she was singing.

Have to agree...not a big Leona fan but the vocal was amazing, so controlled and easy. Diana...oh dear and eoghan (owen) singing George Michael??? Gimme a break!!!:suspect:

i have to agree with this, she has such a lovely voice and seems to have stayed the same and not let fame go to her head!!!

She ruined the good snow patrol song! Ah

The X Factor peaked way too soon when they discovered Leona Lewis. IMO they'll never find a singer as good as her.

Before the programme I played a few tracks off her first album including A Moment Like This. The vocal on this is simply stunning (enough to bring tears to my eyes; I find her voice incredibly emotional).

As good as some of the contestants are, they're not in the same league as Leona just as previous winners of the show aren't either.

The X Factor peaked way too soon when they discovered Leona Lewis. IMO they'll never find a singer as good as her.

Before the programme I played a few tracks off her first album including A Moment Like This. The vocal on this is simply stunning (enough to bring tears to my eyes; I find her voice incredibly emotional).

As good as some of the contestants are, they're not in the same league as Leona just as previous winners of the show aren't either.


Some whippersnappers aka JenC dont appreciate class music(apart from the Beatles) do they ?:hihi:

Some whippersnappers aka JenC dont appreciate class music(apart from the Beatles) do they ?:hihi:

And I respected both yours and Ousetunes musical views! What was I thinking:hihi::P

Leona was amazing. How many singers can pull off a live performance like that? She was 100% better than Mariah Carey last week and I have always been a Mariah fan. Every week when she was on X Factor she made me cry and she still does. She's amazing!

Leona was amazing. How many singers can pull off a live performance like that? She was 100% better than Mariah Carey last week and I have always been a Mariah fan. Every week when she was on X Factor she made me cry and she still does. She's amazing!

She's not amazing, she's yet another female vocalist who things talent equates to warbling up and down the scales in a horrible fashion.

Yes she is!:D

Yes she is!:D

Oh, well now you've stated your opinion for a second time you must obviously be correct.

Sorry for insinuating she's a warbling bint.

She's not amazing, she's yet another female vocalist who things talent equates to warbling up and down the scales in a horrible fashion.
I admit she is from that school if singing, but when it's done well it can be nice. There are a million singers who warble up and down, some odd vocal vibrato styling, but out of those only a handful have the 'X Factor'. Leona Lewis is the better side of this.

I hope beyond hope that Leona goes the proper diva route and outgrows her awful useless manager. She could be brilliant if she wasn't Simon Cowell's cash cow.

Oh, well now you've stated your opinion for a second time you must obviously be correct.

Yes I am :thumbsup:

Yes I am :thumbsup:

And obviously deaf as well.

Pardon, can you speak up please?

The X Factor peaked way too soon when they discovered Leona Lewis. IMO they'll never find a singer as good as her.

Before the programme I played a few tracks off her first album including A Moment Like This. The vocal on this is simply stunning (enough to bring tears to my eyes; I find her voice incredibly emotional).

As good as some of the contestants are, they're not in the same league as Leona just as previous winners of the show aren't either.


If Leona Lewis is that good, why doesn't she write her own songs?

Just another bog-standard karaoke warbler.

If Leona Lewis is that good, why doesn't she write her own songs?



Like Elvis or Cliff Richard?

What about someone like Diana Ross?

Obviously they're all pants because they don't (usually) write their own songs.

Which must mean, if you think about it, that the likes of Leiber and Stoller must be truly crap songwriters because they don't sing their own songs....,

Im happy to see im not the only one who thinks shes very over rated. I just dont get why shes made out to be this massive talent when clearly she isnt.

I think Leona has a fab voice ... and has proved her worth by cracking the USA ... and as other posters have stated, she seems to still be very modest, i wish her well (and have her new CD:))
I agree completely with the Diana comments, initially i liked her and thought she was 'quirky' ..... sadly that was short lived and she now annoys the hell out of me the way she doesnt pronounce words correctly, the way she goes 'high' on her 'O's' and whats with the hands dancing around her face all the time? not to mention her 'oh look at me .... im a hippy type chick whos barefoot' persona. AAARRRGGGHHHH

Aww, I think you're all being mean to poor little Diana. She had a sore throat, bless her. :gag:

I think Leona's amazing too. It's like she makes every note meaningful. I sky plused it and keep watching it!! I love Mariah too but have to say Leona was much better.
I also agree with the Diana stuff, with the start of each line I was praying for her to resist the whine at the end of it. Unfortunately she never did!

Aww, I think you're all being mean to poor little Diana. She had a sore throat, bless her. :gag:

She didn't sound that much different to me. It has a cute tone, but she overdoes it and ends up sounding ridiculous. Too gimmicky.

