Hedgehog50
09-11-2008, 00:17
Laura White has just been voted off xfactor how bad is that? She was one of the best singers, isn't that what its suppose to be about? Its a disgrace.
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View Full Version : Is XFactor a fiddle? Hedgehog50 09-11-2008, 00:17 Laura White has just been voted off xfactor how bad is that? She was one of the best singers, isn't that what its suppose to be about? Its a disgrace. pspabuser 09-11-2008, 00:18 lol seems like it lmao Little Buzz 09-11-2008, 00:18 No, it's not about who is the best singer, it's about who people like most ... Hedgehog50 09-11-2008, 00:21 Dont even get me started on ruth paella!! this girl thinks she is a diva already. Go back to spain luv. taxman 09-11-2008, 00:22 Who cares? Haven't people got better things to do or think about? It's a gameshow, it's entertainment, it's not supposed to be fair Dozy 09-11-2008, 00:25 Who cares? Haven't people got better things to do or think about? It's a gameshow, it's entertainment, it's not supposed to be fair My bold That's a matter of opinion! :hihi: Bladesman 09-11-2008, 00:25 Its crap and it probably is fixed. tina22161 09-11-2008, 00:27 Laura White has just been voted off xfactor how bad is that? She was one of the best singers, isn't that what its suppose to be about? Its a disgrace. personally I think these progammes are a way to extract money from a gullible public . however about you complaint , did you vote ?. taxman 09-11-2008, 00:27 My bold That's a matter of opinion! :hihi: And I bow to your superior judgement (where's the doffing the cap smiley?) :) kblade 09-11-2008, 00:29 I doubt it's fixed. Not after the relatively recent uproar of phone votes and competitions however the final 12 SHOULD be down to the public vote alone IMO. Not the judges choosing who goes from the bottom 2. I have a strong suspision Ruth would have been least voted out of those two tonight. Little Buzz 09-11-2008, 00:32 Is Rik Waller still in it? bizzle 09-11-2008, 00:33 Dont even get me started on ruth paella!! this girl thinks she is a diva already. Go back to spain luv. That is a bit harsh? She does have a fantastic voice but only seems to use it when she is in the bottom two :suspect: As others users have mentioned it is about entertainment & as much as I am surprised that Laura was voted off she did not shine in the performance she gave & you were not getting anything new from her but between them two I would have chosen Laura to stay. I think the judges who have the casting vote are voting off the contestants that are a threat to them, last week it was Austin this week Laura. Out of all the X factor winners who have been successful? minus Leona = 0. As much as it is entertaining to watch I feel sorry for them because they shant have a long term successful career out it & that is what most of them want it is the daddy himself (Simon) who is winning all the way to the bank. Shiesh 09-11-2008, 00:35 Is Rik Waller still in it? OMG you making my ribs hurt PMSL...!!! (back on topic) I was gutted to see Laura go....it should have been Rachel or even Dead Wife Daniel to go....she was robbed !!!!!!! :rant: Hedgehog50 09-11-2008, 00:42 thank you shiesh your on my wave length. I totally agree she was robbed. Leona did prove to be a true winner she is magic. Hedgehog50 09-11-2008, 00:43 It will probably end up something stupid like Daniel winning!!!! OMG kblade 09-11-2008, 01:06 Steve Brookstein springs to mind. Won it... now is where?! NO where, thats where.... luybell 09-11-2008, 08:25 I am disgusted with the X Factor. I like both Ruth & Laura & can't believe they were in the bottom two. I think Owen (not sure how it should be spelt), Rachel & Daniel were rubbish last night while these two were outstanding. Simon & Louie both vote off who they see as the biggest threat which is not what the show should be about. I don't really understand the fuss over JLS either. They seems like noce lads but are not particularly good singers. Austin was also unfairly voted off. I hope both these two do well afterwards as they both have fantastic voices. Alexandra should win, she puts in the best performance week after week. I bet she doesn't though, probably too much competition for Leona Lewis. bellis 09-11-2008, 09:11 Is Rik Waller still in it? you mean this rick waller:D http://bigrikcouk.brinkster.net/images/default_55.jpg Little Buzz 09-11-2008, 09:33 you mean this rick waller:D http://bigrikcouk.brinkster.net/images/default_55.jpg that's the one - he was the best singer in it ... SpiderPete 09-11-2008, 09:36 Let me see, Simon and Louis only have 1 act left now, and they obviously want to win, so they voted off the stronger competition for them both, after all its a competition for the judges. I personally blame the public, not the judges, after all it was the public who put both Ruth and Laura in the bottom 2, not the judges. You should be questioning those who are voting for Daniel, Rachel who were both by far the worst of the