Ive just read reports in the star about the disgusting use of racist chanting at hillsborough
This does not come much of a surprise after recently seeing a book on sale gloryfying the behaviour of mindless thugs who claim to be football fans following sheffield wednesday

Where was the book on sale?

This was totally exagerrated by the Star. There was a few individuals in the South stand making monkey gestures, it may have sounded like the rest of the ground were making monkey chants, but evryone was chanting for Drew Talbot by chanting"DREW, DREW, DREW".As Man united fans do when they Say RUUD for Van Nistelrooy. When lots of people are chanting it may sound like O, O, O

Reginald so its ok just to have a few making racist chants ?

In answer to the above 3 comments
1 Mr 1889 if you actually read all the book it states on several occaisions that wednesday are not racist and doesn't glorify violence unlike that book by a certain Mr Cowens a few years ago.

2 you can buy the book in waterstones it is called "Flying with the Owls Crime Squad" by Paul Allen

3 I agree with reginalds comment entirely about the Drew chant and actually emailed the Star with the same explaination which can be seen in todays edition.

previous comment by me and not glitterbug

owl74 or aka glitterbug, monkey chants are quite easy recognised compared to the chanting of drew , we hear man utd (swfc of lancarshire) chant ruuuuuuuud and it sounds nothing like monkey chants or im sure tv viewers would have complained long b4 now,Dont stick up for racists KICK EM OUT

Originally posted by mr1889
owl74 or aka glitterbug, monkey chants are quite easy recognised compared to the chanting of drew , we hear man utd (swfc of lancarshire) chant ruuuuuuuud and it sounds nothing like monkey chants or im sure tv viewers would have complained long b4 now,Dont stick up for racists KICK EM OUT

although i found the man utd jibe of wednesday quite funny, this is quite a foolish post from a blade.

come on mate, i believe when wednesday sing for drew, its more

DREW DREW DREW

whereas man utd sing more ruuuuuuuudddd

as we united to do the guuuuuus chant for gus uhlenbeak

i am willing to be corrected though

Robbie_lovin not quite so funny if your of ethnic race even just to have one doing it ......you ever heard of no smoke without fire

mr1889

Let me clarify something

i was in the stand where the supposed racist chanting was coming from, I was at in the row it was supposedly coming from.

Simply put, the chants were NOT happening. From what I have seen from the television, there seems to have been a point where one fan (not excusing them at all) was making a racist gesture, or mouthing something racist.

This person was the only person I saw, both while at the match and when viewed on video later. As I have said earlier, it is simply a sensationalist local media looking for something other than local charity events to put on their pages/radio show

I'm not saying there isn't any racism at Sheffield Wednesday, a small minority on any population is going to be bigoted and ignorant, but lets not tar either of Sheffield football teams by saying they have a racism problem. It is simply not true.

As for the incident which is supposedly spurred all the racist chanting. It is true that the player in question was black, yes it was true that pretty much all of the Sheffield Wednesday fans there were booing at him. What isn't true is that they were booing at him because he was black, they were booing because he had just made, what many believe (including myself) a career ending foul on one of Sheffield Wednesday's players.

Lets not mess about here, if you don't want to have abuse hurled at you from opposing fans, you don't go and commit fouls like that, regardless of the colour of your skin.

Wilf

I wouldnt for a minute want to condone what this one stupid T***er did on the night,but I find it a bit galling that something that ALL sheffielders should be ashamed of,is being used as yet another stick with which to beat Sheffield Wednesday from certain united fans:roll:

I am the author of the book that was being attacked by the blinkered blade. Once again the only criticism generated toward the book is from someone that has not read it!!!!!!!

The book does not seek to glamourize violence, and nor does it seek to spread racism. Wednesday fans are no more racist than Sheffield United supporters, or any other.

UTO

Just because you might one person at hillsbrough, making racist remarks, does not make us all racist thugs!
As a life long wednesday supporter i can say i have never seen or heard any other supporter who sits around/near me chant anything racist, an indivdual does not make a majority!!:loopy:

wednesday fans have always been racists the blades have by tradition more black fans more black hooligans more black players

Originally posted by ferretfatcam
wednesday fans have always been racists the blades have by tradition more black fans more black hooligans more black players

Load of twaddle :loopy:

You've got one mighty big chip mate!