I just dont get why shes made out to be this massive talent when clearly she isnt.

Rubbish. She clearly is. I can't stand R&B and all that warbling Mariah Carey nonsense, but if you go for that sort of thing, she's clearly the best at it. She hits every note spot on, and has incredible power to her voice.

She sang Chasing Cars on Saturday, and there wasn't a hint of the usual R & B overly-gymnastic fills, and she was stunning.

Rubbish. She clearly is. I can't stand R&B and all that warbling Mariah Carey nonsense, but if you go for that sort of thing, she's clearly the best at it. She hits every note spot on, and has incredible power to her voice.

She sang Chasing Cars on Saturday, and there wasn't a hint of the usual R & B overly-gymnastic fills, and she was stunning.

Rubbish?
In your opinion im talking rubbish. Im my opinion im not. Also my opinion is shared by all of the people who were in my house at the time and pretty much all of my friends.

She didn't sound that much different to me. It has a cute tone, but she overdoes it and ends up sounding ridiculous. Too gimmicky.

This however is something i firlmly agree with you on.

If Leona Lewis is that good, why doesn't she write her own songs?

Just another bog-standard karaoke warbler.

To be honest, I doubt that her ability to write songs would improve her ability to warble and shout her way through them. On several occasions during her meteoric rise to the result pre-destined for her, she sung flat, miss-timed and just god damned awfully. New terms have developed to give credance to these performances like "powerful" used to be called shouting. Several better singers were dropped as they did not fit the bill in regards to looks, age, etc.
Do you honestly think that voting had any influence on the outcome of this result? They found a warbler and promoted her in such a way that she had to win.
"singers" like this seem to be in vogue at the moment and the sooner this strange style of singing is consigned to history the better.

To be honest, I doubt that her ability to write songs would improve her ability to warble and shout her way through them. On several occasions during her meteoric rise to the result pre-destined for her, she sung flat, miss-timed and just god damned awfully. New terms have developed to give credance to these performances like "powerful" used to be called shouting. Several better singers were dropped as they did not fit the bill in regards to looks, age, etc.
Do you honestly think that voting had any influence on the outcome of this result? They found a warbler and promoted her in such a way that she had to win.
"singers" like this seem to be in vogue at the moment and the sooner this strange style of singing is consigned to history the better.

Was Same Difference's CD any good then? Or did you buy it because you thought the blonde girly was a 'bit fit'?

What you obviously know about singing and vocal ability you could write on the back of a stamp (or maybe that's generous; on a flee's wing).

Was Same Difference's CD any good then? Or did you buy it because you thought the blonde girly was a 'bit fit'?

What you obviously know about singing and vocal ability you could write on the back of a stamp (or maybe that's generous; on a flee's wing).

Even then, you'd be wasting your time, just like you're wasting mine.

I do not posses that c.d. and if it is this type of "music" I never will.
Having been involved in the music industry for over 20 years my credentials are possibly somewhat more relevant than yours.
If this is wasting your time, why take the trouble to reply?
The last thing I would do would be to buy a c.d. because I like the cover picture. That is normall industry practice to make crap acts sellable. You may fall for that type of marketing, I do not.

So in effect, we're on the same side.

However, as a musician of a decent standard (who admittedly no longer plays in a live environment - but who's played guitar since 1983) - I personally feel that Leona Lewis is the genuine article. Like yourself, I don't subscribe to the school of posters, calendars and CD artwork by way of turning a non-entity singer into a *star*. Sadly, that's all part of the package nowadays.

I find myself, if you will, 'sticking up' for Leona Lewis because I believe the vast majority of her critics have never really listened to her and because it's easy to class someone from the X Factor as talentless because it is de rigour. Most other artists on the show are, yes, garbage! But, whether you like her style or not - each to their own - she is head and shoulders above every other singer or 'act' to appear on the show and certainly some who have already made careers out of singing.

Even Gary Barlow (putting aside one's feelings for Take That or his own sings, they've shifted a lot of units) told the judges that in Leona Lewis, they had a singer '50 times better than any other artist who has appeared on the X Factor.'

Your credentials (being involved in the music industry for 20 years) I will not question with the exception of calling Lewis a 'warbler' who was guaranteed the winning spot.

If Lewis and her style of singing are clearly not to your taste, then it would be interesting to know what is.

Having been involved in the music industry for over 20 years my credentials are possibly somewhat more relevant than yours.
That argument destroys itself. Simon Cowell says Leona is talented, and he has been a success in the music industry for over 20 years, so his credentials are more relevant than yours.

