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skinggdonn
19-10-2008, 01:26
Hello there,
I am tea total.! and I have gone out tonight to celebrate a friends birthday. I have just had the WORST night out in my whole entire life. I have never ever witnessed such racism before...

I entered the LEAD MILL nightclub for the first time in my life. I feel that I am a respected citizen (as a doctor and furthermore as a person) and as I entered looked in my purse for my change (to save the desk person getting it), as I did so, someone grabbed my scarf, so I grabbed it back and said ay thats my scarf!

I then entered the club and went to the toilet. As I left the toilet 4 bouncers jumped on me and said they needed to talk to me outside... I agreed and followed them... when I got outside they informed me that I had assaulted the girl who worked on the door and "Clawed her" I said if they didn't want to have me in their club that's fine but as I was worried I had "clawed her" could I please see what I had done?

The bouncer said no... So I ( a completely sober and tea total person) said " could I please speak to the manager? I was informed this person was the manager...

My friend then intervened and asked what was wrong? The "manager" than asked her to "SPEAK ENGLISH"

THIS IS RACISM!!!!!!!!! english is charlotte's first language!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes she was born in WALES and has an accent but ENGLISH IS HER FIRST LANGUAGE!!!!



I know this sounds like an idle threat but upon speaking to char it has happened before and how would you feel?


this bouncer was on a complete power trip and what makes me more angry was upon speaking to the police they made out that this type of behavior was acceptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry but I will NEVER step foot in that club again. I feel that the bouncers were completely irresponsible and I will never trust them again. TO THE PLUG OR DQ I SAY!!!!!!!!!!


LEADMILL IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER **** HOLE DIVE AND IF YOU CANNOT TRUST THE BOUNCERS WHO CAN YOU TRUST???

BoroughGal
19-10-2008, 01:30
I've had a problem with a bouncer at the Leadmill before. I would definitely complain in writing.

beansforyou
19-10-2008, 08:55
Asking someone to speak english isn't racist, it's asking someone to speak the native langauge, or used to mean 'I can't understand what your saying'.

Only someone not from England would think it was racist.

Dave650
19-10-2008, 09:35
Leadmill's bouncers are renowned for being utter d*cks.

Rich
19-10-2008, 10:15
This is why I don't go clubbing, never have, and never will. Bouncers who think they're hard, and stupid overpriced drinks.

I'm sorry this happened to the OP.

rosaespanola
19-10-2008, 12:24
Asking someone to speak english isn't racist, it's asking someone to speak the native langauge, or used to mean 'I can't understand what your saying'.

Only someone not from England would think it was racist.

Whether or not it's racist, it's undeniably obnoxious and unnecessary, and certainly not the way I'd expect to be spoken to as a customer. If you mean "I didn't hear what you were saying" then there are any number of ways you can politely ask the person to repeat themselves.
However, I'm from England and I find this to be a racist comment from the bouncer, and therefore a fairly moronic comment from you. Are you trying to say it's OK for bouncers to treat customers like this?

Ghostrider
19-10-2008, 12:30
Most of the bouncers there cant speak english themselves..

Dave650
19-10-2008, 12:32
no they speak fluent caveman though.

Dave650
19-10-2008, 12:38
If you do write to the direct them to www.sheffieldforum.co.uk and tell the to do a search and trawl through all the negative comments about their door staff.
I'm tempted to make a poll.

Hugh_Dannatt
19-10-2008, 14:53
Do it, I'll vote. Countless times I have had run-ins with them, they're absolutely arseholes.

As soon as the music went downhill 18 months ago I've not been once since and I'm a student!

Dave650
19-10-2008, 15:07
Hmm I'm not sure whether the forum allows blatant naming and shaming and I also don;t know what sort of poll to make. 'Where's the worst door staff in sheffield?' or does that have too many options or 'opinions on leadmill doorstaff'. I do think most are w*nkers though. I've witnessed them do it loads, I saw someone get mugged (so did they) just before he entered the club his mates checked on him and cleaned him up then got in the queue with us, waited ages and they refused him entry. Despite the fact it wasn't his fault....why let him queue up?! Various other instances like forgetting your not allowed drinks outside and having them snatched out your hand and poured out etc etc. etc. They're just bullys bored at work.

Solstice
19-10-2008, 18:53
The security who looks to be more senior in years, not very tall, follically challenged and of err.. broad build (mainly in the lower torso region) is allegedly renowned for being obnoxious and prejudiced, I think he may have some issues, an old-dog-new-dog inferiority complex perhaps. I actually think the security there are mentioned in an Artic Monkeys song

I emailed and complained once about him, but it fell on deaf ears - we were a group on a reunion and included solicitors, a criminologist, a personal licence holder and a an MP (military police) - I think that place will finally sign its own death sentence and perhaps be re-born.

CarlSheff
19-10-2008, 20:58
The leadmill doorstaff or upthere if not worse than the ones at embrace nightclub. The bull dog looking one has ot be the worse followed bu the chap with grey hair. Neither can i say this is the first and i doubt the last thread on here about the doorstaff at leadmill.

Plug nightclub, now they have what i consider to be one of the best doorstaff in Sheffield along with West Street Live.

