Just a quick question, why do people have so much negative views of Rotherham on here and why is there such a rivalry between Sheffield & Rotherham, is it because back in the early 1900's Rotherham rejected becoming a part of Sheffield or something?

When I first moved to S Yorks in early 90s I lived in R'ham as that's where boyfriend was from.

It's friendly enough

I personally found it a bit dull. Lacking in things going on that I was interested in. I prefer Sheffield as there's a wider variety of people here.

Perhaps the local rivalry is the same rivalry the country over betwwen local towns? My hometown is Hartlepool - whose main rival is Middlesbrough

Newcastle's main rival is Sunderland etc

be glad its not leeds your talking about doesn't matter where you go there will be a them and us situation its human nature

be glad its not leeds your talking about doesn't matter where you go there will be a them and us situation its human nature

haveing spent plenty of time in leeds i find it a lot like sheffield the people or just like us filth:hihi:

i was born and brought up in Rotherham and still live there,but i am the first to admit that its a dump,

I was Rotherham born and bread and moved away at 16.

It's a dump, dirty, boring and getting more like Roysten Vasey every day.

It's just a smaller version of Sheffield lol.

I was Rotherham born and bread and moved away at 16.

It's a dump, dirty, boring and getting more like Roysten Vasey every day.

it sure is its not a place to be proud of.crap council verging on corrupt,never see the police unless of course your tax as expired.this must be one of the only towns in the uk run by a labour controlled coucil that are conservatives lol.even the local mps dont even do anything constructive.

it sure is its not a place to be proud of.crap council verging on corrupt,never see the police unless of course your tax as expired.this must be one of the only towns in the uk run by a labour controlled coucil that are conservatives lol.even the local mps dont even do anything constructive.

The council in Rotherham is by far better than Sheffield's sorry excuse of a council. I have lived in both places and have to say, without bias, that RMBC do a lot more in terms of what you get for your council tax etc. Not sure who your MP is, but I am in the Wentworth ward and I have never had any trouble getting my MP to respond to my correspondence relating to my views on various parliamentry issues.

There isn't much in the way of things to do in rotherham.The town centre is rubbish ,no wonder most of the ppl there seem to shop in shef or donny.

The council in Rotherham is by far better than Sheffield's sorry excuse of a council. I have lived in both places and have to say, without bias, that RMBC do a lot more in terms of what you get for your council tax etc. Not sure who your MP is, but I am in the Wentworth ward and I have never had any trouble getting my MP to respond to my correspondence relating to my views on various parliamentry issues.

just look at all the expenses the local councillors claim they are published in the advertiser.not sure what RMBC do in the line of services that are better than anywhere else,I'm disabled and have received no help from RMBC.sorry to say i wouldn't pay any of them in buttons.the only thing this council is concerned about are themselves,look at all the outings the councillors go on.
just go back a little bit in time when this council were one of the worst in the country nothing has changed at all.deserted town centre £125,000 spent on the J. Oliver shop look at the tv in all saints square.who watches that ?.
must have been a pal of someone on the council who supplied it.

Sheffield is a par under Rotherham. I know a really decent Glam person from there that puts most Sheffielders to shame.

Glamrock is a decent and honest man and he is born and bred unlike many can say in Sheffield who frequent this forum and their apologists.

Rotherham has born a few like him thanks to the likes of him, he is not a sheep and neither are his children. I can't say the same about most Sheffielders I know.

Most of you Sheffielders are the sheep governed by the influx and because you can't control it... You try to explain it away and make it seem somehow normal... you are the dumping ground for the worlds worst and you actually welcome it.

Somalia spring to mind?

Rotherham has got some lovely countryside.

Rotherham has got some lovely countryside.

That, I'll agree with. :thumbsup:

Just a quick question, why do people have so much negative views of Rotherham on here and why is there such a rivalry between Sheffield & Rotherham, is it because back in the early 1900's Rotherham rejected becoming a part of Sheffield or something?

I don't think Rotherham objected to being a part of the dumping bucket that Sheffield is as much as any other outer area did at the time and still does. If you have the mentality of a Sheffielder then you will encourage economic immigration as they do as they have so much wealth to splash around whilst taking the mickey out of more affluent and intelligent areas around them.

I think the ex-coal mines are giving off their gasses.

It's just normal local rivalry, as typified by the comments of a few on this thread.

Why has a thread about negative comments/views of Rotherham turned into a race/hatred thread? :huh: Nothing is sacred anymore and I, for one, am getting pig sick of the people of this forum who have nothing better to do than spout their evil, twisted and ill informed views on us all. Lalalalalala... I'm not listening!!!

Anyway, back to the true purpose of this thread :roll: I believe most of the negative views are Rotherham envy. It is a well known psychological condition here in South Yorkshire, everyone wants something (i.e. Rotherham in this case) they havent got :D :D :D :D

Glamrock is a decent and honest man and he is born and bred unlike many can say in Sheffield who frequent this forum and their apologists.