night. The door is now open for Alexandra to win. andipep 09-11-2008, 10:04 i think rachael should have gone..she needs a trip to the shop to get some salt & vinegar for that massive chip on her shoulder.::rolleyes: Solomon1 09-11-2008, 10:23 Laura White has just been voted off xfactor how bad is that? She was one of the best singers, isn't that what its suppose to be about? Its a disgrace. most of the voting public are women hh.....and so the male contestants tend to do better than the women, especially if they are cute or have a story. i'm amazed leona lewis won 2 years ago....but then she was head and shoulders above everyone else :) Solomon1 09-11-2008, 10:26 i think rachael should have gone..she needs a trip to the shop to get some salt & vinegar for that massive chip on her shoulder.::rolleyes: know what you mean andi. she's a bit tempremental....but her talent is undeniable (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uubpkUBYX_k).... really wish cheryl cole had been her mentor instead of dannii (not that i watch x factor regularly or owt :D) think she would have had a more solid base from which to work... she's lost her way a little with danni pennypie 09-11-2008, 11:02 Steve Brookstein springs to mind. Won it... now is where?! NO where, thats where.... So strange that you said that... I was thinking the same thing when Daniel was singing tonight. I like him, but he is still on there due to the sympathy vote!! Caitlin_E 09-11-2008, 12:00 I can't believe Austin got voted out of the X factor and Rachel stayed in he is a much better singer than her! Is it just me or does anyone else think its all a Fix?! koenigsinger 09-11-2008, 12:02 I cant believe anyone still thinks it ISNT a fix, in fact I find it even harder to believe that anyone still cares about this 'quick fix anyone can be famous fegardless of talent or commitment and you dont need to actually get out there and DO THE WORK' scam. Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:03 I cant believe anyone still thinks it ISNT a fix i don't think its a fix at all koe.....most of the votes are entirely predictable :) Caitlin_E 09-11-2008, 12:04 Yep defo's a fix... First Austin now Laura! What they hell are the judges thinking. There meant to be keeping the talent in not getting rid of them. SheShe 09-11-2008, 12:07 I can't believe they had to choose between laura and ruth last night. I don't vote but perhaps their supporters thought they were safe and the others got the votes Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:07 its not a fix at all (is there an echo in here? :D) austin should not have gone out....but rachel is more interesting than austin, which is why the judges kept her in. and missed yesterdays show...but ruth and laura...not much to choose between them. should have been daniel and owen in the bottom 2....but the guys always do better than the girls on these kind of shows (big brother, i'm a celebrity)...because most of the voting public are female. Caitlin_E 09-11-2008, 12:10 For the past three weeks the better talent has gone. 1. Scott went and Daniel stayed 2. Austin Went and Rachel stayed (what the hell)! 3. Laura Went and Ruth stayed. Just seems there keeping all the crap talent this year and getting rid of the good ones Caitlin_E 09-11-2008, 12:16 Rachel is more interesting :S Would you buy her songs cus i know i bloody wouldn't. Sounds like a cats being strangled Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:17 For the past three weeks the better talent has gone. 1. Scott went and Daniel stayed 2. Austin Went and Rachel stayed (what the hell)! 3. Laura Went and Ruth stayed. Just seems there keeping all the crap talent this year and getting rid of the good ones in explanation cait...... 1. scott was a better singer, yes...but daniel has a bigger fan base and wasn't as arrogant 2. austin sang better than rachel, also agreed, but she is a much bigger personality than him....so out of the 2, was easily the judges choice. she too is an amazing singer (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uubpkUBYX_k)....but we've not seen this for the last few shows. think she's lost a bit of confidence :(. 3. again, laura is better singer....but ruth has a bigger personality.... this show is as much about charisma and charm, than it is about the singing :) Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:20 also, singers with fan bases that fit their own demographic tend to do better, even if they aren't the most talented. we've seen this phenpmenon in strictly aswell Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:24 Rachel is more interesting :S Would you buy her songs cus i know i bloody wouldn't. Sounds like a cats being strangled its all down to what you like cait...:) personally, i would definitely buy her version of chasing cars. i find it breath-taking :love: cheekychimp 09-11-2008, 12:25 I think it's time to scrap these shows, as much as enjoy watching them they've had their day, and the fact that true talent like laura is voted off instead of someone like daniel just shows that! ch.clark 09-11-2008, 12:31 What should happen is the judges pick first, then the public get to vote on who the judges have picked. At least then it should go on talent? Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:32 What should happen is the judges pick first, then the public get to vote on who the judges have picked. At least then it should go on talent? good idea cc :) cheekychimp 09-11-2008, 12:34 The problem with that is the judges would save their own acts, like they do at the end. The judges shouldn't have categories, then that would work quite nicely! ch.clark 09-11-2008, 12:38 The problem with that is the judges would save their own acts, like they do at the end. The judges shouldn't have categories, then that would work quite nicely! But if they dont vote to save, they vote to put up for for eviction, at least three judges would pick the worst act? If that makes sense?? Caitlin_E 09-11-2008, 12:38 I do agree with that, she sang that well but ever since i have hated everything she has done, apart from the song No more by Mary J Blige's that she sang, everything else has been terrible in my eyes :) Poker_Ace 09-11-2008, 12:39 its all down to what you like cait...:) personally, i would definitely buy her version of chasing cars. i find it breath-taking :love: When she can remember the Lyrics :hihi: Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:41 I do agree with that, she sang that well but ever since i have hated everything she has done, apart from the song No more by Mary J Blige's that she sang, everything else has been terrible in my eyes :) i would agree. there's talent there.....its being suppressed by something tho? Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:43 When she can remember the Lyrics :hihi: don't be mean....there's probably more adrenalin flowing round her than you or i would ever know.... and it messes up memory :) Caitlin_E 09-11-2008, 12:43 Yeah its called Dani Minogue, she has no idea what song's to chose for her. cheekychimp 09-11-2008, 12:43 But if they dont vote to save, they vote to put up for for eviction, at least three judges would pick the worst act? If that makes sense?? I get what you mean, but if the worst act is one of theirs then they wouldn't vote for them would they, or they might vote for the best to eliminate the competition for their acts,i think they should just scrap the whole categories thing, let the acts be in control of their performances, then the worst would deff go first! (and there is no way laura should have gone last night!!) Poker_Ace 09-11-2008, 12:47 don't be mean....there's probably more adrenalin flowing round her than you or i would ever know.... and it messes up memory :) Well as Mr Cowell says, at this stage you either have it or you don't. She needs to buck her ideas up because she is a disgrace and if I was Danni I would have booted her out long ago. She's mardy, childish, arrogant and always goes for the sympathy vote :) Solomon1 09-11-2008, 12:49 Well as Mr Cowell says, at this stage you either have it or you don't she has it dude....she's just lost faith in herself :) Poker_Ace 09-11-2008, 12:51 she has it dude....she's just lost faith in herself :) Well when she's out the real talent can shine :D Fingers crossed for next week :clap: SheShe 09-11-2008, 12:56 Why don't they just automatically kick off the one with the least votes. At least that way people interested might actually vote for their favourite. mistyraven 09-11-2008, 13:46 I was in real shock I thought Laura was very good, Why is the group still in and that older man? cloudybay 09-11-2008, 14:35 I can't believe Austin got voted out of the X factor and Rachel stayed in he is a much better singer than her! 1) Austin was voted out last week 2) Your thread should be in the entertainment section 3) Austin was pants 4) Nobody with a brain cares anyway. Eric_Collins 09-11-2008, 15:32 I must watch x-factor, i Must watch x-factor the voices told me to watch, i must phone and vote, i must phone and vote i am a sheep i hear the voices Kingmaker2 09-11-2008, 15:37 I was in real shock I thought Laura was very good, Why is the group still in and that older man? Relax, who is in or out of the "x" factor isn't worth getting all stessed out about, it really isn't! Besides if this Laura is all that good, she'll do just fine with someone offering her a deal of some kind, given that she has had more tv exposure than most budding singers could ever hope to dream of. pk014b7161 09-11-2008, 15:39 the only thing that i wonder about xfactor is if simon cowell has banged cheryl cole Plain Talker 09-11-2008, 15:44 what is the X factor, and who is this Laura? Glamrock 09-11-2008, 17:33 Cowell has got to be one of the smartest people of all time,he will have every one of the finalists signed up and the beauty of it is he has no publicity to pay for and on top of that his pocket is also being lined by the idiots who phone in with