"This should be seen as a trial run. Iraq is seen as an extremely easy and totally defenseless target. It is assumed, probably correctly, that the society will collapse, that the soldiers will go in and the U.S. will be in control, and will establish the regime of its choice and military bases. They will then go on to the harder cases that will follow. The next case could be the Andrean region, it could be Iran, it could be others.

Noam Chomsky interviewed by Frontline
April 02, 2003

You choose (http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-oil-reserves-countries-map.html)

Canada would be the obvious target, loads of oil and close by.

Canada is the third-largest producer of natural gas and the ninth-largest producer of crude oil in the world.

The upstream sector is the largest single private sector investor in Canada.

In 2004, the oil and gas industry contributed an estimated $18 billion to government revenues in the form of royalty payments, bonus payments and income taxes.

Their crude oil and natural gas trade surplus contributed 56 per cent of Canada’s merchandise trade balance in 2004.

They produce 22% of North America’s crude oil and natural gas but account for only 10% of its consumption.

No need.

The expected invasion of Iran bas been discussed many times before, including here:

Blair and the Iran Dilemma (http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?postid=264312)

I was not talking about Blair.

I have to say that Iran will probably be the next target of the bush administration.
2 reasons for this,first its got the oil the US is going to need in the future and second because its what the israelis want.
The jews want to be the big boys in the region unchallenged by any arab states to do exactly as they wish.
And as some will know the jews control the US and the jewish lobby is very strong over their,the US and Israel are responsible for a lot of what is wrong in the world and especilally the middle east.
I for one hope that if they do go into Iran they pay a a heavy price for their stupidity.

I hope they don't attack Iran!

I'm half Iranian and my dad's side of the family live over there. :(

Jews "control" the US? Oh please, now we're getting into urban legend territory on this thread already.
Roy, please don't drop silly comments like that in because some foolish people who don't do their research properly could believe them, making themselves even dumber in the process.

It doesn't really matter what we *think* because when the time is right to attack Iran, a dodgy dossier will be produced and we will all believe the government of the day (read USA !) ....

Then bombs away.....

Baa BAA baa BAA !!!!!

Threats to world peace, the USA, have several targets on thier "to do" list and Iran is amongst the top two. Americas imperialistic greed to dominate every inch of the planet will hopefully be their downfall. America will continue to use the "they cant have nukes" card to justify an invasion, but its all about oil in the end. With American backed war criminals Israel on their doorstep, Iran have the right to develop nuclear technology, both as a source of power and defence.
The Jewish lobby may not control America but it does have an extremely strong grip.
Originally the US justified sanctions against Iran on the grounds it sponsored Hezbollah, despite the fact that Hezbollah were only a threat to Israel. Now they can justify more sanctions and action against Iran using the nuclear power threat, the American poeple will be more likely to back Bush if they think they could be targetted by Iranian missiles.
Iran supply oil to China, Japan, India and pakistan to name but a few. So controlling Iran will put the US in an extremely powerful position.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
Bush won't attack Iran.

He can't.

Iran isn't surrounded on 3 sides by US airbases.
Iran hasn't been under a punitive regime of sanctions and bombing for 12 years.
Iran will put up a fight if attacked. A real fight. Bush would have to bring back the draft and alienate the USA from the world community to invade Iran.
No one knows where they have all their weapons, war resources etc.

on the other hand

Iran will have the bomb soon.

Iran has the highest level of 'pro-western feeling' (if that can be quantified) in the younger generation than ever before.
The theocratic rule is more despised than ever.

Iran may be on the verge of a popular democratic revolution in its own right.

Either way, Iran will have the bomb. Bush has to accept that fact and deal with it, as does everyone else in the region & the wider world

I may have to eat my words.

Originally posted by AJ sheffield
the American poeple will be more likely to back Bush if they think they could be targetted by Iranian missiles.
Iran supply oil to China, Japan, India and pakistan to name but a few. So controlling Iran will put the US in an extremely powerful position.

I think the above mentioned would also have something to say about that also.

The US are already in an extremely powerful position.

It can be very easily argued that this could be the most dangerous time since the Cuban missile crisis, and the most dangerous time in human history.



"The National Security Strategy declared that the United States, alone, has the right to carry out 'preventive war' _ not pre-emotive _ using military force to eliminate a perceived threat, even if invented or imagined."

Sunday 7th September 2003
There' good reason to fear the U.S.
Toronto Star
Noam Chomsky




Well so long as we don't have a gung-ho Texan with blood stained hands on the button, then I will not mind so much :help:

Originally posted by royjames
..... the jews control the US ....

So it’s not just Muslims you fear, that’s quite a healthy streak of anti-Semitism running through you their.

You couldn’t let me in on what startling information you’ve based this extensive diagnosis upon, and if you say they protocols I think I might wet myself.

Anyway if the papers are to believed it’s Argentina next on the list.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14135&highlight=iran

Noam Chomsky is hardly the most reliable source of the activity of the US Military and their future plans!

Syria would seem more likely....just to goad Iran into reacting and therefore justifying US intervention there by the end of 2006.

Originally posted by royjames
The jews want to be the big boys in the region unchallenged by any arab states to do exactly as they wish.
And as some will know the jews control the US and the jewish lobby is very strong over their,the US and Israel are responsible for a lot of what is wrong in the world and especilally the middle east.
I for one hope that if they do go into Iran they pay a a heavy price for their stupidity.

Blaming things on the jews....

Now which 1920s/1930s/1940s extremist right wing group does this remind you of?

Originally posted by Hook
Noam Chomsky is hardly the most reliable source of the activity of the US Military and their future plans!

Well if you take the time to watch 'Fog of War', as an example, you can compare compare some of Chomsky's comments with those of Robert McNamara.

They can easily be seen as unilateral.

Originally posted by venger
Well if you take the time to watch 'Fog of War', as an example, you can compare compare some of Chomsky's comments with those of Robert McNamara.

They can easily be seen as unilateral.

Noam Chomsky is a linguist who used his popular with his cognitive theory to make some waves in the US about his political views, and recently his anti-bush stance.

While he's a great linguist I don't really rate his political views. But I'm sure that's all about opinion! I don't expect those who disagree with me, to agree that Noam Chomsky isn't all that well informed!