I remember he played for that other team, what's its name, Sheffield United, thats it. The last time I read anything about him, he was managing Skegness or Boston, but that was way back. Where did he go from there. I knew him when we were kids around Fowler St, little Hayward Rd etc; occasionaly he'd condescend to kick a ball around with the little Hayward Rd mob. He was always brilliant though, a very good boxer too. A lot of good footballers around there, Jack Linley, Tommy Gouldon, can't understand why they didn't make it professionly.

My late sister in law used to go to school with him.

Don't know much but the teachers apparantly said that all his brains were in his feet!!

I think Graham Shaw came from an era when football players had another job.He worked for T.G.Woofe , a painting and decorating Co in the 50s & 60s

He had a pub near Bramhall Lane and I think a fish stall in the market. Really nice bloke.

I remember Graham Shaw he played in the same team as me about 1966/67 lived up Foxhill I think. He played for Hillsbrough Park Rangers. Then there was the other one who played for another team in Sheffield strangley in the same position. He had a brother called Joe who was a towering centre half ( in his dreams).

Originally posted by desy
I remember Graham Shaw he played in the same team as me about 1966/67 lived up Foxhill I think. He played for Hillsbrough Park Rangers. Then there was the other one who played for another team in Sheffield strangley in the same position. He had a brother called Joe who was a towering centre half ( in his dreams).

i think his brother was called bernard:confused: he had a cafe in the castle market

Graham unfortunately died a few years ago. His brother is Bernard and both of them played for The Blades at left back. Both played for England. Graham made his debut against that other lot at Sheffield 6 on January 5th 1952 and of course The Blades won the game - 3.1. Not unusual against that opposition. Graham was 17 at the time.
Joe Shaw was NOT Graham's brother however they both featured in the very successful defence of the 1960s. Remember Alan Hodgkinson, Cec Coldwell, Graham Shaw, Brian "Rocko" Richardson, Joe Shaw and Gerry Summers.
Graham was a great guy.

Originally posted by Transportfan
Graham unfortunately died a few years ago. His brother is Bernard and both of them played for The Blades at left back. Both played for England. Graham made his debut against that other lot at Sheffield 6 on January 5th 1952 and of course The Blades won the game - 3.1. Not unusual against that opposition. Graham was 17 at the time.
Joe Shaw was NOT Graham's brother however they both featured in the very successful defence of the 1960s. Remember Alan Hodgkinson, Cec Coldwell, Graham Shaw, Brian "Rocko" Richardson, Joe Shaw and Gerry Summers.
Graham was a great guy.

What a great defence that was. I can't ever remember any of those guys having a bad game. Talk about consistency. Alan Hodginson "The cat of Bramall Lane" would have been almost first choice for England except for the fact that Ron Springett of Wednesday was so good. It was a travesty that Joe Shaw didn't get capped often for England too. Reason cited was that he was too small. Could do with a few small players like him today. As for Graham, what a sight that used to be when he burst upfield on the left side. Coldwell and Summers were steady players game after game and when Richardson tackled someone they knew that they had been tackled. Happy days

Thanks for all the feedback. Sad to hear that Graham has gone though, but then again, not forgotten. I do remember he had a brother, younger than him, a bit smaller and stockier, didn't have much to do with him though. Graham's father was really ambitious for him when we were kids, liked him to hang out with a better class of 'street' urchin, if you know what I mean. He didn't want him to kick a ball with any old riff-raff, it's obvious he knew his worth.
I was foolhardy enough to go in the ring with Graham, for a bit of a spar, up at the Pitsmoor Club. They had a boxing gym for a while many years ago. I should've known better. The Shaw family lived in Fowler St then, just up from a grocery store, I think it was called Blaydons, anybody old enough to remember that?

Graham and Bernard Shaw were brothers, Graham the older one and both played full back for United.

Joe Shaw, no relation, played round about the same time at centre half. Great defender but a bit on the short side or easy have been an England player.

He either had a cafe in the castle market or a fish & chip shop bang across but my money goes on him owning the c afe/sandwich bar

Graham managed our Sunday league side in the late seventies - the Abbey Juniors and then later the side played for the Sheldon.
Graham was good bloke and gave up a lot of his free time to manage the side. For me he manged the side well - he wanted to win the games we played but realised that we were just a bunch of kids and were there to enjoy the game. This team produced a number of lads that later went into professional football, to his credit.