their votes,even the xmas number one is guaranteed and thats got be worth a few bob Glamrock 09-11-2008, 18:08 Of course its a fix..see my post on other x factor thread Saff 09-11-2008, 18:13 just watching the repeat on ITV2. sad I know but i'm a mariah fan, does she sing at the beginning or end? I missed the first 25 minutes. Poker_Ace 09-11-2008, 19:29 just watching the repeat on ITV2. sad I know but i'm a mariah fan, does she sing at the beginning or end? I missed the first 25 minutes. The beginning, then again on the results show.. :) Saff 09-11-2008, 19:46 The beginning, then again on the results show.. :) Thanks, I caught Hero on the results bit, shame I missed the one though. Leona to look forward to next week! damo_bar 09-11-2008, 19:46 is my partner and me the only people in sheffield that thinks last night x factor was a fix. Laura was definitely a finalist if not the winner. she my partner) reckons danny should have gone, i reckon racheal should. jo1986 09-11-2008, 19:48 i agree, rachel should have gone. laura is fantastic! PreferNot 09-11-2008, 19:52 I think that Daniel and Rachael should be gone definatley!!! A couple of others seem to be loved by the millions but aren't my cup of tea are Eoghan and Diana. I had either Laura or Alexandra as clear winners! I think the rubbish ones only seem to stay in because they throw out a sob story... damo_bar 09-11-2008, 19:56 its should go on singing not sob storys and saturday racheal was clearly pants Heyesey 09-11-2008, 19:57 its should go That's your problem right there. There is no "should" in a show like this. It's decided by public vote. The public can vote for any damn useless fool they please, and frequently do exactly that. dumplindeb 09-11-2008, 19:59 i didnt get why louie voted her off and didnt let it go to deadlock, suspicious,,and simon cowell soon bogged off set,,obviously upset. damo_bar 09-11-2008, 20:03 if he was upset why did he vote for her to go home i reckon he has something in pipe line for her or he wants a relationship with her blondebint 09-11-2008, 20:08 To be honest although i didnt agree that those should have been in the bottom2 i certainly think Ruth gave the better performance in the sing off. Laura just doesnt do it for me, i hate the kind of 'twang' she has. Thought her version of over the rainbow was rubbish. Just shows she isn't everyones cup of tea. I dont think ruth will win but she showed a lot more fight than laura. Yes Daniel does seem to have got the sympathy vote but hey suppose it shows we all have different opinions about what is good/bad. SpiderPete 09-11-2008, 20:20 Its a strange Saturday night, both didnt deserve to be in the bottom 2, and going on performance bottom 2 should have been Daniel and Rachel, gawd knows who vote for those two, they seriously need their ears testing. Whats more strange is Diana or whatever the blond one called didnt sing because of voice problems on Tuesday, but she was at a bonfire night on the Wednesday and had no problems with her voice, :suspect::suspect:, surely if she cannot compete she should have gone. Before the sing-off Louis didnt have much good words for Ruth but did for Laura, and then he voted her off, :suspect::suspect: Amyrach 09-11-2008, 20:28 tactical voting i think its called kate55 09-11-2008, 20:58 To be honest although i didnt agree that those should have been in the bottom2 i certainly think Ruth gave the better performance in the sing off. Laura just doesnt do it for me, i hate the kind of 'twang' she has. Thought her version of over the rainbow was rubbish. Just shows she isn't everyones cup of tea. I dont think ruth will win but she showed a lot more fight than laura. Yes Daniel does seem to have got the sympathy vote but hey suppose it shows we all have different opinions about what is good/bad. I feel exactly the same but have to say I did prefer Laura to Rachel. I really thought Rachel was going to be one of the bottom two. Shes changed but why? I havnt read the papers this week but didnt they say something about dont take notice of the papers?? what was said about her? Rich 09-11-2008, 21:32 Meh, X Factor is ALWAYS fixed anyway... They go for whichever girl Simon Cowell fancies, or whichever guy Danni Minogue "would", it's never been about musical talent, it's all about who "looks" like a pop star... That's why the likes of Michelle McManus get so much grief, cos she has the talent, but she doesn't quite have the "looK"... IMO it's all very well looking the part, but when you have the singing voice of a Canary with a throat infection, that don't mean squat. SpiderPete 09-11-2008, 21:34 Meh, X Factor is ALWAYS fixed anyway... They go for whichever girl Simon Cowell fancies, or whichever guy Danni Minogue "would", it's never been about musical talent, it's all about who "looks" like a pop star... That's why the likes of Michelle McManus get so much grief, cos she has the talent, but she doesn't quite have the "looK"... IMO it's all very well looking the part, but when you have