Dave650
19-10-2008, 21:03
Yeah that's what I call him lol, bulldog one.
Plugs bouncers aren't too bad there's a decent broadish white bloke I had a laugh with, a couple on the front are knuckledraggers. RSVP doorstaff are very unfriendly too. But vodka revs are good :thumbsup:

honeyb35
19-10-2008, 21:25
I had an incident with the bouncers at the leadmill a few years ago, I had my drink spiked and passed out in the toilets, they forced the door and threw me out in the street. Luckily I had a friend with me, but the bouncers refused to call an ambulance, or keep an eye on me whilst she went to get our other friends out of the club. They automatically assumed I was drunk, which is possibly true of a lot of people, but not everyone (I was actually 24 at the time, not 18 like they thought! I also had only had a couple of drinks as I was breastfeeding my baby son and would not have drank any more than that). They also barred one of my friends for having a go at them about it all. Anyway, the ambulance came after my friend managed to borrow someones mobile to phone them, I was rushed to hospital and had my stomach pumped. The nurse on the ward told me she didn't think it was alcohol due to my reaction but nothing could be proven.

skinggdonn
19-10-2008, 21:43
I totally agree with the comments about the plug bouncers, they are sound and you feel alot safer there because of that. I definitely will not be going back to leadmill.

I normally go to plug or DQ anyway and it will stay that way! leadmill is loosing a lot of popularity, and I've noticed that bands don't go there as much as they used to either...

I have never in my life experienced anything like the trouble they caused me last night. Thank you all for your support

Stereophonic
21-10-2008, 10:08
Doorman you got an attitide.

I'm from England and I think that it is racist.

nicks54
04-02-2009, 22:11
I had an experience almost identical to the original poster's story and the previously mentioned doorman was involved. However, I was accused of interfering with a barmaid. Now, despite my sheer disbelief at first, I was happy to discuss it; point out that perhaps there might have been some confusion somewhere down the line. I myself had been in the club the best part of ten minutes, and hadn't actually gotten beyond the main entrance once aside as I was waiting for some people further behind in the line to get in, so the notion of me even coming into shouting distance of a member of the bar staff was impossible. Although, I did think; okay, maybe a genuine mistake , maybe someone else was responsible and in some confusion a bouncer had misjudged the member of staff pointing someone out.

But, no, wouldn't listen at all. Was very difficult and judgemental and to be quite be honest, seemed to enjoy the whole thing.

I immediately, once home, drafted a letter of complaint to the manager. I was perfectly sober at the time as well, so within an hour or so of leaving the club I'd emailed off my complaint.

I received a reply relatively soon I suppose, defending the door staff's actions, relying on that old line of following procedure. That in itself, fair enough I think, but I just couldn't get over the fact that I really didn't do anything of the sort, and felt, with simply checking the CCTV, the fact I hadn't budged from the same spot for my entire (albeit short stay) in the place would prove my innocence. I brought this up with the manager in subsequent correspondence, first by asking if he could check contact the alleged victim of an assault (the member of bar staff) and look over the CCTV of me being removed to prove their had been a misidentification. Apparently, I was identified as the culprit. Although, that email came a bit too quickly after my suggestion of it...if you know what I mean.

Anyway, my this point, I was massively ****ed off. I'd been of sound mind, not intoxicated in the slightest and had a very vivid recollection of the night in question. So, feeling very ****** off I sent a further email to the club and told them I was prepared to take this further and that I'd be contacting the police and discussing what would need to be obtained from CCTV to work this out.

After that, I quickly got an email back saying they were willing to forgive and forget and tried to fob me off with some crappy offer of putting me on the guest list and a drinks voucher for a night of my choice as I clearly thought I'd been mistreated. Now...perhaps I'm being too cynical here, but surely, after pushing this enough, after having a member of bar staff allegedly point me out after this assault, surely they'd be steady enough in their case to not have a problem with further involvement and most certainly wouldn't want someone assaulting a member of staff returning to their establishment being fussed over.

Basically....I think the doorman are ******s to be quite honest, judging by the OP and things I've heard since, it sounds like a little ritual they have to liven up the night and it appears that the other members of staff are more than willing to cover for them.

Doorman89
04-02-2009, 23:09
Plug bouncers are nice guys :-p

not wanted
04-02-2009, 23:40
Do you work at Plug

mister_tmg
05-02-2009, 10:23
Yes, Leadmill bouncers are horrible, barred me and were then violent with me. Wrote a letter of complaint but never got anything back.

Ousetunes
05-02-2009, 11:24
Advice: avoid the hole.

brianthedog
05-02-2009, 12:04
Advice: avoid the hole.

Yep, inclined to agree now. Shame as it used to be a great place, but the bouncers make their presence felt a little bit too much now. Plus, I'm sure they frequently play the same mix tape on a loop - very poor.

It's amazing as surely the management are aware of people's opinions of their door staff, yet the idiots continue to act in the same way.

Last time I went, I got thrown out - physically - for being drunk. I pointed out that I wasn't, and got threatend for being 'lippy'. Amusing point to the story was I was driving that evening and hadn't touched a drop. Someone else was busy calling them something that night - it rhymed with anchors - and I'm inclined to agree.

Sharp87
05-02-2009, 12:52
Never had a problem with the bouncers at Leadmill. Respect them and don't act like a ****** up idiot. Its their call who they let in, if they don't want to let you in then get on with your life instead of demanding answers as they have no reason to give them to you. Even if you are sober, makes no difference, tough.

brianthedog
05-02-2009, 12:54
Never had a problem with the bouncers at Leadmill. Respect them and don't act like a ****** up idiot. Its their call who they let in, if they don't want to let you in then get on with your life instead of demanding answers as they have no reason to give them to you. Even if you are sober, makes no difference, tough.

Respect knuckle dragging violent morons? No thanks...

And as a paying customer, it's reasonable to expect an explanation as to why you're being dragged out of somewhere - even if you are drunk.

Sharp87
05-02-2009, 12:57
I have never had any violence directed towards me. 99% of the time people will bring the violence on themselves and the bouncers will use reasonable force to remove trouble causing punters from the premesis and ensure they do not return. Before you think it, i'm not a bouncer btw.

