do you think that you can put a curse on some one and that it would really work, if you hated some one enough would you try it?

have you ever heard of any one bieng cursed and that some one, having ill luck?

do you know any guarranteed curses and of course the lifting of them?
oppinions please..............

Hi

Yes they work but only if you believe in them. Best way to break a curse is have a good laugh at it.

Coley

Originally posted by coley
Hi

Yes they work but only if you believe in them. Best way to break a curse is have a good laugh at it.

Coley ok so if i believe in it you say it will work, but what about the person who is bieng cursed,do they have to be told that a curse is upon them? in which case if they dont believe,then it wont work.......will it?

do seruptitious curses work? where the person bieng cursed knows nothing about it?

I believe you can put a curse on someone by telling it to a robin.

Not sure if this is a Pagan belief?

The Litha may correct me..

The Wiccan branch of paganism in no supports "cursing" people. It's main rule to follow is "An it harm none, do what thou wilt". Cursing obviously breaks the "An it harm none" bit! Some wiccans also believe in the law of threefold return which states that whatever you send out will return to you threefold. So if you spread happiness and love you will get it back threefold, but if you send out hate and anger, this will also return threefold. Although I believe curses may be able to work I would never try to send one or even consider it.

Its all about headology...which is a very powerful thing..so yes the person would need to know that they are being cursed. I'm not advising it mind you..these things have a habit of rebounding.

If a person knows nothing about it then no I dont believe it would work most of the time. I heard of this guy in America who was sent pictures of pigs every day..hundreds of the blighters...it was the 60's and 'pig' was a bad insult..eventually he jumped out of a window. Its headology you see!

Although I'd advise using it the other way around..why not bless someone instead?

Coley (not a wiccan but not prone to cursing!)

Originally posted by coley
Although I'd advise using it the other way around..why not bless someone instead?

I applaud this approach and find it far more psychologically healthy. Too much hate does nothing but damage you in the end.

if anyone harms me or mine then woe betide :suspect:

and yes curses/hexes or what ever else you might want to call it does work. not that i go around willy nilly cursing LOL. i do as a justice thing.

Don nope not heard of the tellin it to a birdy thing but just cos i havent it doesnt mean its not a pagan thing, so ya could be right ill look into it.

a mirror spell is a good way of breaking a curse it sends it straight back to where ever it came from.

Litha...

( ive heard it all before so if any muppets wanna start dissin save ya breath :D )

Originally posted by Litha
if anyone harms me or mine then woe betide :suspect:

and yes curses/hexes or what ever else you might want to call it does work. not that i go around willy nilly cursing LOL. i do as a justice thing.

Don nope not heard of the tellin it to a birdy thing but just cos i havent it doesnt mean its not a pagan thing, so ya could be right ill look into it.

a mirror spell is a good way of breaking a curse it sends it straight back to where ever it came from.

Litha...

( ive heard it all before so if any muppets wanna start dissin save ya breath :D ) so you believe in the power of a curse,would that make you suseptable to one,would you know you had been cursed,if so how? and what about joe public,they dont have your knowledge so would they be affected by a curse due to their ignorance?

In that case: Curse you BT and your poxy expensive unreliable broadband service.

Worth a try...

:D

Originally posted by Litha
Don nope not heard of the tellin it to a birdy thing but just cos i havent it doesnt mean its not a pagan thing, so ya could be right ill look into it.


Unless it's the Elven Robin Goodfellow - the mischievous one - I'm thinking about? :confused:

there are different types of curses, maybe joe public as you call em might just think they were going thru abit of a bad patch or they could actually think they had been cursed yes sometimes just thinking it is as bad as it actually have happened.
i can tell because the energies around me change i start to feel miserable, sick and headachey,.

can i just ask why this question was asked in the first place? does someone think they may have been? if its private feel free to PM me.

Litha

Originally posted by Litha
there are different types of curses, maybe joe public as you call em might just think they were going thru abit of a bad patch or they could actually think they had been cursed yes sometimes just thinking it is as bad as it actually have happened.
i can tell because the energies around me change i start to feel miserable, sick and headachey,.

can i just ask why this question was asked in the first place? does someone think they may have been? if its private feel free to PM me.

Litha no not at all personal,iwas talking to an old friend of mine on sunday,he was telling me about his army days fighting the mao mao terrorists,he said he saw an informer that was ok one minute,then the next he raved on about how he had been cursed, he was on constant observation but died during the night,just wondered if it was possible to kill by cursing,bearing in mind no one had access to this informer as he was under military protection so he could not have been poisoned but he died, he felt a curse and convinced himself he was finished and died hours later

well i do beleive in those sort but i have never done one nor am i likely to, to be honest they are way over my head not my cup of tea etc...

i had a friend who swore blind she was being brainwashed she was a nervouse reck, it took some convincing of her that the muppet involved did not have an ounce of magickal ability and was not making her life hell, it was all a coincedence. eventually she managed to let go of this person and see them for who they really were just a saddo, since then everything in her life turned round. this is an example of how just the mere thought of someone doing something against you can actually have a huge effect on your life. normally if her car had broke down she wouldnt have thought anything about it but just because of the saddo she truely beleived it was him doing it and many more things.

