I just caught the last 20 minutes or so of 'When Women Rule the World' on tv.

I hope that particular senario if never the complete norm in my lifetime.

Although I am a gobby, opinionated independent chick, I still like my man to be manly, and would never even entertain the thought of treating a bloke that way.

I may be caught in a bit of a contradiction, as I kind of have a 1950's mindset. as in - man gets up for work to perfectly ironed work clothes, then comes home from work to a freshly poured drink to unwind a bit, then gets served a delicious dinner.

Give me a man, and make him manly

(if work doesn't require ironed clothes, thats fine by me too)

I was just shocked at the way these horrid women were talking to and treating the guys - I wanted to slap the cows.

Does anyone else think that feminism is a little bit out of control?

.....and yes, I am ready for backash and am quite willing to discuss further.

What programme was this? I missed it, what channel was it on?


I don't think it has anything to do with feminism, there have always been women who have treated their partners badly, long before the 2nd wave of feminism. Also I suspect that many women who do treat them badly, would never in a million years consider themsleves to be feminists.

Oi wench, just be ready in't morning with my cuppa and a bacon sarnie. And if you're lucky I'll give you a good seeing to on't way out to work ;)

Is that manly enough for you or do you still have visions of me picking wildflowers? :)

I just caught the last 20 minutes or so of 'When Women Rule the World' on tv.

I hope that particular senario if never the complete norm in my lifetime.

Although I am a gobby, opinionated independent chick, I still like my man to be manly, and would never even entertain the thought of treating a bloke that way.

I may be caught in a bit of a contradiction, as I kind of have a 1950's mindset. as in - man gets up for work to perfectly ironed work clothes, then comes home from work to a freshly poured drink to unwind a bit, then gets served a delicious dinner.

Give me a man, and make him manly

(if work doesn't require ironed clothes, thats fine by me too)

I was just shocked at the way these horrid women were talking to and treating the guys - I wanted to slap the cows.

Does anyone else think that feminism is a little bit out of control?

.....and yes, I am ready for backash and am quite willing to discuss further.

My bold.


MARRY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D

Every mans ideal woman you Scozzie

I just caught the last 20 minutes or so of 'When Women Rule the World' on tv.

I hope that particular senario if never the complete norm in my lifetime.

Although I am a gobby, opinionated independent chick, I still like my man to be manly, and would never even entertain the thought of treating a bloke that way.

I may be caught in a bit of a contradiction, as I kind of have a 1950's mindset. as in - man gets up for work to perfectly ironed work clothes, then comes home from work to a freshly poured drink to unwind a bit, then gets served a delicious dinner.

Give me a man, and make him manly

(if work doesn't require ironed clothes, thats fine by me too)

I was just shocked at the way these horrid women were talking to and treating the guys - I wanted to slap the cows.

Does anyone else think that feminism is a little bit out of control?

.....and yes, I am ready for backash and am quite willing to discuss further.

Crumbs. Sorry I missed it, because I don't feel really able to comment.

I would second Suffy in saying that mainstream feminism has never sought to treat men badly, though - the focus has always been on improving the condition of women (which still needs work) - not trashing the opposite sex.

Still, this programme'll make a nice contrast to whatever Dawn Porter's latest show was - the one on buying brides. I was watching that from behind my hands.

Every mans ideal woman you Scozzie

Afraid not. My boyfriend wouldn't know what to do with himself if I ran around after him like a housemaid - we share things like laundry, cooking and mixing drinks (which takes priority over the non-essentials like ironing :)).

I'm sure he's not the only one, either.

Oi wench, just be ready in't morning with my cuppa and a bacon sarnie. And if you're lucky I'll give you a good seeing to on't way out to work ;)

Is that manly enough for you or do you still have visions of me picking wildflowers? :)

you weren't picking them, you were sitting amongst them, my sweet. :D

you weren't picking them, you were sitting amongst them, my sweet. :D

Awww...showing my sweet and tender side, for a change :)

Night
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Would you still feel this way Scozzie if you and your partner were working full-time?

I Saw about 5 minutes of this program the other week and wanted to headbut the tv, so i turned it off sharpish.

