Are these people a law unto their selves or are we just mugs for coughing up our hard earned cash?
I had tooth ache and asked for the offending item to be extracted. (As I've grown older I dislike my visits less and less)
"Oh no sir" was the reply and a filling was put in place.

I'M PAYING FOR THIS DAMNED SERVICE.

Would you go into Kwik-Fit for tyres and happily pay for seat covers instead? I don't think so!:rant:

Anyone else had simular experiences?

I've had toothache recently (first time since I was 7) but I want to keep my tooth!! I would have thought a filling was better than extraction?

Originally posted by bonny
I would have thought a filling was better than extraction?

Agreed Bonny but it just gets my back up that you pay your money but dont get the job of your choosing done.
It would be akin to me being asked to build a garden wall then erecting a timber fence instead. :loopy:

Are you a private patient or NHS? If you are private then I assume they will do what you ask them to. If NHS then they do what is best.

Private or NHS. Do a patch job first then finish the job later.
Get paid twice for the one job.............or am I being bitter?:suspect::wink:

Originally posted by claycraft
Agreed Bonny but it just gets my back up that you pay your money but dont get the job of your choosing done.
It would be akin to me being asked to build a garden wall then erecting a timber fence instead. :loopy:

yeah..but they are trained professionals and its health based?? i wud always accept there opinion as not matter how we like to belive we are always right...sometimes you av to shut your mouth (or open it lol) and do what the pro's tell you. when it comes to medical matters...i just accept it and take the punishment (in pain and in the wallet)

Why should a dentist extract a tooth that can be saved? It's unprofessional and goes against all medical (and dental) ethics.

Maybe you just have a fear of the dentist claycraft? This is perfectluy understandable. Who amongst us enjoys a visit to the dentist?

In the words of Ogen Nash -

Some tortures are physical,
Some tortures are mental,
But the one that combines both
Must surely be dental!

Originally posted by MTheo
do what the pro's tell you.

MTheo...........I suggest you require a wall building, trust me, I'm a pro. Please send cash only to .......................:D :wink:

Originally posted by claycraft
MTheo...........I suggest you require a wall building, trust me, I'm a pro. Please send cash only to .......................:D :wink:

money sent ;)

Originally posted by redrobbo
Why should a dentist extract a tooth that can be saved? It's unprofessional and goes against all medical (and dental) ethics.

Maybe you just have a fear of the dentist claycraft? This is perfectluy understandable.

Because as a paying customer I asked him to.

I've never had a fear of having a tooth ripped from its jaw socket and it's attached nerve:wink:
No, really, honest I havn't.:lol:
It's the wallet extraction that follows:hihi:

Guess I'm gonna be toothless but loaded when I'm older:clap:

I think Sheffield dentists are better since they closed the abattoir - I could have sworn that's where they all used to train 15 years ago.

would you tell the doctor how to treat you?
"I don't care if you can put a cast on, I want that leg off"... Do you think they'd listen?

They would if you were a private patient.

Originally posted by claycraft
Because as a paying customer I asked him to.

I've never had a fear of having a tooth ripped from its jaw socket and it's attached nerve:wink:
No, really, honest I havn't.:lol:
It's the wallet extraction that follows:hihi:


Why don't you just do it yourself? A bit of string and a sturdy door handle... SLAM! No more teeth. Or a smack in the mouth with a wrench. That's always good.

I'm afraid I agree with some of the other posters. As a medical professional with a reputation, a livelihood and a professional code of practice to uphold, they can't just do what a 'paying customer' tells them to. Where would the madness end?

My NHS dentist would do as I asked him to - I've had a root canal done on one tooth, and had to have a crown when the tooth broke a couple of years later. but at each stage he went through all the options with me and explained the pros and cons.

Maybe his next patient had cancelled their appointment and he had a few minutes spare :D

Originally posted by Cyclone
would you tell the doctor how to treat you?
"I don't care if you can put a cast on, I want that leg off"... Do you think they'd listen?
I've got to agree, how about,

"My wife left me, life isn't worth living, just put me out of my misery Doctor"

No, they wouldn't do that either, even if you do go "Private". ;)

I got the choice from my NHS dentist. a) evil root filling or b) tooth out, i`m afraid i chose the tooth out option as i hate the dentist and would not have stood for the filling and the usual problems afterwards.

Originally posted by Cyclone
would you tell the doctor how to treat you?
"I don't care if you can put a cast on, I want that leg off"... Do you think they'd listen?

That made me spit tea at my monitor! :D

Dental work does annoy me sometimes. Last time I had a filling put in place, a month later my tooth pretty much fell apart. I went to a different dentist to get it sorted out. He was shocked by how badly the original job had been done. It's quite annoying that you pay for work to be done, but it doesn't come with any guarantee.

Ironically I need a bit of advice today because my daughter has just got back from the Dentist after having two teeth removed in prepeartion for a brace.

I have looked at the teeth and one of them appears to have had the root snapped and my daughter has said she thinks she still has some tooth left in and that was before she saw the missing root!