Originally posted by ferretfatcam
wednesday fans have always been racists the blades have by tradition more black fans more black hooligans more black players

thats bang out of order , i really hope you have the evidence to back up your claim or is that asking too much

Originally posted by ferretfatcam
wednesday fans have always been racists the blades have by tradition more black fans more black hooligans more black players You cant go round saying things like that, its stuff like that, that will cause more harm to football, one fool doesnt make us all fools...... what does it matter what colour skin a player has?? your out of order mate! I welcome any man to put on a blue/white shirt and play for my beloved wednesday, no matter what colour his skin is or where he comes from!!

I don't know that United have had more black players than Wednesday, or that they have more black fans. Fatferret is on a wind up, and not a very good one at that. I can tell you that I know of two or more people who support United who were very much into the NF stuff during the 80's. I don't know anyone from S6 with that background.

Originally posted by OntarioOwl
I am the author of the book that was being attacked by the blinkered blade. Once again the only criticism generated toward the book is from someone that has not read it!!!!!!!

The book does not seek to glamourize violence, and nor does it seek to spread racism. Wednesday fans are no more racist than Sheffield United supporters, or any other.

UTO

good read mate,i borrowed "mr x's" copy a few weeks ago,althoughn i do beg to differ on a few of the incidents but i would say the being a blade:D :D

Originally posted by OntarioOwl
I am the author of the book that was being attacked by the blinkered blade. Once again the only criticism generated toward the book is from someone that has not read it!!!!!!!

The book does not seek to glamourize violence, and nor does it seek to spread racism. Wednesday fans are no more racist than Sheffield United supporters, or any other.

UTO

Its a good read pal. Better than pinocchio Cowens' book.

i'm not condoning it but every club has racists and until societies view changes there will always be racists in football. Unfortunately!!!!!!:(

as a Blade I have to say that I've never heard or heard people talk about racist chanting at Hillsborough.

I would like to say that i think mr1889 is just a wind up merchant blade who likes to try and goad us owls because we are (and he knows it) superior. It's laughable coming from a blade when they have a reputation as being shall we say "not very friendly". People in glass houses and all that.

by the way I have been a wednesayite for over 25 years and have been home and away and never once heard racist chanting

I think to be fair,neither of the sheffield clubs has a monopoly on racist behaviour,because as I put in an earlier post,its a society problem,not a football problem.Im just glad that this idiot who was caught has been dealt with.

*EDIT*Sorry,should have been posted as Annoni_mouse-logged in on wrong computer:rolleyes:

A bit of trivia for you all...
Why do United fans post on here about Wednesday more than they do the Blunts? Us Wednesdayites don't post anything about them unless they start a topic about us!!!

Are racist thugs back at Hillsborough? yes Feb 18th '06 when UTD fans turn up :suspect:

I hope to get my hands on a copy of the book soon. Hope it doesn't glorify violence like that book about the Blades Business Crew by Steve Cowens appeared to do. That book almost made me feel embarrased to be a Blade and I got rid of it as soon as I had read it! lol. :mad:

They start em young at Hillsborough. The ten year olds behind us for the masters matches at the arena on Sunday were shouting 'kick 'im!' 'Brek 'is legs', and to the cheerleaders - 'show me something I don't know about!' :loopy: :suspect: :roll:

Originally posted by Strix
They start em young at Hillsborough. The ten year olds behind us for the masters matches at the arena on Sunday were shouting 'kick 'im!' 'Brek 'is legs', and to the cheerleaders - 'show me something I don't know about!' :loopy: :suspect: :roll: Thats just typical kids for ya though!

*reads above signature twice*

Point proven - it's inbred :suspect:

Originally posted by Strix
They start em young at Hillsborough. The ten year olds behind us for the masters matches at the arena on Sunday were shouting 'kick 'im!' 'Brek 'is legs', and to the cheerleaders - 'show me something I don't know about!' :loopy: :suspect: :roll:
like its any different at any other football club???:loopy:

Originally posted by Strix
*reads above signature twice*

Point proven - it's inbred :suspect:
why do i get the feeling your having ago at the wednesday fans??? All the so called "above signature" reads to me is that its from a wednesday fan...... not a racist!!!

