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Who thinks this is a good idea? Personally I have to say I would love a international airport close than Manchester. It's just a shaem to me that they didn't make Sheffield Airport one. Sheffield Airport seems to have been such a waste.
i wouldnt want sheffield to have a international airport, imagine the noise! plus id be under the flight path :(
Suppose it would be alright, however I don't think it is needed as Manchester can cope with all the air traffic we have up here.
Sheffield airport was a good idea for small aircraft, but it was always a non starter for international flights as the terrain is not really suitable.
There isn't sufficient room for giant aircraft and nowhere to expand for more and extended runways. However, what are we talking about, it is the poor devils under the flight path who would suffer if there was an international airport there. :( :( :(
The noise might be annoying for some people, I personally would get used to it. I think it would be great for the city and bring jobs, opportunities and business. I also think that the airport which was built has the space to be a lot bigger than it acutally is. I mean have you seen the space around there. Imagine how much space there would be without all those businesses.
There has not been enough forsight Lickszz it is too late now to do much about it and I still say that it would need a lot more space than is available for an International Airport.
It is better to have a large airport on terrain that is more flat "SUCH AS" Finningley where there is room for very long and many different runways, also, I certainly wouldn't want to live under or near to a flight path. Too noisy for me!!! :o :o :o
Dr Feelgood 05-04-2003, 22:41 Did anyone read the Guardian today?
Well, I was delighted to read that John Prescott has given the green light for an RAF base at Finningley , near Doncaster to be developed into an international airport. The Guardian described it as "a second Manchester"
which will have international carriers flying in and out and also mentioned that Ryan Air is interested in expanding into the region. That could mean budget charter flights to the Continent. Supposedly work is due to start immediately on the runways.
I think this is fantastic news for the regeneration of the region. I mean approximately 7000 new jobs created , new hotels, more money flowing into the area. Sheffield would become more of an appealing destination for tourists, sporting events and international conferences alike.
Maybe I'm an eternal optimist but I think nothing could more significantly bring prosperity and the 'feelgood factor' back to South Yorkshire than this project. I really hope the plan comes to fruition.
For those interested more info available on
www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/
What do people think about this piece of news? :)
Phanerothyme 05-04-2003, 22:48 Well broaadly speaking I think it's good news.
2 drawbacks
1. Pollution
2.Noise
Especially because it has a very long runway, and will be able to accomodate intercontinental (i.e. very large) aircraft.
But it is very well situated for access north and south on road and rail (and even canal).
Yes, I have commented on this in the past. I welcome the idea, it's what the region needs.
does anyone know if the flightpath includes going over sheffield?
So would this render the existing airport redundant? Or is it already?
Dr Feelgood 07-04-2003, 17:15 Well, according to a quote by the Sheffield City Airport director on the Sheffield Today website, the new airport would not affect the City Airport at all because the latter is focussing "on general aviation business". I'm not exactly sure what that means. I guess it would be very stupid to build a new airport if the existing one could do the same job. The city Airport is supposed to be a business airport.
JonHarrison 10-04-2003, 13:05 Couldnt the CAA have just greenlighted a plan to increase the size of both East Midlands and Leeds Bradford?
Do we actually need Finningley or is because we expect passenger numbers to increase drastically in Yorkshire in the coming years? And before anyone points out - yes I know that East Midlands is in Nottinghamshire.
alchresearch 12-04-2003, 18:07 The city airport was a success for just a few short months after it opened. The Daily Mirror did a cheap/free flights offer which many, including myself, took advantage of.
Classing it as a 'business use' airport is a shocking waste. There are thousands of Sheffielders who would use the airport for short breaks if the chance of actually flying somewhere was possible.
It's size prevents use of Boeing 737 - the preferred aircraft type for low cost airlines. But, there are many other aircraft, such as the BAE 146 which some companies use. If these low cost carriers can fly them from Manchester to Dublin and mainland Europe, then why can't they do so from Sheffield?
I am very pleased that the old Finningley base is to get a new life, I have fond memories of the air show of 1987, but I feel that if more thought was made during the construction of the airport, then perhaps it would be more of a success story that it currently is. No disrespect to my old home town, but I don't feel that Sheffield businesses will make use of it as opposed to places like Leeds and Manchester.
Alright I suppose if you dont happen to live on the flight path. Don't see the need for one, plenty of airport's already.
Wouldn't support one myself, what about the poor soul's who live in that area? do they want one? doubt it.
alchresearch 24-04-2003, 21:59 Originally posted by "halevan"
Alright I suppose if you dont happen to live on the flight path. Don't see the need for one, plenty of airport's already.
Wouldn't support one myself, what about the poor soul's who live in that area? do they want one? doubt it.
It depends. Finningley village is nothing without the air base. I can't imagine what many of the locals did when it closed. I'm not sure how many years Finningley was open for, but I'm sure they were used to the noise. I bet, if anything, the silence is really odd for them!
Originally posted by "halevan"
Alright I suppose if you dont happen to live on the flight path. Don't see the need for one, plenty of airport's already.
Wouldn't support one myself, what about the poor soul's who live in that area? do they want one? doubt it.
you never know, saying how alot of the local mines and trades have gone a new airport is a good place for new jobs in the local community
davidgreen 09-05-2003, 11:09 I live near finningley(5 miles) but have always been in favour of this development. Sheffield was never located nin the right place for large aircraft otherwise I would have favoured it.
Doncaster has been over dependent on coal and railways and needs a boost which this airport will surely give. We were bedoming the distribution and call centre of the north - not many "real" jobs.
It has to be a welcome move in cutting down the traffic over Woodhead Pass etc. I bet residents of Sheffield will find it more convenient.
alchresearch 16-05-2003, 21:30 A quick half hour motor up the M18 is much better than the hassle of the Snake or Woodhead.
can you believe it's the 21st century and two of Englands largest cities are connected by nothing more than a couple of single carriage country lanes????
Originally posted by "alchresearch"
A quick half hour motor up the M18 is much better than the hassle of the Snake or Woodhead.
can you believe it's the 21st century and two of Englands largest cities are connected by nothing more than a couple of single carriage country lanes????
Some good points you make there. The Snake and Woodhead are dreadful roads. I found last time out I could not even get a mobile phone signal when going over the snake, probably the one place where you might need it if you breakdown.
alchresearch 19-05-2003, 10:53 Originally posted by "Lickszz"
The Snake and Woodhead are dreadful roads. I found last time out I could not even get a mobile phone signal when going over the snake, probably the one place where you might need it if you breakdown.
Not only that, but there are no regular public telephones. There are a number of farms but they all have signs on their gates telling you which way to go if you need a phone! And as there are no lights and no paths you are literally dicing with death if you get out.
The Woodhead is the worst place in the world on a weekday. I was caught behind a convoy of three lorries last week and it took me three hours to get across in total because only one of them could muster up 20mph. Surely this is illegal?
The Zeppelin 15-09-2003, 21:53 Mr Peel of Peel Holdings says it will be called Sheffield International Airport. I see his point about a big city name, but it's a fair way from the city, further than Speke is from Liverpool.
rickmiles85 16-09-2003, 10:59 Umm, I dont know about that. I can see loads of people objecting. Where abouts did you find/aquire this information?
Classic Rock 16-09-2003, 11:15 I saw this article in the Sheffield Telegraph at the weekend. Can you imagine the people of Doncaster!? They'd go mad!
South Yorkshire international airport is as vague as East Midlands, it needs a city to identify it better........I think Doncaster will expect their name to be on it.
well we are putting the most amount of money into it, so we deserve to have the name!
People down south will wonder why a little town like Sheffield has an International Airport... lol :lol:
~~
Person 1: "I've just got a bargain flight departing from Sheffield Airport"
Person 2: "Sheffield? Where's that? Cornwall ain't it?"
:P
alchresearch 16-09-2003, 11:43 The word "international" means referring to two or more nations. Considering you can't fly to any other nation from the airport, I think it is a poor choice of names.
Originally posted by alchresearch
The word "international" means referring to two or more nations. Considering you can't fly to any other nation from the airport, I think it is a poor choice of names.
i think you are confusing sheffield business airport at catcliffe with sheffield international at finningly ;)
rickmiles85 16-09-2003, 14:35 Hehe Imagine if it actually worked out and the rumours turn out to be true. We'd be the only city apart from London with 2 airports to the name ;-) pretty smart I think! :lol:
PaulTansley 16-09-2003, 14:50 I don't think Doncaster can moan if their name is not naming the airport. Sheffield has every right to have the airport named after it as its very close to Sheffield and we can have an airport which does'nt cause noise pollution over a big city.
London has 3 or 4 airports but they don't call it London airport, but if Sheffield does not name the airport then Finningley airport would be more fitting than Doncaster.
Liverpool re-named their airport after John Lennon.
Jarvis Cocker International Airport, anyone?
Slightly more seriously, Luton isn't in London, but i think the official name is London Luton Airport.
alchresearch 16-09-2003, 20:09 Originally posted by RPG
i think you are confusing sheffield business airport at catcliffe with sheffield international at finningly ;)
Ah, I see. It doesn't mention anything about Doncaster or Finningley in the title or any earlier posts.
chalicefc3 17-09-2003, 05:05 Well i think that it is fair to say that Sheffield Airport in Catcliffe isnt really an airport of grand proportions - blink and you might miss it. It is more of a municipule (sp.) airport
I was going to make the point of Luton until i read it there, London is a huge place and the satellite regions benefit from having the name of London in their airport title, but you'd be a little miffed at landing at an airport over 30 miles out of the city.
Sheffield Finningly Airport would be a fitting name for the airport, although its not officially in Sheffield. Donny will benefit from having a major city name association applied to their airport. Not being funny, but flights from Ibiza/ Nice to Doncaster just doesnt sound right - does it?
Bristol Airport's location is over 17 miles from the city, yet Bristol is not as big as Sheffield.
Consider that most major city airports are nowhere near to their cities, only strenghens the case that those cities hold aspirations to expand.
alchresearch 17-09-2003, 12:22 Humberside Airport is a decent name as it covers the whole area (despite it not being Humberside anymore).
Yorkshire International Airport sounds good, but because the area is so large, the name is a little vague. South Yorkshire I.A. is a bit of a mouthful.
Regardless of what it's called, you can guarantee that Sheffield Airport doesn't even take advantage of it by running a shuttle service.
Going on to your bit about siting the airport. I seem to recall that when Sheffield was first considering an airport back in the 20's, Coal Aston and Kiveton were considered. Our problem is the amount of hills in the area restricting where an airport could be sited. The nearest areas which are generally flat and unpopulated are just east of Junction 31 at Aston.
367squadron 30-09-2003, 16:46 36.1% of people want Finningley Airport to be named Doncaster Airport. Just makes me shreek at the 'unique' name of it. Click the URL to cast your vote. http://www.finairweb.co.uk/welcome.htm
I Like the sound of South Yorkshire or Yorkshire International Airport.
