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mr contrite 11-10-2008, 22:02 Paedophile: Gordon Boon abused young girls
An elderly paedophile found strangled in woodland may have been the victim of a vigilante revenge attack, police believe.
Gordon Boon, a registered sex offender, was killed while on licence from prison.
Detectives were last night investigating whether the 73-year-old was murdered because of his past crimes against a girl of eight and two aged 13.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1076204/Police-hunt-vigilante-strangled-known-paedophile-parole-dumped-woods.html
Whilst not wanting to sound like i condone this act, i read this and wondered if a paedophile had committed an act on a child of mine, would i be able to commit murder on the offender, and the answer was....yes.
Could others feel that they too could commit the ultimate crime for this sort of offence, and are there other offences deemed evil enough to warrant handing out a summary execution?
pattricia 11-10-2008, 22:04 we would say we couldnt if it was not our child, but could if it was. Its human nature to feel like this.
littleboo 11-10-2008, 22:10 if anyone touched my children then yes I would, I can only imagine how these families must feel when they see the monsters who do this walking free, and i know an eye for an eye is wrong...but its human nature to protect and fight for your children.
If it was my child I probably would. If given the chance.
mr contrite 11-10-2008, 22:12 we would say we couldnt if it was not our child, but could if it was. Its human nature to feel like this.
I agree, but feeling like that, and actually going ahead with it are 2 different things, i have mentioned before several incidents involving my lads being beaten up and if i had caught the offenders that night i would have caused serious damage to those involved, but upon sleeping on it, deemed it wise to allow the police to deal with it (not that the result was how i wanted to turn out, but hey, the CPS are a law unto themselves) yet this case seems it could possibly be a case of revenge being a dish best served cold.
If it was my child, I already know exactly what I would do!
But that's not it.
pattricia 11-10-2008, 22:15 I agree, but feeling like that, and actually going ahead with it are 2 different things, i have mentioned before several incidents involving my lads being beaten up and if i had caught the offenders that night i would have caused serious damage to those involved, but upon sleeping on it, deemed it wise to allow the police to deal with it (not that the result was how i wanted to turn out, but hey, the CPS are a law unto themselves) yet this case seems it could possibly be a case of revenge being a dish best served cold.
Yes I understand your view point here. Its surprising where your physical strength comes from though when one of your own is threatened.
Could others feel that they too could commit the ultimate crime for this sort of offence, and are there other offences deemed evil enough to warrant handing out a summary execution?
Those are two entirely different questions. Could I do it? Absolutely yes. Does it warrant being done? Absolutely no.
mr contrite 11-10-2008, 22:32 Those are two entirely different questions. Could I do it? Absolutely yes. Does it warrant being done? Absolutely no.
Interesting, you say you could do it, but it doesnt warrant being done!
What if time travel was possible, and knowing what you do, if you were transported back in time to Berlin 1938, and had the opportunity to kill Hitler, could you, and would it be warranted, both situations involve an evil monster, its the scale of their actions which differ.
Interesting, you say you could do it, but it doesnt warrant being done!
I've never claimed to be perfect. (Contrary to what a lot of people on here might think....)
If I knew someone had messed around with my niece, and I found him within my reach, I quite probably would strangle the *******. Emotions get you like that. Doesn't mean that I would not deserve to go to jail for murder as a consequence. I would.
mr chris 11-10-2008, 22:40 I'd like to believe it's a choice I'd never have to make.
pattricia 11-10-2008, 22:41 Those are two entirely different questions. Could I do it? Absolutely yes. Does it warrant being done? Absolutely no.
This is how I would have expressed myself as well. Good reply.:thumbsup:
If you can kill a sex offender as a vigilante it just means there's another killer on the loose. Killing a paedo doesn't excuse you from being a killer. On the other hand if your the parent of an offended child then the circumstance may dictate that you were not held mentally responsible. Killing someone after the fact wouldn't change how my daughter felt...It would only change how I felt. I really wouldn't be comfortable with killing someone in the name of my daughter...she's far to precious. If I caught someone in the act? then off come the gloves.
