View Full Version : Gangsta Rap, Outlaw Chic and Their Social Consequences


LordChaverly
14-05-2005, 20:18
In itself, music is morally neutral, but when allied to lyrics it can be anything but so. A classic example of this is 'gangsta rap', which has frequently been accused of legitimising, even applauding, criminal and anti-social behaviour of one kind or another. Just as Wagnerian opera has been described as music to invade countries by, gangsta rap might be viewed as providing the perfect libretto to thug life. The defenders of the genre argue that it does no more than reflect the realities of life within a certain sub-culture, i.e. the ghettos of America’s big cities. Thus some of the most accomplished exponents of the genre such as Snoop Dogg, Ice T, Tupac Shakur, Biggie Smalls, Puffy Combs, 50 Cent and DMX had criminal records for violence, drug dealing and other crimes before and indeed after they became famous (this is one genre where a criminal record for thuggery and drug dealing probably helps). The story of gangsta rap is also littered with some of its most famous or infamous stars being shot or even killed (Tupac and Biggie), or busted for drugs and other offences (Snoop, 50 Cent, DMX etc).

It has been argued that the genre could be a malign influence on certain vulnerable or impressionable groups or individuals, not through the neutral representation of thug life, but through the glorification of it. Thus the role model exemplified in a typical gangsta rap song is of a strutting, swaggering, street smart, finger jabbing, sneering, gun-toting, drug dealing, coke snorting, women abusing gang leader, who will shoot anybody who gets in his way. The argot of the genre has also developed a vocabulary of disparaging terms for others groups; thus women are bitches or ho's, white people are crackers and gays are chups, chi chis or bitch asses etc. Similarly, prolific use of the ‘n’ word (transmuted into a laudatory noun) and of the ‘f’ word are de rigueur in gangsta rap songs. The lyrics of gangsta rap are hardly noted for their subtlety or morally uplifting tone and the same can be said for the accompanying music, which tends to be comprised of a rough, monotonous pulsating 4/4 beat and various noises off (chimes, police sirens, gunshots, screams, barking pitbulls etc).

Why do people buy it? I suspect it has to do with outlaw chic, and the need for people to walk on the wild side a little, or perhaps to appear street smart and tough. This is even reinforced by the videos and CD covers, which tend to favour pictures of the artists covered in tattoos and adopting various Tysonesque poses. It is probably true that some followers of the genre are gangsta wannabees or posers, a class disparagingly referred to by 50 Cent (‘Fiddy’) in one of his songs about his rivals as ‘****stas’. It might be argued that listening to gangsta rap is no more corrupting than say watching the Sopranos or a Tarantino movie. People who watch Reservoir Dogs it is often argued, don’t come out of the cinema wanting to cut someone’s ears off. The flaw in this argument however, is that at least some people do, perhaps because they are predisposed towards violence and this tips them over the edge. . For example, there was a notorious case in Scotland of a youth who was tortured and stabbed to death by other youths, to the accompaniment of ‘Stuck on You’. I fear the same might be the case with gangsta rap – most of the people who listen to it are probably well adjusted and can distinguish fantasy from reality. But a small minority probably can’t. Therein lies the problem.

‘Outlaw chic’ of course is nothing new. For example, the fame of the great blues singer Leadbelly was probably reinforced by his reputation as a very violent man with a long criminal record. But unlike the gangsta rappers, Leadbelly never extolled the virtues of thug life in his songs – instead he sang love songs, folk songs and blues. The image projected by the gangsta rappers though is of people who not only sing of the gangsta life, but continue to live it to some extent, perhaps to maintain their street credibility or perhaps they can’t help it (for example when the police raided DMX’s home they found he was keeping 13 pitbulls. His projected visit to the UK last year had to be cancelled because he was under arrest again).