I'm officially flying from London to Brussels on Friday, but I'm actually flying from Stansted to Charleroi. Ryanair have the cheek to call Charleroi "Brussels South" airport, it's about the same distance south of Brussels as East Midlands is south of Sheffield...
Still, it's much cheaper than the alternative routes, even adding the train journeys on both ends.
Phanerothyme 01-10-2003, 14:43 How's about:
John Shuttleworth International Airport?
or even
The Peoples Airport of the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire?
alchresearch 01-10-2003, 19:10 Originally posted by Phanerothyme
How's about:
John Shuttleworth International Airport?
or even
The Peoples Airport of the Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire?
Definetly! I think we should build another airport so we can use both names!
Captain_Scarlet 03-10-2003, 22:42 Hi guyz.
Consider Tinsley/Sheffield city Airport, it's in the middle of nowhere, it's already there.
Finningley is like over near Doncaster, so it's kinda for the potential market it's aiming at; Sheffield.
so, as apparently Sheffield is loaded (not), why not use the current installations, modernise the exchange on the M1 (exit 33 i think), get the Parkway enlarged to Europa Link (the road that goes to the airport. I dare say there's enough room to build a large car park too ?
what d'ya think ?
Regards,
Greg
alchresearch 03-10-2003, 22:48 It's a great idea. Other cities around the world have put bigger roads into tunnels under things (check out the A55 road running under mountains at Penmaenmawr in North Wales), why not do the same with the parkway?
There was also no need to put buildings and factories along the side and at the end of the airport - preventing expansion.
Although I suppose the new houses being built have only been put up on condition the aiport is restricted.
Captain_Scarlet 03-10-2003, 23:17 They can pull Carcraft down...
Plus they have rubbish adverts :p
Greg
The runway at Sheffield is as long as it can be. Any longer and the rules say you would have to pull down a large part of Avesta Polarit. And Sheffield is still getting busier, despite this!
Finningley has a huge runway, plenty large enough for the biggest aircraft, with the prospect of a new rail link (or at least a new railway station on the existing line) direct from Sheffield to Finningley.
How can Sheffield airport be getting busier? I thought it had shut down because the runway was too short?
The runway might be too short for the big jets, but it is plenty long enough for smaller aircraft - and there are lots of those coming in and out at the moment. September was a record month for aircraft movements, with almost 1300 movements during the month. Not bad for a "closed" airport!
alchresearch 07-10-2003, 19:35 It's long enough for Fokker F50's and BAE 146's which can fly as far as the outskirts of Europe - surely candidates for Spanish holidays?
Captain_Scarlet 07-10-2003, 20:15 with medium haul planes, as the last poster said, Ireland, spain, france, Italy... Where ever really... and if they need a longer runway, well, if they knocked the eggbox, they can knock down Carcraft or whatever is in the way... It's like there are buildings around the airport, but none further East, so really, it ought to be easy if they REALLY want larger planes.
Greg
alchresearch 07-10-2003, 20:16 I get the feeling that they're either not trying or had an ulterior motive when it was built and it wasn't really going to be an airport for Joe public.
Captain_Scarlet 07-10-2003, 21:07 It's kinda cheap, they didn't put much of an effort in that project...
they were tlaking about it in the 60s, and look at it now :p
Greg
alchresearch 07-10-2003, 21:08 From what I've seen of others, owning an airport is almost a licence to print money.
Captain_Scarlet 07-10-2003, 21:24 For City Council it's a money mine, but they ain't doing anything... they're just lazy. there are customers, me for example, but i didn't particularly want to go to Amsterdam, Paris would be a good start...
Greg
alchresearch 07-10-2003, 21:26 It's such a waste. City breaks are all the rage if you can't get away. And if you only have Friday to Sunday, flying is essential to get there quickly.
How many of us chaps would take our wives to Paris from Sheffield if we could?
<silence>
OK, I'll rephrase that - How many would take our loved ones or bits-on-the-side for a weekend in Paris?
:D
Captain_Scarlet 07-10-2003, 21:40 I wouldn't mind just so that i don't have to go either by eurostar or by ferry...
It takes me from where i go to France to Sheffield 7 hours. By plane it'd be about 2.5...
Ok who wants to take their bird to Paris for the WE ?
C'mon :pp
Greg
Here! (http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=712827)
And Here! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/3331947.stm)
Fairydreams 22-12-2003, 10:02 The Catcliffe airport was great for flying to Ireland, etc when those flights existed.
It did, however, have some major problems... such as having to go via Meadowhall to get there, even when you were in the town centre and on Park Sq. So with silly transport access it is no wonder its popularity was limited.
Lack of popularity also means that it is harder to get slots. The Parisian airports are full so in order to have another airport link with those someone has to cancel a plane from elsewhere. They won't do that without the demand. Even the small planes which left Catcliffe to Dublin were mostly empty. I don't see that not being able to have bigger planes is a problem if you can't fill small ones.
The long and the short of this is that unless there is good transport infrastructure and good incentives to offer a wider service the chances of them springing up spontaneously is zero.
Today - Tuesday 13th April - is the day for the announcement of the new name for Finningley.
Any last minute bets on a name?
My money is on Sheffield International Airport - I just can't see any benefit in calling it Doncaster Airport - nobody knows where Doncaster is outside the UK.
According to sheffieldtoday.net, it's...
Robin Hood Airport - Doncaster Sheffield
Which is really pretty bizarre.
:roll:
Yea... I wonder if it's just the first stage to dropping the Robin Hood Doncaster from Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport ;)
rickmiles85 13-04-2004, 11:53 That is bloody queer.
Off the BBC Website BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/3622143.stm)
Captain_Scarlet 13-04-2004, 19:25 An airport in Finningley really majorly sucks and means that at the end of the day THERE WILL STILL BE NO AIRPORT IN SHEFFIELD !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did I hear correctly? On the Radio this morning, it announced that tickets will go on sale for flights to beach resorts and major cities from Sheffield airport..
The radio didn't know exactly what time (just said later this morning) or where flights will go to..
Just that they will be on sale at www.thomsonfly.com
Anyone shed any light on this?
GazB
cgksheff 06-12-2004, 08:18 Either you heard wrong or the radio goofed.
Thompsonfly are due to announce destinations from FriarTuck Doncaster Airport not Sheffield.
Should be able to make bookings now for flights starting in Spring next year.
Nothing on the website as yet (09:20)
The first flights from the Doncaster airport go on sale today, must have been that you heard.
It has been on the news that you can start booking tickets for Robin Hood Airport. Must be that, can't imagine anything like that at Sheffield Airport.... ever again.
They all sound about right.. Sorry I must have heard wrong :shakes:
Well you try driving, talking on the phone, doing a crossword AND listening to the radio :)
cgksheff 06-12-2004, 08:51 "Website due to be updated at 11:00 this morning"
So says Thompsonfly customer services.
Which radio station was it? If it was any of the Sheffield stations of course they will call the new Robin Hood airport Sheffield.
It is indeed on the thomsonfly website this morning. Flights from Doncaster/Sheffield (DSA) to Alicante, Dublin, Faro, Ibiza, Jersey, Malaga, Palma, Paris, Pisa, Prague and Valencia. The flights start from £15.99, flights to Paris are £19.99, most are from £24.99.
'To celebrate the launch of our new base at Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield, Thomsonfly.com will donate £1 for every booking made today 6th December to the Help a Hallam Child charity.'
I notice there is no sign of the name 'Robin Hood' anywhere when booking, which will make it less embarassing at the airports... 'where are you flying to?'... 'mummble mummble airport'.
nickswfc 07-12-2004, 09:58 i think there were some flights at sheffield city yesturday, i remember seeing loads of planes. the thing that got me was, a large plane taking off and flying over crystal peaks, it definately looked a large one too
Originally posted by nickswfc
i think there were some flights at sheffield city yesturday, i remember seeing loads of planes. the thing that got me was, a large plane taking off and flying over crystal peaks, it definately looked a large one too
Maybe it was lost. I've seen some very small planes landing there, not seen anything big there for a very long time... and even then not that big.
Originally posted by Snook
Maybe it was lost. I've seen some very small planes landing there, not seen anything big there for a very long time... and even then not that big.
It wasn't lost. A business jet (not a Citation, but something similar) came in yesterday, as did a Dauphin helicopter. A Citation also came in today. A Learjet and a Citation came in last week. It does happen, you know!
Checked the website. It is there as Doncaster Sheffield and flights start on 28th April next year.
Pete1024 07-12-2004, 19:45 Doncaster Sheffield eh? I insist they remove our city's name from this fake.
How come Doncaster gets an airport with international flights and we don't?
WTF?
Originally posted by Pete1024
Doncaster Sheffield eh? I insist they remove our city's name from this fake.
How come Doncaster gets an airport with international flights and we don't?
WTF?
Get real! It's a shared airport. Be glad a PRIVATE COMPANY has put Sheffield's name in it.
We have an airport and IT DIDN'T WORK FOR COMMERCIAL SCHEDULED FLIGHTS.
*headhurtingfrombeingbackedagainstbrickwall*
Originally posted by MrHelicopter
It wasn't lost. A business jet (not a Citation, but something similar) came in yesterday, as did a Dauphin helicopter. A Citation also came in today. A Learjet and a Citation came in last week. It does happen, you know!
Hehe, sorry MrHelicopter, just a joke... I suppose you're getting tired of them... I think it is a shame about the Airport, what exactly went wrong there, bad management?
I think the new airport will be great, and should get loads of business if it is run properly. I just hope they do some decent international flights to America and the like... I Know it is close to Doncaster, but I suppose they need the name Sheffield on there so that some people will know roughly where they are going!
Thanks for this thread.
I booked 4 seats to Jersey for £48 each from Doncaster/Sheffield airport on monday, a saving of £60/70 each, kept getting quotes of about £110 previously
Hazel
espadrille 08-12-2004, 07:10 If anyone wants to get quotes.check out my link
www.cashcardworldwide.com/5713202
I see the Sheffield Star is reporting on the front page concerns about the transport infrastructure for the new airport.
In terms of public transport, they will operate a coach shuttle from Doncaster station.
For the private motorist, the motorway link won't be built until the year 2010, and until then you will have to drive down various little country lanes to get there!
What does everyone think/know?
http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=913521
Originally posted by Andy C
I see the Sheffield Star is reporting on the front page concerns about the transport infrastructure for the new airport.
In terms of public transport, they will operate a coach shuttle from Doncaster station.
For the private motorist, the motorway link won't be built until the year 2010, and until then you will have to drive down various little country lanes to get there!
What does everyone think/know?
