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Anyone here into or train/practice martial arts (karate, kung fu, jujitsu, kendo, judo, aikedo, tieboxing, tiekwondo etc). To me boxing counts.
I train in Karate and have trained for round about 4 years and am interested in maybe sharing/listerning to views and so forth obout different styles. My style is shotokan but I am interested in learning the history of other styles of karate and other martial arts.
Dear curvta 1
Have you tried or heard of the karate style Goju-Ryu? Apparently this is one of the original forms of karate from Okinawa, the birthplace of Karate
I'm told. Developed from Kung -Fu ,I believe. Ther's a very good club on
Derbyshire Lane, Norton, that might be worth a visit.
Hi Crimbo.
I have heard of the gojo ryu and I'm not sure whether it was the original style however I do know that Shotokan is a close relation to the original style founded in Okinawa.
I think the history of martial arts, especially Karate is very interesting.
I heard a story one (whether it is true I don't know).
I master of a style possibly kung fu was ship wrecked on the island of Okinawa where he began to teach his knowlege. One of his students on Okinawa created his own style after years of training under this master. The knew stlye was tought to the creators sons who then later founded their own styles one of which included Shotokan.
I have heard many theories, most of which suggest the chinese martial art was the founding style to which karate is based.
Originally posted by "curtva1"
Hi Crimbo.
I have heard of the gojo ryu and I'm not sure whether it was the original style however I do know that Shotokan is a close relation to the original style founded in Okinawa.
I think the history of martial arts, especially Karate is very interesting.
I heard a story one (whether it is true I don't know).
I master of a style possibly kung fu was ship wrecked on the island of Okinawa where he began to teach his knowlege. One of his students on Okinawa created his own style after years of training under this master. The knew stlye was tought to the creators sons who then later founded their own styles one of which included Shotokan.
I have heard many theories, most of which suggest the chinese martial art was the founding style to which karate is based.
Dear curvta1
can't say as I've heard of that story, a good book to get(library?) is The
History Of Karate by Morio Higaonna. Karate was originally based on Kung-fu that's true, and was imported into Okinawa from China by a native Okinawan, Kanryo Higaonna, around the middle of the 19th century, he adapted kung-fu with the fighting art of Okinawa to-de. There then grew over the years 3 distinct styles Naha-te, Shuri-te and Tomari-te,(te means hand,as I'm sure you know) each taking their names from different districts in Okinawa. Shotokan, got its name from its founder Ginchin Funokoshi, the "father" of Karate, an Okinawan, who was a poet and used the "pen name" Shoto. He went to mainland Japan to promote karate there and when he opened his dojo he called it Shotokan,Shoto's Club.Goju ryu is from the original Naha-te as practiced byKanryo Higaonna
This description is very, very brief as you can appreciate, the history of karate has much more to offer, I often think it would make a knockout, (no pun intended) film. If I can help you in any way, please don't hesitate to ask
Tony Ruscoe 18-03-2003, 10:28 Originally posted by "curtva1"
Hi Crimbo.
I heard a story one (whether it is true I don't know).
I master of a style possibly kung fu was ship wrecked on the island of Okinawa where he began to teach his knowlege. One of his students on Okinawa created his own style after years of training under this master. The knew stlye was tought to the creators sons who then later founded their own styles one of which included Shotokan.
i heard that story - it was in my "Karate Kid" annual when i was younger! it's probably true though.
i used to do shotokan karate back in the late 80s / early 90s. got my 1st dan when i was 10 8) i stopped a few months later though cos i didn't have the time to train 3 times a week and do my homework!
i wish i never stopped doing it now tho :?
Originally posted by "Tony Ruscoe"
Hi Crimbo.
I heard a story one (whether it is true I don't know).
I master of a style possibly kung fu was ship wrecked on the island of Okinawa where he began to teach his knowlege. One of his students on Okinawa created his own style after years of training under this master. The knew stlye was tought to the creators sons who then later founded their own styles one of which included Shotokan.
i heard that story - it was in my "Karate Kid" annual when i was younger! it's probably true though.
i used to do shotokan karate back in the late 80s / early 90s. got my 1st dan when i was 10 8) i stopped a few months later though cos i didn't have the time to train 3 times a week and do my homework!
i wish i never stopped doing it now tho :?
Hi Tony
why don't you take karate up again and try the Goju ryu club at Norton?
Tony Ruscoe 19-03-2003, 09:47 Originally posted by "crimbo"
Hi Tony
why don't you take karate up again and try the Goju ryu club at Norton?
mmm... it's a bit of a vicious circle:
i want to do karate again to get fit.
but... i want to get fit again so i can do karate.
what should come first? fitness or karate?
if i went to a karate session now i'd probably kill myself doing the warm up :D
You could just go and take it easy.
It would be like starting from scratch fitness wise but you will soon get fit as you know the routine.
Last year I missed a quite few sessions. I went back and the first session alwost killed me. 4 or 5 sessions later I was back into it.
I stopped again for for a bit due to work and said to my self get fit then go back. A month later and I am no fitter and still don't go. So I am going to just go next week.
Originally posted by "Tony Ruscoe"
Hi Tony
why don't you take karate up again and try the Goju ryu club at Norton?
mmm... it's a bit of a vicious circle:
i want to do karate again to get fit.
but... i want to get fit again so i can do karate.
what should come first? fitness or karate?
if i went to a karate session now i'd probably kill myself doing the warm up :D
Karate, as curvtal1 quite rightly says, doing it will make you fit , just take it in small steps(so to speak), but, as I'm sure you know, you need to take any exercise on a regular basis otherwise it's a waste of time for all concerned.The hardest part, I would imagine, is getting off ones bum to actually do it. There's always an excellent reason for doin' nowt. Go on lad!have a go!