Do the gangsta rappers and their corporate sponsors (i.e. the record labels) have a moral responsibility for the potentially malign social consequences of their lyrics? Given that 50 Cent was offered a million dollar contract to sign for Eminem’s label, and that his first CD on Shady Records (‘Get Rich or Die Tryin’) was tantamount to a eulogy of gangsta life, there is a strong case for arguing that they do. Should it be banned? In the UK recently, the Beanie man has been forced to cancel his concerts in London because of his homophobic lyrics. On principle, I am against censorship. In any case, there is a ton of the stuff out already there in the public domain, so I don’t think banning it would do much good. I think it will probably die a death, not because of its limited and malign world view, but rather because of its very limited range i.e. because it tends to be so repetitive, monotonous and cliché ridden.

Kthebean
14-05-2005, 20:37
I have to say that the 'gangsta rappas' you cite such as 50 cent and Eminem are big money label 'artists', and their images are carefully maintained to make sure people think they're badass. They are as manufactured as take that.

Some would say that gansta rap is a reflection of real life. This is true if you're from compton but I think its mostly listened to by spotty white teenage boys from the midlands. It won't have much of an effect on kids, I don't think.

I get sick of the music I listen to being slagged off by people who have never properly listened to it - a lot of hip hop for example Roots Manuva, J5, Talib Kwelli, etc, is more uplifting and has a positive message for young people.

miniminch
14-05-2005, 21:18
Your thread minded me of the lovable rappers and all round bad eggs, NWA. They were the real deal whose CDs could spark near riots on the streets. Eminem, tends to continue in this vein, thanks, in part, to ex NWA star Dr Dre who gave up his Compton practice to become a 'bad boy' rapper. Their style is tongue in cheek and very cartoon bookesque.
By contrast, 50 cent (real name:Arthur Dollar) is just cronically dim and takes it all too seriously and is subsequently 'bottled' off stage by a more discerning UK audience: as was the case at the Reading festival.
I think your arguement is getting the 'cart before the horse' somewhat. Or as Snoop Dodgy Dog would say the 'cartier befo da ho's.' There are stupid, pastey skined, ill-educated people who think violence is recreation therefore there is this music. The music does not create these people.
If you banned the music they would take their inspiration form another source. (prob C4 documentary about Joy mugging or happy slapping or whatever) The secret fix is to educate people that there is a positive and reasonable approach to life and that the road least travelled is the one to choose.
I happen to think Eminem is a positive and uplifting role model for the yooff of 2day. After all, in the name of sweet loving there is nothing wrong in wanting to **** tha police:love:

Fingers
15-05-2005, 14:26
When I was a kid in the 1970's some white men used to seek fame for fortune by trying to perpetuate negative stereotypes of black people. They were called comedians.

Nowadays some black people seek fame and fortune by trying to perpetuate negative stereotypes of black people. They are called gangsta rappers and they are so much better at it that the comedians of the 1970s because they say that the events they describe are real and they know that because they were involved in those events.

There's nothing like progress...

timo
16-05-2005, 14:51
Gangsta Rap, with its charming references to Uzi's out of control, booty hoes, and col'lampin [whatever the latter may be; is it some sort of salad vegetable?] , has never 'caused' a single millisecond of trouble on his vale of tears. Human beings, or conscious, sentient social actors, if you will, with 'free will' or 'agency' cause the problems. Only human beings have the ability to formulate, and act upon decisions, i.e, in this case whether to commit crimes etc. The music itself has no 'agency', but is used as an excuse.

Lord Chaverly's reference to Wagner is a good case in point. I might listen to Der Fliegende Hollander and see a glimpse of eternity, and experience music that is capable of transforming time itself. Afterwards, in a good temperament, I might pat my Bull Terrier, kiss my lissom wife on her pouting lips, and bask in a glow of deep, spiritual happiness. Warped, personality-disordered types might listen to the same, beautiful, sonorous, heavenly music, and afterwards don the replica SS gear, and embark upon a night baiting and tormenting ethnic minorities. The music can be interpreted in different ways by different personalities. To hold Rap artists responsible for the crimes committed by recidivists who happen to be 'rap fans' is akin to prosecuting a shop for selling a cooking pot, after some demented murderer has used it to cook children in. It is how individuals, with agency, choose to interprete the music.