Quite simply, without the improved road links it's going to be a nightmare getting in and out of Finningley. I also notice that Thomsons have decided to call in Doncaster airport in their television adverts, at last a sensible name for the place is surfacing.
Ginger_Kitty 03-01-2005, 16:46 I used to live in the next village to Finningley and I can assure you that the roads are not built for the amount of traffic they are likely to get when the airport opens. I'm so glad I don't live there any more!!!!!!!
muddycoffee 03-01-2005, 16:56 I have been studying the star with great interest this afternoon with reference to this subject. It seems that they are recommending driving past the yorkshire outlet, for sheffielders.
Having visited music and guitar shops in doncaster on and off for a decade, I shudder, as the traffic at the yorkshire outlet is so bad when it is open. I personally would rather drive ten miles out of the way to avoid this particular bottleneck
Also I would have thought that the ideal answer would be to have a brand new junction from the M18, but no, they seem to be considering a new road which goes from the airport site to bawtry road [A638] only. This would leave sheffielders with the task of navigation past the hundreds of cars waiting to go into the yorkshire outlet.. Bonkers! :loopy:
alchresearch 03-01-2005, 18:27 The M18 is also two lanes in that area. That means that lorries can 'overtake'. This usually means that a lorry going 45.1MPH overtaking another driving at 45MPH.
Meanwhile, the motorway near Manchester Airport is being expanded to FOUR lanes per carriageway.
silverknight 03-01-2005, 18:36 I am guessing here that First may extend 2 or 3 of its services to the airport with funding from the PTE. My guess is X12 Barnsley to Doncaster will then go onto airport. Some X78 journeys extended to airport and maybe some 287 extended from Maltby/Bawtry area. It will be interesting to see what appears on the vosa web site regarding bus service changes in the next few weeks. Late January changes will no doubt be listed in the next week or so. April 2005 changes need to registered 56days before being implemented , so all eyes peeled during March.
royjames 03-01-2005, 18:45 I have been thinking of booking a flight from the new airport but having seen all this I dont think I will bother.
At least if you go from east midlands then you have a fairly straight forward motorway link to the airport,better this than being stuck in traffic at donny.
Originally posted by silverknight
Some X78 journeys extended to airport
well I personally wouldnt catch the X78 from Sheffield to the airport if it did that... you ever caught the X78 to Donnie? it takes FOREVER, going via Rotherham and Connisborough... theres only one good thing about Connisborough, its far away and my ex lives there (thank god) lol...
anyways, it'd be like 1hr 30 from sheffield to donnie airport probably... surely there would be better ways?
Originally posted by Andy C
I see the Sheffield Star is reporting on the front page concerns about the transport infrastructure for the new airport.
In terms of public transport, they will operate a coach shuttle from Doncaster station.
For the private motorist, the motorway link won't be built until the year 2010, and until then you will have to drive down various little country lanes to get there!
What does everyone think/know?
http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=913521 Well, it hasn't changed much since I lived in Doncaster then?
'Let's build a flagship style leisure complex and call it Doncaster Dome'.
'Roads? We need roads? Why?'
'Is there a world outside Doncaster?'
'Go away, we like being insular and isolated.'
Not all airports have easy motorway links (Cardiff, Bristol & Leeds / Bradford spring to mind).
Have caught flights from Cardiff (near where my parents live) on several occasions and this involves a good 7/8 miles of driving down country lanes similar to around Finningley - never caused any real hassle.
I remember visiting the air shows at Finningley when it was an RAF base (they ran up to 10 years ago) and this used to draw thousands of people arriving (and departing) at pretty much the same time without too much hassle.
So unless your flight co-incides with rush hour on the motorways I don't think it will be as bad as the Star makes out - they don't really expect it to turn into Heathrow or Manchester overnight do they? Having said that a motorway link would make life easier - although don't forget a lot of the obvious routes for motorways are also likely to cross old mine workings (Rossington, Armthorpe etc).
My recommended route would be to approach Finnigley from Bawtry end rather than Doncaster (I'm assuming most people from Nottingham / Derby will continue to use East Midlands).
Ginger_Kitty 04-01-2005, 10:01 Originally posted by Longcol
I remember visiting the air shows at Finningley when it was an RAF base (they ran up to 10 years ago) and this used to draw thousands of people arriving (and departing) at pretty much the same time without too much hassle.
really??? i clearly remember the traffic problems for MILES around Finningley on air show days, the only way to get out of our village (and the next three around it) on that day was to walk, the traffic was chaos!!!!
I never personally attended the air shows, but I believe for a good many of them they opened a temporary railway station on the nearby Doncaster-Lincoln line.
The current public transport proposal detailed in the Star is to get the train to Doncaster station, where a Wilfreda Beehive coach in Airport livery will shuttle to the airport (on the same congested roads presumably). At least this should be a high quality link though.
Coming off the M18 at Maltby and approaching the airport from Bawtry is one option from Sheffield. I work there and some of the small roads around the airport are being widened.
nuf_said 04-01-2005, 16:29 Originally posted by em3978
really??? i clearly remember the traffic problems for MILES around Finningley on air show days, the only way to get out of our village (and the next three around it) on that day was to walk, the traffic was chaos!!!!
You're right - every time I went to the airshow at Finningley it took about an hour to get back to the A1 whichever route was used. I learned to stay at the show until after 8pm (barbecue) and miss most of the delays.
Captain_Scarlet 04-01-2005, 16:43 I recon the best way to go to Doncaster Airport is to get a plane from Manchester and fly there :D
alchresearch 04-01-2005, 19:33 Originally posted by Longcol
[B]Not all airports have easy motorway links (Cardiff, Bristol & Leeds / Bradford spring to mind).
Have caught flights from Cardiff (near where my parents live) on several occasions and this involves a good 7/8 miles of driving down country lanes similar to around Finningley - never caused any real hassle.B]
And this is exactly why these airports never prospered to the levels that Manchester and East Midlands an Birmingham did.
What's the point in spending millions building a 21st century world-class international airport when you're using early 20th century country lanes for access?
muddycoffee 04-01-2005, 20:43 I agree alchresearch,
my experiences of flying from various airports, is often made into a nighmare, by the return journey home. When returning from abroad early morning and then emerging into rush hour traffic, or over the rollercoaster that is the snake pass while half asleep, these things have always made me so angry as to why we can't have a decent airport on our doorstep.
And now when at last something positive might happen[for the 2nd time lucky], we learn that we might be spending an hour, nose-to-tail in local traffic just to get back onto the motorway home.
It is totally neccesary for the viabiltiy of this new airport, that there is a big new junction on the M18 straight into the airport. The way you come out of east midlands airport, almost straight on to the M1 is fantastic. That is the only standard of road which will be good enough. As it is, on a good run, I can get back home from East Mid in little more than 40 mins when it's quiet. For the Robin Hood Doncaster finningly sheffield uncle tom cobley and all, new international airport to work, it has to be 20 minutes or less. :rant:
genesiscouch 17-01-2005, 19:14 Is there a current website for the new Robin Hood/Doncaster Sheffield Airport? I wanted to poke around it but my Google skillz are failing me...or there isn't one...
limpetboy 17-01-2005, 19:18 Here ya go...
Robin Hood Airport (http://www.robinhoodairport.com/)
DaBouncer 17-01-2005, 19:32 Nice template website that ;)
royjames 17-01-2005, 20:18 I can't wait till this airport gets going it will be of great benefit to the local community and will put the area firmly on the international map.
Just a shame that Sheffield airport failed ,still donny is not far to go is it?
So when do they start flying from there then?
Had a look at site but can't find anything.
royjames 17-01-2005, 21:27 I beleive the first flights begin in march so not too long to wait,but the main ones start in may.
v_meldrew 17-01-2005, 22:01 Originally posted by fuzzy
So when do they start flying from there then?
Had a look at site but can't find anything.
April.
http://www.robinhoodairport.com/page_flight_bookings_38.html
Have you noticed on the road map for finding them, the M1 is signed to Leeds? Sheffield isn't even mentioned!!
HarrietStar 18-01-2005, 14:07 http://www.thomsonfly.com/en/index.html
dublin here i come :)
cgksheff 18-01-2005, 14:16 Originally posted by rinty
Have you noticed on the road map for finding them, the M1 is signed to Leeds? Sheffield isn't even mentioned!!
They don't have to. You're already there.
Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield airport!
So going to Dublin is £0.99p each way ? Cheaper than going to the city centre.
I booked to go to Jersey in May, from Doncaster Airport.
£2:99 one way and £17:99 back, with airport charges £48 altogether.
Hazel
alchresearch 18-01-2005, 21:28 Originally posted by rinty
Have you noticed on the road map for finding them, the M1 is signed to Leeds? Sheffield isn't even mentioned!!
I like the road directions to the airport:
Travel through Hatfield Woodhouse, continue for approximately 2 miles into Blaxton Village.
At the Blaxton roundabout turn right and follow the road, passing Walkers Nursery/Garden Centre on the left. Take the next left on to Gatehouse Lane.
After crossing the railway line take the right turn at the roundabout and continue for approximately 200 yards.
The entrance to Robin Hood Airport is on the left hand side.
Hardly the route you'd expect to take to a international airport!
Don't know if anyone has seen but ryanair have just announced that they are going to be flying to dublin from the new doncaster/sheffield robin hood airport- i just check and i can fly on a friday in may and back on a sunday for under £30- thats brilliant!!!
what does everyone else think of this airport and do you agree with it being called doncaster/sheffield airport when we already have one?
£30....return to Dublin.... the fastest growing city in Europe.
The beer, the women, the accents.... great news, great news.
Its daft that you can go to dublin for cheaper than you can get to london!!!
Magneteer 26-01-2005, 13:24 Dublin's a great place to visit but, I fear they may have now priced themselves out of it. Everything is now mega expensive, and people I talk to are giving it a miss because of this.
Mod: RHDS Airport threads merged
genesiscouch 26-01-2005, 13:56 So really in the end what's the point? For people who want to drive there it will be a little closer than MAN but by public transport I would rather fly out of MAN as I can hop on the train in Sheffield and walk off right into the airport (using lifts, escalators and moving sidewalks for luggage even) in 1.15 max. To get to RHDS I have to take a train to Doncaster, unload my luggage, drag it to the bus stop, wait for a bus, have it loaded on again, sit in traffic for another 15-20 minutes and then wait for my bags to be unloaded and drag them in. I strongly doubt total travel time will be less than the much more relaxed and simple travel to MAN.
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:12 Hi Gang!
I don't want this thread to be about the name of "our" new airport (shared with Doncaster & the rest of South Yorkshire), but simply to restart the convo regarding the airport which is only days away from landing right on Sheffields door step.
The terminal building is nearing completion.... from what I hear, most of the scaffolding has been removed from the roof now, as you enter through the central revolving doors your confronted by all of the check in desks to your left as well as baggage stalls and airline info desks, to your right you cant help seeing an outstanding marble staircase and escalators. The departure lounge is upstairs facing the airfield apron.
