Whats the difference between a pantry and a larder?
is one an older saying than the other?
or one bigger than the other?, when i was young we used to say both, and ours was just a walk in cupboard with a cold shelf,
is there a difference?

When I was a kid, and we lived in a post-war council house, we had a walk-in pantry.

Larders were what folk who lived in posh houses had.

Originally posted by redrobbo
When I was a kid, and we lived in a post-war council house, we had a walk-in pantry.

Larders were what folk who lived in posh houses had.
it must have been a pantry then, as i come from the wybourn, inuf said

...and the point is?

just an history lesson, it came up in a conversation in the pub

Is'nt a Pantry were pans and tinned goods were stored and a Larder where fresh or food that could be stored was kept.

Just a guess at defining the words

coyley, we had a pantry,with a cold slab,a coalhouse and a lavy,we were posh cause we had a nail on the lavs door with newspapers my sister and myself used to cut into squares,we were posher than you lot on the wybourn:clap: i came off the arbourthorne:hihi: :hihi:

Originally posted by roughy101
coyley, we had a pantry,with a cold slab,a coalhouse and a lavy,we were posh cause we had a nail on the lavs door with newspapers my sister and myself used to cut into squares,we were posher than you lot on the wybourn:clap: i came off the arbourthorne:hihi: :hihi:
I bet it was an indoor lavy, well ours was down yard, we had to keep a candel burning all night, 1 to stop the closit freezing and 2 so my dad could find his way home from pub

If they didnt use newspaper on the wybourn what on earth did they use:confused: the mind boggles.:loopy: Telegraph and stars wot we had...used to sit and read it first:loopy: :loopy: :hihi: ooo is it cos they couldent read on Wybourn:heyhey:

Originally posted by burnttoast
...used to sit and read it first:loopy:.......

You mean we were supposed to read it first !!!!!

We had 5"x5" squares of the Green 'Un. (except when we had company, then it was ten bob notes), and we'd choose the pieces with the opposition's players on to use.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by burnttoast
If they didnt use newspaper on the wybourn what on earth did they use:confused: the mind boggles.:loopy: Telegraph and stars wot we had...used to sit and read it first:loopy: :loopy: :hihi: ooo is it cos they couldent read on Wybourn:heyhey:
Who said we didnt have newspaper,and you say you used to sit and read it first, that means you must have had a light in the loo.
you must have come from totley then

We had a window:rolleyes: Totley?wi my spellin:thumbsup:

Here's an interesting survey.
Those of you who had an outside loo, how many had a Guzunder,jerry, or what ever you called it

Originally posted by coyleys
Here's an interesting survey.
Those of you who had an outside loo, how many had a Guzunder,jerry, or what ever you called it

Back to the post-war council house where I grew up as a kid....
we had both an inside and an outside loo, only we called them toilets in them days.

The inside toilet had loo rolls (remember Izal paper.....ouch!), and the outside loo had cut up squares of newspaper. My sister and I used to cut the newspaper up, (usually the Daily Mirror)..... but only after we'd eaten our fish and chips from them first! :wink:

Originally posted by redrobbo
Back to the post-war council house where I grew up as a kid....
we had both an inside and an outside loo, only we called them toilets in them days.

The inside toilet had loo rolls (remember Izal paper.....ouch!), and the outside loo had cut up squares of newspaper. My sister and I used to cut the newspaper up, (usually the Daily Mirror)..... but only after we'd eaten our fish and chips from them first! :wink:
I remember Izal but didnt it use to come in little square boxes, my dad used to " acquire" it from work

Originally posted by coyleys
Here's an interesting survey.
Those of you who had an outside loo, how many had a Guzunder,jerry, or what ever you called it

Sure! we all had guzunders, Guzunder the bed, i still have my grandmothers to this day, don't use it of course, it's a full set, worth quite a bit now, must be over 100 years old now.

Originally posted by coyleys
I remember Izal but didnt it use to come in little square boxes, my dad used to " acquire" it from work

Yes coyleys, you're right - Izal also came in little square boxes. We just had the ordinary loo roll type though - 'cos we weren't posh! :wink: :heyhey:

Thanks for all the repartee', I could not stop laughing.
They say a good laugh is good for you health, keep up this excellent therapy.