Personally I don't think I would as I would probably be with my daughter 24/7 after the fact. They come 1st, not me. And that's the truth of the matter.
mr contrite 11-10-2008, 22:43 This is how I would have expressed myself as well. Good reply.:thumbsup:
Fair enough, but what of my post earlier regarding going back in time to pre-war Germany? would it be justified in killing hitler?
Fair enough, but what of my post earlier regarding going back in time to pre-war Germany? would it be justified in killing hitler?
Yes, killing just one person (him) would save a lot more lives.
Just my opinion. :|
mr contrite 11-10-2008, 22:48 Yes, killing just one person (him) would save a lot more lives.
Just my opinion. :|
All i ask is for opinion, but does that mean it is the extent of the crime which justifies the killing, ie the amount of people involved, rather than the crime itself?
I agree with Heyesey.
A young girl I once knew was approached by someone who tried to abduct her, she only told us about hours later. The police were called, statements were taken and I spent the night with her reading to her because she was scared to go to bed.
At that moment, and I remember feeling it at the time, I wanted to go out, find the bloke and torture him to death, over a period of weeks, or months.
Years later I still wish death on the bloke who wanted to take her, but I'm less inclined to wield the sword myself and, emotion aside, I know it would have been wrong to have sought justice myself
Fair enough, but what of my post earlier regarding going back in time to pre-war Germany? would it be justified in killing hitler?
There's no emotion involved in that decision - however many lives Hitler may have cost, there were none of them personally known to me.
Also, you're presenting a situation where we know what the consequences of not killing the guy would be. While murdering the guy who fiddled with my niece might be personally satisfying on a revenge basis, it doesn't necessarily - in fact it probably does not - save any lives.
but its human nature to protect and fight for your children.
Absolutely.
However, if it was a heat of the moment decision to strangle someone (not the same as this case, as his crimes were a number of years ago), protecting and fighting for your children is a lot harder from prison.
I read a story in a woman's mag last week (so it must be true), about a woman who after finding out about her brother-in-law doing things to her daughter, went to his workplace and shot him dead.
Afterwards, she realised that she couldn't protect her from a cell room. She also mentioned (in about one sentence, of a 2 page spread:rolleyes:) that her daughter had many problems later, believing that it was her fault that her Mum was in prison, because she spoke out about the abuse.
It was a heavily one sided story, but even looking from any point of view, I couldn't really see any winners.
edit, about 10 post written since I starting writing that, so a little off topic
mr contrite 11-10-2008, 23:02 I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by the reaction of some people regarding this, from my point of view (having not had to have dealt with this sort of thing) i dont feel i could rest until i felt "justice" had been done, maybe the night owls on here are a different animal from the daylight habitees of this forum, and personally i hope whoever killed this man never gets caught.
I would do it and turn myself in knowing that I wouldn't have to suffer very long in prison. I hope the police don't spend too much time trying to trace his executioner but make a bit of effort till the press dies down.
I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by the reaction of some people regarding this, from my point of view (having not had to have dealt with this sort of thing) i dont feel i could rest until i felt "justice" had been done, maybe the night owls on here are a different animal from the daylight habitees of this forum, and personally i hope whoever killed this man never gets caught.
What is your definition of "justice" regards the op?
i dont feel i could rest until i felt "justice" had been done
Justice was done. He was convicted, sentenced, and served his time.
I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by the reaction of some people regarding this, from my point of view (having not had to have dealt with this sort of thing) i dont feel i could rest until i felt "justice" had been done, maybe the night owls on here are a different animal from the daylight habitees of this forum, and personally i hope whoever killed this man never gets caught.
This thread is fascinating... in a horrible sort of way. I'd like to think that I could abide by my belief in the sanctity of human life, even under such extreme provocation. I have an uneasy feeling that I wouldn't be able to do so... and that makes me feel a bit odd. The Hitler thing is a no brainer, despite what I have just said. One bullet to avoid such misery... I could do that. And I would possibly mete out "justice" to anyone who abused my children.
I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by the reaction of some people regarding this, i dont feel i could rest until i felt "justice" had been done, maybe the night owls on here are a different animal from the daylight habitees of this forum, and personally i hope whoever killed this man never gets caught.
Not sure if that was directed towards me :suspect:
If so, to answer the last sentence, I can't say I'll lose any sleep over the 'passing' of someone who has been charged with such crimes.