Airport Off Site & External Works..
* Landscaping to the car park is 90% complete barring grass seeding works.
* Fencing works are nearly finished on the approach road.
* Hedge planting and tree planting on the airport approach road is well underway.
* Approach road works are nearing completion including the junction at Hayfield Lane which will be completed shortly.
* The Rescue & Fire Fighting Station and Air Traffic Control tower are both handed over and fully operational.
* All structural works to hard standing areas (airside) are now complete.
Roll on the first commercial flights on April 28th 2005!!!!!!!!!
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:15 You will soon be able to fly from SHEFFIELD (and Doncaster) to:
Scheduled Services...
Alicante
Dublin
Faro
Ibiza
Jersey
Malaga
Palma
Paris
Pisa
Prague
Valencia
Charter (Holiday) flights to....
Alicante (Costa Blanca)
Bourgas (Bulgaria)
Corfu
Dalaman (Turkey)
Faro (Algarve)
Gerona (Costa Brava)
Gran Canaria
Ibiza
Mahon (Minorca)
Malaga (Costa Del Sol)
Malta
Monastir (Tunisia)
Palma (Majorca)
Paphos (Cyprus)
Reus (Costa Dorada)
Rhodes
Tenerife
Verona
royjames 07-04-2005, 22:15 Fantastic news for all south yorkshire people,I really back this venture and hope its a great success. We have long needed a international airport to give the area a real lift and put us firmly on the international map.:thumbsup:
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:19 4 x Jet Airliners (operating for Thomson Fly) to be based at the Airport are:
G-THOG Boeing 737-300 Ex DADBM
G-THOH Boeing 737-300 Ex DADBN
G-THOI Boeing 737-300 Ex Easy Jet G-OFRA
G-CDZN Boeing 737-800 Ex SE-DZN
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:22 BREAKING NEWS:
From the Thomson Winter 2005 brochure,
Doncaster - Sharm El Sheikh
Starts Sunday 6th November 2005
Ends Sunday 30th April 2006.
Flights leave at 09:45 and will arrive back at 22:00
Its not even opened and it has a great destination others couldn't get and I think this will be the airports 1st long haul.
royjames 07-04-2005, 22:22 Hey I have already registerd with thompson to get e mails of the latest offers,and they are coming in thick and fast. :thumbsup:
redrobbo 07-04-2005, 22:24 You appear to have a lot of inside knowledge bigflesh. Do you work for the airport?
I think this aiport will be an asset to South Yorkshire and environs. Let's wish it every success.
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:27 Timetable for 2005 Charters
Destination Airline Departure Arrival Operates
Alicante Britannia Tue 15:20 Tue 22:10 3 May - 18 Oct
Bourgas BH Air Thu 19:00 Thu 18:00 19 May - 06 Oct
Corfu Britannia Fri 07:00 Fri 23:20 6 May - 21 Oct
Dalaman Pegasus Fri 10:30 Fri 09:30 6 May - 28 Oct
Faro Britannia Sun 18:05 Mon 01:05 1 May - 23 Oct
Gerona Britannia Sat 23:55 Sun 05:30 7 May - 22 Oct
Gran Canaria Britannia Mon 17:10 Tue 02:45 2 May - 31 Oct
Ibiza Britannia Sat 08:30 Sat 14:30 7 May - 29 Oct
Mahon Britannia Mon 07:45 Mon 13:50 2 May - 24 Oct
Malaga Britannia Sat 15:45 Sat 22:45 7 May - 22 Oct
Malta Britannia Tue 06:15 Tue 13:50 3 May - 18 Oct
Monastir Thomas Cook Sun 16:45 Sun 15:45 1 May - 30 Oct
Palma Britannia Sun 14:30 Sun 13:15 1 May - 23 Oct
Britannia Thu 08:40 Thu 21:50 5 May - 27 Oct
Paphos Britannia Wed 08:15 Wed 19:00 25 May - 27 Oct
Reus Britannia Tue 23:20 Wed 04:50 24 May - 04 Oct
Rhodes Britannia Wed 20:30 Thu 06:10 25 May - 28 Sep
Sharm El Sheikh Britannia Sun 09:45 Sun 22:00 6 Nov - 30 Apr
Tenerife Britannia Sun 07:15 Sun 17:00 1 May - 23 Oct
Verona Europe Post Sun 11:15 Sun 16:30 15 May - 22 May
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:28 Scheduled
Ryanair
Flight Destination Depart Arrive Days
FR 1969 Dublin 13:20 14:15 1 2 3 4 5 6
FR 1969 Dublin 13:30 14:25 7
FR 1968 Robin Hood 12:00 12:55 1 2 3 4 5 6
FR 1968 Robin Hood 12:10 13:05 7
stevie1957 07-04-2005, 22:30 Could you please put a link to a map of the “Donny” airport?
Thanks
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:32 Originally posted by redrobbo
You appear to have a lot of inside knowledge bigflesh. Do you work for the airport?
I would love to Redrob, but they can't match my current pay.
I have contacts!
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:34 Originally posted by stevie1957
Could you please put a link to a map of the “Donny” airport?
Thanks
my pleasure ...... here is the "donny/Sheffy Airport map"
http://www.robinhoodairport.com/page.php?p=64
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:38 here is an overhead snap of
"our (shared with Doncaster) airport"
during the early stages of redevelopment
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=590155&WxsIERv=-&WdsYXMg=-&QtODMg=Qbapnfgre%20%2F%20Furssvryq%20-%20Ebova%20Ubbq%20%28-%20Svaavatyrl%29%20%28QFN%20%2F%20RTPA%29&ERDLTkt=HX%20-%20Ratynaq&ktODMp=Znl%2031%2C%202004&BP=0&WNEb25u=Naql%20Znegva%20-%20NveGrnzVzntrf&xsIERvdWdsY=&MgTUQtODMgKE=Yngrfg%20ivrj%20bs%20gur%20HX%27f%20a rjrfg%20nvecbeg%20-%20Qbapnfgre%20Furssvryq%20Ebova%20Ubbq%20Vagreang vbany%20ba%20gur%20sbezre%20ENS%20Svaavatyrl.%20Va %20guvf%20ivrj%2C%20gur%20grezvany%20fgrryjbex%20u nf%20tebja%20fhofgnagvnyyl%20fvapr%20zl%20ynfg%20c vpgher%20gnxra%20ba%202aq%20Znl%2C%20naq%20gurl%20 frrz%20gb%20or%20pyrnevat%20tebhaq%20sbe%20gur%20p ne%20cnex.%20Ab%20fvta%20bs%20jbex%20ba%20n%20enzc %20lrg%20gubhtu%21&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=2873&NEb25uZWxs=2004-06-01%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&width=1024&height=695&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2C cynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencu re%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2C pbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22qbapnfgre%22%27%20 VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_ vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=737923&next_id=573492
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:39 here is an overhead snap of
"our (shared with Doncaster) airport"
during the latter stages of development!!!!!!!! the birth!!!!!!!
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=737923&WxsIERv=-&WdsYXMg=-&QtODMg=Qbapnfgre%20%2F%20Furssvryq%20-%20Ebova%20Ubbq%20%28-%20Svaavatyrl%29%20%28QFN%20%2F%20RTPA%29&ERDLTkt=HX%20-%20Ratynaq&ktODMp=Qrprzore%2019%2C%202004&BP=0&WNEb25u=Naql%20Znegva%20-%20NveGrnzVzntrf&xsIERvdWdsY=&MgTUQtODMgKE=Gur%20H.X%27f%20arjrfg%20nvecbeg%20vf %20abj%20ernyyl%20gnxvat%20funcr.%20Fvapr%20zl%20y nfg%20cubgbtencu%20gnxra%20va%20Znl%2C%20gur%20gre zvany%20unf%20ynetryl%20orra%20pbzcyrgrq%2C%20gur% 20znva%20nceba%20%28enzc%29%20unf%20orra%20svavfur q%2C%20gur%20pne%20cnexf%20ner%20qbja%20naq%20cneg yl%20znexrq%2C%20naq%20gur%20ehajnl%20unf%20tbg%20 vgf%20znexvatf%20onpx%20ntnva.%20Fgvyy%20fbzr%20jb ex%20gb%20qb%2C%20ohg%20bcravat%20qnl%20vf%20abj%2 0bayl%20nobhg%20sbhe%20zbaguf%20njnl%21&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=4343&NEb25uZWxs=2004-12-20%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&width=1024&height=695&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2C cynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencu re%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2C pbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22qbapnfgre%22%27%20 VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_ vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=4&prev_id=752277&next_id=590155
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:42 The airport is now fully staffed, the terminal building is in full operation and the rescue and fire fighting station and air traffic control tower are both fully manned.
The baggage handling equipment is undergoing its final checks and decoration inside the terminal building is nearly finished, with carpets due to be fitted over the course of the next week.
Roadworks, including the new junction at Hayfield Lane and fencing work on the main airport approach road are due to be completed shortly.
royjames 07-04-2005, 22:45 Tell you what I wouldnt mind working at the airport,I enjoy working with the public and travel is one of my loves.
I fancy a change and might give them a ring.:thumbsup:
bigflesh 07-04-2005, 22:49 For jobs:
www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk go to search , type finningley in destination and in location on the next page.... happy hunting.....
any other links to job sites for finningley would be welcome.
royjames 07-04-2005, 22:50 lol cheers bigflesh you are on the ball tonight.:thumbsup:
LoopyLou 08-04-2005, 08:15 I have already booked to fly from donny to Dublin in June to see U2.
can't wait !!!!
I fly to Jersey on the 7th of May from Doncaster so I hope all the work has finished.
Got cheap tickets to !
hazel
mrchinnery 08-04-2005, 16:47 Where is the entrance?
What are the roads like from Sheffield?
Littlemesters 08-04-2005, 18:05 Does anyone know of any plans for bus/coach/train companies to run a shuttle from Sheffield. Any TAXI companies offering specials from Sheff.
alchresearch 08-04-2005, 19:15 It's really nice to see people getting excited over the airport and their glee at the cheap flights! I'm lucky enough to be close to Liverpool and Manchester with a whole whole of low-cost airlines that you seem to take for granted.
It's a shame that the airport is not on Sheffield's doorstep, but once the M18 link roads are made it will be a doddle to get there.
bigflesh 08-04-2005, 19:57 Originally posted by alchresearch
It's really nice to see people getting excited over the airport
I agree alchresearch. Its refreshing to see people being so positive for once! I hate it when people diss the name and location, but hey..... its Sheffield's first "proper" stab at international airportdom courtesy of our friends in Doncaster letting us "share their territory"
Its also good to see "our" shared with Doncaster airport as a focal point for South Yorkshire.
redrobbo 08-04-2005, 19:59 Originally posted by alchresearch
It's a shame that the airport is not on Sheffield's doorstep, but once the M18 link roads are made it will be a doddle to get there.