the singing voice of a Canary with a throat infection, that don't mean squat. Michelle McManus was Pop Idol not X-Factor DIVA 10-11-2008, 00:32 Whats more strange is Diana or whatever the blond one called didnt sing because of voice problems on Tuesday, but she was at a bonfire night on the Wednesday and had no problems with her voice, :suspect::suspect:, surely if she cannot compete she should have gone. :suspect::suspect: There is no way the girl should have got a ticket to the next round. The two in the sing-off were way better singers than her. The blonde fits the bill, doesn't she - although she's not a singer, she does have a certain je ne sais quoi, call it the X factor, if you like, I'm sure they think she'll sell the most records but to give anyone a ticket to the next round is not on - if I'd phoned and voted, I'd be writing in for my money back now because that is just not fair and makes the whole show an absolute farce. BoroughGal 10-11-2008, 01:38 3 identical threads merged. Kingmaker2 10-11-2008, 01:47 Cowell has got to be one of the smartest people of all time,he will have every one of the finalists signed up and the beauty of it is he has no publicity to pay for and on top of that his pocket is also being lined by the idiots who phone in with their votes,even the xmas number one is guaranteed and thats got be worth a few bob Not to mention how much Cowell as the X Factor creator gets paid for every XFactor show that runs, not only in the UK but in all these countries: Arabia Australia Belgium Columbia Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Greece India Iceland Italy Kazakhstan Morocco Netherlands Norway Portugal Russia Spain Sweden Turkey And lets' not forget Simon Cowell is also the creator of Britain's Got Talent, again he earns revenues from this show, and in many other countires who also have bought the format of the show from Cowell and ITV for their countries too. Cowell of course copied the concept off Simon Fuller ,who created "Pop Idol",and Simon Fuller took Cowell to court over the issue. Cowell not wanting to lose out on his tv goldmine settled out of court with Fuller. So Cowell may actually earn far more from the TV shows rather than his number 1 singles. pitsmoorlad 10-11-2008, 08:06 That's your problem right there. There is no "should" in a show like this. It's decided by public vote. How do you know it's decided by the public ? I firmly believe that the whole thing is a scam to bring in as much money from the phone calls as is humanly possible, just like Big Brother, Celeb Jungle etc. We are lining people's pockets under the delusion that we're actually affecting the decision. In order to get as many calls as possible they have to cater for as wide an audience as possible. As far as the X Factor is concerned it seems that the girl singers are by far the most talented this year, BUT, if they had all girls left in the show they'd miss out on a huge chunk of potential callers. Hence: The young boy with the "cute" factor. The older guy with the heart rending story. The feisty female with the latin look. The girl who's had a rough life on drugs etc but is now trying her best for her kids. The blonde "girl next door". The boyband. The Leona Lewis look-alike Doesn't really matter to Scowell who wins, he'll make a fortune from them, get the Christmas No1 again. Then start it all over again next Spring with "Britain's Got Talent And a Sob Story". Then next Autumn it will once again be "Xtreme sob story Factor". So his annual income is guaranteed and the phone call income pays for the judges and buys Scowell a new Lear Jet & a couple of Rollers. All the other "phone in" shows work on the same principal. Calls mean cash. *Ryan* 10-11-2008, 09:16 For the past three weeks the better talent has gone. 1. Scott went and Daniel stayed 2. Austin Went and Rachel stayed (what the hell)! 3. Laura Went and Ruth stayed. Just seems there keeping all the crap talent this year and getting rid of the good ones Ha it sounds awfully like big brother. Ousetunes 10-11-2008, 09:45 In effect Diana got a bye into the next round. This is unfair and the programme should have been suspended or she should have been automatically 'voted' off. The programme has been ruined by Louis Walsh refusing to play ball. The only singer who technically is streets ahead of everyone else, was voted off in order to remove what was the biggest threat to all the other, lesser singers. The fact that she got voted off at the behest of a pier end karaoke singer and a woman who believes the world owes her a living says it all. Laura was the only singer with the skill to sing a capella twice (I think Eoghan might have done so in an earlier round) and to do this live on stage requires incredible skill and confidence. I know many would say there's no such thing as integrity in a programme like the X Factor, but when someone is leagues ahead of the other competitors and gets voted off by a bloke who supposedly knows what talent is (arguable with Pondlife