I can't look cos I will throw up. The dentist got a mirror and said oh that will be all right. Does it matter if the pointy bit of the tooth is still in the gum, I would have thought so myself. The dentist hurt my daughter and didn't have a great bedside manner so she will not go near him!!

I was wondering if any of you knew anything about this before I phone up and try to get another dentist to have a look because getting an appointment is like pulling teeth!!!! :hihi:

Originally posted by RichD
My NHS dentist would do as I asked him to - I've had a root canal done on one tooth, and had to have a crown when the tooth broke a couple of years later. but at each stage he went through all the options with me and explained the pros and cons.

This is a little different; in your case, the dentist put forward what he considered the possibilities to be, and let you pick. You didn't go in their demanding root canal just because you're a paying customer, and he didn't oblige that. The dentist was still in control, but he let you choose the specifics.

Originally posted by dawny1
Ironically I need a bit of advice today because my daughter has just got back from the Dentist after having two teeth removed in prepeartion for a brace.

I have looked at the teeth and one of them appears to have had the root snapped and my daughter has said she thinks she still has some tooth left in and that was before she saw the missing root!

I can't look cos I will throw up. The dentist got a mirror and said oh that will be all right. Does it matter if the pointy bit of the tooth is still in the gum, I would have thought so myself. The dentist hurt my daughter and didn't have a great bedside manner so she will not go near him!!

I was wondering if any of you knew anything about this before I phone up and try to get another dentist to have a look because getting an appointment is like pulling teeth!!!! :hihi:

i have had this problem twice in the last 2 years , the first tooth i cracked and never done anything about it till it hurt and the only option was it to be pulled, i got this done at charles clifford by a trainee under the watch of his teacher, the instant relief was great.. next day my mouth was so swollen and sore and i had a bit of something the space where the tooth was.. i went back and they looked at it said it would be ok and gave me some minging mouthwash... few days later it was more infected and was tasting pretty foul so i heated a pair of thin pliers and removed the bit of bone that was sticking out!!!!!. within 2 days it had started to heal..

next was a few months ago and i had to have a tooth removed as it was brittle, tooth removed and same problem as above with regards to infection. after a few days i heated a needle and had a poke about and found a peace of tooth that was broken in my gum... out came the pliers and heated removed the piece of tooth which was quite large and healed within a few days...
i would either go back and demand it be removed or try it yourself but only if it does not heal within a few days

:gag: :gag: You brave person - heating pliers what are you an ex female member of the SAS. There is no way I could do that I have given birth 4 times with no pain relief and would rather go through that again anyday.

I will get my bloke to have a look in her mouth see what he thinks cos I can't even bring myself to have a look I have a fear of Dentists I'm afraid and don't want to put my kids off from going by running down the road throwing up!!!

Originally posted by dawny1
:gag: :gag: You brave person - heating pliers what are you an ex female member of the SAS. There is no way I could do that I have given birth 4 times with no pain relief and would rather go through that again anyday.


i generally hate dentists, it something my mum has passed down to us as she is petrified! just like when i loved flying until she came with us once and cried all way now i am wary:suspect:
anyway back to the point!
it was less painful than the dentist poking around and anyone who has had toothache knows you would do anything to get rid of it:loopy: :hihi:

they will fill it instead of extracting it as this means that eventually you have to return for more work on it,its like ensuring they have work in the future,job security...........

Originally posted by dial
I got the choice from my NHS dentist. a) evil root filling or b) tooth out, i`m afraid i chose the tooth out option as i hate the dentist and would not have stood for the filling and the usual problems afterwards.

Now that's more like it. Having a choice in options, especially if the pros and cons are explained to you up front, sounds far better than "This is what you're having, like or lump it and give us your cash":thumbsup::clap:

MODS why the topic title change?
"Dirty, Rotten, Scoundrels" never did Steve Martin and Michael Caine any harm :huh::loopy:

Dawny1,
have you thought that the bit that's left might be an adult tooth waiting to erupt? And not anything to do with the extracted tooth..

Originally posted by muddycoffee
Dawny1,
have you thought that the bit that's left might be an adult tooth waiting to erupt? And not anything to do with the extracted tooth..

The thing is we have the extracted tooth since we need it for the tooth fairy!!! I know, she is 14 but come on she gets £1.00 from the Tooth Fairy you know!! Anyway if you look at the tooth you can see it is broken off!!

Originally posted by dawny1
The thing is we have the extracted tooth since we need it for the tooth fairy!!! I know, she is 14 but come on she gets £1.00 from the Tooth Fairy you know!! Anyway if you look at the tooth you can see it is broken off!!

If its only a small bit I wouldn't worry about it too much, I had the same thing when I had 4 teeth extracted as I have weird curly tooth roots. The dentist decided that digging around in my jaw with a drill for over an hour was proving to be too distressing and left it, and about a week later the small pieces of tooth worked their way out (which was sooooo gross!). If it is painful/swollen or tastes funny though it may be infected and that would need looking at.