I believe that Finningley is closer to Sheffield city centre than Manchester airport is to Manchester city centre? Anyone know if this is correct?
bigflesh 08-04-2005, 20:00 Originally posted by Littlemesters
Does anyone know of any plans for bus/coach/train companies to run a shuttle from Sheffield. Any TAXI companies offering specials from Sheff.
Littlemester...... its happening certainly from Donny...... expect announcements from Sheffield Operators VERY shortly......
Airport Shuttle Bus Announced
News of a speedy transport link between Doncaster and the airport has been announced.
The Airport Arrow - a shuttle bus between Doncaster centre and Robin Hood Airport - will be launched on April 18, in advance of the first commercial flights on April 28.
Services should run every 20 to 30 minutes from the South Bus Station.
The news comes as transport chiefs continue to look at a long-term strategy for a much-anticipated train link connecting the town to Finningley.
It comes after rail operator GNER announced it had secured a £1 billion ten-year deal to continue its services on the East Coast mainline.
David Ryall, managing director of Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport, said: "The airport is delighted that the franchise for the east coast mainline has now been determined and we can now look forward to re-opening discussions with GNER to explore where our two activities can come together for the best service of passengers."
NEW AIRPORT SERVICES FROM DONCASTER:
* From Doncaster South Bus Station. Service 91 (run by First South Yorkshire) will run every 20 to 30 minutes, Monday to Saturday. The service starts between April 23 and 25.
* From Doncaster West Street. Service 707 (Wilfreda Beehive) will run in conjunction with Peel Holdings plc from West Street, Monday to Saturday, between 5.35am and 10.35pm, and between 8.35am and 5.35pm on Sunday. The service starts between April 23 and 25.
* In addition, three services will run from the South Bus Station to Hayfield Lane, Finningley - a short walk from the airport. Service 191 (Mass) will run a daytime service every 15 to 30 minutes, Service 191 (Yorkshire Traction) will run an evening service every hour and Service 191 (First) will run a Sunday service every hour.
bigflesh 08-04-2005, 20:07 Originally posted by mrchinnery
What are the roads like from Sheffield?
Best route by far for Sheffield people is:
M1 to M18 (we all know the way here), come off the M18 at junction 3 into lakeside complex, out on Bawtry road, left on the B1396 towards Haxey, airport just through Auckley.
Of course, until the proper bo access road is built, we will have to make do as its still in planning.
cgksheff 08-04-2005, 20:32 Originally posted by redrobbo
I believe that Finningley is closer to Sheffield city centre than Manchester airport is to Manchester city centre? Anyone know if this is correct?
'fraid not.
Using MS Autoroute:
Sheffield Midland Station to Finningly: 33.7 miles
Manchester Picadilly Station to Manchester Airport: 10.6 miles
bigflesh 08-04-2005, 20:41 Originally posted by cgksheff
'fraid not.
Using MS Autoroute:
Sheffield Midland Station to Finningly: 33.7 miles
Manchester Picadilly Station to Manchester Airport: 10.6 miles
at least its all motorway (in the majority) for us lot to Donny Sheffy Airport.........so I bet it takes the same amount of time, if not just a tad more (say about 5 mins more?).
At least its a straight run, have you ever been on a bus down Kingsway (A34), Manchester, at Rush Hour? Not very nice.
cgksheff 08-04-2005, 20:47 What would you say is a sensible driving time to plan for?(Midland Station to Finningly) including safety margin.
1 hour?
flying from doncaster 21st may to ibiza just wondering will it have shops bars etc like manchester or will it just be basic
1Man&hisBMW 08-04-2005, 20:59 i dont think it will work out much different time-wise between going to donny or manchester, from sheffield cc
bigflesh 08-04-2005, 21:07 Originally posted by panda79
flying from doncaster 21st may to ibiza just wondering will it have shops bars etc like manchester or will it just be basic
Panda... there's a SPAR!!! lol!!!!! (beats "Tie Rack" anyday lol)
Originally posted by bigflesh
Panda... there's a SPAR!!! lol!!!!! (beats "Tie Rack" anyday lol)
i hope theres a happy shopper i know they have bargains:heyhey: :heyhey: :heyhey:
I am flying from Doncaster on the 17 June to Turkey, cant wait its so good having an airport only 45mins away. :clap:
trentboy2 09-04-2005, 09:26 Yipee my mum live in Malaga and now it'll be so much easier for me to get there!!
To get there by public transport it looks like a case of getting to Doncaster and changing. Either train to Doncaster and connect into the shuttle coach, or X78 bus to Doncaster then the 91 bus (which is good value on a Firstday ticket but will probably take ages!)
I've also noticed on the SYPTE website that the X19 Barnsley to Doncaster bus is to be extended to the airport.
I've fed a journey enquiry for Sheffield to Robin Hood Airport into transportdirect.info and the fastest journey by public transport returned was 1 hour 5 minutes:
dep Sheffield station 10:54, arr Doncaster station 11:15 (Virgin Train)
walk from Doncaster station to Doncaster West Street
dep Doncaster West Street 11:35, arr Hayfield Lane, Finningley Airfield 11:59 (Wilfreda Beehive 707 bus)
thought there was a train station at finningley village?
34 miles from sheffield city centre seems quite a distance, i'm sure its much shorter (distance-wise but not necessarily time-wise) if you head for bawtry off the parkway. airport is about a couple of miles north of bawtry
cgksheff 11-04-2005, 08:48 Autoroute gave 33.7 miles for the quickest route.
For the shortest route it gives 24.5 miles.
Does anyone know what freequency's the airport have been allocated for things like Ground, ATIS, Approach, Tower etc?
367squadron 11-04-2005, 09:00 Will there be a flight path over Sheffield?
cgksheff 11-04-2005, 09:14 Originally posted by Avalon
Does anyone know what freequency's the airport have been allocated for things like Ground, ATIS, Approach, Tower etc?
ATIS 134.9500
APPROACH 126.2250
RADAR 129.0500
TOWER 128.7750
Originally posted by cgksheff
ATIS 134.9500
APPROACH 126.2250
RADAR 129.0500
TOWER 128.7750
Nice one....i'll have to pay a visit when its fully operational! :clap:
This can only be a positive for S'yorkshire,and i'm welcoming it with open arms!!
Me and my bro are flying to Paris for the tour on 21st July just think an internation airport just 30mins away by car....FANTASTIC!!!
John t
bigflesh 11-04-2005, 18:59 Originally posted by 367squadron
Will there be a flight path over Sheffield?
Probably not Squadron.
Looks like traffic will route...
For eastern destinations to the Hull area and out over the N.Sea for SE Europe (Germany, Greece, Bulgaria)
For Southerly destinations there will be a North Westerley heading departure towards Leeds/Wakefield before a left turn southbound over the Peak District and beyond (France, Italy, Malta, Spain)
For Western destinations, again North Westerley heading towards Leeds, before a left turn to Manchester and out over Wales (southbound) over Cardiff, Torquay anf beyond. (Malaga, Portugal, Canaries, Morrocco).
Hope this helps!
Big
Rob_Coupe 11-04-2005, 19:26 that couldn't be better, that means that we get a big airport and none of the noise that comes with it.
Greybeard 11-04-2005, 21:24 Originally posted by bigflesh
For Southerly destinations there will be a North Westerley heading departure towards Leeds/Wakefield before a left turn southbound over the Peak District and beyond (France, Italy, Malta, Spain)
For Western destinations, again North Westerley heading towards Leeds, before a left turn to Manchester and out over Wales (southbound) over Cardiff, Torquay anf beyond. (Malaga, Portugal, Canaries, Morrocco).
Will they be over-flying or under-flying all the eastbound stuff out of Manchester ? It's pretty busy already out here.
bigflesh 11-04-2005, 21:32 Grey, I can imagine Manchester eastbounds are busy - especially over Bradfield. I often see the Emrites or PIA going eastbound ex Manchester from my location.
Ex Doncaster Sheffield traffic will not conflict with Manchester Eastbound departure traffic (outbound it will be further North for starters!) and I am pleased to say, once clear of Doncaster Sheffield's runway, outbound traffic will be handed over to Manchester Air Traffic Control in the initial stages of climb, until London ATC picks up the tab for management of the traffic from about 23,000feet upwards (by then the traffic will be high and out of the area anyway).
I hope im wrong but i think its too close to Manchester airport for it to ever be a major success. All i ever see Doncaster as been is a local regional airport, with your once a week charter flights to the Med and low cost no frills flights. I dont expect to ever see long haul sheduled flights leaving Doncaster. We may get the odd long haul charter flight to say Orlando, but then again i thinks its neally 65% ( dont quote me i could be wrong im sure i read that figure somewhere ) of South Yorkshires long haul travellers already fly out of Manchester, so why would an airline move away from MAN to use DSA.
Sheffair 11-04-2005, 22:00 Originally posted by bigflesh
For Southerly destinations there will be a North Westerley heading departure towards Leeds/Wakefield before a left turn southbound over the Peak District and beyond (France, Italy, Malta, Spain)
For Western destinations, again North Westerley heading towards Leeds, before a left turn to Manchester and out over Wales (southbound) over Cardiff, Torquay anf beyond. (Malaga, Portugal, Canaries, Morrocco).
Where do you get this info'...... after departure i thought aircraft would be changing to Donc'/Finningley radar frequency....currently only the tower is operational + ATIS.
tom_a_west 11-04-2005, 22:56 Rob. I think that it could be a sucess because for everyone in this area and over towards Hull, there is no major airport that is easy and quick to get to. For example, even though Manchester is bigger and has more long haul destinations, as well as it being less than 60 miles away, there is no quick way of getting there and this is a serious problem for businesses within this area.
However I can see where you are coming from and that the airport will develop into what teeside is in the North East, however there is a lot of space for improvements in the future.
skyfitsboy 12-04-2005, 09:59 What kind of size is the new airport, is it comparable to Leeds Bradford?
Does anyone have any pics of the new terminal at Robin Hood, seen a few small pics of it and it looks really cool.
The reason i dont think it will ever be no more than a local regional airport, like i said before its too close to Manchester and its catchment area. I would guess most airlines are happy to have people travel for 1-2 hrs over to Manchester than spend money in opening a new base at Doncaster. There would need to be a huge surge in demand for flights for it to be another Manchester, and i dont see the demand been there for another major international airport up here. I would love to see in 10 years time Doncaster doing 100's of daily flights worldwide as that would be great for the South Yorkshire economy, i hope im wrong but i think thats ever going to happen. Once a week charter flights to sunny Spain Turkey Greece ect and the odd low cost carrier thats all Doncaster will ever be used for. It will just be another Leeds Bradford or Humberside. Yes its great we have a new airport but lets not all get too excited about it for the vast majority of us Manchester will still be our main airport for years to come.