Litha

litha you said in an earlier post that you knew you were bieng cursed because your energies changed and you felt headachy, could you tell us why you believe some one cursed you ? and would it have been some one of equal talants?

why would some one curse another? revenge,one upmanship,spite, ? i know my friend was telling the truth about the informer,and i can see why he was cursed,but in todays modern times,are there really people who would do this to some one,believing it would work

If you cast a bad spell on someone isn't it supposed to come back on you 3-fold ?

yes there really is poeple that would do this even nowadays, in my case all i can say is it must have been spite or jealousy as i had done nothing to this person, when i actually realised what was happening i laughed beleive it or not because all i could think was this sad pethetic individual has no self worth other wise they wouldnt have done it, i pitied them there crappy exsistence. the bubble popped :D , they tried again this time i was anoyed so i just sent back what ever had been sent to me and a little but more just to let them know i had had enough. no idea if it worked but i do know quiet a few bad things happened to them. anyone is welcome to there oppinion that it was just coincidence/bad luck
but i will carry on sitting here with a contented little grin anyway :heyhey:

not everyone beleives in the three fold law :thumbsup: it is more likely a wiccan that beleives this. just because i do not hold this beleif does not mean i do not respect others that do.

in saying this i dont think its right to go about sending bad stuff on purpose for no reason as this is just plain nasty so yes the person will get their just desserts for been a toerag BUT if someone is harming you and yours it is your right to protect yourself and there is nothing wrong with sending someone their own thing back :thumbsup:

OK Litha, I'm convinced.
How do I do it? :heyhey:

like im tellin you, ya will dob me in for aiding and abetting if ya get sussed :suspect:

:cool: ooooh, I wouldna be sussed :D

If I felt I was being cursed I would probably just perform some sort of banishing spell rather than send a curse back...it would make me feel I was just lowering myself to their level.

With that being said I did once perform a binding spell on a guy who had been making my life hell. This basically meant he was unable to send his bad energy to me and instead it became bound to him. He phoned me a bit later to say he had been wracked with guilt over how he had been treating me and he wanted to apologise!!! Needless to say this is about the only spell I have ever done that has worked...all the other times I don't think I have given spells all my energy and attention, but this time I was so hurt that I put my all into it!

Of course curses don't work, ribbit..ribbit. I was just telling, ribbit, my tadpoles the other, ribbit, day that the Gypsy lady who I told, ribbit, to sod off was talking, ribbit, ribbit, a load of cobblers, ribbit, ribbit.

We frown, ribbit, on superstition, ribbit, in our pond.....RIBBIT!!

good for you Lucy and well done on your binding spell. alot of people dont realise its the energy you raise and the intent you put into a spell that makes it work. its the visualisation and the need that are so important.

have you ever had one of those annoying little **** flies hovering round ya chicken drumstick when you have been on a pic-nic? if so what did you do, did you waft it away or let it merrily walk alover your lunch. . . . i would have splattered it and not feel i had lowered myself to its annoying little level one little bit.

each case has to be treated on its own individual merrit, and i dont think a plonker boyfriend is the same as some one interferring in your families welfare.. do you :thumbsup:

Originally posted by saxon51
Of course curses don't work, ribbit..ribbit. I was just telling, ribbit, my tadpoles the other, ribbit, day that the Gypsy lady who I told, ribbit, to sod off was talking, ribbit, ribbit, a load of cobblers, ribbit, ribbit.

We frown, ribbit, on superstition, ribbit, in our pond.....RIBBIT!!

LOL LOL Saxon, that made me chuckle, ive had a iritating back ache for 2 days and that cheered me up :D

Hey each to their own I'm not here to judge just syaing what I believe. He wasn't a plonker boyfriend although was trying to be and was bullying me senseless. Don't really know what I'd do in a more serious situation although I don't tend to use magic a lot, I think I'd much rather try the conventional way eg police, courts etc. In the meantime I might use a little magic to bring me strength or protect my family.

But like I've said each to their own. I personally am Wiccan and do try to live my life by the law of threefold return, although I see it as more of a spiritual principle. With that said that's just how I chose to live my life and it is what works for me, I don't ever expect anybody else to do the same :razz:

i have many friends who are Wiccan, and upto a point the three fold law is a wonderful beautiful thing (yes i have a copy of the Wiccan rede cos i think its lovely) its just that how far do you take the harm none bit? i am all for bringing hanging back, but their are folks that think ohh no no what ever it was they did they dont deserve to die they are after all human beings, hmm well as far as i am conserned the day they commited what ever evil crime they did was the day they lost all rights to breath.
much the same as if someone has the cheek to send me stuff then why should i shower them with blessings, if they are big enough to send it then they should make sure they are big enough to catch it with both hands when it comes back:D