The part about 'justice', is a good point. What do you consider to be justice? A sentence of 6 years to me isn't enough for someone that is convicted of indecent offenses with children. But does that mean someone should be murdered? Nah, I think that the justice system is to blame if suitable punishment isn't given.
red_hearts 12-10-2008, 04:07 Good Riddance to the scum! It's a pity he wasn't sorted out earlier!
happyhippy 12-10-2008, 05:00 I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by the reaction of some people regarding this, from my point of view (having not had to have dealt with this sort of thing) i dont feel i could rest until i felt "justice" had been done, maybe the night owls on here are a different animal from the daylight habitees of this forum, and personally i hope whoever killed this man never gets caught.
Strangely, that's one of the things which irritates me about the vengeful sorts. You have absolutely no idea what you're on about.
I've already talked about things like this on this very forum from the perspective of someone who has had to deal with it, and believe me, the death of a perpetrator doesn't come close to the death of a life which victims have to survive.
I think about things on certain days; I don't on others. Would the death of a perpetrator make me think any differently? No. Of course it wouldn't.
Would it mean that I thought they'd got away with it? Actually, yes. It would. If people thought more about what happens to those who get left behind (not just victims, but families, etc), rather than equalling the brutality which had happened, maybe we'd move further on.
pk014b7161 12-10-2008, 08:22 good riddence to bad rubbish
Justice was done. He was convicted, sentenced, and served his time.
Obviously someone didn't see it that way and just made sure.
cgksheff 12-10-2008, 08:36 You'd never have guessed .... he looks so 'normal' when seen at Number 10!
pk014b7161 12-10-2008, 08:37 until realistic punishments are handed out i think we may see more of this sort of thing
cressida 12-10-2008, 08:48 As I believe murderers should be in prison for life even though I would feel like killing one I wouldn't as I would by my own belief have to go to prison
I think about things on certain days; I don't on others. Would the death of a perpetrator make me think any differently? No. Of course it wouldn't.
Indeed, HH. I recall you making a similar point before. Oddly I don't think I've ever seen anyone of the people who express delight in the idea of revenge killing make a reasoned response to your view.
Would it mean that I thought they'd got away with it? Actually, yes. It would. If people thought more about what happens to those who get left behind (not just victims, but families, etc), rather than equalling the brutality which had happened, maybe we'd move further on.
I agree entirely; sadly many people seem (understandably, I suppose) from being able to see any further than an instinct for violent retribution. But in ignoring the views of people who've been the victims - in thinking for them, without bothering to ask them what they might want and need, they do all of us a disservice.
boyfriday 12-10-2008, 10:06 Whilst not wanting to sound like i condone this act, i read this and wondered if a paedophile had committed an act on a child of mine, would i be able to commit murder on the offender, and the answer was....yes.
Could others feel that they too could commit the ultimate crime for this sort of offence, and are there other offences deemed evil enough to warrant handing out a summary execution?
This is an interesting post, we all share a common indignation for people that commit bestial acts against children, when it's personalised the irrational instinct to want to kill the perpetrator is understandable, but such an outcome would be wrong, in my opinion.
That's one of the reasons administering justice is taken out of the hands of the victim or their famililes and the responsibility passed to a group of independent, average/normal people.
I think the fact that most posters feel they could kill somone who hurt one of their own children, but not someone who hurt someone else's, illustrates the fact that deep down we know such action would be wrong.
boyfriday 12-10-2008, 10:12 Good Riddance to the scum! It's a pity he wasn't sorted out earlier!
If it was a case of murder committed by vigilantes, how does people taking the law into their own hands and committing the ultimate crime, advance the progress of human kind?
pk014b7161 12-10-2008, 10:15 if the law would see to these beasts in the first place we wouldn,t need things like this to happen
Paedophile: Gordon Boon abused young girls
An elderly paedophile found strangled in woodland may have been the victim of a vigilante revenge attack, police believe.
Gordon Boon, a registered sex offender, was killed while on licence from prison.
Detectives were last night investigating whether the 73-year-old was murdered because of his past crimes against a girl of eight and two aged 13.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1076204/Police-hunt-vigilante-strangled-known-paedophile-parole-dumped-woods.html
Whilst not wanting to sound like i condone this act, i read this and wondered if a paedophile had committed an act on a child of mine, would i be able to commit murder on the offender, and the answer was....yes.