I do see Doncaster in having a future with air cargo flights plenty of space and a 9000ft runway to accept 747 & A380 cargo flights.
alchresearch 12-04-2005, 21:13 Originally posted by robS35
I do see Doncaster in having a future with air cargo flights plenty of space and a huge runway to accept 747 & A380 cargo flights.
Plus good rail links and ports close by to support that.
You do raise some very good points. Humberside hasn't become the Manchester Airport of the East. Is it because the road links are poor or the lack of carriers wiling to commit to the airport, so the fact it's too remote?
Finningley has a poor road connection at present, but a couple of good airlines. The only worry is that by the time the road link is built to accomodate the millions of flyers, will the airlines have pulled out, just like KLM did with Sheffield?
Meanwhile, Manchester is widening the M60 ring road near to the airport to at least four lanes each way and is due for completion very shortly - they've really pulled out the stops to complete it as soon as possible.
Does anyone know whether Sheffield is closer to Finningley in relation to Nottingham and East Midlands?
cgksheff 12-04-2005, 21:56 Does anyone know whether Sheffield is closer to Finningley in relation to Nottingham and East Midlands?
Finningly: 25 miles
Nottingham Airport: 40 miles
East Midlands Airport: 45 miles
Sheffield is closer to Finningly than Nottingham / East Midlands
Another point Manchester's passenger number are around 19 million per year and flys to 170 destinations, compared to Doncaster which has a current max capacity of 2.3 million passengers per year. Which i think it will get nowhere near that even if it starts to steal passengers away from Humberside. Humberside at 500,000 and Leeds Bradford at just over 2 million passengers, by 2030 Humberside expects to be up to 1.6 million, but i think Doncaster will be there main rival. Leeds Bradford is forcast to grow to around 7 million passengers. Now compare that to Manchester which is the only UK airport apart from Heathrow to have 2 full length runways already has existing planning to expand to take 30 million passengers per year, with further approvals to expand up to 45 million passengers.
Thats another reason why i see Doncaster as just another northern regional airport.
tom_a_west 13-04-2005, 01:02 Originally posted by robS35
i see Doncaster as just another northern regional airport.
I fully see where you are coming from and I do think that there arent nearly that amount of people that want to fly to the same destinations that are offered at the moment. However, I cant see the airport being a good thing for Humberside as I think that it will cripple it. However, I can see it being bigger than LB as long as there are some more airlines that will fly from there.
I will never expect it to be compared to the likes of Manchester and Heathrow, although I do think that it is the kind of airport that can grow into one of the bigger airports in the country but only time will tell if this will be true. However I think that after the novelty of having an airport like this has died away i think that the number of passengers will decline.
One other reason that I agree with you that it will never become a hub is because sheffield is not a city that is filled with really important businessmen/women as it is not big enough and everyone knows that the most common air traveller is the businessman / businesswoman. If this were the case, then there would be flights to cities like New York already sheduled, that is not to say that there wont be.
Still, having a regional airport is definatly better than having to travel 45mins+ to get to east mids on what is oficially britains worst stretch of road, and it will bring a much larger international awareness of the area, and that is good for tourism. Now if we could just get rid of the chavs, we'd all be happy and have a much better looking ciity
Im not knocking the new airport, i think it is a good thing for South Yorkshire to have a ' real airport ' after the joke that was Sheffield. The topic of this airport came up at work the other day all everyone was saying how they will all suddenly be able to fly from Doncaster. My whole point was that people need to be realistic about this new airport, like i said before the vast majority of us will still be useing Manchester for years to come and always will.
Its one thing having a nice new shiny airport it's another trying to get airlines to base aircraft at it.
I dont see both Humberside and Doncaster surviving as i cant see that there would be enough passengers in the catchment areas of North Lincolnshire and East Riding to keep both running, and personally i see Doncaster as having a much better chance of survival.
Sheffair 13-04-2005, 10:28 Did some aerial filming of low approach and go around yesterday at Finningley. It looks fantastic, and very helpful ATC.
There should be NO flight path over Sheffield, but Worksop may see quite a bit of aerial traffic. (There'll be an increase already as many aircraft are using Donc'/Finningley for instrument approaches).
tom_a_west 14-04-2005, 22:56 those are lucky guys in worksop. LOL, they now get the chance for a little taste of the noise in a city. lol
bigflesh 17-04-2005, 19:15 Not long now, 11 days to go!!!
bigflesh 17-04-2005, 19:19 Hi gang,
I am sure it will not be long before Sheffield's transport link to "our new shared airport with Doncaster" will be launched.....in the meantime, for those of us without wheels will settle for train/bus (707)...
'Airport Arrow' - the dedicated shuttle bus link between Doncaster Rail Station and Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield, has been launched today in anticipation of commencement of operations on Monday April 18th.
Funded by Robin Hood Airport, the ‘Airport Arrow’ (service number 707) is operated by Wilfreda Beehive on the airport’s behalf and runs hourly, seven days a week.
With a journey time of approximately 25 minutes, the service runs from Doncaster West Street, adjacent to Doncaster Rail Station from 5.35am to 22.35pm Monday to Saturday and 8.35am to 17.53pm on Sunday¹, making stops at The Dome and Parrots Corner (adjacent to the Hare & Tortoise pub) en route to the airport.
Fares start from £3.50 for a single adult ticket and £2.00 for a single child².
Full details of timetables and fares can be found in the ‘Airport Arrow’ guide available in five languages from the airport, Doncaster Rail Station and other local information points.
The service uses a brand new state-of-the-art ‘Tempo’ vehicle, built in Leeds by transport export Optare to the airport’s high specification, with 32 seats, additional standing area and full disabled access. Special features include air conditioning, round the clock onboard CCTV monitoring and an integral multi media system allowing onboard TV screens to link up to flight arrival and departure updates and airport news.
To aid with easy recognition, the Airport Arrow has been wrapped in the airport’s distinctive white and green logo, a specialist process carried out by Rotherham-based P&N Corporate Media Ltd. It has its own dedicated bus stop at Doncaster Railway Station, which is clearly signposted from the station concourse.
The ‘Airport Arrow’ service is complemented by Service 91 (operated by First South Yorkshire) which will run from Doncaster South Bus Station every 20-30 minutes Monday to Saturday and starts on 25 April 2005, stopping at Cantley, Branton and Auckley en route to the terminal building.
Three additional services will run from the South Bus Station to Hayfield Lane, Finningley - a short walk from the airport. Service 191 (Mass) will run a daytime service every 15 to 30 minutes, Service 191 (Yorkshire Traction) will run an hourly evening service and Service 191 (First) will operate an hourly service on Sundays.
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Also unveiled today was one of the airport’s 30 strong fleet of ‘Little Arrow’ branded cabs, which will operate from a dedicated rank outside the terminal building. Pre-bookable via the airport, the cabs are being operated by North Nottinghamshire firm, Sky Cabs and boast uniformed drivers trained to be able to offer ‘the knowledge’ on local tourist information, hotels and restaurants for inbound passengers.
As he unveiled the ‘Airport Arrow’ and ‘Little Arrow’ cabs, David Ryall, Managing Director, Robin Hood Airport said:
“With just two weeks to go until the first flight leaves the airport, it’s with great excitement that we are now able to reveal all of the final details, like the impressive ‘Airport Arrow’ bus and ‘Little Arrow’ taxi service which provide reliable and extremely high quality links to and from the airport.”
Peter Nears, Strategic Planning Director for Peel Holdings who has been involved with the airport development from the very beginning added:
“The ‘Airport Arrow’ is an important part of the delivery of public transport accessibility to the Airport. The service has been purpose designed to co-ordinate with the planned Bawtry Quality Bus Corridor. The Corridor was part of the consideration of the public transport linkages at the Public Inquiry and we very much look forward to seeing it extended to the Airport”.
bigflesh 18-04-2005, 18:19 Some excellent news for Summer 2006.... especially long haul....
Thomson’s Summer 2006 brochures launch on Thursday, 28th April, with new regional flights for both short haul and long haul departures.
Thomsonfly (previously Britannia Airways) will now be offering a range of new destinations from key regional airports.
The new airport for 2005, Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield has also added Bulgaria, Croatia, Cancun, Turkey, Dominican Republic, Florida and Zakynthos to its departures in 2006.
bigflesh 18-04-2005, 20:47 Schedule for flights on Opening Day - 28th April 2005 (Spanish, Portugese and Irish Day)
09:15 Departure to Palma, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
10:35 Departure to Faro, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
12:55 Arrival from Dublin, Ryanair Boeing 737
13:20 Departure to Dublin, Ryanair Boeing 737
15:05 Arrival from Palma, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
15:35 Departure to Alicante, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
17:25 Arrival from Faro, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
18:00 Departure to Malaga, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
21:55 Arrival from Alicante, Thomsonfly Boeing 737
Gracias I will repost nearer the time, also!
I just hope that the Airport stays popular. As with anything else Peel Holdings (http://www.peelholdings.co.uk) get their grubby hands on, as soon as its shows signs of making a loss it will get binned quicker than a takeaway bag.
1Man&hisBMW 19-04-2005, 21:34 Originally posted by Hadron
I just hope that the Airport stays popular as with anything else Peel Holdings get their grubby hands on, as soon as its shows signs of making a loss it will get binned quicker than a takeaway bag.
dunno mate, but dont peel holdings own the trafford centre aswell??
Glad to see they are lauching long haul flights next year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/4471209.stm
alchresearch 22-04-2005, 12:08 Originally posted by 1Man&hisBMW
dunno mate, but dont peel holdings own the trafford centre aswell??
Yep, as well as acres of land in Manchester, Salford, Liverpool docks and the Manchester Ship Canal.
Peel are despised over here, particular near me where they are planning to build a racecourse and turn a piece of private woodland - which is a very safe nature reserve - into a public park.
The fact that Haydock is only ten minutes down the road and a second racecourse just isn't needed means nothing to them.
skyfitsboy 22-04-2005, 15:53 The new long haul flights to Florida and Mexico kick the **** out of Leeds Bradford airport! :clap:
espadrille 23-04-2005, 04:53 Relax Travel
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Tel 0114 2490124
(I will post new telephone number when we move)
I can get anyone quotes for holidays out of this or any airport
LoopyLou 23-04-2005, 07:15 Read an article on sheffieldtoday.co.uk that said it was really difficult to find by car...... that there are a lack of road signs and most people get lost....
Has anyone driven to the airport yet themselves who can comment on this?
I'm not going until June, so hopefully the signs wil be up by then......hopefully!
cgksheff 23-04-2005, 07:37 Originally posted by LoopyLou
Read an article on sheffieldtoday.co.uk that said it was really difficult to find by car...... that there are a lack of road signs and most people get lost....