Re Miniminch's view of Eminem as a 'positive and uplifting role model' for young people; I personally do not consider a musical entertainer who urges the young to 'f*** the Police' to be someone to especially aspire to, unless, of course one possesses similar talent. The problem is, there are so many untalented, hooded grotesques out there. They parrot Eminemesque phrases, without possessing any of the man's lyrical brilliance. Eminem can get away with it, and redeems himself. The chavs that imitate him just make the world a darker, danker place. Having said that, it would be a dull world if 'yoof' modelled themselves upon cardigan-clad, goody-goody Blue Peter presenters. 'Bum rush the wool shop' etc.

DanSumption
16-05-2005, 15:37
I recently read an interesting book which talks at length on this subject: Disconnected: Why Our Kids Are Turning Their Backs on Everything We Thought We Knew, by
Nick Barham (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0091895863/sumptionorg-21). The author spent a year travelling around the UK, hanging out with members of various youth "tribes" and interviewing them. Although he does come across as something of an apologist for any type of youth culture, I have to agree with him that this kind of thing is nothing new and that young people have enough sense to recognise that song lyrics report violence rather than trying to encourage it.

In fact, the most inspiring voices in the book are those of the kids themselves, most of them come across as quite articulate with a lot more savvy than most of their adult critics. They say things like:

When people say that music influences violence, it doesn't, it's just a way of expressing what goes on. It's like Picasso painting a picture. If he painted a picture of a man stabbing himself in the belly it's art
If there is a serial killer on the loose, they don't ring Stephen King and start telling him off about what he puts in his movies or books, because we all enjoy them. We go to the cinema, we know it's not real, we go home. But as soon as this happens with this subject, they are knocking on every musician's door - from Eminem to whoever

miniminch
16-05-2005, 18:03
'Sometimes I just feel like my father. I hate to be bothered...
with all of this nonsense. It's constant and "Oh, it's his lyrical content."
The song "Guilty Conscience" has gotten such rotten responses.
And all of this controversy circles me
and it seems like the media immediately
points a finger at me...
So I point one back at 'em but not the index or pinky
or the ring or the thumb. It's the one you put up
when you don't give a **** when you won't just put up
with the bull**** they pull 'cause they full of **** too.
When a dude's gettin bullied and shoots up your school
and they blame it on Marilyn ... and the heroin
where were the parents at? And look at where it's at...
Middle America
now it's a tragedy
now it's so sad to see
an upper-class city
having this happenin'.
Then attack Eminem
'cause I rap this way.
But I'm glad 'cause they feed me the fuel
that I need for the fire to burn,
and it's burnin' and I have returned.
Chorus
And I am, whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news, everyday I am.
Radio won't even play my jam.
'Cause I am, whatever you say I am.
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news, everyday I am.
I don't know it's just the way I am.
I'm so sick and tired of bein' admired
that I wish that I would just die or get fired
and dropped from my label. Let's stop with the fables.
I'm not goin' to be able to top what my name is.
And pigeon-holed in to some poppy sensation
that got me rotation at rock-n-roll stations.
And I just do not got the patience...
to deal with these cocky caucasians
who think I'm some wigga' who just tries to be black
'cause I talk with an accent and grab on my balls.
So they always keep askin' the same ****in' questions...
What school did I go to? What hood I grew up in?
The why, the who what, when the where and the how
'til I'm grabbin' my hair and I'm tearin' it out.
You've been drivin' me crazy. I can't take it.
I'm racin' I'm pacin'. I stand then I sit.
And I'm thankful for every fan that I get
but I can't take a **** in the bathroom
without someone standing by it...
You knew I won't sign your autograph
you can call me an asshole. I'm glad.
Chorus
'Cause I am, whatever you say I am
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news, everyday I am.
Radio won't even play my jam.
'Cause I am, whatever you say I am.
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news, everyday I am.
I don't know it's just the way I am.'
m Remember his real name is Marshall. Eminem is a character like slim shady!;)