but the record sales prove otherwise) then yes, one has to question the whole point in producing talent and then nurturing it into something more. In short, Louis Walsh would probably have voted Leona Lewis off. I went to bed with a bad taste and my interest in the X Factor has been lessened greatly. pitsmoorlad 10-11-2008, 14:51 How do you know it's decided by the public ? I firmly believe that the whole thing is a scam to bring in as much money from the phone calls as is humanly possible, just like Big Brother, Celeb Jungle etc. We are lining people's pockets under the delusion that we're actually affecting the decision. In order to get as many calls as possible they have to cater for as wide an audience as possible. As far as the X Factor is concerned it seems that the girl singers are by far the most talented this year, BUT, if they had all girls left in the show they'd miss out on a huge chunk of potential callers. Hence: The young boy with the "cute" factor. The older guy with the heart rending story. The feisty female with the latin look. The girl who's had a rough life on drugs etc but is now trying her best for her kids. The blonde "girl next door". The boyband. The Leona Lewis look-alike Doesn't really matter to Scowell who wins, he'll make a fortune from them, get the Christmas No1 again. Then start it all over again next Spring with "Britain's Got Talent And a Sob Story". Then next Autumn it will once again be "Xtreme sob story Factor". So his annual income is guaranteed and the phone call income pays for the judges and buys Scowell a new Lear Jet & a couple of Rollers. All the other "phone in" shows work on the same principal. Calls mean cash. or to paraphrase it: 1 black girl hard luck story / 1 black girl good looking without a hard luck story / 1 white blonde / 1 latin looking girl / 1 young lad / 1 older bloke / 1 group .. something for everyone, just what Scowell wants. Plus a bit of needle to add an extra edge. Plain Talker 10-11-2008, 16:58 that about sums it up :thumbsup: Himupnorth 10-11-2008, 18:00 Why don't they just automatically kick off the one with the least votes. At least that way people interested might actually vote for their favourite. Absolutely! The results show could be over in about five minutes. "The person going home this week is...", followed by a spot by the guest artiste. I don't think Diana should go to the public vote this Saturday. Instead she should go directly to the "bottom two" as some kind of forfiet. Harsh, but it's an harsh industry she wants to be in. Rich 10-11-2008, 18:42 Michelle McManus was Pop Idol not X-Factor Let's not quibble about the detail mate, it's all basically the same kind of fixed so-called "talent show" pap... And people wonder why the Pubs are full on Saturday nights? :rolleyes: Simple! There's nowt worth watching on telly unless you've got Sky. mistyraven 10-11-2008, 18:43 Laura was brill I was gutted. Will we hear her sing again? SpiderPete 10-11-2008, 18:47 Let's not quibble about the detail mate, it's all basically the same kind of fixed so-called "talent show" pap... And people wonder why the Pubs are full on Saturday nights? :rolleyes: Simple! There's nowt worth watching on telly unless you've got Sky. Do you have details of this so called "fixed", remember this is a X-factor thread, NOT pop idol. The details are everything. :P Kingmaker2 10-11-2008, 21:50 Laura was brill I was gutted. Will we hear her sing again? If she was indeed "brill" then of course you will hear her sing again! Like I said before with the massive exposure she and other "xtra factor" contestants get, not only on tv, but in the tabloids and the internet, anybody that is decent, regardless of whether they win the peoples's vote or not, will be picked up by some label or another, if Sony hasn't grabbed the exclusive rights first. Annoni_mouse 11-11-2008, 06:07 Let's not quibble about the detail mate, it's all basically the same kind of fixed so-called "talent show" pap... And people wonder why the Pubs are full on Saturday nights? :rolleyes: Simple! There's nowt worth watching on telly unless you've got Sky. You're right. I'd much rather watch something legit and not staged. WWE, for example. Anj1364 11-11-2008, 11:14 I agree that the public should decide who goes home. It's much fairer on those people spending their money to actually vote. As it is your act may be in the bottom 2 but not get the lowest vote then get sent home anyway which I think is unfair. Location114 16-11-2008, 13:38 Hi forum just another simple quiery why do people doubt talent shows IE X Factor in particular it seems that if someone isnt voted the best then the people who think they were think its a 'fix' I mean do they not realise that everyone doesnt think the same thing?? If they did it wouldnt be much of a competition at all. xruthx 16-11-2008, 16:03 i think this should be in the entertainments section but here goes anyway. x factor n things like that are fixed from the very start thats what makes em