Article here (http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1007207) .
I am quite happy about this airport thing...cos it will save so much time. I'm originally for Paris you see and before I had to go either to Liverpool or London to take a flight back home. Now no more trains and less stress!!!
Good for Yorkshire as well, hopefully people will go more abroad and that could be only an advantage for them!!!
I think the article was taking the **** a bit - if the guy had known how to read a map he would have been able to find the airport easily enough.
Unless anybody is going there at buys periods - morning or evening rush hour in Doncaster lasts for all of half an hour - I would have thought they'd do it in 40 mins max from Sheffield centre.
Typical, I do three main flights - to Brussels, Amsterdam and to Luxembourg, and the airport doesn't serve any of them, so I shall still be going to Manchester. I was really hoping I might get some of those nice cheap flights or at least an easier journey!
Originally posted by LoopyLou
Read an article on sheffieldtoday.co.uk that said it was really difficult to find by car...... that there are a lack of road signs and most people get lost....
There have been quite a few people turn up to Sheffield City Airport asking where they catch their flight to Spain! Expect more once Doncaster opens on Thursday!
bigflesh 27-04-2005, 20:43 Not long to go now gang! Less than 24 hours for the 1st Commercial flight!!!
Whats the quickest way to Doncaster Sheffield Airport? Not signposted!!
Originally posted by smooth
Whats the quickest way to Doncaster Sheffield Airport? Not signposted!!
A starting point might give us a clue on how to help you find it ;)
Originally posted by smooth
Whats the quickest way to Doncaster Sheffield Airport? Not signposted!!
Here's the finishing point.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Doncaster+Airport&spn=0.083374,0.113429&hl=en
Just click the To Here link.
From Sheffield, it seems you have to go through Doncaster. Which could be a bit gruesome.
Following web pages have useful 'how to get there' information:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/i_love_sy/finningley/index.shtml
http://www.robinhoodairport.com/section.php?s=23&PHPSESSID=be2372749199b87f3d7c99b4054aab0e
alchresearch 28-04-2005, 11:06 It's made the BBC radio news this morning.
There's also a discussion on Jeremy Vine (R2 12 noon) today about it.
I won't be using the DCA and not because I'm fed up with chauvinistic Donnians going on about how it's their airport, end of Sheffield's regional status etc etc. Let's face it this airport's success will depend on whether the residents of the Sheffield conurbation choose to use it or not.
And if it's difficult to get to by public transport then I see no advantage in it. Manchester has rail links and I can be there in an hour or so without having to pay parking fees. East Mids comes second with its coach links and then Leeds/Bradford.
Besides which I've never understood all the fuss about having an airport right next to you. So good luck to you Donny but be nice to us Sheffielders cos we have PLENTY of alternatives.
It's Doncastrians by the way (or even Danensians if you're a pedant). Isn't it DSA too?
Anyway, instead of moaning about it we need to start the campaign to get a proper rail link to Sheffield. The success of Manchester has proved how important that is. Fast trains to Donny currently take 20 mins and there is already a railway line next to the airport (the line to Lincoln I think?) but no station. Although it's been mentioned here and there as a vague possibility, there are no definite plans for a rail link. But imagine an airport express train service from a dedicated platform at Sheff swishing through to Donny airport in 25-30 mins 24 hrs a day. How good would that be? Let's not pretend that the train ride to Mcr airport is a bed of roses either.
Come on South Yorks Region (Sheffield City-Region if you prefer), let's get behind our airport and make it work. It's a fantastic amenity and it will succeed. While we're at it, renationalise the railways and reregulate the buses.
alchresearch 28-04-2005, 16:43 I'm quite angry to see that it didn't get a mention on the BBC Six O'Clock News. I'm just watching the ITV news now as it hasn't had a mention in the headlines.
Yet they can waste a good five minutes reporting on Michael Jackson and how Rover cars are lying waste on a disused airfield. The rest of the news was political.
I assume it had top billing on regional news?
Please make your complaint known to the BBC at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint.shtml
alchresearch 28-04-2005, 16:53 It got 18 seconds on the ITV news - despite it being the only airport in the UK other than Heathrow that can handle the new Airbus A380.
being a daytime telly bum i am!!! it was on this afternoons itv news and had quite a bit of time,, only problem was sheffield was not mentioned at all and it was referred to as doncaster airport
bigflesh 28-04-2005, 18:55 touchdown....
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=462403
Big
Captain_Scarlet 29-04-2005, 10:18 Originally posted by savbaby
being a daytime telly bum i am!!! it was on this afternoons itv news and had quite a bit of time,, only problem was sheffield was not mentioned at all and it was referred to as doncaster airport Well the airport is in Doncaster, near Doncaster and is called Doncaster, what do you expect ?
when I mention the airport I call it DONCASTER, not sheffield Airport.
The thing that should be looked at is why the company (Peel Holdings) didn't try to do anything with OUR airport and how could donny council give them permission for the new one when they've seen the state of the old one.
Greybeard 29-04-2005, 10:49 Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
Well the airport is in Doncaster, near Doncaster and is called Doncaster, what do you expect ?
when I mention the airport I call it DONCASTER, not sheffield Airport.
I thought it was supposed to be called 'Robin Hood Airport' ?
Why they didn't call it something sensible like South Yorks Regional Airport beats me, - most people seem to have a little snigger about Robin Hood :P
I doubt that until it has decent rail and motorway links it will be anything but a convenient (for some) airstrip for charter flights. Meanwhile the govt. are proposing to spend heaven knows how many millions on extending Standstead !!?
Captain_Scarlet 29-04-2005, 11:36 Originally posted by Greybeard
I thought it was supposed to be called 'Robin Hood Airport' ?
Why they didn't call it something sensible like South Yorks Regional Airport beats me, - most people seem to have a little snigger about Robin Hood :P
I doubt that until it has decent rail and motorway links it will be anything but a convenient (for some) airstrip for charter flights. Meanwhile the govt. are proposing to spend heaven knows how many millions on extending Stanstead !!?
Yeah... Sheffield - Doncaster - Robin Hood - Deff Leppard - Michael Palin - Joe Cocker - Henderson's Relish - Internaitonal Arena Airport ?
Or is that beeing pedantic and taking the michael ?
Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
Yeah... Sheffield - Doncaster - Robin Hood - Deff Leppard - Michael Palin - Joe Cocker - Henderson's Relish - Internaitonal Arena Airport ?
Or is that beeing pedantic and taking the michael ?
only slightly:P
liverpool got it right calling theirs john lennon it could have been worse i guess they could have called it barry grant or jimmy tarbuck or even ken dodd:loopy:
arsenallad 29-04-2005, 19:44 Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
Well the airport is in Doncaster, near Doncaster and is called Doncaster, what do you expect ?
when I mention the airport I call it DONCASTER, not sheffield Airport.
I flew back from Dublin today where the signs confusing describe the new airport as just "DSA" and their announcers called it "DSA" or "Doncaster"
No mention of either Robin Hood or Sheffield.
The onboard announcements by Ryanair only referred to Doncaster.
Incidentally when I flew back, the new airport bus link to Doncaster station was ridiculously expensive - £3.50
And the taxi guys quoted £35 to Sheffield.
Originally posted by Captain_Scarlet
Well the airport is in Doncaster, near Doncaster and is called Doncaster, what do you expect ?
when I mention the airport I call it DONCASTER, not sheffield Airport.
well i do not really know much about where this airport is and if you read to thread name it is "Doncaster Sheffield Airport Opens on 28th April." and as most people are referring to it as Doncaster and sheffield airport i assumed it was to do with both! and as for the airport being called Doncaster airport its actually called Robin Hood airport
muddycoffee 30-04-2005, 12:41 This thread is intended to not have anything about the name of the airport as that was done to death in a previous thread.
Originally posted by bigflesh
I don't want this thread to be about the name of "our" new airport (shared with Doncaster & the rest of South Yorkshire), but simply to restart the convo regarding the airport
muddycoffee 30-04-2005, 12:53 Today I found myself near the new airport so I went to have a look around and take some pictures. And I am particularly interested in how far away it is from home and how long it takes to get there.
DSA - Woodseats 32 miles
Journey time 1 hour.
Interesting to note that it took half an hour (half the journey duration) from the airport to the junction M18 J3. Because you get sent around doncaster race course as there is no direct route. It is especially annoying to get through the doncaster traffic for 20 minutes only to find yourself over the bridge above the M18 just around the corner from the airport.
But still, as I suspected it is by far the most convenient airport for sheffield.
The car parking is massive and there were many more spectators than people actually flying. The place still smells of paint, and the main shop with newspapers etc, isn't yet open.
But it looks great and I can't wait to fly from there later this year.
For anyone who's intrested here are my pictures (http://www.borracho.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/airport/)
Muddycoffee.
Thanks for the pictures and the tip about the newsagents. I fly from there on Saturday and perhaps would have relied on the shop for my reading material. I'll take it with me now.
hazel
muddycoffee 01-05-2005, 07:27 Hazel, glad to be of service.
I would have thought that there will be some more shops on the otherside of passport control, hopefully you may be able to update us when you get back. As to how many are open etc..
Have a great holiday
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To anyone who is driving to the new airport, leave plenty of time and don't break the speed limit because there is a small van hidden with a gatso camera in the side, on one of the roads near the airport.
After leaving the M18 motorway and progressing through the route through {last 15 mins some very nice} parts of Doncaster most of the roads are fast and have speed limits of 60 or 70, but it drops suddenly to 40.
Aaarrrggghhh 01-05-2005, 14:18 Pity it only seems to cater for cheap holiday places. How about domestic - inland? I need to get to Glasgow and Inverness sometimes.... How about Heathrow..etc?
muddycoffee 01-05-2005, 15:17 Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
Pity it only seems to cater for cheap holiday places. I need to get to Glasgow and Inverness sometimes
Right Aaarrrggghhh, presuming that you would spend 1 hour driving to the new airport, you would have to wait 2 hours after check in, then the flight, 1 hour? so you are talking 4 hours to fly if there was an available service.
Whereas if you go on the train to glasgow it's 4 hours and 40 minutes. Plus however long it takes you to get to sheffield station. In my opinion it would be far more convenient to go on the train, with far better legroom and walking about etc..
Inverness on the train is 7h, 41 mins so you would be justified going by air.
Heathrow ? you can get to st pancras in 2h 20m, then you can get to heathrow on the tube. Which would be much quicker than flying there.