Why should they give you an explanation if they turf you out? Its their call on who is in the club, R.O.A.R. Especially if you are drunk.

brianthedog
05-02-2009, 13:00
Why should they give you an explanation if they turf you out? Its their call on who is in the club, R.O.A.R. Especially if you are drunk.

So you feel it's acceptable for them to go round and sling whoever they want out, regardless of whether the customer has done anything wrong? Only by telling people why they're being thrown out will it avoid threads like this being levelled at them. Either that, or refund the customer's entrance fee...

Sharp87
05-02-2009, 13:10
So you feel it's acceptable for them to go round and sling whoever they want out, regardless of whether the customer has done anything wrong? Only by telling people why they're being thrown out will it avoid threads like this being levelled at them. Either that, or refund the customer's entrance fee...

No but i'm not going to get a hernia over being turfed out of Leadmill, christ. Got more important things in life to worry about than drafting letters when I get removed from a nightclub and losing the £4 or whatever I paid to get in.

mister_tmg
05-02-2009, 18:33
They still don't have the right to treat people like dirt.

Jen Gelfling
24-03-2009, 11:51
Not had trouble with the bouncers there, but the last time I went to the Leadmill I had my leather jacket stolen from the cloakroom! Went at the end of the night to collect it and was told that it wasn't there - they had no idea where it had gone but I reckon either the idiotic cloakroom attendant gave it to someone who described it even though they didn't have a ticket, or else they stole it themselves. Complained and had several conversations with the management but they refuse to reimburse me. Can't believe they can get away with charging you money to look after your belongings and then refuse to admit responsibility when they go missing! Shocking. Definitely won't be going back and my advice to you if you're going there is take an old jacket you don't care about cos the staff aren't to be trusted!

Jenjenz
24-03-2009, 12:10
I've got a friend who used to suffer from fainting attacks (not sure if she knew the medical reason at the time) and in the Leadmil a few years ago, she turned to us and said she felt she was about to faint so as we took her outside, she was rapidly becoming weaker and despite us all insisting she wasn't drunk (she really wasn't!) and that she felt faint, the bouncers just wouldn't listen and virtually tossed her to one side to just get on with fainting!

I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt in that they've probably witnessed tons of drunk people passing out but it was frustrating for us given the fact that she wasn't just ****** and we were all compos mentis too!!

Paul2412
24-03-2009, 12:24
I've never had trouble with the bouncers there before. You probably didn't do many favours by screaming racism because someone asked your friend to speak the native language.

Lesterfan
24-03-2009, 21:15
Not had trouble with the bouncers there, but the last time I went to the Leadmill I had my leather jacket stolen from the cloakroom! Went at the end of the night to collect it and was told that it wasn't there - they had no idea where it had gone but I reckon either the idiotic cloakroom attendant gave it to someone who described it even though they didn't have a ticket, or else they stole it themselves. Complained and had several conversations with the management but they refuse to reimburse me. Can't believe they can get away with charging you money to look after your belongings and then refuse to admit responsibility when they go missing! Shocking. Definitely won't be going back and my advice to you if you're going there is take an old jacket you don't care about cos the staff aren't to be trusted!

same thing happened to me, they lost my coat including house keys. Luckly the coat wasn't expensive and my house mate was in

kidfranky
26-03-2009, 15:49
iv'e had trouble with these guys before...it just seems to me that the majority of bouncers have massive chips on there shoulders...nothing worse than a meat head with a bit of power..

Demanufactur
26-03-2009, 19:51
This is why I don't go clubbing, never have, and never will. Bouncers who think they're hard, and stupid overpriced drinks.

I'm sorry this happened to the OP.

Hm, I think you are missing out. This doesn't happen all the time and you don't have to go to Leadmill. I have been thrown out of clubs for absolutely no reason (because they felt like it I suspect) but that's no reason to exclude yourself.. I think you are being rather silly.

To threadstarter I agree that it is terrible.

I have never had any violence directed towards me. 99% of the time people will bring the violence on themselves and the bouncers will use reasonable force to remove trouble causing punters from the premesis and ensure they do not return. Before you think it, i'm not a bouncer btw.

You'd be surprised and when there is a real problem bouncers often use excessive force.

theripsaw
26-03-2009, 20:10
Bouncers are generally slime :gag: FACT!

gnikojm'i
26-03-2009, 21:49
..........people that make generalisations, generally annoy me, FACT!

lotar
27-03-2009, 06:00
Playing the rasiscm card ... not that old chestnut..... sigh.

RichJay
27-03-2009, 10:56
I've never had a problem with the bouncers at the Leadmill

ohmyword
27-03-2009, 15:22
They is defo not great people. The woman is good. She is a good woman. But there is men who are so bad. They chucked me out a year or so ago. My 'crime'? Dancing like an aeroplane!!! Unbelievable!

minx12
28-03-2009, 11:26
i can remember when i was about 19yrs old on tried gettin in Berlins the only form ov ID i had on me was my birth cretificate. after showin it to the bouncer he then ripped it up an said that it wasnt the right for of id before lettin me in!

DaniBabi
01-04-2009, 11:04
The leadmill doorstaff or upthere if not worse than the ones at embrace nightclub. The bull dog looking one has ot be the worse followed bu the chap with grey hair. Neither can i say this is the first and i doubt the last thread on here about the doorstaff at leadmill.

Plug nightclub, now they have what i consider to be one of the best doorstaff in Sheffield along with West Street Live.

The west st live door staff are ace! I go in there just to see the bouncers!!!