Very sorry to hear that he passed away - he was a good man and an excellent footballer; played for both Sheffield teams and won England caps at a time when England had a very strong side.:clap:

Apologies its been a long day! My Shaw is Bernard not Graham - wrong era!:gag:

One player not named in that defensive line-up is Tommy Hoyland who wore the number four shirt before Richardson. Tommy is still around the Crookes area and I think he used to run the Sheldon pub? He is the father of Jamie who played for the Blades, Burnley and Manchester City.
Bernard Shaw was in the side when Len Badger was right-back, both those played in the England Youth team along with former Wednesday player John Sissons (then of WHU) and that at a guess was about 1961?

Originally posted by Texas
I remember he played for that other team, what's its name, Sheffield United, thats it. The last time I read anything about him, he was managing Skegness or Boston, but that was way back. Where did he go from there. I knew him when we were kids around Fowler St, little Hayward Rd etc; occasionaly he'd condescend to kick a ball around with the little Hayward Rd mob. He was always brilliant though, a very good boxer too. A lot of good footballers around there, Jack Linley, Tommy Gouldon, can't understand why they didn't make it professionly.

Graham passed away last year and although I am an Owl i remember him as a great competitor and as landlord of the Sportsman or was it the Cricketers?

he used to call at harris,s on aston street (butchers& cold stores) great bloke ,always dressed smart, and always gave you a tip

I was born on Fowler Street in 1959 a couple of years before the death knoll of the whole area where all my family lived.
I did not know the Shaw Bros as they where before my time but I'm sure my parents, Grand parents and relatives did.
Unfortunately none of them are no longer around to ask.
Interesting subject though.

Originally posted by chuffinel
What a great defence that was. I can't ever remember any of those guys having a bad game. Talk about consistency. Alan Hodginson "The cat of Bramall Lane" would have been almost first choice for England except for the fact that Ron Springett of Wednesday was so good. It was a travesty that Joe Shaw didn't get capped often for England too. Reason cited was that he was too small. Could do with a few small players like him today. As for Graham, what a sight that used to be when he burst upfield on the left side. Coldwell and Summers were steady players game after game and when Richardson tackled someone they knew that they had been tackled. Happy days

I am an Owl and Ron Springett was my hero. He was the best keeper in the land for 4 years until the humiliating defeat against France in 1963 for which he carried the blame.

Alan Hodgkinson, scourge of the Owls, was without a doubt Englands number two throughout the Springett years. He and Ron were thge best of friends and I admired this great keeper very much.

Two nice guys. Hodgy is still Scotland's goalkeeping coach and has not changed at all. Ron, unfortunately, has not been too good in recent years with heart problems. I still regard his signing as being one of the best Wednesday has ever made. You'll probably know he lived in London even when he played at Hillsborough. When the Owls played in the Birmingham area I used to join him in the cafeteria bar on Snow Hill station and have a chat, likewise at Preston from a Burnley or Blackburn match. One of Ron's daughters works at QPR.

I remember both Shaws,I talked to graham on the coach one saturday on our way to play Huddersfield,great player and a credit to the club. He lived next door to my sister on Old Park Road around 1980.

Graham was brought up in Southey Green, and not surprisingly, a Wednesdayite! He made his debut at Hillsborough at the age of 17 for United in a 'derby' match in 1952 when he stood in for Albert Cox at the 'eleventh' hour. Shaw conceded a penalty in this game but Burgin saved it and the Blades won 3-1. Dooley scored for Wednesday.

Actually Graham and his brother were born in Fowler Street. The family lived in the yard just above Blaydons grocers shop, near Marshall Street.

About 10 years ago when Graham had The Sportsman near the United ground, a gang of us used to call in late on a Friday afternoon for 2 or 3 hours and I always found him to be an absolutely top bloke. At that time, he was living in a council maisonette at the top of Gervase Road at Low Edges.

I was really sorry to learn of his death.

R.I.P. GRAHAM

Two nice guys. Hodgy is still Scotland's goalkeeping coach and has not changed at all. Ron, unfortunately, has not been too good in recent years with heart problems. I still regard his signing as being one of the best Wednesday has ever made. You'll probably know he lived in London even when he played at Hillsborough. When the Owls played in the Birmingham area I used to join him in the cafeteria bar on Snow Hill station and have a chat, likewise at Preston from a Burnley or Blackburn match. One of Ron's daughters works at QPR.

I'm so sorry to hear that Ron's not in the best of health. I have been busy writing a book on the Owls for the past three years and he receives a glowing testimony within it's pages.

I do hope top complete it before the Wednesday heros of the late 50s and early sixties begin to pass into legend as have many of their era.

I'm so sorry to hear that Ron's not in the best of health. I have been busy writing a book on the Owls for the past three years and he receives a glowing testimony within it's pages.

I do hope to complete it before the Wednesday heroes of the late 50s and early sixties begin to pass into legend as have many of their era.

I make no apologies for saying that I think Ron Springett at £9,000 has been one of the best ever buys Sheffield Wednesday have made in my lifetime. I have never understood why goalkeepers cost less than players in other positions because history has usually told that a good goalkeeper goes a long way to a successful team.
His signing was a long time ago but compared to £70000 splashed out on Ritchie and £100,000 spent on Tommy Craig plus (millions wasted on more contemporary signings) Ron's purchase was a snip, given his major contribution to both Wednesday and England.
I have heard that his illness is heart-related, not able to confirm but have reliable contacts and fond memories of him both as a player and person. When other London clubs travelled to play in Sheffield, Ron was quite welcome to travel south with them after the game, and did!
With your book in mind, I heard sometime ago that Albert Quixall isn't in the best of health in Manchester. I also know that both Joe Shaw (Utd) and Charlie Williams (Doncaster) - to be brief- are very ill.

With reference to Albert Quixall - does anyone know what has happened to him? I went to his house in Manchester a couple of years ago to interview him, but when I tried to make contact with him recently, my letter came back 'return to sender' and his phone number was no longer in use.

I found Albert and his wife to be very nice people and would be interested to hear what has happened to them.

I remember Graham Shaw he played in the same team as me about 1966/67 lived up Foxhill I think. He played for Hillsbrough Park Rangers. Then there was the other one who played for another team in Sheffield strangley in the same position. He had a brother called Joe who was a towering centre half ( in his dreams).
Joe was not related to Graham but Bernard was his younger brother, I played against Bernard a few times, and Uniteds other full back of the time, Len Badger.
We once played against a United youth team, way out of our class, and lost 21-0. Len scored 19 goals.

I make no apologies for saying that I think Ron Springett at £9,000 has been one of the best ever buys Sheffield Wednesday have made in my lifetime. I have never understood why goalkeepers cost less than players in other positions because history has usually told that a good goalkeeper goes a long way to a successful team.
His signing was a long time ago but compared to £70000 splashed out on Ritchie and £100,000 spent on Tommy Craig plus (millions wasted on more contemporary signings) Ron's purchase was a snip, given his major contribution to both Wednesday and England.
I have heard that his illness is heart-related, not able to confirm but have reliable contacts and fond memories of him both as a player and person. When other London clubs travelled to play in Sheffield, Ron was quite welcome to travel south with them after the game, and did!
With your book in mind, I heard sometime ago that Albert Quixall isn't in the best of health in Manchester. I also know that both Joe Shaw (Utd) and Charlie Williams (Doncaster) - to be brief- are very ill.
Is that the Charlie Williams who became a comedian?

Yes, a truly funny man. His book is well worth a read. Excellent how he combated racism with his quick repartee. Played for Doncaster Rovers and now lives in Barnsley but is very poorly.

Graham Shaw was an England International Left back and played for Sheffield United.

He was landlord of the Sportsman pub on Denby Street just off Bramall Lane.

He retired from there a few years ago and past away nearly 2 years ago.

A superb bloke and a pleasure to know him.

My sister married his son Richard.

RIP

didnt graham have a chippy at southey whats now called norwood fish bar and his brother had a cafe in the castle market :?:

Hi, not logged on for a long time and just found this thread. I used to work in the development shop round about 1967 and am so please to read that Hodgy is still alive and well, what a nice guy. It was also the days when Bernard Shaw and Len Badger were playing somewhere at the back of the field (memory fades and I am a girly afterall). Also Ken Mallender somewhere near the back. Up front we had Tony Currie, Colin Addison, Alan woodward, Mick Hill, David Monks and somewhere or other there was Willie Carlin. One of my best mates at the time was Paddy Buckley, bought from Wolves but sadly played few games due to injury. Off pitch he and Tony were a double act and we were all good mates...good days they were.

A name not on your list but I guess you remember him, Ted Hemsley, who is still fit and well and busying himself. Ted is one of the rare breed of former professional cricketers (Worcestershire) who also played professional football, Shrewsbury and Sheffield United. I prefer to talk to him about cricket!