BTW im not being judgemental neither, trust me i beleive everyone has the right to follow their own path. and i love hearing other peoples views. as far as im concerned all our paths are leading to the same place just we all take in different bits of the scenery.:)

Brightest Blessings
Litha.

ps.. i hold pagan moots if ya interested :thumbsup:

I Have definate proof Cursers exist.
Dont believe me? Well look HERE (http://www.cursormania.com)

heehee there ya go Viking what more proof does anyone want, and i bet a few of em will be wanting some eh? :thumbsup:

I have never really thought about how far I take the "an it harm none bit" although thinking about it now I really doubt I would do anything intentionally to hurt somebody. Mind you , there are many times that I have unintentionally hurt somebody so I'm not that perfect lol

The hanging analogy is actually quite good in fact, as I do tend to be one of those people who would be against the death penalty. But the reason it works nicely as an analogy is that there are many arguments for/against the death penalty and in the end it just comes down to individual peoples feelings and individual situations. Just like curses I suppose.

But yes, each to their own path...I think what you said about scenery was beautiful :D

p.s even though I tend to keep to myself as a Wiccan I might be interested in one of your moots, would you mind private messaging me the details of your next one? Thanks x

Originally posted by Litha

i am all for bringing hanging back, but their are folks that think ohh no no what ever it was they did they dont deserve to die they are after all human beings, hmm well as far as i am conserned the day they commited what ever evil crime they did was the day they lost all rights to breath.Litha.



I agree with you Litha...... dont do to other what you wouldnt wish upon yourself!! Iam a big believer in fate. And try not to judge others but what you reep is what you sew.

Weve laughed a work sometimes considering who we could make a little effegy of. Never done it just laughed about it anyway. Can you imagine it would just end up looking like Mr Blobby. Te he he he.

:D

I think the issue is that if you are conflicted in any way then your magic goes wonky. Curses are likely to be done when you are conflicted thus are more likely to go wonky..hence the 3 fold law. I'm sure you can curse without any ill effects but you'd have to be very focused and very good at what you do.

I wouldn't advise anyone to mess around with magic though as wonky magic just makes a big old mess!

Coley

hmm i agree with you upto a point there coley:D
and yes wonky magick does tend to cause a mess, i suppose the three fold law is good for beginners as it will act as somesort of a saftey gate until they get abit more adept but to me it just doesnt hold up enough in real life.

Blessings
Litha

Originally posted by technophobe
I agree with you Litha...... dont do to other what you wouldnt wish upon yourself!! Iam a big believer in fate. And try not to judge others but what you reep is what you sew.

Weve laughed a work sometimes considering who we could make a little effegy of. Never done it just laughed about it anyway. Can you imagine it would just end up looking like Mr Blobby. Te he he he.

:D

:D heehee technophobe, we call them poppits , and they are for healing and general nice things. without going into to much detail .. eg:- just cut 2 ginger bread man shapes out sew most of it together leave a gap and fill with herbs/crystals flowers etc.. anything nice. different herbs and crystals etc for different things say if you had a cold you could make one put energies in it for healing and fill it with eucalyptus leaves & chamomile keep it under your pillow next to your bed or where ever , when your cold is better again unpick it and bury all contents and poppit in the garden with thanx
hmmmmm and that was the short version LOL
they can be made out of other things but i think thats easiest and less messiest :thumbsup:

I've been meaning to come to your shop since we PM'd about you (possibly!) stopping smoking! Are you open tomorrow?? Can think of a couple of people I would llike to put a spell on!

Let me know opening times etc and I will pop in Thurday aft!!

Cya!

Msb

Hi Litha

That's what i'm saying really ..that people need to be reigned in a bit until they know what they are doing. Once you know things work then you tend to treat it with more respect. No criticism of Wicca intended here..its just not for me.

Coley

wellllll!!! i am actually on the zyban tablets now and i go to a stop smokin meetin at the docs its tommorow at 1pm then im tied up all day after that:(
we are open mon-sat 10am-6pm so ya more than welcome to pop in whenever ya fancy... ya might even catch me on a good day LOL and get a cuppa :D

same here Coley wicca isnt for me either, may i ask what your path is. im totally eclectic, but pushed i go with the hedge witch label :D
i see by ya siggy that you read the tarot, well if you want to put a poster up or business cards in my shop you are very more than welcome:thumbsup:

Litha

Hi Litha

Pathwise I'm an odd mix of ancestral, Scottish and hedgey. I'll chat with you by Pm about it if you like?

Tarot wise that's a really kind offer thank you. I'm getting some cards done so as soon as I'll be in touch. I'd happily pay you in tarots if you'd like?

Coley

Hiya Coley well i certainly would love a PM conflab , im so nosey i love chatting and hearing about others beleifs.
and as for the tarot, i need no payment at all thankyou tho its very kind. when i forst opened the shop i called it a pagan community center i hoped it would be a place to bring folks together
:)


Litha