Are you him or just his gimp?

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It's the weekend people, relax :) Oh and stay on topic too ;)

Sheffield is a par under Rotherham. I know a really decent Glam person from there that puts most Sheffielders to shame.

Glamrock is a decent and honest man and he is born and bred unlike many can say in Sheffield who frequent this forum and their apologists.

Rotherham has born a few like him thanks to the likes of him, he is not a sheep and neither are his children. I can't say the same about most Sheffielders I know.

Most of you Sheffielders are the sheep governed by the influx and because you can't control it... You try to explain it away and make it seem somehow normal... you are the dumping ground for the worlds worst and you actually welcome it.

Somalia spring to mind?

To summarise - Rotherhams great because Glamrock happened to be born there.
Sheffield is rubbish cos there's too many darkies.
Oh, the incisive wit and political analysis. Sometimes it's all too much.

I lived for 13 years in Rotherham, after 20+ years in Doncaster, and now live in Sheffield. Only Barnsley to go eh! :o

I lived in a pleasant area - Bramley, with nice neighbours - that was fine. However, I worked for the council in their housing department. That was interesting. :rolleyes: In my opinion, Sheffield is miles ahead. In Rotherham, as long as they are of one party - they will nearly always be re-elected - so the council rarely get challenged. (I don't think that makes for healthy democracy whether its Conservative, Lib/Dem or Labour) The only real change has been the election of 2 BNP councillors - strangely that isn't displayed on their website? :huh: Grim Reaper's comparison to Royston Vasey is pretty accurate. ;) Although, as I wasn't born & bred in any part of South Yorkshire, I suppose my opinions won't hold water for some.
http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/graphics/YourCouncil/_Council+and+Democracy.htm

Lovely countryside - agreed, but then all of South Yorkshire can lay claim to that.

To summarise - Rotherhams great because Glamrock happened to be born there.
Sheffield is rubbish cos there's too many darkies.
Oh, the incisive wit and political analysis. Sometimes it's all too much.

Well thats got to be thre truth anyway;)
Rotherham like all other towns and cities has its good and bad points but to the people born there ,like Sheffielders,Barnsley etc it is and always will be home,Iv lived here all my life except for short times in ,Pitsmoor,and Doncaster,enjoyed myself in both places and wouldnt hesitate to move there again if I had to but Rotherham will always be home.I am surprised by Johnphilips comments ,I have known John for around 50 years and thought I knew him ,he never gave me the impression that he would stick around anywhere he didnt like,you are not forced to stay anywhere you dislike that much,I know I certainly wouldnt.I think the truth his he would be lost elsewhere.
P.S Iv no idea who this Smarty Pants is but it seems as though I have at least one fan on here

Hi Glamrock im a bit too old and knackerd now to move away but i regret not doing so.although the people of rotherham are as good as anywhere else.its the town itself that is failing.
btw glamrock nice to see you are still here mate.about time you got your arse up to see me

The council in Rotherham is by far better than Sheffield's sorry excuse of a council. I have lived in both places and have to say, without bias, that RMBC do a lot more in terms of what you get for your council tax etc. Not sure who your MP is, but I am in the Wentworth ward and I have never had any trouble getting my MP to respond to my correspondence relating to my views on various parliamentry issues.


That's because your the only one that writes to him...:hihi::hihi:

Hi Glamrock im a bit too old and knackerd now to move away but i regret not doing so.although the people of rotherham are as good as anywhere else.its the town itself that is failing.
btw glamrock nice to see you are still here mate.about time you got your arse up to see me
You'll have to PM me your address..it would help;)

You'll have to PM me your address..it would help;)

This is to much:gag:...it's like watching the bow scene from Titanic.

I wish you both well though:love:

Well what do you expect - what a dive!!!:gag: - KIDDIN'!
But Roth' is getting really paranoid these days - we've got mates over there - love the market - used to moor up on Eastwood lock - and as somebody else said folks are friendly. In fact, Roth is like a little bro' to most Sheffielders - bet that really winds you up!
Rotherhams ok - if you don't like walking!! I'm kidding - just kidding!!

I just can't stand small towns.

Rotherham's not the worst, but it's not on the top of my list of places to spend time.

This is to much:gag:...it's like watching the bow scene from Titanic.

I wish you both well though:love:
Whats up you got no mates?

Plus Points:

Parkgate Retail Park-Much more enjoyable place to shop than Meadowhall in my opinion

People are friendly.

Negatives:

Town Centre a horrible.

Very few decent places to eat or drink.

Seems to lack the community feel you get in many areas of Sheffield.

It's just a smaller version of Sheffield lol.

only worse :thumbsup:

I live in Rotherham and it's ok. Yeah it's not Sheffield but you have everything you need. Personally I live next door to a lovely village and it's a nice quiet area. I believe there are areas with lots of antisocial behaviour- mainly Eastwood. Me and my ex got beat up by Asian youths one day, because they cottoned on we were 2 women living together in a 1 bedroom flat. The police did nothing. They don't care, too scared to be called rascist.