Sarah-Lou
17-04-2009, 13:09
We went to Leadmill on a Monday night which is supposed to be a student night.. None of us were students and they were going to refuse us. Eventually they let us in and did a search on the 2 guys we were with and it was appalling.
They made them take off their shoes and shoes and spread their toes and everything!! Like a prison search.. Completely out of order!!!
I have never seen anything like it - suprised to say we didn't go in after that due to the violation...

flangepipe
18-04-2009, 17:25
Have seen some pretty nasty bouncers around sheffield. in leadmill a friend of mine was put in an arm lock for no reason and literally dragged out. when i spoke to the police, despite only having had a couple of drinks, i was told that because i'd had a drink i had no rights and they wouldnt believe me. This was a totally lucid conversation, he was quite 'friendly' about it, but clearly explained that he wouldnt believe me over the bouncers cos i'd been drinking. a friend of mine was also pushed to the ground outside cavendish. shes a tiny little 5' girl and he was over six foot and pretty massive. he pushed her for no reason, and when we went back the next day we were told that this wasnt the first time he'd done it and was consequently fired. so, there is sometimes justice. unfortunately the doormen about sheffield all know each other and ive seen certain bouncers working doors all over town, so theres no escape from most of the idiots.

Dave650
18-04-2009, 17:54
Have seen some pretty nasty bouncers around sheffield. in leadmill a friend of mine was put in an arm lock for no reason and literally dragged out. when i spoke to the police, despite only having had a couple of drinks, i was told that because i'd had a drink i had no rights and they wouldnt believe me. This was a totally lucid conversation, he was quite 'friendly' about it, but clearly explained that he wouldnt believe me over the bouncers cos i'd been drinking. a friend of mine was also pushed to the ground outside cavendish. shes a tiny little 5' girl and he was over six foot and pretty massive. he pushed her for no reason, and when we went back the next day we were told that this wasnt the first time he'd done it and was consequently fired. so, there is sometimes justice. unfortunately the doormen about sheffield all know each other and ive seen certain bouncers working doors all over town, so theres no escape from most of the idiots.

agree.

Cav bouncers used to be tossers (although they did used to intimidate the lady boy varsity ones :P ) but recently I've not had a problem with them. must be new staff. Leadmill ones are still the worst though. RSVP had an idiot on too, not sure if he's still there.

Fudbeer
18-04-2009, 18:46
I have never had any violence directed towards me. 99% of the time people will bring the violence on themselves and the bouncers will use reasonable force to remove trouble causing punters from the premesis and ensure they do not return. Before you think it, i'm not a bouncer btw.

Why should they give you an explanation if they turf you out? Its their call on who is in the club, R.O.A.R. Especially if you are drunk.

I agree with that I have been pubing and clubing for years and never had a single issue with door staff.

However I have seen some of the crap they have to put up with and its often beyond a joke.

No matter what the attitude of the door staff if you dont attract their attention then you probably wont have an issue.

And if you do get chucked out cause you happen to be next to some idiot causing trouble then move on theres plenty of other places.

daftlad
18-04-2009, 18:51
We went to Leadmill on a Monday night which is supposed to be a student night.. None of us were students and they were going to refuse us. Eventually they let us in and did a search on the 2 guys we were with and it was appalling.
They made them take off their shoes and shoes and spread their toes and everything!! Like a prison search.. Completely out of order!!!
I have never seen anything like it - suprised to say we didn't go in after that due to the violation...

There are some good bouncers and there are some poor ones like the ones in the leadmill that are on some sort of power trip, that have to make up for having such a small dick

effectiveuk
20-04-2009, 19:26
I always found them fine, but I am going back to the mid 90s.

Seems like 2 minutes ago....

philipbolton
21-04-2009, 15:04
Bang out of order.

jen_t
13-03-2010, 22:20
Thought this was perhaps the best place to add my reply. Sorry, its a long one!

This evening my husband and I, and my brother and his girlfriend (who travelled from glasgow for the gig) went to see Frightened Rabbit. All was fine, used our tickets to get in, in good time, my brother and I went for a smoke before FR came onstage and got our hands stamped (or more, penned). Had a bit of a joke with the female bouncer on the door about it taking 3 weeks to come off - I do wash, honest!

During the gig, myself and my husband decided to go out for a smoke and when we came to the main doors, there was absolutely noone there. We walked to the left of the doors and the bouncers (probably the one mentioned in previous posts) and the female bouncer and 2 friends were having a bit of a laugh outside, just past where there is a doorway with intercom to the left of the entrance. We didn't interrupt them as they looked up and acknowledged us and I'd previously shared a joke with the girl so didn't think to go over to get my husbands hand penned at that exact point (is that not their job to do anyway?). Also, it wasn't that long since they saw us go into the gig.

We had our smoke and went to enter the venue. No chance. The 'larger figured' bouncer (who had now moved inside with his pals, thus passing us on the way) absolutely refused as my husband's hand wasn't penned.

I pointed out that this was because they weren't at the door when we went out. Completely denied. I argued my point, and pointed out they were actually outside at the time, as my husband did (in his own mild mannered version, he's very softly spoken!) and we were asked to leave 'his club.'

Afterwards my brother asked them why this was and apparently my husband was 'aggressive.'

I'd like to know if anyone has any experience of obtaining the cctv footage outside the leadmill as I am determined to prove them wrong. To say I'm raging would be an understatement (I'm quite proud of keeping my glasweigan temperament cool at the time, although its in full flow now!!!). The part I'm most annoyed about is the blatant lying and saying that they were there at the door 'all night' - even when we came back half an hour later (although I kept a distance as my temper had reached boiling point at the time!) to meet my brother after the gig they were ****ing about outside!!