soooooooo crap:( grab a granny rachel will no doubt win this years even tho she looks and sings like a tranny:thumbsup: Location114 17-11-2008, 09:12 oh i apologise for this I meant to open a new thread dont know how Ive managed to post it on yours instead of opening one silly me I apologise again Hi forum just another simple quiery why do people doubt talent shows IE X Factor in particular it seems that if someone isnt voted the best then the people who think they were think its a 'fix' I mean do they not realise that everyone doesnt think the same thing?? If they did it wouldnt be much of a competition at all. Billy Casper 23-11-2008, 09:50 It certainly wasn't a fiddle last night! Nice to see the female equivelent of Mike Tyson voted off!!! :thumbsup: Alien 24-11-2008, 01:38 A load of corporate sh*te with a few songs thrown in. lyndix 24-11-2008, 06:35 It certainly wasn't a fiddle last night! Nice to see the female equivelent of Mike Tyson voted off!!! :thumbsup: :hihi::hihi: I was happy to see her go, she was way too cocky. Diana stoopid hand cheating cow should go next week. The Watcher 24-11-2008, 06:44 :hihi::hihi: I was happy to see her go, she was way too cocky. Diana stoopid hand cheating cow should go next week. Have you listened to the whinging bint (Mrs Mike Tyson) complaining about how the media are responsible for her getting the boot? I thought it because people had finally seen through her and realised what a horrible person she is. Nothing more than a thug with attitude. Good riddance i say. lyndix 24-11-2008, 06:54 Have you listened to the whinging bint (Mrs Mike Tyson) complaining about how the media are responsible for her getting the boot? I thought it because people had finally seen through her and realised what a horrible person she is. Nothing more than a thug with attitude. Good riddance i say. Its her attitude that got her the boot but she`s too arrogant to realise that. She isn`t even that good a singer, she shouted her way through most of the songs. She just seems like a nasty piece of work that blames everyone else for all her failures. Glad she`s gone(can`t tell can you?:D) LJB23 24-11-2008, 11:13 I'm glad Rachael went, although at the sing off I have to admit I thought she sang better than JLS. Diana is starting to get on my nerves a bit now, sometimes her voice sounds like a club singer and her "hand next to her face thing" is drinving me potty! I think JLS will win, purley because a group never has and what with Take That/Boyzone getting back together maybe there is a gap in the market for a new boy band. Rich 24-11-2008, 11:30 Boy Bands?! Pfft.. It's all been done before though, can't we have something new and ORIGINAL in the charts?! :loopy: Simon Cowell is officially an idiot. Annoni_mouse 24-11-2008, 11:47 I'm glad Rachael went, although at the sing off I have to admit I thought she sang better than JLS. Diana is starting to get on my nerves a bit now, sometimes her voice sounds like a club singer and her "hand next to her face thing" is drinving me potty! I think JLS will win, purley because a group never has and what with Take That/Boyzone getting back together maybe there is a gap in the market for a new boy band. The trouble is Louis is turning JLS into Westlife clones. Slow songs, 'Karaoke Classics' I think they are better than that, but the way they are being (mis)handled doesnt fill me with any confidence. the_rudeboy 24-11-2008, 11:50 Simon Cowell is officially an idiot. Shouldn't that be a very rich and successful idiot? LJB23 24-11-2008, 12:09 Boy Bands?! Pfft.. It's all been done before though, can't we have something new and ORIGINAL in the charts?! New and Original would be great but it's not going to be found on the X Factor. It's just manufactured pop. Or pap in some cases! The trouble is Louis is turning JLS into Westlife clones. Slow songs, 'Karaoke Classics' I think they are better than that, but the way they are being (mis)handled doesnt fill me with any confidence. I don't actually think there that good, there certainly not the strongest singers. However I do think they will win regardless of this. I think it will be between them and Alex Annoni_mouse 24-11-2008, 12:23 New and Original would be great but it's not going to be found on the X Factor. It's just manufactured pop. Or pap in some cases! I don't actually think there that good, there certainly not the strongest singers. However I do think they will win regardless of this. I think it will be between them and Alex I would agree that there are better singers, but I think JLS are entertainers at heart, a bit like the old soul groups of the 70's. They also seem to have a bit of personality, unlike most of the other contestents on there. I agree Alex will be in the final - but do we really need another 'big voice' female singer? For me, she'll just be competing with Leona and all the other Mariah Clones :( LJB23 24-11-2008, 12:26 That's why I don't think she'll win it, not after Leona. The Watcher 24-11-2008, 12:41 Boy