Aaarrrggghhh 01-05-2005, 16:07 Oh yeah I forgot that it was Bristol to Glasgi last time when I lived in Somerset... and there's Stornoway with the Highlands and Islands Airways and talk of revamping the Broadford strip on Skye.
cheers
prestonspal 03-05-2005, 08:35 Hi, Does anybody know of any plans for privately operated off-airport parking near DSA? I was in touch with a guy by the name of Jon Farman some time ago; he was apparently setting up a parking service under the name of "Carport UK Ltd." I e-mailed him recently, but no reply. The quote for 2 weeks June_July was £47.50 as against £72 on airport (was it too good to be true?). I'd be grateful for any info, TIA
muddycoffee 03-05-2005, 09:00 Prestonpal that's a great idea. The current parking arrangements are much more expensive than other airports which have decent parking away from the terminal. Presuming the airport lives up to it's promise, and currently they seem to be way ahead of forecasts, I'm sure it will only be a matter of time, before some off site parking is introduced.
prestonspal 03-05-2005, 11:15 Muddycoffee Yes it's amazing how much can be saved by parking off airport - I just paid less than 30 quid for 8 days with aph at Brum. I will try e-mailing this guy again I'm travelling from DSA at the end of June, so perhaps it may be a bit optimistic to hope that some enterprising person might have something up & running by then?
muddycoffee 03-05-2005, 19:50 I paid £42 for car parking at Nottingham east midlands airport for 8 days in march, but they seem to own all the carparks adjacent to the airport.
When I have flown from Manchester, there are loads of off airport carparks, and some are really cheap. And some are 20 minutes coach drive away too.
prestonspal 03-05-2005, 20:20 yes, they seem to have it pretty well sewn up at EMA (Nottingham? I think not!), as I recall, even the off airport parking is not too cheap. I tend to use Brum, although it is about an hour away as opposed to about 35 minutes for EMA. The flight availability is very good and the aph parking is convenient just off M42. I think DSA will be about the same as Brum from here (Alfreton, Derbys.) so if reasonably priced parking becomes available, it will be a very good alternative. I know it's early days yet, but I think that this kind of facility will make DSA a very attractive proposition, so come on you land-rich entrepreneurs!:idea:
bigflesh 03-05-2005, 21:05 the car park at DSA is huge! 2500 spaces, so that in itself is proof that peel are forecasting high volumes of passengers (wether more medium term we shall see). But yes I agree, all it needs is a farmer with a large enough field and a few thousand tonnes of hardcore to make a killing (just not sure if demand would be there "just" yet)
prestonspal 05-05-2005, 15:05 £72 seems to be the standard offer for online booking for 15 days parking 27 June - 12 July across alll the sites I have tried - anyone know of anything less?
scubatony61 14-05-2005, 08:57 Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport.
Whats in a name, what are peoples opinion of a name for an airport that is so long that it can not be said without shortening it to various words.
People associate Robin Hood with Nottingham and the Sheriff.
Even the signs around Doncaster are signed Robin Hood Airport and not the full title.
Certain Star reporters have given it various names.
Even the National papers do not give it the full title always shortening it to something else
Thompson in its brochure does not or did not call it "Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport"as the place to fly from.
I woulds like to start a poll:
1: If asked do you know where Robin Hood comes from
Yes / No
2: If asked do you know where Doncaster is Yes / No
I will not even start to tell you about the road infrastructure that has not....................... no I,m not going there.
It will be interesting to see the replies and the various opinions that come back
Regards
Tony
TOTLEYtunnel 14-05-2005, 16:59 Couldn't see the problem with "Doncaster Airport" but that would be far too difficult(!)
muddycoffee 14-05-2005, 17:15 Originally posted by scubatony61
People associate Robin Hood with Nottingham and the Sheriff.
Hmm, Robin Hood is always described as Robin of Loxley and Robin of sherwood but never Robin of Nottingham. Loxley is a district of sheffield, and Sherwood forest in those times was a vast area which spanned south yorkshire, nottinghamshire and derbyshire. It's true that nottingham town have always made a big thing about Robin, but only because they have tried to steal him as a brand.
Little john's grave is in hathersage and Loxley have a stag in their emblem, for over a century which represents robin hood.
muddycoffee 14-05-2005, 17:18 The symbol for the airport is DSA, which stands for Doncaster Sheffield Airport. Eventually I think people will call it that or even Doncaster. Manchester was originally ringway, but they rebranded it to manchester..
Most of the people who cause a fuss over the name I have heard, are people from rotherham who feel jelous that sheffield has laid claim to the airport which is closer to rotherham
If we have 'East Midlands' airport, why wasn't it just named 'South Yorkshire' airport instead of the convoluted 'Must keep everybody and his dog and his next door neighbour and the second cousin twice removed happy' name that it wound up with?
Originally posted by muddycoffee
The symbol for the airport is DSA, which stands for Doncaster Sheffield Airport. Eventually I think people will call it that or even Doncaster. Manchester was originally ringway, but they rebranded it to manchester..
Don't get me started on Speke Airport........
muddycoffee 14-05-2005, 17:21 Originally posted by Strix
If we have 'East Midlands' airport, why wasn't it just named 'South Yorkshire'
We did have,
East midlands is now called Nottingham East Midlands Airport.
Standstead is now called London standstead, but is nowhere near London.
Gatwick is London Gatwick, I've worked there, its 20 miles south of london.
muddycoffee 14-05-2005, 17:25 The best laugh I have had is visiting the webpages of Leeds Bradford airport. Leeds people who always see sheffield as country cousins and inferior to themselves, have their airport advertised with the strapline "yorkshire's premier airport"
Not for long Leeds.
In 2 years It looks Like DSA will overtake leeds with passenger numbers and push it into second place. DSA already has more destinations than Leeds Bradford. hee hee..
redrobbo 14-05-2005, 17:28 Originally posted by muddycoffee
Hmm, Robin Hood is always described as Robin of Loxley and Robin of sherwood but never Robin of Nottingham. Loxley is a district of sheffield, and Sherwood forest in those times was a vast area which spanned south yorkshire, nottinghamshire and derbyshire. It's true that nottingham town have always made a big thing about Robin, but only because they have tried to steal him as a brand.
Little john's grave is in hathersage and Loxley have a stag in their emblem, for over a century which represents robin hood.
Nottingham city, not town.
Sherwood forest is in Nottinghamshire.
Little John's grave, Hathersage, Derbyshire - surprised you've been taken in by this hoax muddycoffe.
Robin Hood and Maid Marion reputed to have been married at Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire (see church notice board).
Robin of Loxley - only connection with Yorkshire so far.
And...haven't you forgotten the Sheriff of Nottingham and Nottingham castle (all part of the Robin Hood fable).
Also, Adventures of Robin Hood (tourist attraction) - located in Nottingham city.
As for Robin Hood Airport. Good gimmick. Most people seem to be calling it Doncaster-Sheffield airport though.
Note: scubatony61 - there is a facility for starting a poll. You need to use this - as you can't conduct a poll via posts.
muddycoffee 14-05-2005, 17:42 Originally posted by redrobbo
Little John's grave, Hathersage, Derbyshire - surprised you've been taken in by this hoax muddycoffe.
Well the whole robin hood thing is at best thought to be an amalgam of various highwaymen anyhow. There are lots of things in yorkshire related to robin hood,
Robin hoods bay, Kirklees priory, where his grave is and the gatehouse where he died. Wakefield claim he was born there. There is a robin hood hamlet and lots of other places
Originally posted by redrobbo
Sherwood forest is in Nottinghamshire.
It is now, most of the country's forests were reduced, to a fraction of their former size on the orders of Henry VIII who built the all conquering British naval fleet
chris280 14-05-2005, 18:04 Robin Hood Airport,it should have been called South Yorkshire or Doncaster Airport but the people of the Doncaster area didn't have any say in the matter.
We will have to wait for Doncaster council to decide the route for the link roads and I am sorry to say speed is not a word which is used in the council chamber,they will have to go on a fact finding mission to somewhere exotic to collate the required information.
1Man&hisBMW 14-05-2005, 18:10 lets settle it and call it Rovvrem' International
Lostrider 14-05-2005, 18:55 I once read somewhere that Graves Park is the most northerly surviving part of Sherwood Forest.
Captain_Scarlet 14-05-2005, 19:11 Calling it DONCASTER AIRPORT is the way forward ...
Then put to the ground all the rubbish around SHEFFIELD AIRPORT and make it bigger so we don't have to go on't Parkway then M18 all the way to Dony ...
Originally posted by chris280
Robin Hood Airport,it should have been called South Yorkshire or Doncaster Airport
Doncaster Airport is the land they filled with a lake, Asda and the Dome, so that could be confusing :suspect:
This NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) (& women, I guess!!) was published today:
NOT FOR OPERATIONAL USE
** NEW ** C1973/05 (AGA) Saturday, 14 May 11:00 to Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:00
Aerodrome closed.
referring to Doncaster Sheffield Airport.
Anyone know what this is about?
scubatony61 15-05-2005, 06:46 Originally posted by muddycoffee
Most of the people who cause a fuss over the name I have heard, are people from rotherham who feel jelous that sheffield has laid claim to the airport which is closer to rotherham
I am neither I originally lived in Doncaster and now lived and work in Sheffield, so I can see it from both camps
scubatony61 15-05-2005, 07:10 Originally posted by redrobbo
Note: scubatony61 - there is a facility for starting a poll. You need to use this - as you can't conduct a poll via posts.
Sorry about that admin paople, but I seem to have stirred a hornets nest and something will rumble on
Notwithstanding the original Doncaster Airport which has now been built over, Lakeside,Dome, Asda etc
So back to the beginning for the poll
Question is:- Would all you people out there prefer the name Doncaster Airport or keep the the one that it is presently called
Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport
Answering Yes to Call it Doncaster Airport
Answering No to keep calling it Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport
My answer is Yes
I wonder why
Regards
Tony
bostonaire 15-05-2005, 07:15 Its Finningly to me , always has been and always will be ..... by the time youve said the title/place of where ya going to the taxi driver, youve probably missed your flight! :o
redrobbo 15-05-2005, 07:19 There should at least have been one alternative option, i.e., 'called something else'.
I think it should be called Sheffield-Doncaster airport, or better still, just Sheffield airport.
I have not voted in the circumstances.
Don_Kiddick 15-05-2005, 07:21 Aye to Finningley
Originally posted by Don_Kiddick
Aye to Finningley
Ditto!
nobikejohn 15-05-2005, 07:48 Originally posted by redrobbo
There should at least have been one alternative option, i.e., 'called something else'..
Like Liverpool airport which is named after someone famous who lived locally,(John Lennon). Why don't we do the same with Doncaster airport. How about Lesley Garratt International Airport:D
nbj
It's Speke airport, john. No matter how often they re-name the berluddy thing :mad: (Pandering to American berluddy tourists...rant...rant)
And Finningley should be called South Yorkshire Airport so nobody gets arsey, and it states where it is adequately.
If it had to incorporate something famous from the locality, why wasn't 'Ledger' used? Or, erm..... erm.... What else is Doncaster/South Yorks famous for?
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