Does anyone have any useful suggestions as to what to do with this? There is no way in hell I'm letting this one lie. I'd accept it if I was drunk and being a gimp but I most certainly wasn't!!!

davidathomas
14-03-2010, 00:08
Never had a problem with the bouncers at Leadmill. Respect them and don't act like a ****** up idiot. Its their call who they let in, if they don't want to let you in then get on with your life instead of demanding answers as they have no reason to give them to you. Even if you are sober, makes no difference, tough.

its not there call, they are there as security, they don't own the place! sure the owners would not want them turning people down on a power trip as thats less money in the till! people over state there job, security! thats it, should act as professionals but unfortunately most do seem to have a god complex, it has got better in recent years in sheffield as some companies are trying hard to clean up there image but there are still a lot of the old gangster wannabes kicking around.

I got turned down entry to embrace about 6months ago, just said it was dress code! yea right, I was smartly dressed, all designer gear, no hoods, no over stated football gear, no trainers, only thing I thought was I was maybe 10 years older than most others going in there and so did not fit into there typical client group! I would have accepted that if they said,,,,, did not argue as it gets you no where, i just took my money else where,,, and been a high earning professional thats more than the 18 year olds where likely to spend behind the bar! once again club owners lose out due god complex bouncers.

natjack
14-03-2010, 00:22
Some door staff seem to forget their place in the scheme of life. They're no higher than the bar staff, the cleaners or the person serving you in MacDs. If they had any talent or business sense, they wouldn't be working the doors, would they? Some of them try to be professional but a lot of them are total nutjobs. I'm surprised that the club owners letting them get away with it, tbh. They're being paid to lose you money? :huh:

fairsue84
16-03-2010, 15:06
wow 2 years of complaints thats an achievment x

shiatsuhead
16-03-2010, 15:36
i had a friend who went in with me about 6 months ago - and i left him at the bar for 5mins - next thing i knew i could see him being escorted out and they punched him outside. my friend said he did nothing and i believed him because although he was a scally he was always very honest.
since this incident my friend did his back in and ended up in hospital - in a rather unexplained illness. he was due to go in for brain scan this jan but died in bed in december. i know that the bouncers in leadmill had been rough with and not saying they caused this but i think their mindless violence is more serious than just casual fighting because they dont take into account that people might be ill in the first place like friend must have been. to top it all my friend was even shorter than me @ 5ft 6 tall - those bouncers @ leadmill are worse than thugs.

Mentholman
16-03-2010, 16:34
The west st live door staff are ace! I go in there just to see the bouncers!!!

Thank you Dani, we agree of course. Do come and say hello to the rest of us next time though! :D

kaz216
16-03-2010, 17:02
They is defo not great people. The woman is good. She is a good woman. But there is men who are so bad. They chucked me out a year or so ago. My 'crime'? Dancing like an aeroplane!!! Unbelievable!
:loopy:Oh my Goodness, not dancing like an aeroplane...scandalous behaviour. Bring back Flares that's what I say!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mentholman
18-03-2010, 00:28
Whilst I'm sure being a doorperson can be a difficult job, there's no excuse for some of the behaviour described on here.

I do believe that the owners of any establishment need to be quite prescriptive about the attitude they want their doormen to display. After all, in working there, the doorstaff are representative of the establishment as a whole.
We made it very clear that we wanted our door staff to be friendly, welcoming and non confrontational. However, they also know that their priority is to protect the safety and enjoyment of the customers and the staff. Behaviour in the venue that threatens either, is not tolerated but is handled initially with a warning. Continuation of poor behaviour results in being asked to leave. Refusal, will result in being 'assisted' in departure - but fortunately, this is rarely necessary.

Good doorstaff ensure that everyone has an enjoyable experience.

DaniBabi
18-03-2010, 14:53
Thank you Dani, we agree of course. Do come and say hello to the rest of us next time though! :D

I always do!! x

fairsue84
19-03-2010, 14:19
I think the doormen at Mentholmans are awesome x:hihi:

Greengeek
19-03-2010, 15:55
Leadmill are closing down soon aren't they?

Dave650
19-03-2010, 15:57
Dunno I've not been in ages!
Maybe no one else has?

nikki-red
19-03-2010, 16:33
Leadmill are closing down soon aren't they?

Ive not heard anything, and there's bands booked in till at least mid-November.

Brix26
20-03-2010, 10:58
Oooh i hope it does, i hate going there to watch bands.. mainly due to the door staff.
My friend had an incident with them several years back, we had met up to go to a gig which she was really looking forward to and had bought tickets months in advance. We hadn't even been to a pub before hand, but she was refused entry by the bouncers who argued (quite forcefully) that she was drunk and ordered to leave! By the time she had been home, changed and re-done her hair (which worked as she was let in with no issues next time :loopy:) she had missed most of the band. This is one, but not the only incident i've witnessed in that place, it's like roulette whether you actually get to see the band. I'm sure they have some kind of complex, it's pathetic.

isalmon
21-03-2010, 09:01
im with all on the 'leadmill bouncers are <removed> train......
the last time i visited the place (nearly 4 years since) i was waiting for my little sister at the end of the night to retrieve her coat from the cloak room as didnt want her to get lost or lose the group as she wasnt from sheffield, cut a longish story short i was asked to leave, i explained the situation, did not swear or show any sign of violent behaviour but was then accosted by 4 'bouncers' who preceded to pick me up by my arms and legs and throw me out the door and give me a bit of a kick to go with it......... never been back never will

fairsue84
27-03-2010, 15:38
:gag:

such a shame really i used to like the place! x

RatGirl85
01-04-2010, 19:20
that big bouncer is a obnoxious <removed>, me and a couple of the girls went for my friends 19th and just because her driving license picture of her had blonde hair, he confiscated it and chucked us all out. she had other ID, (university student ID and Old College ID ) which had her name on but he would not accept at all. He was not allowed to take her ID! so we went to west bar police station and reported him. she had to wait 3 weeks for the return of her license. NONSENSE!!

PhilSheff
02-04-2010, 14:37
I've heard about lots of trouble with the bouncers at leadmill. They're all power hungry.