Cynthia, Canada.

We've still got a pantry in our house. It's like a little room under the stairs where we keep all our tinned things

Originally posted by burnttoast
ooo is it cos they couldent read on Wybourn:heyhey:

Or Spell :D

Does this bring back memories?

A 1960s Kitchen, which would have a Pantry.

Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding069.jpg)

my gran had a pantry. with a folding door that i got trapped behind and locked in many a time as a child . then her house was modernised and she went all posh calling it a larder !! ooh i say....:D

Originally posted by coyleys
I bet it was an indoor lavy, well ours was down yard, we had to keep a candel burning all night, 1 to stop the closit freezing and 2 so my dad could find his way home from pub our lav was in the porch at the side of the coalhouse,still freezing cold and yes we also had a jerry under the bed anyone know why they called it a jerry:gag:

The houses at Heeley had the pantry at the top of the cellar steps,not very big but there was a cupboard just opposite of the cellar door where my Mum put all the shopping & cakes she had baked,the cellar pantry was a bit damp.I can still remember those buns ,cakes & bread my Mum used to make,scrumches yum yum & our Lav was outside freezing in the winter.

As far as I am aware a pantry is a walk in cupboard and a larder is a type of cool box.

According to my dictionary a Pantry is a "Room where bread and other provisions are kept",and a Larder is"Where meat and other provisions are kept",and we too had an outside loo,for our use only,and every year for bonfire night my Father would make life-sized Guy Fawkes and store it in the loo, and one dark night my grandmother went to the loo, quickly returning in quite a state as white a sheet saying"Oh God theres a man in the toilet",and of course we all fell about laughing, and every year around November the 5th we used to say "Watch out for man in the lavatory grandma

Originally posted by burnttoast
If they didnt use newspaper on the wybourn what on earth did they use:confused: the mind boggles.:loopy: Telegraph and stars wot we had...used to sit and read it first:loopy: :loopy: :hihi: ooo is it cos they couldent read on Wybourn:heyhey: the rent book,court orders and warrants, and YES, i was born on the wybourn

Wybourne, Arbourthorne, posh? I came from the poshest of all, Brightside! Stepped out the door right on to the street. Looked just like Corrie when it would come on with that dreadful music.
We called a guzunda a poe. When you only had a lavvie in the yard and it froze you had a real problem. The walk in Pantry in our Tinsley house saved our lives during the blitz. We were sheltering in it when a bomb destroyed the house. We dug ourselves out. I was eight years old.

Originally posted by viking
Does this bring back memories?

A 1960s Kitchen, which would have a Pantry.

Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding069.jpg) i take it you dont like decorating then

Originally posted by viking
Does this bring back memories?

A 1960s Kitchen, which would have a Pantry.

Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding069.jpg)

Viking, Is that a candle stuck in a bunt pan on the table ?

A mate of mine lived down Brightside up to the 1960's.Their house had an outside loo and he told me few funny stories , concerning his visits.
Perhaps the funnies was that the main London-Scottish railway line used to pass , literally a few yards from where he'd be sitting. He said the noise was such that it was always easier to , "go" as the train went past !However much you thought you'd got used to it , it still scared the s**t out of you.

On my Moms first visit to me in the US about 40 years ago, she went to the lav and pulled the cord in back of her and pulled the bathroom window shades down right on top of her, she thought it was a flush chain we had.

I lived in Heeley, but all we had was "at top of cellar head",
and God knows how we coped, we only had one plug in the kitchen, and our cooker was a hot plate so that used the only plug, there was only one plug in the room too, but I used to play my Dansette record player in there, but I never realised anyone was any differant, those Dansettes were pretty good
10 records all at once!That's living!!

Originally posted by viking
Or Spell :D nice one:blush:

Originally posted by viking
Does this bring back memories?

A 1960s Kitchen, which would have a Pantry.

Here (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding069.jpg) i have just put your house up for a 60min makeover lol(it needs a sixty yr makeover) let me know how you get on with claire sweeney.