Crumbs. Sorry I missed it, because I don't feel really able to comment.


I do admit, I only saw a small part of the show too, but this is the impression I got from it. It was on channel 4.... with Steve Jones presenting - its the only reason I considered a peek at it (I do like eye candy)

I may have used 'feminism' a little too generally. I think this particular program is custom made for the chick who would see the male sex downtrodden and humiliated. - I'm all for the feminist movement and all that it has achieved, but I still like to feel that men are the dominant sex an that they can protect me (when my gobbiness gets me into trouble)

I do admit, I only saw a small part of the show too, but this is the impression I got from it. It was on channel 4.... with Steve Jones presenting - its the only reason I considered a peek at it (I do like eye candy)

I may have used 'feminism' a little too generally. I think this particular program is custom made for the chick who would see the male sex downtrodden and humiliated. - I'm all for the feminist movement and all that it has achieved, but I still like to feel that men are the dominant sex an that they can protect me (when my gobbiness gets me into trouble)

You're prepared to acknowledge your own contradictions, and that's a rare and wonderful thing :D There are lots of women who feel the same, I'm sure.

I'll try and catch it on a catch up site, just so that I can state with certainty that these women are hindering not helping the movement! There are bad apples in both sexes, that much has always been clear. I don't blindly support women on the basis of their gender (Sarah Palin being the best possible example at this stage).

Would you still feel this way Scozzie if you and your partner were working full-time?

i was living with a guy in Australia and my typical day was

when he was in the shower, I would set out his clothes and start on breakfast. while he was eating, I'd get ready for work and we'd leave at about the same time.
As soon as I got home, I'd start on dinner and have it ready about 1/2 an hour after he got in.

after about 8 or so, we'd either be bashing eash other sensless on the play station, or he'd sit in reading while I was off out somewhere with my mates.

I was 20 at the time, btw.

You're prepared to acknowledge your own contradictions, and that's a rare and wonderful thing :D There are lots of women who feel the same, I'm sure.

I'll try and catch it on a catch up site, just so that I can state with certainty that these women are hindering not helping the movement! There are bad apples in both sexes, that much has always been clear. I don't blindly support women on the basis of their gender (Sarah Palin being the best possible example at this stage).

If I didn't acknowledge my contradictions, I would be in a lot of bother. I make my opinions onmy impressions and experiences - but I am not opposed to learning new things that will possibly change my mind about something. Most of the time I can see value in both points of view, so am not willing to say that either point is wrong - or neccesarily right.

I think I may have to watchthe entire show on catch up too.

i was living with a guy in Australia and my typical day was

when he was in the shower, I would set out his clothes and start on breakfast. while he was eating, I'd get ready for work and we'd leave at about the same time.
As soon as I got home, I'd start on dinner and have it ready about 1/2 an hour after he got in.

after about 8 or so, we'd either be bashing eash other sensless on the play station, or he'd sit in reading while I was off out somewhere with my mates.

I was 20 at the time, btw.

Hmm. Would you follow the same arrangement now?

Hmm. Would you follow the same arrangement now?

YES!!
I have so many more recipes now. and yes, as long as he is the travelling type.
I had a great guy in York, but he didn't see the point in leaving Yorkshire. Old man at 23!!!:D and he only ate take away. :mad:

YES!!
I have so many more recipes now. and yes, as long as he is the travelling type.
I had a great guy in York, but he didn't see the point in leaving Yorkshire. Old man at 23!!!:D and he only ate take away. :mad:

Blimey, well as long as you're both happy with that arrangement. I'm not, nor will ever be a domestic goddess. I do 95% of the cooking but only because I get home before Mr S on the days I do work and obviously as we have children, dinner needs to be ready as soon as he walks through the door so the kids can eat and get to bed. Then the days I don't work I obviously cook. However, before the children came along it was pretty much 50/50.

I thought I'd watch this programme, expecting some sort of documentary. Instead, it's just another totally unreal "reality" show.

I only lasted about 2 minutes - until it got to the bit where it explained the 8 women/10 men on an island and then I stopped it. I would imagine it bears about as much relation to the reality of the relationship between the sexes as the Harry Potter books do to what happens at the average boarding school.