TheBabbler
02-04-2010, 17:54
Terrible bouncers

alen65
03-04-2010, 21:44
which security company employs these sort of bouncers?

Dave650
04-04-2010, 11:09
which security company employs these sort of bouncers?

I have a feeling they're employed by the leadmill themselves as the main ugly, powertrip one's been there for years.

antuk
04-04-2010, 22:33
i know a few people who work doors in and around Sheffield... ...before the sia license came in the leadmill was well known for taking anyone on...and quite a few were there just "kick some heads in"

source: the man sat next to me...just told quite nonchalantly :help:

Northrend
06-04-2010, 15:40
Atleast the ledmill seem to be reading this thread right now so something might get done. If not and they want to go out of business then fine jog on. Your 10 a penny these days.

willdavidson
06-04-2010, 17:07
I completely agree about the Leadmill bouncers.

Here is my story:

I was out with my friends enjoying a night out when I need to go to the toilet. As I was in the corridor, a fight kicked off between random people that I didnt know. As I tried to walk around the ruckus, a split second later the bouncers intervened and citizens arrested me and frog-marched me out of the club.

Afterwards, I was taken into the foyer and actually thrown against a wall, was told to have my arms where the bouncer could see them whilst I was "searched". After complaining for ages and trying to get back in, I was refused entry and told even though I wasn't anything to do with the fight, that it was in my best interests to leave otherwise the police (who were down the road) would arrest me.

So there I was with a bruised shoulder (for a week afterwards).

A couple of weeks after that incident we decided to go there (on a spur of the moment decision). As we got to the foyer, I was again grabbed and taken outside by the "Head Of Security" who thought that I was too ****** to go in. After proving that I was actually 100% sober and hadn't even been drinking (reciting alphabet backwards, walking in a straight line etc) he allowed me to rejoin the queue. Needless to say it was the same bouncer that ruined my shoulder.

Leadmill have lost a good customer of theirs in myself....
Rant over..

Paul2412
07-04-2010, 09:17
I completely agree about the Leadmill bouncers.

Here is my story:

I was out with my friends enjoying a night out when I need to go to the toilet. As I was in the corridor, a fight kicked off between random people that I didnt know. As I tried to walk around the ruckus, a split second later the bouncers intervened and citizens arrested me and frog-marched me out of the club.

Afterwards, I was taken into the foyer and actually thrown against a wall, was told to have my arms where the bouncer could see them whilst I was "searched". After complaining for ages and trying to get back in, I was refused entry and told even though I wasn't anything to do with the fight, that it was in my best interests to leave otherwise the police (who were down the road) would arrest me.

So there I was with a bruised shoulder (for a week afterwards).

A couple of weeks after that incident we decided to go there (on a spur of the moment decision). As we got to the foyer, I was again grabbed and taken outside by the "Head Of Security" who thought that I was too ****** to go in. After proving that I was actually 100% sober and hadn't even been drinking (reciting alphabet backwards, walking in a straight line etc) he allowed me to rejoin the queue. Needless to say it was the same bouncer that ruined my shoulder.

Leadmill have lost a good customer of theirs in myself....
Rant over..

It's the only place I've ever had issues with the bouncers as well. If it was a decent place inside I might put up with them, but as its crap I certainly don't miss going there.

If just about every other bar in town can employ decent human beings as bouncers why can't Leadmill? I wonder if they know how much custom they have lost due to these retards on the doors.

Scozzie
07-04-2010, 09:59
Am I the only person with good stories about the bouncers at the Leadmill?

RichJay
07-04-2010, 10:30
I've never had a problem with the bouncers in the Leadmill.

swordfish1
07-04-2010, 11:04
Nor me, and I've lost count of the number of times I've been there over the years, easily into 3 figures.

I'm not saying he isn't a thick meat headed knuckle dragger though. There are too many stories about him for at least some of them not to be true. And he does give that impression.

murd
07-04-2010, 13:04
I went to the leadmill a few years ago.

Scozzie
07-04-2010, 13:13
I'd not long been in Sheffield and was on a works night out. I got talking to some randoms and the work people were heading to the next bar - I thought nothing of it as we were on West Street.

I followed them out after about 5 minutes and realised all the bars were closed, but remembered someone saying something about going to a 'Mill'?

I jumped in a cab and asked the driver if he knew what/where it was and he took me to the Leadmill.

I spoke to the bouncers about going to to find my friends, but he said I would have to pay (fair enough). I paid, went in, looked around and on seeing no one I recognised, I left.

The bouncer hailed me on the way out and got me a refund as I was obviously there for the reason I said.

The he offered to let me wait a bit in the foyer to see if my friends turned up.
He entertained me for a bit, then said 'Oh, I think your freinds have just arrived' - he'd recognised them from my description.

In the end, a lot of fun was had by all. I was thankful to the Door Supervisor and I have never had a bad experience.

He even hailed a cab for me when I left.

jamiekerk
07-04-2010, 13:24
You should give the bouncers a break they have a tough job, if they let the wrong people in it can turn out to be a crappy night for evryone.

They are bound to be a bit strung and stand for no nonesense, they get abuse thrown at them constantly.

So you got ejected big woop.

Dave650
07-04-2010, 16:53
You should give the bouncers a break they have a tough job, if they let the wrong people in it can turn out to be a crappy night for evryone.

They are bound to be a bit strung and stand for no nonesense, they get abuse thrown at them constantly.

So you got ejected big woop.
Not really there's no excuse for people to be a **** constantly, maybe if it was a one off but it's clearly not.

I've been countless times (a while back mind) and seen them at it regularly, never directly had a confrontation with them but would rather be elsewhere though...