Bands?! Pfft.. It's all been done before though, can't we have something new and ORIGINAL in the charts?! :loopy: Simon Cowell is officially an idiot. He cant be that much of an idiot. Have you any clue how much the mans worth? Milly658 24-11-2008, 12:45 Maybe the public didn't take to Laura following the rumour of her affair with one of the producers. If anything, that probably prejudiced any chance she had of winning. LJB23 25-11-2008, 10:55 Maybe the public didn't take to Laura following the rumour of her affair with one of the producers. If anything, that probably prejudiced any chance she had of winning. Maybe alot of people don't agree with me but I didn't rate Laura at all. I hated her in the audition, after she'd sung I said to my husband, "well she was c*ap" I thought it just sounded shouty! And I thought she shouted alot in the live performances, either that or I couldn't tell I word she sang, like big band week and all the judges raved about her and I was like "are they listening to the same girl I am, couldnt tell a word she sang" youwhatref 27-11-2008, 19:45 Here in order is how i would put them all, and a few comments 1/. Diane - Quirky and something different. has the likeability 2/. Alexandra - Great voice but will be compared to LL 3/. Ruth - Most improved and was great last week. Simon Cowells next girlfriend!! 4/. JLS - Too arrogant but decent singers 5/. Eughan - Little voice although sang great week previous to last. mistyraven 27-11-2008, 20:16 Do you really think that Ruth is Simon Cowells next girlfriend? youwhatref 27-11-2008, 20:34 Do you really think that Ruth is Simon Cowells next girlfriend? Yep :D She's so his type. Plus he's finished with his ex so maybe give them a few months!! Then again i'm probably way off the mark :hihi: Angel05 28-11-2008, 14:08 Here in order is how i would put them all, and a few comments 1/. Diane - Quirky and something different. has the likeability 2/. Alexandra - Great voice but will be compared to LL 3/. Ruth - Most improved and was great last week. Simon Cowells next girlfriend!! 4/. JLS - Too arrogant but decent singers 5/. Eughan - Little voice although sang great week previous to last. 1/. Diane - Sorry pretty girl, but her voice, sounds like Gismo(sp) from Gremlins, very annoying warble lol 2/. Alexandra - A winner in my eyes along with Laura who sadly departed 3/. Ruth - Can't stand her, like someone else mentioned she thinks she's already a Diva, think again love!! want her out! 4/. JLS - Not interested in another boy band! 5/. Eughan - Too babyfaced, voice not strong enough Personal opinions only!!! Do you really think that Ruth is Simon Cowells next girlfriend? Hmmm! possibly, but only because she looks like his ex and that its been in the papers... (I personally wouldn't go for someone who resembled any of my ex's) However her partner has warned Simon off, as Simon would listen.... Here's a thought, Ruth's partner - "what possibly can Simon offer you that i can't!?" Ruth - "A Singing career, Money, A show biz life style, want me to go on Darling!?" :hihi: liza D 30-11-2008, 09:41 Back to the OPs qu, Yes i do think it's fixed, haven't voted for a couple of years now. I do not know how Diana ( I'm so sweet/sly) :gag: managed to stay in and Ruth got voted out. That girl really gets on my tits, will someone please get her a brush so that she can do something with her ruddy hair. It seems to me that Xfactor is now more of a show for the so-called stars they have on each week to promote their latest album/single. Won't be watching it nxt yr. Too much bitching between the judges, very mundane.:gag: Billy Casper 30-11-2008, 15:28 Ruth out!!! :loopy: And then there was 4....What a joke!!! So we're left with boring, sweet, innocent Diana, who fell off the melody line so many times i'm surprised she's not covered in bruises! Then we have JLS.....When the little frontman learns to project his voice better i'll be able able to judge what i think, until then i can't comment as i can't hear him/them! Alexandra....Fantastic! Always has been!!! should win easily but....... Then we have Eggnog or Owen...How many singers can Cowell fit on the stage next week to compliment him??? Heyesey 30-11-2008, 16:32 Ruth out!!! :loopy: And then there was 4....What a joke!!! It's decided by public poll. How could you expect anything other than a complete joke result? Look at the average intelligence of the voters. Tess 30-11-2008, 21:21 1/. Diana - I think shes got a lovely voice, but to me everything she sings comes out the same, and theres no variation in her voice, whereas the other girls can use different styles and tones with ease. 2/. Alexandra - Strongest vocals out of the lot of them but don't think she will win as shes a bit too "Leona Lewis". 3/. Ruth - Was sad to see her go, I really did want her to win. Stunning figure as well lol. 4/. JLS - The only one who can sing is the cute main singer, the rest dont need to be there. 5/. Eughan - Would do well in the HSM Musical, but not much else. |