I don't go into Rotherham town centre unless I need to go into my bank branch or go to a butchers etc. I buy everything else from supermarkets. Not much in Rotherham tbh, but you can't complain at £1.10 to park in the multistorey for a few hours. Parking in Sheffield is much more expensive, in the NCP's etc. I don't dislike Sheffield city centre, as I don't dislike Rotherham town centre. I try to avoid centre, why go when you can get things elsewhere? I don't shop for clother very often but when I do I brave a trip to Meadowhall or Parkgate. I really hate chooping for clothes.
The council leave a lot to be desired, Especially the new housing repairs service, and the contractors they have employed.

I now live in Rotherham, after spending 20 years in sheffield, and i have got to say, i would not move back to sheffield, in my opinion Rotherham is much cleaner, i live in a lovely and quiet area, no trouble.

Much prefer Parkgate retail Park, never go to Meadowhell.

I was born and lived in sheffield for years and moved out to rotherham 15 years ago (just on the border of sheff/rotherham) .... i had have the countryside on my doorstep, a much easier access to rotherham town centre (and a hell of a lot easier/cheaper to park) and have retail world close by, I do live in a village, so ive got the 'friendliness/village feel' here.

I personally think sheffield town centre is a horrid place to shop now, hard to access, full of beggers and really expensive to park, on the other hand its much better than rotherham for nightlife/theatres etc.

Does it really matter where someone lives as long as their happy? Rotherham/sheffield/barnsley/donny etc are only minutes away by car anyway.

Aparently the 'hip places' to live are now sheff centre, back when i was a kid the only people that lived there were high rise council flat tennents, now its a hot spot! i personally would hate to live in the hussle and bussle, i much prefer the countyside, but it wouldnt do for us all to have the same aspirations now would it!

i lived in rotherhm until 4 years ago, it has more of a community feel than sheffield does (obviously due to size). To me rotherham will always be 'home'. Rotherham is getting better, went to retail park yesterday and its lovely! Also the new swimming pool/gym is lovely. Sheffield will always have bigger and better things as its a city and rotherham is only a town. But having bigger and better things doesnt make it any better!

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...Well having bigger and better things is certainly one reason why Sheffield is better.

The other is that bigger cities tend to produce or attract more talented people.
Ah but the trouble there is that in a bigger city the negative aspects are also greatly increased.Crime for example ,you dont see gun,knife or drug crime in Rotherham on the scale of Sheffield.

surely it depends on what area of sheffield or rotherham you live, theres some lovely places in both .... and a lot of seriously dodgy places i wouldnt even travel through

Im from Wentworth in Rotherham, its a great place to live but not much to do and also I have to be honst the schools are quite poor in Rotherham.

Ah but the trouble there is that in a bigger city the negative aspects are also greatly increased.Crime for example ,you dont see gun,knife or drug crime in Rotherham on the scale of Sheffield.

Sheffield has really good crime figures. Can't remember where to find the stats but I'd wager that Rotherham is far worse than Sheffield. Don't most of the kids wear stab vests to school in some parts of Rotherham?

Also, as Pinklady says, crime tends to be localised to bad areas anyway and there's generally no reason to go to those areas. It's the same in Manchester, there's nothing in say Moss Side or the rough bits of Stockport that you can't find in a safer place.

Sheffield has really good crime figures. Can't remember where to find the stats but I'd wager that Rotherham is far worse than Sheffield. Don't most of the kids wear stab vests to school in some parts of Rotherham?

Also, as Pinklady says, crime tends to be localised to bad areas anyway and there's generally no reason to go to those areas. It's the same in Manchester, there's nothing in say Moss Side or the rough bits of Stockport that you can't find in a safer place.
Never heard that one..unlike parts of Sheffield there is not an area in Rotherham thats really unsafe

Hold on, my daughter attends a sheffield school due to my choice. Sheffield schools are academicly better however Rotherham have a lower exclusion rate and less violence within the schools..... all depends i think

Hmm, I used to date a teacher who told me that.

Can't remember what school she worked at, but it was somewhere in Rotherham and they had regular knife incidents.

Look how many incidents there have been in Sheffield Secondary Schools a couple in-particular, I have only lived her a short while and know of 4 serious incidents.... In Sheffield there are currently no spaces for secondary exclusions..... how worrying, (smiling that my daughter will be attending a good school)..

Don't most of the kids wear stab vests to school in some parts of Rotherham?.

Ive never heard of that before :confused:

Rotherham can be well proud of one of its musicians, Lynsey Marsh, principal clarinettist with the Halle, who made her Sheffield debut as a soloist on Friday evening (7 Nov) at the Irwin Mitchell Oval Hall. Lynsey gave a sound and accomplished rendition of Mozart's concerto, played with a basset clarinet. She was well supported by the Halle, whose leader, Lyn Fletcher, hails from Doncaster. Well played ladies.