Plug bouncers on the other hand are top blokes in my experience, got talking to one for a good while the other day (although he was agency supplied - maybe they all/most there are?).

scottsmith
08-04-2010, 07:27
Been in Leadmill once, for a Monday night thing with our lass.

Towards the end of the night I was smacked from behind by someone, my initial reaction was to throw the little ******* across the room, this caused a fight amongst everyone behind us. The bouncers came running in, grabbed me and realised I was the one who got hit. So they helped me find him, saying that they would get the police to arrest him. They were very understanding and helpful!

CaptainA
09-04-2010, 16:20
I'd not long been in Sheffield and was on a works night out. I got talking to some randoms and the work people were heading to the next bar - I thought nothing of it as we were on West Street.

I followed them out after about 5 minutes and realised all the bars were closed, but remembered someone saying something about going to a 'Mill'?

I jumped in a cab and asked the driver if he knew what/where it was and he took me to the Leadmill.

I spoke to the bouncers about going to to find my friends, but he said I would have to pay (fair enough). I paid, went in, looked around and on seeing no one I recognised, I left.

The bouncer hailed me on the way out and got me a refund as I was obviously there for the reason I said.

The he offered to let me wait a bit in the foyer to see if my friends turned up.
He entertained me for a bit, then said 'Oh, I think your freinds have just arrived' - he'd recognised them from my description.

In the end, a lot of fun was had by all. I was thankful to the Door Supervisor and I have never had a bad experience.

He even hailed a cab for me when I left.



Thats because despite what people are saying on here if your sound with them they are sound with you! fact :D

CaptainA
09-04-2010, 16:52
Firstly I like the Leadmill bouncers!!

i have been going to leadmill religiously for 4years with different groups of friends.......i have NEVER had a problem with them!!!!!!

They have infact helped me look for a lost phone.
Let my friend stay behind to search for her lost house keys.
Removed somebody who had started on me without any reason.

I have not witnessed them be out of line with anyone!

Bouncers are rough!!! what do you want them to do hold you hand and say lets skip out together and have cup of tea and a chin wag about why your being a **** head?! NO - You are removed with acceptable force.

The people complaining about unfair removals ect and blah blah i was sober i hadn't touched a drop for one im pretty sure leadmill can keep running with out people who are SOBER and not PAYING for drinks!
The bouncers cant get it right everytime there are going to be occasions where they mistake people ect ....saying "err it want me in sober i dint do owt" is not going to get you back in because a guilty person would say the same!

They have a hard job i have witnessed one bouncer being kicked in the head while holding somebody in a restraint position who wether guilty or not had tried to leg it from a brawl....and they have the threat of that happening all the time!

They are not animals or yob and i actually like having a chat with them before i go into the club .....

Simple fact is if you behave keep your head down and dont chat back you will infact have a good night.

In reply to anyone moaning about how leadmills changed blah blah blah times have changed its not going to be the same as 50 years ago....

anyone who hasnt been in the last two years does not get to voice and opinion as your not informed enough to comment and quite frankly you dont drink there so it doesnt concern you.

I regard this place very highly i have spent every birthday there and have had so many good nights it really upsets me to hear you slating it. if you dont like it dont come! SIMPLE!!!

The leadmill was and still is sheffields number one music venue in my eyes look at the leadmill gig list and the line up for this summers festivals and have a game of pairs ... you will get a fair few!

The leadmill is legandary in sheffield and always will be perhaps it is time for a little face lift ....maybe its going to get one!!! Still a brilliant venue! and the bouncers are still not bleeding animals!!!!

Paul2412
09-04-2010, 16:57
Firstly I like the Leadmill bouncers!!

i have been going to leadmill religiously for 4years with different groups of friends.......i have NEVER had a problem with them!!!!!!

They have infact helped me look for a lost phone.
Let my friend stay behind to search for her lost house keys.
Removed somebody who had started on me without any reason.

I have not witnessed them be out of line with anyone!

Bouncers are rough!!! what do you want them to do hold you hand and say lets skip out together and have cup of tea and a chin wag about why your being a **** head?! NO - You are removed with acceptable force.

The people complaining about unfair removals ect and blah blah i was sober i hadn't touched a drop for one im pretty sure leadmill can keep running with out people who are SOBER and not PAYING for drinks!
The bouncers cant get it right everytime there are going to be occasions where they mistake people ect ....saying "err it want me in sober i dint do owt" is not going to get you back in because a guilty person would say the same!

They have a hard job i have witnessed one bouncer being kicked in the head while holding somebody in a restraint position who wether guilty or not had tried to leg it from a brawl....and they have the threat of that happening all the time!

They are not animals or yob and i actually like having a chat with them before i go into the club .....

Simple fact is if you behave keep your head down and dont chat back you will infact have a good night.

In reply to anyone moaning about how leadmills changed blah blah blah times have changed its not going to be the same as 50 years ago....

anyone who hasnt been in the last two years does not get to voice and opinion as your not informed enough to comment and quite frankly you dont drink there so it doesnt concern you.

I regard this place very highly i have spent every birthday there and have had so many good nights it really upsets me to hear you slating it. if you dont like it dont come! SIMPLE!!!

The leadmill was and still is sheffields number one music venue in my eyes look at the leadmill gig list and the line up for this summers festivals and have a game of pairs ... you will get a fair few!

The leadmill is legandary in sheffield and always will be perhaps it is time for a little face lift ....maybe its going to get one!!! Still a brilliant venue! and the bouncers are still not bleeding animals!!!!

How long have you worked there?

aeinstein199
09-04-2010, 21:28
How long have you worked there?