Could others feel that they too could commit the ultimate crime for this sort of offence, and are there other offences deemed evil enough to warrant handing out a summary execution?
Has anyone noticed his name :suspect:
If it was a case of murder committed by vigilantes, how does people taking the law into their own hands and committing the ultimate crime, advance the progress of human kind?
I don't think it does. As Ghandi once said if you demand an eye for an eye all you will end up with is a blind world.
melthebell 12-10-2008, 10:32 Has anyone noticed his name :suspect:
gordon boon??
:huh: :help:
gordon boon??
:huh: :help:
I read it as brown at first...
melthebell 12-10-2008, 10:38 aaaaaaaah TCH, no wonder i was consfuddled :P
shakeyblade 12-10-2008, 10:40 i condone it, its 1 less on the panet
melthebell 12-10-2008, 10:42 2 posts, 1 missing L
:P
melthebell 12-10-2008, 10:45 people frothing at the mouth about peadophiles miss a few interesting points
1: tell me honestly.......if a member of your family was the peado involved (say your dad) could you honestly say you wouldnt miss him, feel sadness for a member of your family?
2: is it worse for a peado to be killed? or to be either kept in prison? or indeed "free" always on the lookout, thinking your going to be killed, hurt?
3: which is actually worse? murderer or being a peado? is there a difference? are both the ultimate crimes?
Jabberwocky 12-10-2008, 10:48 It cuts me to the quick to learn that this poor child molester has been cruelly murdered and the thought of him being murdered for doing something he loved makes my poor heart weep.
All he wanted to do was make himself happy and sate his twisted lusts at the expense of the safety and sanity of little children- now, what could be so wrong with that?
It was written once that a child molester has problems showing his love for children and sexually assaulting one was his way of showing that love and if that should end or ruin the life of someone else then thats a fair price to pay.
Its sexual assault by a monster as far as the rest of us are concerned, but for the pervert, its the poor dears only way of demonstrating his love.
Its a pity they cant all be found dead in a ditch, I doubt a hell of a lot of people would
shed a tear, I know I wouldnt.
Agent Orange 12-10-2008, 10:48 I'd like to believe it's a choice I'd never have to make.
Exactly! If I was ever in that position, I would like to believe that I would be there for my child, supporting and loving, rather acting in a selfish manner by dishing out punishment to the perpetrator of the crime. I say selfish cos by doing harm to that person is not going to change things other than make yourself feel better and what's more it will only result in you being imprisoned and that's where the selfish part comes into it as you wont be there for your child when they need you the most.
Dont get me wrong, paedophiles are vile creatures and deserve punishment, but I dont believe in people taking the law into their own hands by bypassing the legal system. The people who commited this crime are no worse than any other person who decides to murder. It's not acceptable whatever the circumstances.
pk014b7161 12-10-2008, 10:52 well lets keep child rapist,s locked up where they wont be hurt and more to the point where they cant hurt anymore children
In our increasingly "liberal" society more attention is paid to "rehabilitating" and "understanding" offenders than providing a suitable deterrent to their crimes.
People are going to take the law into their own hands when the law doesn't deal adequately with offenders and give society the protection it deserves.
One less paedophile on the street is good news for all children and parents - it's just a shame that people have to take criminal actions to deal with problems existing within our society that the "Pinkos" won't face up to but have helped create.
melthebell 12-10-2008, 11:55 In our increasingly "liberal" society
HAHA whered you get that from??
this countries turning more and more into a police state.......NOT liberal :loopy:
with more and more cameras, id cards, databases, snooping, laws, bans, agencies
not that any of it actually works tho tbh :P
cressida 12-10-2008, 16:34 They are a danger to children and for that reason alone should be considered a risk, whether tagging would be effective I don't know, with regard to those who havn't actually committed an offence, but with those who have and would commit offences again, surely they have to be kept in a secure prison.
HAHA whered you get that from??
this countries turning more and more into a police state.......NOT liberal :loopy:
with more and more cameras, id cards, databases, snooping, laws, bans, agencies
not that any of it actually works tho tbh :P
It's liberal enough to be soft on crime, drugs, homosexuality, it allows entry to immigrants without checking their police records - and allows radical Muslims to preach hatred with impunity - but then Labour does rely on "minorities" votes.
