View Full Version : 8+ hours kip but still tired- Why?


GazB
24-05-2005, 08:02
Today I feel 100% nackered! I went training last night and it was quite hard because I did mainly bag work, but I went to bed about 10.30pm and got up at 7.15am and as far as I know, I slept right through!

Someone asked me if I could remember all my dreams and I said yes.. They said I must not have slept well then. Is this true?

*Yawn

Avalon
24-05-2005, 08:44
Im not 100% sure but most people say that if you can remember your dreams then you must have woken up? Having said this my sister can always remember her dreams whether she wakes up or not?

D2J
24-05-2005, 09:09
I always found the more sleep I get the more tired I feel :suspect: Yes, Im wired wrong!

Mo
24-05-2005, 09:11
I'm no sleep expert, but being an insomniac for 20 odd years, I've done plenty of reading on it.

You tend to dream in the earliest stages of sleep which are also the deepest stages. As the sleep progresses it becomes lighter in depth. If you can remember your dream then you have woken up in that deeper stage and your sleep has not followed through it's natural progression. Therefore you may have slept all night but will not feel refreshed.

21steve
24-05-2005, 09:11
ive always been led to believe, you have 3 stages of sleep, light, deep and rem and its all about your routine and when you wake up.

if you are woken during deep you will feel tired, but sometimes after only a few hours sleep wake up during light and you feel fine (not 14 hrs later when your napping on the couch)

what do you reckon?

Tracie
24-05-2005, 09:12
I think that's true of most people - if you sleep too much, it just adds to making you feel more tired during the day.

I always remember my dreams too, and nothing sort of an explosion outside can wake me when I'm asleep ;) EDIT - just read Mo's post - eeeek. I clearly need to work on the quality, not quantity of my sleep.

Also, some medication may make it difficult for you to sleep properly, and leave you feeling lethargic during the day.

Greybeard
24-05-2005, 09:12
After training I would think a long soak in a hot bath would be as beneficial as an hour's sleep. Lots of people don't fully relax even when asleep, the muscles across the shoulders and in the back of the neck are the usual culprits.

Avalon
24-05-2005, 09:15
Originally posted by Greybeard
After training I would think a long soak in a hot bath would be as beneficial as an hour's sleep. Lots of people don't fully relax even when asleep, the muscles across the shoulders and in the back of the neck are the usual culprits.

That explains my stiff neck then.... :suspect:

ZEDEX48K
24-05-2005, 09:18
Originally posted by Avalon
That explains my stiff neck then.... :suspect:

you could have a virus or something

Tracie
24-05-2005, 09:29
Originally posted by ZEDEX48K
you could have a virus or something

Funny you say that - I had a stiff neck for weeks, felt really dizzy and then gained a lovely red rash on one arm. When I saw the doctor yesterday he put down to being the result of a virus (I thought the rash on my arm was some kind of eczema). Incidentally I've been absolutely shattered over the last six weeks with it - even if I get a full eight hours sleep I still want to sleep again by about 3pm.

LisaO
24-05-2005, 10:41
Since summer time started at the end of March I've found it very difficult to get a good night's sleep...us Aussies aren't used to the sun coming up at 5am in the morning!!

I've got a shade up but it does nothing, and once that sunlight starts streaming through and wakes me up, any sleep I get after that is only that rubbish dozey sleep that makes you feel more tired than you were before, grr.

Then again, if this is the price I have to pay for evenings where the sun doesn't go down til like 9pm then I'm willing to sacrifice my sleep :)

alchresearch
24-05-2005, 11:04
Try the Sleep Profiler here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sleep/

There's also some really good advice on sleeping.

I think it says you shouldn't do rigorous exercise before bedtime.

21steve
24-05-2005, 11:22
Oppps, do rigorous exercise before bedtime

alchresearch
24-05-2005, 11:29
Just found the details here:

Exercise regularly

Regular exercise is a great way to improve your sleep. Just be careful not to do it close to bed time as exercise produces stimulants that stop the brain from relaxing quickly.

This being the case, exercising in the morning is an excellent way to wake up the body. Going for a run or doing some aerobics releases stimulants into the body, which perks you up.

D_A_V
24-05-2005, 20:17
Another reason given by my doctor was, when people eat close to their bed time, the energy used up by your body in digesting the food would have gone to your muscles. Therefore people who eat very late and sleep immediately afterwards, would usually wake up feeling tired.

Hels
26-05-2005, 16:50
There are quite a few reasons why people feel tired even after apparantly sleeping for a reasonable amount of time.

And contrary to popular saying - you can't 'catch up' on your sleep!

If it happens regularly, try to prepare yourself for a good nights sleep by:

* not stimulating your body or mind immediately prior to going to bed (no quiz books or tv)

* avoid caffene drinks for at least a couple of hours before going to bed

* bananas contain something that apparantly helps you sleep, so try to eat one early evening

* make your bedroom as stimulant free as possible - no tv or computers in there

* have a relaxing warm bath (not hot)

* If anything is worrying you or on your mind, write it down then you don't have to worry about it in your sleep

* Lavender is also sleep inducing and you can buy lavender oil and also Radox do a lavender sleep spray which you spray on you pillow and bedding

* try to make sure you have a comfortable bed and pillow

As you get older (40+) you will find that you may wake around 4am - not really sure why this is? Also, the natural body clock means you will have a 'tired' phase around 3pm - this is quite normal.

If your problem persists, or you have other symptoms that concern you, then you ought to visit your GP who can rule out any underlying problems.

Sweet dreams!
:thumbsup:

madowl
26-05-2005, 17:20
Dont want to worry you but, i had trouble with sleep 10hours and still knacked, it turned out that i had a under active thyroid!