Originally posted by "Tony Ruscoe"
Hi Tony
why don't you take karate up again and try the Goju ryu club at Norton?
mmm... it's a bit of a vicious circle:
i want to do karate again to get fit.
but... i want to get fit again so i can do karate.
what should come first? fitness or karate?
if i went to a karate session now i'd probably kill myself doing the warm up :D
This is right. You will get fitter doing the Karate while learning it at the same time. Nobody epects you to be super fit. It will come, give it time.
hi i read ur note saying that the karate dojo on derbyshire lane was very good, well i attend that class and i have to say that it IS very good as i have been goign on and off for about 4 years, (when i have been able to) so i would recommend it! :D mind you now that i have said that you all probably go to the dojo already so never mind!
I teach Okinawan Goju Ryu in Sheffield City Centre, for some interesting information on the style visit www.hallamdojo.co.uk and www.otgka.co.uk
Or pop in and watch a session in action.
andyb
DaBouncer 12-05-2003, 12:22 Originally posted by "curtva1"
Anyone here into or train/practice martial arts (karate, kung fu, jujitsu, kendo, judo, aikedo, tieboxing, tiekwondo etc). To me boxing counts.
I train in Karate and have trained for round about 4 years and am interested in maybe sharing/listerning to views and so forth obout different styles. My style is shotokan but I am interested in learning the history of other styles of karate and other martial arts.
I love martial arts and have practiced various styles (although Karate isn't one of them).
I have recently been attending a Capoeira Class in Rotherham and the teacher is a bonifidi Brazilian Master.
You dont need to be physically fit to attend this course, but it would help.
You can take it easy to begin, but you will soon adapt to the harsh training schedule and the constant moving which is what the art is all about.
You can have a look at the site here: Capoeira (http://www.polichinelocircus.co.uk/Capoeirax.htm).
I have also studied:
Taekwondo
Thai Boxing
Ju-Jitsu &
Aikdo
The only art I have trained to a high belt level is Ju-Jitsu, but I frequently practice as many as possible to vary my style. Grades don't bother me anymore. :D :D :D [/list]
Originally posted by "DaBouncer"
The only art I have trained to a high belt level is Ju-Jitsu, but I frequently practice as many as possible to vary my style.
I'm thinking of taking up ju-jitsu as soon as I've got some more basic fitness back. Would you still choose ju-jitsu now that you've experienced some other martial arts?
I like the idea of using an assailants force against them, as opposed to just punching and kicking them, and have heard that it's one of the best arts for use in a real situation, eg if you're attacked in the street.
Any advice gratefully received.
DaBouncer 12-05-2003, 12:48 Originally posted by "Mike"
The only art I have trained to a high belt level is Ju-Jitsu, but I frequently practice as many as possible to vary my style.
I'm thinking of taking up ju-jitsu as soon as I've got some more basic fitness back. Would you still choose ju-jitsu now that you've experienced some other martial arts?
I like the idea of using an assailants force against them, as opposed to just punching and kicking them, and have heard that it's one of the best arts for use in a real situation, eg if you're attacked in the street.
Any advice gratefully received.
I find that Aikdo is a better adapted version of Ju-Jitsu and flows more easily.
I love ju-jitsu, but it has too many fixed positions, where as Aikido (made popular by Steven Seagal) is much more fluid like and has greater balance. A great martial art.
I would recommend a direct aggression martial art as an add-on to Aikido tho.. i.e. Thai Boxing!
With these two VERY different styles, you're bound to have a more street wise self defence capability!
Cheers for that - the other advantage of Ju-Jitsu is that I can do classes at my Gym for free, but will definitely check out Aikido too.
Not sure if my old bones would stand up to Thai Boxing !
steelblade 12-05-2003, 13:26 Sorry to hijack the thread but I really need some advice.
My little brother is 9 years old and severely lacking in self esteem and self confidence. It's very boring for him where we live because there are no kids his age to play with so every night he's sat in watching tv which really isn't healthy for a young lad of his age.
He's also been very naughty latley which I think is down to his parents getting divorced.
Anyhow I need to find something for him to do, a place where he can make new pals, gain much needed confidence and a form of self defence. I was thinking of boxing but I think he'd prefer a martial art.
We live in Stannington so a class anywhere around there would be good, hilsborough would be ideal.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance.
DaBouncer 12-05-2003, 13:39 Originally posted by "steelblade"
Sorry to hijack the thread but I really need some advice.
My little brother is 9 years old and severely lacking in self esteem and self confidence. It's very boring for him where we live because there are no kids his age to play with so every night he's sat in watching tv which really isn't healthy for a young lad of his age.
He's also been very naughty latley which I think is down to his parents getting divorced.
Anyhow I need to find something for him to do, a place where he can make new pals, gain much needed confidence and a form of self defence. I was thinking of boxing but I think he'd prefer a martial art.
We live in Stannington so a class anywhere around there would be good, hilsborough would be ideal.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance.
One of my work colleagues seems to think that there is a Taekwondo course in the Stannington Community Centre (Lomas Hall) on Monday evenings. As she is from Stannington herself, she would know being from there.
She also runs a youth Drama workshop in the Church Hall on School Lane for 8-16yr olds on Tuesday evening between 7.30-8.30pm. She has about 20 children between the ages of 8-10yr old attending on these evenings. The Co' is called 'StarStruck' (just another option for you) and the fee is £2 per week.
Hope these help!
steelblade 12-05-2003, 13:45 Thanks for that info.
I guess the only way to find out if there is the martial art class is to go up to lomas hall tonight.
I have to do something I'm so worried for my brother. I'm afraid his lack of confidence is going to make him a target for bullies and I want to make sure that doesn't happen.
DaBouncer 12-05-2003, 13:55 Helen (the woman who runs StarStruck) is very nice, and knows all about helping kids gain Self Esteem and and confidence. Plus there are kids his age there. It may be worth a look.
Also you can't go wrong with Taekwondo or Boxing for gaining confidence too! Good luck!
steelblade 12-05-2003, 13:59 Thanks alot. I think the martial arts one is definately more what I had in mind but the starstruck sounds like it might help him. I think I will have a look in the phone book and give helen a ring.
Tuesday evenings is ideal aswell as I get home at 6pm so that leaves plenty of time to pick him up and take him up to the village plus I can afford the £2 easily.
DaBouncer 12-05-2003, 14:04 You can contact Helen at the StarStruck email address:
starstrucksheffield@yahoo.co.uk
She's sat opposite me right now, and she is more than happy to have your brother attend.
Cheers
Kirk (DaBouncer) :D
steelblade 12-05-2003, 14:08 Thanks so much you've been really helpful. I will mail her now.
Hi Dabouncer,
If you haven't tried Karate yet I recommend GOJU-RYU. There's a club on Derbyshire Lane, up near Graves Park in the Church Hall opposite the Post Office. GOJU RYU is one of the original, traditional forms which is the bedrock of ALL karate. Non-competetive, its hard physical and mental training in the traditional way make it a difficult style to do.I almost put "master" but no-one "masters" GOJU-RYU .Its techniques reflect the self defence aspect of this style. The club belongs to a Nationwide organisation, which in turn is affiliated to a worldwide federation headed by a native Okinawan. I believe you would find it very interesting.
The training is Tuesdays 7.30-9-30 Saturdays 2.00- 400.
DaBouncer 14-05-2003, 07:20 I might give it a look! At the moment my own training is taking a lot of time, but I will deffinately going to have a look!
On a similar matter. There is a guy who teaches a mix of Martial Arts, consisting of Kick Boxing, Brazilian Ju-Jitsu, Karate and some others.
He teaches on Monday evenings in a community hall of some kind next to St Mary's Church at the bottom of Bramall Lane. I don't know the exact time of training, but he is reputed to be VERY good!
All Martial arts have some thing to offer if you know what you want.
The guy who taught at Bramhall lane is now teaching at The Source at Meadowhall on Mondays and wednesdays
DaBouncer 15-05-2003, 16:42 Originally posted by "jay_kd"
All Martial arts have some thing to offer if you know what you want.
The guy who taught at Bramhall lane is now teaching at The Source at Meadowhall on Mondays and wednesdays
Mark isn't on Bramall Lane anymore?
No at meadowhall now doing two nights for them,and they are asking for more nights as well.small size classes, a hard work out, good stuff if i do say so my self (lol)
DaBouncer 15-05-2003, 20:25 Whats he charging at M'Hall, and ask him if he's still doing the doorman bit?
you pay M'Hall £4 for 1 and half hour class, or £35 a month for everything (gym and martial arts)
Have you trained with Mark then, if not how do you know him
can i ask who it is that is asking after him, so i can pass it on and we may be able to get him on here
DaBouncer 15-05-2003, 20:49 I did my bouncer training course wih him.
He may not remember me... the name is ************.
I actually meant to go and train with him at Bramall Lane, but never got around to it.
Will have to pop down! Does he deffo not train doen bramall lane anymore then?
hello one and all if anyone can help it would be appreciated! iam looking to do some form of martial art, as iam already quite active and fit i would like to toughen up a little can anybody recommend any particular style (i hear kung-fu is good) iam looking around eccleshall rd/brammal lane area. cheers
there are some excellent taekwondo clubs around sheffield under the BTCB official governing body(wtf olympic style).they are pilsung taekwondo, chief instructor andrew hill 4th dan.
there over 200 members in clubs around sheffield of all ages and skill levels,some are british and european medalists.
the club is very friendly and welcome everyone.
venues all around sheffield.
check out www.pilsung.freeserve.co.uk
I have trained at Pilsung Clubs in and around Sheffield for about 3years. This club is very welcoming and friendly. There are over 200 members & 40+ black belts. This club is geared towards sport taekwondo (Fighting-like the kind you see at the olyimpics) and recently 3 students took part in the GB cup with 2 students getting 4th place in the 1 in the Female Senior 45kg+ devision, and another in the Junior male division. The last student got a silver medal in the Male Senior 80kg+ devision. This shows that Instructors have a great teaching ability and the Students here are eager to do well. For more info visit the Pilsung Website (http://www.pilsung.freeserve.co.uk)
Jack Yerbody 07-11-2003, 18:17 I'm a fifth dan in Karate (Wado Ryu) and am desperately looking for a suitable dojo in Yorkshire - willing to travel to find a sufficiently senior sensei.
On the topic of best martial art for self-defence, I've always found aikido superb in handling close-quarters situations, but DaBouncer is right to point out that a more "pro-active" style is a useful add-on. Aikido is a complete defensive system, but does take a long time to become good at. Karate is perhaps a little too rigid and strength-based for self-defence. Muay Thai is too much like overkill, in my opinion, for self-defence purposes. Instead, I'd recommend ju-jitsu, particularly the brazilian style, as it has a nice balance of throws, locks and offensive manoeuvers.
carloswoody 13-11-2003, 14:02 Are there any Geoff Thompson style teachers in sheffield, I would really like to get some experience of the more "street" based art, and especially the psychological side of things, like pre-fight build up, neuro-linguistic programming etc.....
How about any QCB teachers?
Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
Muay Thai is too much like overkill, in my opinion, for self-defence purposes.
Why do you say that? Just interested....
I'm doing Ju-Jitsu and Muay Thai - sort of contratdictory styles but like them both, though only at the bottom of the ladder....
Jack Yerbody 18-11-2003, 19:06 Originally posted by Mike
Why do you say that? Just interested....
I'm doing Ju-Jitsu and Muay Thai - sort of contratdictory styles but like them both, though only at the bottom of the ladder....
Whilst the Muay Thai exponents I've known have always been incredibly flexible and skilled, I find the style encourages a string of vicious, indiscriminate attacks in order to debilitate one's opponent. If you're looking for self-defence training, learning how to kick the s*** out of someone isn't, in my opinion, the way to go about it - sooner or later, you'll run into someone who can take several kicks to the head without much concern..
I much prefer ju-jitsu, as it's a more "complete" a system of defence, with locks, strikes and holds all combining to provide a useful defence to most attacks.
That said, I'm still most qualified in karate - and put me against a Muay Thai exponent of similar years and I guarantee he'll be in a worse position than I.
Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
Whilst the Muay Thai exponents I've known have always been incredibly flexible and skilled, I find the style encourages a string of vicious, indiscriminate attacks in order to debilitate one's opponent. If you're looking for self-defence training, learning how to kick the s*** out of someone isn't, in my opinion, the way to go about it - sooner or later, you'll run into someone who can take several kicks to the head without much concern..
I think then it's time for a bit of fast running :)
Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
I much prefer ju-jitsu, as it's a more "complete" a system of defence, with locks, strikes and holds all combining to provide a useful defence to most attacks.
I think JJ is great, but I can see it taking many years before it's useful in the heat of the moment because it's so technical.
Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
That said, I'm still most qualified in karate - and put me against a Muay Thai exponent of similar years and I guarantee he'll be in a worse position than I.
Of course, a seasoned MT person would say that about a Karate person ;)
JJ is very complex with many techniques and moves to master. Not many people mention any of the wrestling styles but they are very useful and effective and not half as complex.
Jack Yerbody 22-11-2003, 11:37 For self-defence purposes I'd advise against it. By its very nature, grappling brings you as close to your opponent as you can be, which is the complete opposite of what you want to be doing, i.e. running away. If running away isn't an option, you're best off dealing with your attacker quickly and effectively, in a manner which minimises the risk to yourself. Wrestling doesn't do that.
The best form of self defence is not to be in the wrong place to begin with ...
Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
For self-defence purposes I'd advise against it. By its very nature, grappling brings you as close to your opponent as you can be, which is the complete opposite of what you want to be doing, i.e. running away. If running away isn't an option, you're best off dealing with your attacker quickly and effectively, in a manner which minimises the risk to yourself. Wrestling doesn't do that.
No form of self defence is going to keep you away from an agressor. Running always a primary consideration. I work to my strengths for what suits my frame, which happens to be grappling. Most confrontations end up grappling eventually. I've found some experience gained from Greco wrestling very effective in real life situations. The essentials are basic but practical.
I think it makes sense to add grappling to your skillset as it will give you the ability to fight if the fight goes to the floor. I intend to do some grappling in the future, but not at the moment as I don't have the time for 3 different styles at once!
Probably go for Brazilian Ju-Jitsu as there's a good place nearish where I live.
In my experience only a minority of fights end up in a brawl on the floor and the best from of self defence is to learn how to kick hard and where it hurts most to be kicked. I have learnt both of these from taekwondo. For more info on taekwondo in and arround sheffield vist Pilsung Website (http://www.pilsung.freeserve.co.uk)
Think the Muay Thai looks after kicking people hard well enough.
I just think eventually it'd be nice to learn how to grapple as well, but I'm talking a long way down the line....
Yep, Muay Thai is also great for the knees.
DaBouncer 28-11-2003, 07:21 Originally posted by Mike
Think the Muay Thai looks after kicking people hard well enough.
I just think eventually it'd be nice to learn how to grapple as well, but I'm talking a long way down the line....
Andy Marlow teaches a mixed Muay Thai, boxing and grappling style. He's got a gym at woodseats.
That's handy to know - a mate of mine was at a boxing gym in Woodseats for a while but apparantly it closed down - is this a different place?
I do really like the Wicker Camp though - great atmosphere.
Hi Mike
I noticed you're after learning a form of Martial Art that has techniques for striking and restraining/disabling an aggressor.
Goju Ryu would fulfill all these criteria. I can give you more info if you want,
Cheers Crimbo, I'll bear that in mind....
This part of the forum is getting quite MA heavy, isn't it?!
Anyway, just a quick plug to the Wicker Camp Muay Thai gym - they're holding an open day on Sunday (7th) with all proceeds going to St Luke's Hospice.
Entry fee is £8 for adults, less for nippers. There will be around 15 fights with fighters from visiting gyms, and also other things like an equipment shop, etc. Open from 12, kickoff at 1pm.
tombodojoj 02-12-2003, 11:53 fao dabouncer how is marcelo?he ran a capoiera class in sheffield for a while but i think that closed down and i couldnt make it to rotherham.
have you never thought about doing budo taijutsu?
i have studied wing chun, lau gar, muay thai, karate, jkd and i have found taijutsu is so much the best.
one of my friends studied wing chun for 8 years and muay thai and ju-jutsu, (he came third in the british championships) but he has gone back to wing chun as he has seen the openings that these martial arts have, he is coming to check out our class and we don't grade really, its not about the money its not about the grade its about learning.
all martial arts have some thing to offer, if you know what to look for, and if you know what you want, if its keep fit do, tae bo,if its to fight (only in self defence) LOL
then you need some thing where they train hard and make impact on pads or bags, you have to be able to handle any range you find yourself in, during the fight, so you need to know how to punch,kick, grapple, and defend against the knife,and other weapons.
and you need to stay a white belt that way you will learn.
21 years as a white belt lol, i'm still looking for the perfect art but i know i wont find it
train hard,train safe BUT MAKE SURE YOU TRAIN
i have been to andy hills and he is good but he does noly sport taekwondo and at my age it is no good to me. i like other styles of martial art which uses more traditional methods and self defence try sevenhills at wadsley church
Originally posted by Jack Yerbody
I'm a fifth dan in Karate (Wado Ryu) and am desperately looking for a suitable dojo in Yorkshire - willing to travel to find a sufficiently senior sensei. On the topic of best martial art for self-defence, I've always found aikido superb in handling close-quarters situations, but
The thread below mentions Martin - he is 4th dan Karate (Wado Ryu I think) and 2nd dan Aikido - he should know where you can train in Sheffield.
RMJ Atkinson
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/aikido/
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APPEALING to all martial artists in the sheffield area
hi my name is greg and i am currently training in Aikido. our club ran by Steve Walker and Martin Wilson has just moved to the new English Institute of Sport (between Don Valley Stadium and the Arena) and were are desperatly short of members. at thsi point in time we have just 4 regular members and we are calling at you to come down for a night and try out training with Aikido as we are so short in numbers
the times are thursday at 7pm til 8pm
Tel Steve for more infomation on
01246 853897
07799608356 (mob)
thankyou in advance greg.
tombodojoj 13-01-2004, 12:02 i study as i have mentioned before taijutsu, now this is a system of nine schools (ryus, jutsu's) one of our schools is the gyokko ryu koppijutsu which is where most of the japanese arts have thier origins.
something i found interesting at a seminar in kukishinden ryu last weekend was the fact that karate punchs are the way they are because of when the british american french all of the aliens went to japan and changed the way of walking, which is why you have the reverse punch and the entire way of moving. it is hard to explain in writing, lol. but it was great.
Originally posted by steelblade
Sorry to hijack the thread but I really need some advice.
My little brother is 9 years old and severely lacking in self esteem and self confidence. It's very boring for him where we live because there are no kids his age to play with so every night he's sat in watching tv which really isn't healthy for a young lad of his age.
He's also been very naughty latley which I think is down to his parents getting divorced.
Anyhow I need to find something for him to do, a place where he can make new pals, gain much needed confidence and a form of self defence. I was thinking of boxing but I think he'd prefer a martial art.
We live in Stannington so a class anywhere around there would be good, hilsborough would be ideal.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Dunno if they still do, but back in the day they used to have Karate lessons on Saturday mornings at the Pinegrove.
That's where I first started back "when I were a lad" probably around 89/90.
DaBouncer 14-01-2004, 11:02 Originally posted by tombodojoj
fao dabouncer how is marcelo?he ran a capoiera class in sheffield for a while but i think that closed down and i couldnt make it to rotherham.
have you never thought about doing budo taijutsu?
i have studied wing chun, lau gar, muay thai, karate, jkd and i have found taijutsu is so much the best.
one of my friends studied wing chun for 8 years and muay thai and ju-jutsu, (he came third in the british championships) but he has gone back to wing chun as he has seen the openings that these martial arts have, he is coming to check out our class and we don't grade really, its not about the money its not about the grade its about learning.
Sorry for the late reply... only just seen this post.
I haven't seen marcelo for ages now.
I dropped out of the class when I changed jobs and working pattern. However I am planning to go back soon.
He was fine last time I saw him; still training hard.
The art I wouldn't say is the most effective for self defence, but it's sooooooooo much fun to learn and it gets you so fit. Probably fitter than thai boxing.
This is as a result of a post earlier,
to all martial artists out there
what martial art do you Train?
how long have you been training?
what else have you done?
why do you train in the art that you train in?
i know its a lot but this could be fun
i will put mine on in a while thank you.
what martial art do you Train?
Thai Boxing
how long have you been training?
Not too long
what else have you done?
Taekwondo when I was younger for around a year.
why do you train in the art that you train in?
Because it's the most violent and physically challenging I could find. Requires extreme self-motivation and willpower, plus a set of balls.
DaBouncer 19-02-2004, 07:47 Currently not training in any martial arts.
However I have trained in the following:
Taekwondo
Capoiera
Ju-Jitsu
Aikido
Thai Boxing
Started originaly training when I was about 14.
I cant find just one art to train in, so I sample a lot of different ones. I'm currently looking for a training session somewhere mate. ;) ;)
Any special 'discount' anywhere that you know of??? You know for 'friends' / 'occupational colleagues' type :D
- Ju-Jitsu for coming up to a year.
- Muay Thai for about 4 months.
Why? I like the technical nature of JJ and the way that you use an opponent's force to disarm them. Also a good way of restraining people without having to strike them, and for learning how to fall and roll properly.
I like MT because it's the opposite - relatively simple but very brutal moves.
I can imagine MT being effective quite quickly whereas I can see JJ only being effective in a real situation after many years of training.
Not training at the moment some prat ran me over in her car but;
10 years in Shotokan Karate as student and teacher
have also studied Aikido and Kendo, Iado.
started training for defence and application and worked a couple of years as a door man. Was interested in control of violence not violence itself and pride myself on never have unnecessarily hurt anyone when working the door.
I love Japanese history and culture and enjoy the traditional aspects. my martial arts now affects my approach to life and I now realise the enemy was me all the time and once I mastered that life was pretty good through these systems.
Bit deep but the Martial Arts can get you that way.
I used to train in Shotokan Karate back when I was 14, but gave it up when I went away to college in the early 90s, and haven't really had the time or chance to get back into it since, although I'd like to, for the exercise more than anything.
I just have a busy weekly schedule at the moment so it's hard fitting anything like that in.
Ok here we go with mine,
Started training in Wado Ryu in 1983, got my 1st dan in 86,
did some Shotokan and Renshinkai, and Tae Kwon Do(ITF AND WTF)
also done some Kickboxing and Judo.
Started Jeet Kune Do in 93 been doing it since
started Eskrima/Kali at the same time still doing that as well
trained with some of the top JKD/KALI instructors both in the UK and the USA, Competed in full contact stickfighting internationally,
i have also been lucky to train with some of the best Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu Instructors in the world as well.
i enjoy the freedom JKD gives me to my training.
and still class myself as a student.
also spend my friday and saturday nights working on the door, roll on the summer nights(LOL)
mojoworking 24-02-2004, 07:26 Originally posted by jay_kd
Ok here we go with mine,
Started training in Wado Ryu in 1983, got my 1st dan in 86,
did some Shotokan and Renshinkai, and Tae Kwon Do(ITF AND WTF)
also done some Kickboxing and Judo.
Started Jeet Kune Do in 93 been doing it since
started Eskrima/Kali at the same time still doing that as well
trained with some of the top JKD/KALI instructors both in the UK and the USA, Competed in full contact stickfighting internationally,
i have also been lucky to train with some of the best Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu Instructors in the world as well.
i enjoy the freedom JKD gives me to my training.
and still class myself as a student.
also spend my friday and saturday nights working on the door, roll on the summer nights(LOL)
Did you spill my pint? :)
DaBouncer 24-02-2004, 08:26 Originally posted by mojoworking
Did you spill my pint? :)
No that was me :P
mojoworking 24-02-2004, 08:28 Originally posted by DaBouncer
No that was me :P
Oh, that's OK then.
jay_kd must have been looking at my bird, then. :)
That depends if she is worth looking at.
mojoworking 24-02-2004, 09:28 I've just remembered, I had to leave her outside. She was wearing trainers. :)
well i'm sure if she was worth looking at DB would have looked after her LOL outside while you were inside
mojoworking 24-02-2004, 11:41 I don't want any trouble, but I think it's only fair to warn you - I'm a black belt in origami!
:loopy: i dont now i know what you do :confused: :D
littleidea 24-02-2004, 17:35 Trained in Wing Chun for nearly four years. Nearly three with my current Sifu and one year with another.
The reason is that W.C. seems relatively simple and very straight forward but, to master the real skills can take your whole life. So, it presents a lasting challenge with infinate depth and will remain with you for as long as you live. The only limit is how hard you train.
Plus it keeps me off the streets :)
battouchan 25-02-2004, 09:20 Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu
4 Years
Did Taekwondo for a bit.
Not really a martial art but i do tricks n flips aswell.
Reason: We are not limited to anything, we dont focus on one aspect, we do things from punching, throwing, weapons, rolling,locks.
+ It is very cool to do samurai stuff :-)
Rurouni_Roni 25-02-2004, 12:59 kickboxing
american combat fighting. (my dad is a third degee black beltin it so i used to train with him but now me and my dad go to a kickboxing school).
8 months
green belt
reason mixes all the best martial arts into 1.
reason mixes all the best martial arts into 1.
have u tried all the 'best martial arts' to qualify you to make this comparison?
I've trained in Jiu Jitsu for 7 years, my grade is 1st kyu. Most recently at Sheffield Uni, before that at Aston uni, Portsmouth Uni and Birmingham Uni.
My reasons are complicated. I started to learn self-defence amongst other reasons. I carry on because I am still learning, I enjoy it, it keeps me fit, etc...
Before that I trained for 5 years in TKD.
animatronico 06-03-2004, 14:52 Capoeira
23 years
I'm a Capoeira master
in capoeira u learn to control your body and mind
my web site is http://www.polichinelocircus.co.uk/html/capoeira.html
visit it to learn more about this martial art ;)
DaBouncer 06-03-2004, 15:40 Hey Hey Marcello
I trained with you in Rotherham.
And guys I can highly recommend this guy, he's a true master in every sense of the word when it comes to Capoiera.
Nice work Marcello.. welcome to the forum :thumbsup:
ok my turn
started muay thai in 1989 trained for 1 year
moved to dodgy freestyle/kickboxing club 2 years
taekwondo started in 1990 till present
wing chun in 1999 till present
jkd/kali/eskrima dabbled a bit ,started serious instruction aroung 2002 till present
muay thai(again)2002-present
invited to join guro bob breens jkd/kali international instructors programme in 2003 attend seminars and lessions with guro breen every six weeks
continue to dabble/play in other systems as and when i can
Taekwondo (ITF)
how long have you been training?
4 years this May
what else have you done?
Wado Ryu Karate (2.5 years)
why do you train in the art that you train in?
Because it's good for all round fitness, flexibility and general self defence.
Last saturday I had a go with a freestyle Jujitsu class and LOVED it so I'm going back tomorrow. We don't get enough grappling, wrestling or restraining in TKD so I'm really going to enjoy rolling about doing Jujitsu. I need to learn how to 'roll' properly and these guys can teach me that. Wicked!
evildrneil 19-03-2004, 22:23 Oooh bits an pieces mainly - thai boxing, boxing, fencing, archery some judo and jui jitsu.
Now I want to try some kali/silat and maybe some capoera :D
OldBlood 15-05-2004, 20:52 abcdefghij
Hi James i do remember you, your welcome back training any time hope to see you soon,
if fact anyone is welcome,
Mark
Hmm, if only I wasn't so busy during the week... I'd be up for a bit of training in the fighting art invented by Bruce Lee himself.
Purely for exercise and self defence of course, I have no intention of entering a pretend martial arts contest which is really a front for a drugs and prostitution ring on a secret mission to bring down a balding gang boss...
WOW! I just described the plot to Enter The Dragon!
Anyone got any suggestions for a new martial art since I'm now disillusioned with Taekwondo after 4 years and would like to try something with a bit of grappling in it as I've ben punching and kicking for a while now and as a result grappling is foreign to me and I think I'd really enjoy it.
I considered Judo. Anyone suggest anything different on the grappling side?
I would suggest Greco wrestling, however finding somewhere in Sheffield might be a problem.
Yup, that's what I wondered. Finding a specialised martial art in Sheffield isn't going to be easy so I'd like to go for something that's fairly easy to find. Judo, possibly Jujitsu or Aikido.
Anyone know of any good schools I could go to in Sheffield?
evildrneil 31-05-2004, 19:23 There is a shootfighting club in Sheffield which has a pretty good reputation - shootfighting is a mix of freestyle wrestling judo/jui jitsu and thai boxing so I'm guessing the classes are pretty rough if that appeals / put you off? Although you have a background in kicking / punching don't dismiss arts that combine the two as its not always a straightforward thing to do! If however you want to do pure grappling judo is probably the way to go :)
Take a peek at:
http://sfuk.tripod.com/clubs/shootsheffield.html
and
http://sfuk.tripod.com/clubs/royce_sheffield.html
Yup, not into full contact stuff cos I like my face the way it is. ;)
Judo it is then. :) Will have a look around.
Ta
evildrneil 31-05-2004, 20:23 In that case you may want to know that injury rates for aikido and associated arts are actually much higher than for full contact!!!
Flutterbyes 08-06-2004, 10:15 i do thai boxing at the sheffield wicker camp
v good, done 2 sessions so far and im not giving up, even tho its dammed hard work...
Emilychee 08-06-2004, 10:27 Is there anywhere in Sheffield that teaches Jeet Kune Do?
evildrneil 09-06-2004, 10:05 Yup - in fact the originator of this thread teaches it!!! Its tought somewhere over near Meadow Hell - the source I believe it is called - but not sure of days or times...
Emily, I Teach at the source meadowhall, monday,wednesday and thrusdays from 7pm till 8-30pm
the tram stops right outside the source, so its easy to get to if you have to come from the city centre,
every one welcome to join or just come down for a chat, pm me if you want any more details
thank you
Mark
Jay_kd
Okinawan Goju Ryu Karate-do since 1984
Yondan
Dojo in the city centre www.hallamdojo.co.uk
Going to Okinawa next month looking forward to everything but the humidity!
andyb
wheres good to go for kick boxing?
hillsborough would b best for me?
anyone know anywhere round there?
thanx
evildrneil 14-06-2004, 15:44 Its not in Hillsborough but I can't recomend Mick Mullany's Wicker Camp Thai Boxing camp highly enough...
Originally posted by steelcitybab
wheres good to go for kick boxing?
hillsborough would b best for me?
anyone know anywhere round there?
thanx
393 Club on Langsett Road then, opposite Morrisons and next door to the Queen's Ground pub.
Originally posted by Rich
393 Club on Langsett Road then, opposite Morrisons and next door to the Queen's Ground pub.
thanx rich :thumbsup:
do you know how much & how long a class is?
n what nights there on, or weekends?
cheerz
Hi try this web site www.prokungfu.com for the classes at hillsbourgh 393 club
TimofDeath 26-07-2004, 19:40 I'm after a number for Sifu Richard Baines at the Carlisle street Wing Chun club. Can anyone help me out?
animatronico 23-09-2004, 06:49 Hey DaBouncer
the Capoeira web site was up dated is now here http:www.polichinelocircus.co.uk
Marcelo is the Master of the Capoeira in Sheffield And Capoeira in Rotherham
Freddylee 25-02-2005, 14:23 good old mark hayes
there are quite a few good martial arts clubs in sheffield and an awful lot of turkeys :P
Now clubs i think are Good:
Mark Hayes at the source is good
The kickboxing in the city centre www.sheffieldkickboxing.com
(i want my commission for this one :P) is where i train currently when i get spare time or when im not too knackered from a long shift.
The wicker camp for muay thai is good too.
The kickboxing at hallam uni is dead freindly and a good laugh.
Then theres Marsdens all styles in hillsborough leisure centre.
Its run by these 2 brothers who are damned good. Karate background but they have a good mix of skills.
Freddylee 25-02-2005, 14:44 393 club
thats lau gar isnt it? i know they do a "kickboxing " syllabus but everyone claims that these days :P
id recommend marsdens all styles at hillsborough leisure centre
OR:
www.sheffieldkickboxing.co.uk
i.e. black dragons kickboxing.
they used to be at Burton Street but now they have classes in walkley and upperthorpe
the instructor claude knows what hes on about.
Freddylee 25-02-2005, 14:46 i would have recommeneded the one i go to but its in town and not hillsborough
My exp:
9 or 10 years Judo
2 years Shotokan Karate
couple of month Jui-Jutsu
Originally posted by carloswoody
Are there any Geoff Thompson style teachers in sheffield, I would really like to get some experience of the more "street" based art, and especially the psychological side of things, like pre-fight build up, neuro-linguistic programming etc.....
How about any QCB teachers?
Not exactly Sheffield, but Dave Turton, who has taught Geoff Thompson (along with other martial arts 'names' such as Kevin O' Hagan, Jamie O'Keefe, Andy Crittenden, etc.), has a club in Thrybergh, Rotherham (Oldgate Lane).
He teaches a mix that includes Goshinkwai, boxing, savate, greco-roman wrestling and such exotic arts as lancashire catch wrestling!
i believe one of his students is also teaching in sheffield, somewhere around the Manor, but i'm not certain where
Freddylee 29-03-2005, 14:06 Dave turton is a top man
he is THE MAN
hes done a seminar with our club at the uni club that is
dead approachable
jitsu_brasil 01-04-2005, 22:07 Good debate Guys,
the point on jiu-jitsu is good but their is also Brazilian Jiu-jitsu which has come to the fore front. i am a black belt in traditional Jiu-jitsu and graded directly under Roce Gracie of UFC fame in brazilian Jiu-jitsu. I have just started an adult club in Dronfield if your interested.
For who Royce is please see the internet - he won 3 of the first no rules UFC events.
The cool thing about Royces way of teaching is that the first principle is that your don't get injured while training what ever your fitness level. I am not a Royce Gracie club but I do use his principles.
After 20 years in Martial Arts I had never come across anything like it.
if it's not BJJ that you are teaching, what is it?
And what grade did Royce award you?
jitsu_brasil 01-04-2005, 23:08 We do teach BJJ, I said its not a Gracie Club. Have you trained with Royce ?
Originally posted by jitsu_brasil
We do teach BJJ, I said its not a Gracie Club. Have you trained with Royce ?
no, i just wondered what exactly you meant by having trained with him. It's easy to go to someones seminar once.
If you teach BJJ what belt do you hold (in BJJ not JJ)?
jitsu_brasil 02-04-2005, 07:01 I know what you mean about just attending someones seminar. I train individually with Royce a few times a year privately either in the UK or in Los Angeles. Last time was in February this year and next time in April then July.
I have a Blue Belt from Royce. I have a black belt in traditional Jiu-jitsu and a brown belt in Karate - Shotokan.
For me its the fun and enjoyment of learning. I don't so much as teach but share what I know and hope the person I am training with will do the same for me.
Originally posted by ANVIL
Not exactly Sheffield, but Dave Turton, who has taught Geoff Thompson (along with other martial arts 'names' such as Kevin O' Hagan, Jamie O'Keefe, Andy Crittenden, etc.), has a club in Thrybergh, Rotherham (Oldgate Lane).
He teaches a mix that includes Goshinkwai, boxing, savate, greco-roman wrestling and such exotic arts as lancashire catch wrestling!
i believe one of his students is also teaching in sheffield, somewhere around the Manor, but i'm not certain where
i think two of Dave Turton's students are teaching at Waltheof, and I believe Dave makes a fortnightly appearance there.
Freddylee 05-08-2005, 15:25 Dave turton has done a seminar at our club before
would love to train with dave again.
Would be nice to train with one of his guys but lets be honest theres only ONE dave turton
loudigital 31-10-2006, 10:26 Rowan Aikido
Dear curvta 1
Have you tried or heard of the karate style Goju-Ryu? Apparently this is one of the original forms of karate from Okinawa, the birthplace of Karate
I'm told. Developed from Kung -Fu ,I believe. Ther's a very good club on
Derbyshire Lane, Norton, that might be worth a visit.
I believe the very wise and mystical mr miagi hails from okinawa.
chefkicker 01-11-2006, 10:17 I do kickboxing.
The system i practise is I believe one of the best all round systems of stand up fighting.
Our system is good for the ring under most contact sport systems and also good for self defence where it matters most and the stakes are higher so to speak.
A large proportion of the practitioners of my system take it up for a fitness work out with self defense thrown in.
We train at Wellington Street Boxing Gym in the town centre and also have classes at Sheffield Hallam university(Collegiate Crescent campus) and also at Goodwin Sports centre on Northumberland Road.
Beginners classes at Wellington street:
MONDAY 830-930PM
THURSDAY 830-930PM
SUNDAY 12-130PM
WOMENS ONLY CLASS = 730-830PM
PRIVATE LESSONS ALSO AVAILABLE BY APPOINTMENT
RING 07775 914155
Davemantis 02-11-2006, 12:44 There’s not that muck kung fu in Sheffield but I have a class just outside www.mfcba.co.uk
Tuesday
7 star praying mantis 7.30pm
wing chun 8.30pm
Thursday
Weapons 6.30
7 star praying mantis 7.30pm
Sanda (Chinese kickboxing) 8.30pm
Saturday
Wing Chun+ Mantis open session 10am
Sunday
7 Star Praying Mantis in Doncaster 1.30
craignixon 13-11-2006, 13:02 Hi there I have trained in Shotokan to my 1st dan, I did Tae Kwon Do for about 2 years, and I did Ju jitsu for about 6 months.
I have now found what i consider the best style and this is just my personal opinion!: Freestyle with the British Martial Arts Academy with Brian and Ashley Beck, I have been with them for 9 years now i am a 3rd dan with them. I have been teaching for about 5 years in Brinsworth, Rotherham and i now make a living out of it.
We include diffrent styles into our system from what all the other instructors have learned. from akido, hapkido, judo, ju jitsu, karate, kickboxing and boxing. even though people get the idea that freestyle people only do fighting, this is not the case with us. we do loads of everything, if you just want to fight then we have got lessons on just fighting, if you want to do acrobatic tricks then we have lessons just on that, we include self-defence (akido style into the normal lessons as well as loads of pad work bag work and many other things).
well thats my thoughts on styles the good thing with a freestyle system is that you can adapt to new techniques, and with no disrespect meant, a lot of traditional styles like shotokan seem to get stuck in the old days and don't consider anything new to work, iam not saying that every traditional class is like this but alot of them are. no disrespect meant as you are all still good at what you do.
chefkicker 13-11-2006, 16:32 Craig Nixon,...
hmmm there goes a name rather familiar. I cant help thinking I have heard this name somewhere before.
Now "Freestyle" or freestyle karate has its pluses and minuses.
Plus points:
Flashy and flamboyant. Pretty nice and eye catching kicking techniques. Fast and mobile from a fighting perspective.
Something in it for everyone. Theres bits of competitive sparring (mostly semi contact sparring but better than nothing I guess), there is musical forms/Freeform for the ones who like "kata/patterns" . Then there is the XMA and the weapons training you guys do.
All in all not a bad system.
Minus points:
The musical forms/gymnastics /XMA/Freeform are not respected in traditional martial arts circles (like you guys actually give a f*** :P LOL)
The sparring is generally semi contact, i.e. if someone from a Freestyle background sparred with say a Thaiboxer, or even a western boxer. Then 9 times out of 10, they will quite honestly get "duffed up" .
I DO NOT MEAN THIS DISRESPECTFULLY. I am just going by what I have seen as I have practised Freestyle myself.
Now Craig I would love to be proved wrong (and this does happen on a regular basis with martial arts LOL) but this is simply my opinion.
All in all though, Freestyle is better than many things.
As long as they dont call it "kickboxing" I dont have a problem.
Call a Spade a spade,.. dont call it a Samurai Sword
Keep up the training Craig.
:thumbsup:
Davemantis 07-12-2006, 08:32 got a a post up about a meet at x mas if any one is Interested pm me.
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