Since

Today 17:51

:D

Grappler
12-04-2010, 17:37
I have never had an issue with the Leadmill doorstaff, probably because I am a lot bigger than most of them, in fact they usually try and engage me in conversation while waiting to get in, but I know other people with bad experience of them. I remember hearing how some lads were kicked out for being drunk when celebrating a mates birthday, not causing trouble or spilling drinks or anything, just for being drunk (drunk in a night club on a mates birthday, whatever next....) but there were quite a few of these lads, more than the door staff realised at first and there was a bit of a stand off outside, with the doorstaff backing down and threatening to phone the police.

I know it is not an easy job, and I know some lads who were real old school, hard as nails doorman over the years, but were polite and friendly, and actually came across as more scary for that fact, that they never had to raise their voices or threaten people, because they had that quiet confidence that they would come out on top in any situation.

gabby
12-04-2010, 17:50
The leadmill was and still is sheffields number one music venue

Write that down and mail it to 15 years ago

look at the leadmill gig list and the line up

I rest my case.....

willdavidson
15-04-2010, 13:31
Firstly I like the Leadmill bouncers!!

i have been going to leadmill religiously for 4years with different groups of friends.......i have NEVER had a problem with them!!!!!!

They have infact helped me look for a lost phone.
Let my friend stay behind to search for her lost house keys.
Removed somebody who had started on me without any reason.

I have not witnessed them be out of line with anyone!

Bouncers are rough!!! what do you want them to do hold you hand and say lets skip out together and have cup of tea and a chin wag about why your being a **** head?! NO - You are removed with acceptable force.

The people complaining about unfair removals ect and blah blah i was sober i hadn't touched a drop for one im pretty sure leadmill can keep running with out people who are SOBER and not PAYING for drinks!
The bouncers cant get it right everytime there are going to be occasions where they mistake people ect ....saying "err it want me in sober i dint do owt" is not going to get you back in because a guilty person would say the same!

They have a hard job i have witnessed one bouncer being kicked in the head while holding somebody in a restraint position who wether guilty or not had tried to leg it from a brawl....and they have the threat of that happening all the time!

They are not animals or yob and i actually like having a chat with them before i go into the club .....

Simple fact is if you behave keep your head down and dont chat back you will infact have a good night.

In reply to anyone moaning about how leadmills changed blah blah blah times have changed its not going to be the same as 50 years ago....

anyone who hasnt been in the last two years does not get to voice and opinion as your not informed enough to comment and quite frankly you dont drink there so it doesnt concern you.

I regard this place very highly i have spent every birthday there and have had so many good nights it really upsets me to hear you slating it. if you dont like it dont come! SIMPLE!!!

The leadmill was and still is sheffields number one music venue in my eyes look at the leadmill gig list and the line up for this summers festivals and have a game of pairs ... you will get a fair few!

The leadmill is legandary in sheffield and always will be perhaps it is time for a little face lift ....maybe its going to get one!!! Still a brilliant venue! and the bouncers are still not bleeding animals!!!!

To quote "you are removed with respectable force"

What a load of bullsh*te, I have never had any trouble in any club, be it in Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds or Bristol APART from that one power hungry jobsworth pr*ck at the Leadmill.

Respectable force, especially on someone who wasnt resisting, should not involve an armbar citizens arrest and then being slammed against a wall.

To quote again "keep your head down"
Errm, im pretty sure thats what I was doing when I tried to step around the fight, so again thats ridiculous.

I know how hard a job bouncers have, as I work in club myself (and used to work in Leadmill surprisingly!) and see the sh*te that they have to put up with from some people, but the ones at Leadmill seem to tarnish everyone with the same brush and its quite frankly disgraceful.

Paul2412
15-04-2010, 14:32
To quote "you are removed with respectable force"

What a load of bullsh*te, I have never had any trouble in any club, be it in Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds or Bristol APART from that one power hungry jobsworth pr*ck at the Leadmill.

Respectable force, especially on someone who wasnt resisting, should not involve an armbar citizens arrest and then being slammed against a wall.

To quote again "keep your head down"
Errm, im pretty sure thats what I was doing when I tried to step around the fight, so again thats ridiculous.

I know how hard a job bouncers have, as I work in club myself (and used to work in Leadmill surprisingly!) and see the sh*te that they have to put up with from some people, but the ones at Leadmill seem to tarnish everyone with the same brush and its quite frankly disgraceful.

I agree, the sooner its turned into apartments and those bouncers find themselves unemployable the better.

dosxuk
15-04-2010, 15:02
Paul - you said in the Gatecrasher thread that Sheffield needs another large club, yet in other threads you're calling for Leadmill, Embrace & O2 to be closed. Fine, you don't like the customers or the music played anywhere but Plug (of the large venues), but calling for them to be "turned into apartments" seems bizarre from someone who also says there isn't enough large venues in the city.

Leadmill, Embrace & O2 have an established customer bas, who enjoy the events, music and people they meet there - you're not in one of them, but please don't think everyone shares your views. Would you really be happy if they did all close, and all those customers came along to Plug when you go there?

Paul2412
15-04-2010, 15:41
Paul - you said in the Gatecrasher thread that Sheffield needs another large club, yet in other threads you're calling for Leadmill, Embrace & O2 to be closed. Fine, you don't like the customers or the music played anywhere but Plug (of the large venues), but calling for them to be "turned into apartments" seems bizarre from someone who also says there isn't enough large venues in the city.

Leadmill, Embrace & O2 have an established customer bas, who enjoy the events, music and people they meet there - you're not in one of them, but please don't think everyone shares your views. Would you really be happy if they did all close, and all those customers came along to Plug when you go there?

You do have a point, especially with Embrace I'd hate to see the people who go there in Plug.

I suppose just to see the Leadmill bouncers unemployed would be good enough.

As I said on the other thread, its quality not quantity that we need. Gatecrasher would bring a large quality club which we are sadly lacking.