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I thought I'd watch this programme, expecting some sort of documentary. Instead, it's just another totally unreal "reality" show.

I only lasted about 2 minutes - until it got to the bit where it explained the 8 women/10 men on an island and then I stopped it. I would imagine it bears about as much relation to the reality of the relationship between the sexes as the Harry Potter books do to what happens at the average boarding school.

I didn't realise that that was the premise, it sounds dreadful. I despise these programmes and even more those who are willing to prostitute and humiliate themsleves for their 15 minutes.:rant::rant::rant:

I do all the cooking apart from breakfast - I am like Satan first thing in the morning so the toast would end up flung at the wall. I am a good cook so I don't want to eat microwaved pizza with pot noodle on the side, which is what I'd get for tea otherwise ;) I also do the laundry because I don't want the machine breaking, but I will only do shirt ironing if I have time after doing the baby's stuff.

I do most of the laundry as I'm here far than Mr S, I also do the majority of ironing although Mr S does do it sometimes it there's a real backlog.

Apart from the fact that I'd like to go and live at Scozzie's house and wallow in being treated like a child again. My mother used to do that for us when we were littlies :D

I've watched this prog a couple of times, last night in fact, I once again cauight the last 15 minutes of it. Believe me those men are the most objectionable, recalcitrant bunch of total tossers you could ever hope to meet. They spend their free time plotting silly little stunts like boys in the school playground.

To say that all they have to do is do as they're told for a few weeks to win £30k, which to most of them must seem like a fortune ... they can't seem to let go of their prejudice and bigotted attitudes to women even for that.
The two last night especially the little scouser :gag: how he survived this long god knows. They even had to slag off the women and high five one another in congratulation at their total loserhood ...

It's quite sad really.

I think that programme has as much to do with feminism as Big Brother has to do with social experimentation. Its all about shock value, bikinis and ratings.

Feminism is about the right to choose how you live your life. You choose to live like a 1950s housewife if it makes you happy. The point is you have decided to live like that, you havent been told to. In fact it sounds like you get a bit of a kick out of defying the 'modern way' - the option is there for you to live differently if you want to.

Ah. I thought it'd be some kind of documentary, not reality island idiot television...

Ah. I thought it'd be some kind of documentary, not reality island idiot television...

I'm appalled at that in itself. Is there not enough of this complete trash on TV already? I cannot understand the public appetite for it. It's akin to those who used to turn up at public executions and jeer and cheer. Madness.

I'm appalled at that in itself. Is there not enough of this complete trash on TV already? I cannot understand the public appetite for it. It's akin to those who used to turn up at public executions and jeer and cheer. Madness.Very true, I'm totally ashamed of myself ... but the women wear leopardskin, and get to wear a diamante crown when it's their turn to be Queen ... and, and, ermmmm ... :blush:

Apart from the fact that I'd like to go and live at Scozzie's house and wallow in being treated like a child again. My mother used to do that for us when we were littlies :D

I've watched this prog a couple of times, last night in fact, I once again cauight the last 15 minutes of it. Believe me those men are the most objectionable, recalcitrant bunch of total tossers you could ever hope to meet. They spend their free time plotting silly little stunts like boys in the school playground.

To say that all they have to do is do as they're told for a few weeks to win £30k, which to most of them must seem like a fortune ... they can't seem to let go of their prejudice and bigotted attitudes to women even for that.
The two last night especially the little scouser :gag: how he survived this long god knows. They even had to slag off the women and high five one another in congratulation at their total loserhood ...

It's quite sad really.

unfortunately, I'm a sucker for this type of guy.:loopy:
give me a 'nice guy' and I'd probably give him back. I wouldn't know what to do with him and I'd probably break him :huh:

unfortunately, I'm a sucker for this type of guy.:loopy:
give me a 'nice guy' and I'd probably give him back. I wouldn't know what to do with him and I'd probably break him :huh:

Good Lord, what do you envisage doing to him? :o :P

after about 8 or so, we'd be bashing eash other sensless on the play station



:shocked:

Is this what you mean by breaking them?