Originally posted by Applegrim
I lived in Heeley, but all we had was "at top of cellar head",
and God knows how we coped, we only had one plug in the kitchen, and our cooker was a hot plate so that used the only plug, there was only one plug in the room too, but I used to play my Dansette record player in there, but I never realised anyone was any differant, those Dansettes were pretty good
10 records all at once!That's living!!
Hi it sounds just like our old house on Forster Rd & our outside loo & and the bath on a nail on the wall outside of the backdoor.Oh the good old days LOL

Originally posted by roughy101
i have just put your house up for a 60min makeover lol(it needs a sixty yr makeover) let me know how you get on with claire sweeney.

We like it, our other room is HERE (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding059.jpg)

Originally posted by viking
We like it, our other room is HERE (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding059.jpg)

Viking, i just love that room, so English, does the TV work ?

Originally posted by nitelife40
my gran had a pantry. with a folding door that i got trapped behind and locked in many a time as a child . then her house was modernised and she went all posh calling it a larder !! ooh i say....:D
So i take it from that, that a pantry is an older saying than a larder?

Originally posted by viking
We like it, our other room is HERE (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding059.jpg)
If im not mistaken thats a VHF 405 line TV

Originally posted by roughy101
our lav was in the porch at the side of the coalhouse,still freezing cold and yes we also had a jerry under the bed anyone know why they called it a jerry:gag:
I think because it looked like a WW2 german helmet

we had a bucket at the top of the stairs just for number 1s and a tin bath many a time walked in to find my dad washing the coal dust off after a shift down the pit. in front of the yorkshire range.

A pantry is where you store food and a larder is a Russian car made out of discarded tin cans from your pantry:hihi::hihi:

As far as I am aware a pantry is a walk in cupboard and a larder is a type of cool box.

I think you're spot on, lived in Leicester for a while and we had both house around the 30s??

Having a second think could larder come from the days before fridg'when the pigs lard had to be kept in a cool dark place for the harsh winter realy same as a root cell ?often dug into somewere cool and dark to keep your spuds in ,also think pantry was walk in for dry goods

Having a second think could larder come from the days before fridg'when the pigs lard had to be kept in a cool dark place for the harsh winter realy same as a root cell ?often dug into somewere cool and dark to keep your spuds in ,also think pantry was walk in for dry goods

And thats where you kept the drippin pot.

Whats the difference between a pantry and a larder?
is one an older saying than the other?
or one bigger than the other?, when i was young we used to say both, and ours was just a walk in cupboard with a cold shelf,
is there a difference?

On is for dry goods and the other is cold and for fresh goods.

Is my guess.

We like it, our other room is HERE (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/viking99/castle%20museum/wedding059.jpg)

Those pictures brought back loads of memories of visiting the museum in York,are the rooms still there? I visit York alot but usually just see the shops and the pubs these days!! :)

Those pictures brought back loads of memories of visiting the museum in York,are the rooms still there? I visit York alot but usually just see the shops and the pubs these days!! :)

I still have our old biscuit barrel just like the one in the pict :)

A few years ago we took our daughter to the 1940s house in the Imperial War Museum, she said its not much different to our house.

I remember when we moved into our house on Southey Green Estate in the 50s the men came to paint the bathroom & kitchen they did like a sponge painting design on the walls but they used a rubber gadget with slits in it and just dabbed it all over the walls , it must have been a standard paint job as they did it in all the houses the without asking, then few years ago sponge painting came into style...nothing new to the council back in the 40/50s.

On is for dry goods and the other is cold and for fresh goods.

Is my guess.That's the way I see it too. Larder used as cold storage for fresh foods and fitted with cold slab-shelf usually situated furthest from living and heated areas of the house, and pantry for storage of crockery, pans, tinned and dry goods much the same as modern-day kitchen cabinets.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pantry

we had a bucket at the top of the stairs just for number 1s and a tin bath many a time walked in to find my dad washing the coal dust off after a shift down the pit. in front of the yorkshire range.

We had a pantry,with a cold shelf in it and like cleanup.....A nice plastic bucket to wee in on the landing..:hihi:

We had a pantry,with a cold shelf in it and like cleanup.....A nice plastic bucket to wee in on the landing..:hihi:

Ours was a posh red bucket we called it The Tiddle Bucket