Cameras, ID cards, databases, snooping, laws, bans, agencies etc. are just as much about revenue collection as security - although many of the laws now imposed upon us are a direct result of directives from our Euromeisters - whose agenda may well be to create a police state.
rivetting,so one waste of space is no longer amongst us,im sure it wont effect my life or the life of many others,but at least the children have one less pervert to worry about and parents can rest a little easier in their beds at night in that area.
It's liberal enough to be soft on crime, drugs, homosexuality, it allows entry to immigrants without checking their police records - and allows radical Muslims to preach hatred with impunity - but then Labour does rely on "minorities" votes.
Cameras, ID cards, databases, snooping, laws, bans, agencies etc. are just as much about revenue collection as security - although many of the laws now imposed upon us are a direct result of directives from our Euromeisters - whose agenda may well be to create a police state.
You will be pleased then to know that Labour since coming to power has increased sentencing and has built so many prisons we have more prison spaces now per head than any other european country, at the same time Crime is falling.
You will be pleased then to know that Labour since coming to power has increased sentencing and has built so many prisons we have more prison spaces now per head than any other european country, at the same time Crime is falling.you are jesting.there are more soft sentances handed out today because of lack of prison space
you are jesting.there are more soft sentances handed out today because of lack of prison space
No I am not jesting. Prison sentences are up. They have had to release some early because one result of the increases in sentencing has been increased demnad for prison space, they filled them up. Don't worry though there is a huge prison build project going on with a load of huge Titan prisons being built that will allow the govt to further increase sentencing.
The shame of it is, that prisons doesn't rehabilitate. All we are doing by following the punitive line that people instinctively want is training up criminals for the future. The successes that have seen a reduction in crime are increasingly being undermined by the tougher sentencing.
CINDARELLA 13-10-2008, 15:19 Paedophile: Gordon Boon abused young girls
An elderly paedophile found strangled in woodland may have been the victim of a vigilante revenge attack, police believe.
Gordon Boon, a registered sex offender, was killed while on licence from prison.
Detectives were last night investigating whether the 73-year-old was murdered because of his past crimes against a girl of eight and two aged 13.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1076204/Police-hunt-vigilante-strangled-known-paedophile-parole-dumped-woods.html
Whilst not wanting to sound like i condone this act, i read this and wondered if a paedophile had committed an act on a child of mine, would i be able to commit murder on the offender, and the answer was....yes.
Could others feel that they too could commit the ultimate crime for this sort of offence, and are there other offences deemed evil enough to warrant handing out a summary execution?
THATS great news!! - its discusting how they get treat with all this name changing and moving them into nice posh houses BUT never telling the public were they are in case you live near them with children i think is terrible..
if sumone can do that to a child they deserve everything bad they get its juts a shame they get protection cos they do not deserve any of it.. and yes remember its the TAX PAYERS again who pay for pedos to get a fresh start when out of prison if the even get sentenced... our country law is a joke!
SUPERTYKE 13-10-2008, 15:28 Paedophile: Could others feel that they too could commit the ultimate crime for this sort of offence, and are there other offences deemed evil enough to warrant handing out a summary execution?
I could murder the swine that nicks my parking place.
This and the way paranoia, in respect of death and destruction waiting around every corner, is peddled by a controlling government who would prefer that you stayed home and switched to the BBC.
Never speak to strangers.
SUPERTYKE 13-10-2008, 15:44 You will be pleased then to know that Labour since coming to power has increased sentencing and has built so many prisons...
Let's not forget that 'Labour' is really, not Labour; but some kind of slimey, chameleon like creature - or maybe, more of a 'stalking horse' - that dupes people into thinking that they are voting for a party that respects it's social origins..wouldn't disgrace the giants who founded the party.
Then it starts to make sense - that the U.K sells contracts to build and run prisons to the highest bidder - or to those who offer the biggest back-hander - nudge nudge.
Therefore, the more prisons, the bigger the buck - like what America do.
What's that, American firms get an astronomical wodge of money out of our prisons?
How come? Do they OWN them or something?
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