Originally posted by madowl
like its any different at any other football club???:loopy:
Oh well, that makes it all right then :roll:

And just for the record - I haven't heard such nonsense in the Centenary stand at Anfield :thumbsup:
(Plety of moaning about our own players, but no aggression towards others :suspect: )

Originally posted by Strix
Oh well, that makes it all right then :roll:

And just for the record - I haven't heard such nonsense in the Centenary stand at Anfield :thumbsup:
(Plety of moaning about our own players, but no aggression towards others :suspect: )

Oh come on Strix youre not seriously suggesting that ONLY sheffield wednesday fans slag off other teams players,are you?

No. But inciting violence is not acceptable anywhere

Originally posted by Strix
Oh well, that makes it all right then :roll:

And just for the record - I haven't heard such nonsense in the Centenary stand at Anfield :thumbsup:
(Plety of moaning about our own players, but no aggression towards others :suspect: )

Oh yeah, its that old nonsense that Liverpool fans are whiter than white. (excuse the pun). I've got one word for you- Heysel.

A topic you evidently know nothing about :roll:

Ignoring this thread from here onwards, as it's about Hillsborough, and I have no real interest in it

Which is why you have posted four posts on this one page alone. lol
As for my signature, why is that racist?!?!?

Originally posted by kelly_owls
Which is why you have posted four posts on this one page alone. lol
As for my signature, why is that racist?!?!? "Its not!" :thumbsup:

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Are you on about racism or a hoolie book? Every club has it's own book of memoirs of stand-offs and scraps at football matches - seems writing books about it is "in vogue" at the minute.

I've not read the Wednesday one yet, but if it's anything like Shaun Tordoff's "City Psychos" it'll make for a good read, drawing on music, cults and political climates of the time to jog the memory, and for those who grew up in S6 and surrounding areas, probably memories of old haunts from people's youth.

Lent the City book to a Wednesday fan and will read his copy of the Wednesday account when he gets around to lending it me.

And "hoolie" books often do refer to incidents of racism and so on - it happened. No need to go all pol-pot and erase it from history - it's a tradition that was part of football that is thankfully dying a death - although taking too long.

But football violence does not automatically mean racism - that's a "Daily Mail" myth - for crying out loud in Hull we had the egg-chasers vs the football - the east side of the river v the west side - sure there was the racism but that was only a small part of it. It was lads out for a ruck - not ingherently racist but unfortunately the NF of the time weren't as mindless as the trotskyist left would have people believe, and soon realised that a disaffected working class group out for adrenaline rush could be hijacked and given a direction and purpose by adding organised racism to the mix. The more militant left also joined in the mix and so eventually, moving forwards in time to the early 90s we had the right-wing mobs such as the Headhunters, to use a commonly-associated firm against the likes of the Man U "red attitude" zine mob who were very anti-fascist in their outlook.

I'm not justifying violence over football - I go to be entertained, hopefully to come away with the right kinds of resuilt after so long being used to the wrong sort of result - and actually fighting over it doesn't interest me one bit. But ignoring the fact that it has happened and still happens and probably will still happen, serves no real purpose.

The mentioned rise in racism at Hillsborough, if indeed it is on the increase (?) can in no way be attributed to the publishing of a book about football violence[

Having followed the owls for thirty years i have no recolection of any racists comments being used at any time while being at the match. The worst i have seen and heard always seems to be at away games in the london area, esp spurs and millwall . Ive been to many away grounds but these places were terrible esp in the 70s, what was a joke really tho was that to of the black owls team were getting abuse and three of the spurs team were black ?:loopy:

Originally posted by kelly_owls
Which is why you have posted four posts on this one page alone. lol
As for my signature, why is that racist?!?!?

Kelly, your post is not racist, only to non-blue and white owls.

I think Strix may be trying to get out of a hole by saying that but then again, it's only liverpool . . . what do they know eh?:hihi:

That makes me laugh yeah when some fans are being racist when they have several different-raced people in their team.

I would just like to sat that ive been going to hillsbrough for 32 years, (from the age of 3).. and i hate no other football club more that sheff utd, but having said that im not a football thug, i do talk to blades fans, they are human... ive even kissed one...to me the (silly boys) that like to put their fists where their mouths are, Are the fools, no one else... if you want trouble at football matches you will find it, if you want racist thugs you will find it at any football ground, not just at hillsborough... I am a better man to take it on the chin than to lower myself and hit back just for the sake of a football match..... i like the fun you can have between fans, takin the peeee out of each other etc, ive had many good away days watching football, and met some great people..... the thugs and racists are just a sad part of life that we have to put up with...

Mines a pint

hmmmm i hope not

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