At the end of the day it is down to taste. I have always liked 'wailing birds' as my friend called them and they are not a new phenomenon. Look back to Aretha and her gospel, Maria Callas and masses of other female soul, opera and folk singers. Fair enough, say Leona is rubbish because she's not your cup of tea, but technically she can sing in tune, has a very wide range, able to sing and transfer between head and chest voice effortlessly, can sing in control quietly with minimal accompaniment, has great timing and is a natural harmoniser. The thing I like best about her is her tone, pure and silky and does lovely "warbly" bits without going ott. She's also beautiful and modest.

I do not posses that c.d. and if it is this type of "music" I never will.
Having been involved in the music industry for over 20 years my credentials are possibly somewhat more relevant than yours.
If this is wasting your time, why take the trouble to reply?
The last thing I would do would be to buy a c.d. because I like the cover picture. That is normall industry practice to make crap acts sellable. You may fall for that type of marketing, I do not.

I also think that no matter how much marketing an act gets they have a short shelf life unless they are good because it's about ears not eyes. Leona has sold very well in the US as well- the first UK female to debut there at number 1 for 20 years. I'd say that there were a lot of people and industry folk who think she's worth it!

So in effect, we're on the same side.

However, as a musician of a decent standard (who admittedly no longer plays in a live environment - but who's played guitar since 1983) - I personally feel that Leona Lewis is the genuine article. Like yourself, I don't subscribe to the school of posters, calendars and CD artwork by way of turning a non-entity singer into a *star*. Sadly, that's all part of the package nowadays.

I find myself, if you will, 'sticking up' for Leona Lewis because I believe the vast majority of her critics have never really listened to her and because it's easy to class someone from the X Factor as talentless because it is de rigour. Most other artists on the show are, yes, garbage! But, whether you like her style or not - each to their own - she is head and shoulders above every other singer or 'act' to appear on the show and certainly some who have already made careers out of singing.

Even Gary Barlow (putting aside one's feelings for Take That or his own sings, they've shifted a lot of units) told the judges that in Leona Lewis, they had a singer '50 times better than any other artist who has appeared on the X Factor.'

Your credentials (being involved in the music industry for 20 years) I will not question with the exception of calling Lewis a 'warbler' who was guaranteed the winning spot.

If Lewis and her style of singing are clearly not to your taste, then it would be interesting to know what is.

WOW A SENSIBLE POST ON THIS FORUM

My tastes are somewhat diverse but do not include this type of singing. To start listing my tastes on here gives open season to the less sensible people on here to go even further off topic.
I do accept your points though.

That argument destroys itself. Simon Cowell says Leona is talented, and he has been a success in the music industry for over 20 years, so his credentials are more relevant than yours.

To be fair, I have not said she has no talent. Also as Simon Cowell has a vested interest in her success I would not take his comments to seriously. Rather than listen to what he says try to understand what he means.
In my opinion he means she will sell lots of matierial. That I do not doubt.

So in effect, we're on the same side.

However, as a musician of a decent standard (who admittedly no longer plays in a live environment - but who's played guitar since 1983) - I personally feel that Leona Lewis is the genuine article. Like yourself, I don't subscribe to the school of posters, calendars and CD artwork by way of turning a non-entity singer into a *star*. Sadly, that's all part of the package nowadays.

I find myself, if you will, 'sticking up' for Leona Lewis because I believe the vast majority of her critics have never really listened to her and because it's easy to class someone from the X Factor as talentless because it is de rigour. Most other artists on the show are, yes, garbage! But, whether you like her style or not - each to their own - she is head and shoulders above every other singer or 'act' to appear on the show and certainly some who have already made careers out of singing.

Even Gary Barlow (putting aside one's feelings for Take That or his own sings, they've shifted a lot of units) told the judges that in Leona Lewis, they had a singer '50 times better than any other artist who has appeared on the X Factor.'

Your credentials (being involved in the music industry for 20 years) I will not question with the exception of calling Lewis a 'warbler' who was guaranteed the winning spot.

If Lewis and her style of singing are clearly not to your taste, then it would be interesting to know what is.

Well said.

I would say I had a genuine love of music and my tastes cover many different genres. Credit where credit is due and Leona can sing in tune and has an incredible range. I can't wait to see her live.

I think it's fairly obvious that Leona Lewis can sing. Of course this does not mean that she always turns a perfect vocal performance. (Who does? :rolleyes:)

Not everyone will enjoy her style of music or performance but this does not equate with her being lacking in talent.

What she does is not especially my cup of tea but she seems a decent girl and I wish her well - not that she needs it, as she's doing just fine. :thumbsup: