As an 'outsider ' I suppose that I have my own opinion of your local Police service. But what do you in Sheffield think ?

I know you've had your particular problems re the police, but have to say - on the whole I have found them to be pretty good - once they get a report.

Quite a while ago now, I was walking though the underpass between Moorfoot and Eccleshall road, a youngish guy flashed his privates at me. As soon as I got to a phone i called the police - they refused to take it down as a crime as they said the person would be long gone so no point.

Then about two days later a person matching the description of the bloke flashed at two young girls near a local school and the police were appealing for information. At the time i didn't call because I expected the police to call me, as i'd already reported a crime by the person fitting the same description - but no call from the police. Now I know this is not the responsibility of the police on the beat, more for the call handlers - but it made me so mad because from the description it was the same man - so why didn't they log it as a call when I phoned?

Other than that, they have always been really helpfull and I will do everything I can to support them.

Although I love Sheffield as a whole. Ive had nothing but bad experience with the bobbies.

From being pulled over in my car 3-4 times a week for "routine checks"...to actually being assaulted by a copper after a night out one night while the other copper just watched. :(

What? We've got a police force? When did this happen?

What's going to happen to all those motorists? Who's looking after them now?

we recently got a phone call with a threat on my partners life, the police said they would come out that night but they didnt arrive until the next day at lunchtime.

then recently i saw a lad stealing the lead off a neighbours roof, they came straight away but the neighbour isnt even bothered, so i wont bother next time.

Originally posted by Ousetunes
What? We've got a police force? When did this happen?

What's going to happen to all those motorists? Who's looking after them now?

Don't worry about it, - the police are pretty lenient with motorists in South Yorks.

In RTAs invovling personal injuries, drivers in S Yorks are just half as likely to be breathalized as drivers in Lincs and Derbyshire. :rolleyes:

I'm very happy of the police in my area, true, there's a small station daan o' road, but they patrol the whole area, walking up Valley Road, Rushdale Road, Upper Valley Road, Cross Park Road and back daan Meersbrook Paark Road to' station.

I spose they wouldn't be walking up streets if there were no station, but there is, so I'm happy. Also important to say that we don't have them tw4tty CSOs, but actual proper policemen.

as a house owner who has had a few robberies and car break ins
I have only good words for the police.

generally they had a crap job and deal with alot of scummy people

I am a nurse so I should know!!!

i think theyre pretty pap,seen fights on west street and theyve just drove straight past,and havnt managed to catch me yet

I think theyre pretty good to be honest.


Very liberal.

I know that they're generally not bothered about free partys and th likes, which is rare for a police force.

Don't like sheffield CID though, my sister was attacked last year and they made out that she was lying :|

Bad, they prefer to give parking fines to innocent people rather than catching criminals ... pathetic !!

I think they are pretty useless, nuff said.

I'm dont think they're too bad here. (dont want to say they're good incase I get pulled over on the way home! :heyhey: ) I grew up in Glasgow and they were a proper pain in the arse. I once got pulled over 4 nights in a row on my way to work on nightshift, by the same copper!

While in Sheffield i've had the coppers come round a few times a few years ago when we all lived in a student type house (wasnt actually a student) when we made loads of noise with parties, smoking naughty ciggarettes, and messing about with bb guns in the garden. Every time they came round they were very reasonable.

Called them when I saw someone breaking into a neighbours car and they were round pretty sharpish, had to do a producer after getting pulled over on the M62, went to Hillsborough police station and that was very quick and painless.

So all in all, full marks:thumbsup: (unless of course I get pulled over soon:suspect: )

I can't understand all this 'getting pulled over' business :loopy:

What criteria do they use? I don't drive around in Sheffield quite as much these days but I have never been pulled over :suspect:

Must be because i'm a girly and drive a boring car???

Originally posted by lou070879
Bad, they prefer to give parking fines to innocent people rather than catching criminals ... pathetic !! I doubt it, Police's is isn't Street Force, it's been that way for a while now. CC is now in charge of the streets and parking and tickets

I think it all comes down to money, the more money spent the better police force we would have, i cant stand it when people complain about parking tickets, speed cameras, the law is the law. i have delt with the police a few times with different things and have always been delt with ok, there is one law for the police to work to but 10 for everyone else, i think its unfair to mock the police they do a underpaid job, would you get you face kicked in on a saturday night, spat at, swore at?? give credit where its due! For those people that say they should be out there getting the bad guys, and not handing out speeding tickets, fines for using your mobile while driving etc, i say shut up fool, cos if you didnt do it they would be out getting the bad guys instead of wasting time on you!:rant:
:thumbsup: job well done!

Originally posted by crowefan
as a house owner who has had a few robberies and car break ins
I have only good words for the police.

generally they had a crap job and deal with alot of scummy people

I am a nurse so I should know!!!


here here!

always had good dealings with them..........once they get to know you, they are a nice bunch!

:clap:

Originally posted by Hels
I can't understand all this 'getting pulled over' business :loopy:

What criteria do they use? I don't drive around in Sheffield quite as much these days but I have never been pulled over :suspect:

Must be because i'm a girly and drive a boring car???

iam a girlie and drive a borin car but bin pulled over twice in a matter of weeks (ave they got nothing better to do )give me a break plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :rolleyes:

actually whilst I hate the police I think that they have been pretty good lately....

My son who was 16yrs old at the time, was beat up by six 18yr olds. I phoned the police and the copper on the other end of the phone said "I'm sorry but I don't know what you are actually reporting?". I explaned that I thought it was illegal to go around beating people up, He said it was, but as he wasn't in hospital nothing could be done.
I now have a new name for the police..... "Ornament".:mad:

Hey.....don't knock our police force........they are brilliant! We had some of those gi-normous bomb thingy's being set off into a main road......narrowly missing killing my Daughter........and when the phone was eventually answered long after the event we were told that it would be noted!!
YET..........the Mother of my Son's Son........my Grandson.... reported my Son for harrassment because he dared complain to her that she wasn't at home when she had said he could visit his Son!!!! By God.........did the boys in blue move fast then!!! Saturday night........10.30pm!!!!!!!........I had them knocking on MY door!! OK.......it was three days after the reported non-event........they must have been short of criminals to pester that day! BUT.........they scared me half to death! There were two of them and I thought they were here to report a death or something!!! They insisted on coming into my house and demanding an address where they could find my Son!! I gave them his home address and phone number. They rang him the following day to make an appointment to visit him!!!! Can you believe that??? A 10.30pm visit to ME, three days after the initial report! They duly visited him and told him that a complaint had been made but that he was not to worry because it was not held on record! It could not be produced in a court as evidence......they just had to do this because of the complaint.......and he was not allowed to utter a single word in his defense!! He was told to sign something.......he doesn't know what but he signed it anyhow!
This was a few weeks ago and I am still angry that my house......my space... was invaded by our wonderful Police force making demands of me when I hadn't done anything wrong! They even asked to come into my house..........and like a fool I let them! I showed them into my lounge and gestured to take a seat on my sofa. My lappy was on a little table in front of my armchair........just like it is now. The male policeman made a point of going to my lappy to view what was showing on my screen!! I get very very angry just thinking about it now! Our lounge is quite large.........and he had to take a different track from the door to the sofa in order to view my lappy! He had no right to do that.......but I felt physically submissive to these people invading my house at that time of night........I was bloody scared by them!
So as to the original question........good or bad........good for the soft targets where there are paper results......regardless as to whether it is right or wrong. As for the "moving" criminals.............don't hold your breath!

Originally posted by lou070879
Bad, they prefer to give parking fines to innocent people rather than catching criminals ... pathetic !!

Do you really think that when the police had jurisdiction over parking they would assign 10 officers on parking duty when 1 would do? Doesn't work like that. The Government would have something to say about that, guaranteed. These things are constantly monitored. Same goes for speed cameras- anyone who asks why the police aren't out catching criminals has a naive idea of how the police operate.

Originally posted by madowl
I think it all comes down to money, the more money spent the better police force we would have, i cant stand it when people complain about parking tickets, speed cameras, the law is the law. i have delt with the police a few times with different things and have always been delt with ok, there is one law for the police to work to but 10 for everyone else, i think its unfair to mock the police they do a underpaid job, would you get you face kicked in on a saturday night, spat at, swore at?? give credit where its due! For those people that say they should be out there getting the bad guys, and not handing out speeding tickets, fines for using your mobile while driving etc, i say shut up fool, cos if you didnt do it they would be out getting the bad guys instead of wasting time on you!:rant:
:thumbsup: job well done!

did you say one law for us and another for them?

Police double standards (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/27/nspeed27.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/05/27/ixhome.html)
Fifty-nine police cars were caught speeding on one county's roads last year - but not a single driver was prosecuted.

Taken from todays telegraph!

I reported something on a sat night on west street. The van turned up very quickly, but then the officer very quickly basically accused me of either lying and making it up or being so drunk that i didn't know what was happening. Neither of which were true.
They did follow up the complaint though, which I didn't think they'd do. I hope the sergeant got a shock when she found out that i'd taken her badge number and reported her.

Its my opinion that people who think the police are t*ats are generally t*ats themselves!

I've had my dealings in the past (mainly after many drinks, a temporary STOP sign springs to mind) and generally they give you all the chances and more...

If you dont act an arsehole then they dont bother you, act an arsehole and they will stop you, resulting in you thinking that they are arseholes for stopping you acting an arsehole!

Seems this thread has disappeared from the board.

Even though I have my own opinion of Sheff police, I never made that known.



Apart from the low standards of the Police in my late Brothers case. Sheff Police seem to be well below par.


Only this week the internal police are looking at the local police Federation board.

A few months ago the local police left the secret movements of the, at the time, David Blunketts movements.

I have relatives in Liverpool, and I am ex- security /British Army from the 1970's.


The South Yorkshire Police are ****, in any part of Lancashire.

My thread was to allow local Sheff people to voice their opinion of the local Police force. Is that not right ?

The police have not been going for more than 200 years.

It is still new.

But THEY need our allowance. Policing is by acceptance.


p.s. I would not like anyone to suffer as my family have done.

To put it another way.

I am cogniscent of the ways the British Army , after dealing with crowds, would have dealt with the Hilborough, Sheff Weds, problems.

The local Police were crap.


I am amazed that someone has declared my posts will go down the memory hole.

But hey, all the media do that in the UK.

The only 'good thing' is that if banned, we know a SHEFF STAR reporter.

Your thread has not gone, It's HERE (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41905&highlight=police)

Originally posted by petebarker
*snip*The local Police were crap.
*snip*I am amazed that someone has declared my posts will go down the memory hole.
*snip*But hey, all the media do that in the UK.
*snip*The only 'good thing' is that if banned, we know a SHEFF STAR reporter.

I think you HAVE made your opinion of the SYP perfectly plain on a number of occasions on your previous thread and again on this one.

No-one has declared anything about your posts going anywhere - you could always try doing a search before you jump to unwarranted conclusions about things.

This Forum is NOT "the media". AFAIK The Sheffield Forum is a private concern set up for the people of the City and other interested parties to use for information and entertainment.

So you know a Sheffield Star reporter if you're banned from here? What does that mean? and why would you be banned from the Forum?

I'm sure everyone here has every sympathy with your family for what happened to your brother. But think before you post and please don't impute underhand motives to people running this Forum.

People are still posting on your original thread anyway ...

MODS? do we need a merge here?

Mod:

Merged.

South Yorkshire Police motto - 'Justice with Courage'

'Injustice with Cowardice' - more like! HA HA HA HA LMFAO

Go chase some real criminals instead of us soft targets that are respectable (or are we stupiud enough) to pay our fines.

I think they do a decent job but are partly affected by red tape and the general form filling. The whole process needs looking at.

I think they do cracking jobs when investigating big crime but are poor (not necessarily their fault) when tackling other crimes such as assualt, break ins, vandalism. Unless you catch the person yourself they prefer to just give you a report number as they know it's unlikely they'll get anyone.

As for the car owners i do feel we are easy targets and before people moan again that we should stick to the limit, the fact is 37MPH in a 30 zone at 5AM in the morning is a fine, points and spiralling insurance costs. Cause offence, vandalism, assault and scare people into not leaving their homes, they face nothing more than a slap on the wrist. I want the punishment to fit the crime and it doesn't

I think the policing in Sheffield is terrible and seems to be getting worse not better :(

Originally posted by burny
I think the policing in Sheffield is terrible and seems to be getting worse not better :(

Crime stats (from both police recorded crime figures, and from the British Crime Survey) would suggest otherwise.

Sheffield compares favourably to other cities and the crime rate (with some methodological exceptions) is falling.

Anecdotal evidence of bad service does not indicate a terrible police service in the city.

Speeding fines take up very little police time. The effort involved is in the administration which takes up the time of civilians- not anybody who is trained to be out on the streets catching 'real criminals'.

Originally posted by Herbaliser
Crime stats (from both police recorded crime figures, and from the British Crime Survey) would suggest otherwise.

Sheffield compares favourably to other cities and the crime rate (with some methodological exceptions) is falling.

Anecdotal evidence of bad service does not indicate a terrible police service in the city.

Speeding fines take up very little police time. The effort involved is in the administration which takes up the time of civilians- not anybody who is trained to be out on the streets catching 'real criminals'.

policing isn't just about reducing crime (although that's a big part of it). Staying "on side" with the general populace is required, and PR is a big part of the job.

the police are a joke my daughter and her friend were followed by a man and flashed at last november i am still waiting for them to come and take a statement,we have alot of trouble with bikes etc and the police refuse to come out but if you want a copper go along to the asda at night and it is full of them just try it and see

Originally posted by Cyclone
policing isn't just about reducing crime (although that's a big part of it). Staying "on side" with the general populace is required, and PR is a big part of the job.

Fair point. There is a mismatch at the moment between how much crime has fallen recently and the public fear of/ perception of crime.
PR is perhaps something SYP need to look at. It's about time of year when 'Serving You' (SYP produced newsletter) is published. Maybe that'll go someway to resolving the perception gap.

SOUTH YORKSHIRE POLICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FANTASTIC AT BOOKING CAR OWNERS DOING 35mph..
CRAP AT EVERYTHING ELSE.......................

Obviously to say either/or would be a generalisation and it is always down to personal experience anyway. There are good and bad police officers in the same way there are good and bad members of the public. MY personal experience of police (in Sheffield) hasn't been the greatest as they tend to act a little like bouncers in that they wield power and tend to want to let you know about it, especially if they feel they're being belittled.

I currently live in London and my experience down here has been completely different. I have actually been stopped and searched many more times than I ever did in Sheffield, but the manner in which they approach the situation is far more civilised and the response from joe public tends to be a positive one as a result. I feel that there is a greater emphasis on people 'management' and community relations with the MET which is noticeable in their approach to the job and works to their advantage in making people less hostile towards them.

Originally posted by andymay
SOUTH YORKSHIRE POLICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FANTASTIC AT BOOKING CAR OWNERS DOING 35mph..
CRAP AT EVERYTHING ELSE.......................

Doing 35 (in a 30 zone I assume you mean), then it's no bad thing that the police are fantastic at booking offenders.

Crap at everything else? Check the crime figures...

i live on the wybourn est, have done for years, we never and i mean never see a police man on foot, we have street rangers that patrol the area to observe youth problems, untaxed vehicles etc, but not after 6:00pm ?what a waste of time and resources, bring in charles bronson and/or clint eastwood, i beleive the street thugs (hoodies:confused: )may well listen:rant:

It seems like everyone is complaining about the lack of police presence wherever and when ever they are needed.
I just wonder if people realise that only last week most officers in Sheffield and even from the Met were employed controlling the brainless idiots who tried to disrupt an otherwise well organised protest over the G8 meeting

Bad, they prefer to give parking fines to innocent people rather than catching criminals ... pathetic !!

You're not innocent if you're breaking the law - try parking legally, or keeping within the speed limit - it's not rocket science.

If you obey the law, the police have more time to deal with other offences instead of spending time on you.

Parking enforcement is run by the City Council, and a great job they're doing too - people really used to take the mick when the police were running it, because they were under resourced and unable to plough the revenue back into operating costs.

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In terms of the original subject, my contact with the police, both at work (common) and outside (thankfully rare) has impressed me - they do a difficult job and need our support.

Originally posted by Hels
I know you've had your particular problems re the police, but have to say - on the whole I have found them to be pretty good - once they get a report.

Quite a while ago now, I was walking though the underpass between Moorfoot and Eccleshall road, a youngish guy flashed his privates at me. As soon as I got to a phone i called the police - they refused to take it down as a crime as they said the person would be long gone so no point.

Then about two days later a person matching the description of the bloke flashed at two young girls near a local school and the police were appealing for information. At the time i didn't call because I expected the police to call me, as i'd already reported a crime by the person fitting the same description - but no call from the police. Now I know this is not the responsibility of the police on the beat, more for the call handlers - but it made me so mad because from the description it was the same man - so why didn't they log it as a call when I phoned?

Other than that, they have always been really helpfull and I will do everything I can to support them.

Yeah. All my gripes are with their civilian call center :rant:
The police are fine. I'd hate to try and do their job with the constraints they have to prevent them from removing crime from our streets :mad:

Originally posted by MrPaul
Its my opinion that people who think the police are t*ats are generally t*ats themselves!

Hmmmm.

I was (a few years ago) burgled.

The Police didn't even bother finger printing the items found outside my property!

They did manage to retrieve a car of mine that was stolen though.

Then again, they did nothing when someone else tried to steal (and failed) another of my cars>



As uou can guess, I have mixed feeling when it comes to the Police. However, what is really annoying me are the recent reports of Police officers breaking the law (that they are supposed to uphold) and getting away with it!