View Full Version : Malcolm Glazer's Grubby Little Hands....


Macca
12-05-2005, 13:53
...are all over Man United.

Apparently he's managed to buy out Magnier and McManus, and so owns 57% of the club......

Foxxx
12-05-2005, 14:51
To quote someone I work with...

"Excellent, perhaps he'll move the club to London and call it The red Sox"!

Macca
12-05-2005, 14:55
One of my mates said..."it's gonna be just like the budweiser advert"

:lol:

And if you look closely you'll notice the Monster trucks are at Old Trafford on said advert....

redinsheff
12-05-2005, 15:37
£300m of it is in bank loans....it's a slippery slope for the reds...McManus & Magnier have cut & run with 300p a share - gutted!

Yodameister
12-05-2005, 15:53
Football has sold its soul out to naked capitalism, and Manchester United, in the vanguard of that sell out will be its first victim.

patchalan
12-05-2005, 19:02
Well it looks like Malcolm Glazer is to get overall control of Man Utd. To the disapproval of the fans, How i wish we could get a saviour at H illsbrough

Lee_Sutton
12-05-2005, 19:43
If you call a man burdening Man U (or any other club) with a £300m debt as a saviour, there's something wrong with you.

He is not an Abramovich - ticket prices are now going to increase steeply and this money plus merchandise and tv revenue is merely going to pay off his loan (in Man U's name of course) and then line his pockets.

Take it from me - you do not need a Malcolm Glazer.

Lickszz
12-05-2005, 19:51
Threads merged.

carcrash
13-05-2005, 02:26
I wouldn't be to sure about that. This bloke took the tampa bay bucsand won the superball. They were one of the worst teams in NFL for years and even with the draft system they didn't get anywhere until he took over.
This might be the shot in the arm that mufc need. Hopefully it won't be and they will be bankrupt in 5 years time

Abdul
13-05-2005, 06:35
Radio Sheffield tell me Glazier now has 70% of the club. There were some fantastic quotes on the radio this morning:

Radio Sheffield - "Hundreds of fans are outside, burning their season ticket renewal forms"
My response - Because the other 79,800 season ticket holders are at home in Essex

Radio Sheffield - "Glazier has never set foot in Old Trafford"
My response - Neither have 99.9% of ManU fans

21steve
13-05-2005, 08:04
Originally posted by carcrash
I wouldn't be to sure about that. This bloke took the tampa bay bucsand won the superball. They were one of the worst teams in NFL for years and even with the draft system they didn't get anywhere until he took over.
This might be the shot in the arm that mufc need. Hopefully it won't be and they will be bankrupt in 5 years time

it took 8 years for the bucs to win the super bowl and he raised tiket prices and made the local council pay for the stadium.

THE END OF FOOTBALL AS WE KNOW IT!

Gutted

Macca
13-05-2005, 08:08
Make your club a Public Limited Company; which makes funds available for you to invest in the team; which allows you to dominate for the best part of a decade, then the minute a member of the public shows an interest in said company your fans are up in arms.

Well you were happy to get the money in the first place. You reap what you sow.

"There is always someone bigger than you"

scottf
13-05-2005, 08:31
To pay off the debt that he is going to burden them with (if he manages to take them private again) they need to finish second and get to the 1/4finals of the league EVERY SEASON- i can't see that happening!!!!

JoeP
13-05-2005, 09:49
I'm not a sports fan but, as has been pointed out, none of the fans were whining when MU went public and got a stack of money to build the team.

The very process that created MU as it is today will destroy it - that's how capitalism works.

Joe

MobileB
13-05-2005, 09:58
Actually Joe, I think hes taking them back Private. Yeah hes going to mortgage the ground to pay for it, but really on Man U's revenues this is more than affordable. He will increase prices but when you have 30,000 on a season ticket waiting list I do not think this will be problem.

He took Tampa Bay and turned them around into a club that is now worth EIGHTY times what he bought it for 10 years ago. This guy is quite astute and watch the marketing machine that is Manchester United go into overdrive. Ferguson talked about quitting - he wont go because he knows hes going to get money to invest in the team. Glazier will want him to stay because he is the link between the board and the fans.

Rather than be destroyed, I think they will go on further (ala Chelsea). I will agree with poster though, its a bad day for football.

patchalan
13-05-2005, 10:13
Demand out numbers supply and they know this, of cause prices will go up, what does it matter to the share holders, some one some where will pay the admission price.

redinsheff
13-05-2005, 13:10
Apparently in today's press there's talk of a 5 year plan being put into place, with £100m available to buy players...

We shall see....

Lickszz
13-05-2005, 14:15
The ticket prices have always been pretty good at Old Trafford but I can see them been increased significantly now Glazer has control.

And what will happen with Fergie? I hear they don't get on.

Yodameister
13-05-2005, 16:41
Don't get confused between Abramovich and Glazer.

Abramovich is the second richest Russian (I believe the richest one is in prison for fraud) and outright owns Chelsea and pours millions into it every week.

Glazer has borrowned hundreds of millions to fund this takeover and he is doing it more as a standard business deal.

I don't want to praise Glazer, but compared to the moral bankrupt that is Abramovich he is a saint.

There are countless huge differences between the two men and how they have taken over the respective clubs.

Don_Kiddick
14-05-2005, 04:56
Anyone so passionate and upset by this, could boycott Glazers companies & sign the petition
Here

http://www.imusa.org/glazer/index.php

Yodameister
14-05-2005, 10:30
The only weapon that fans have against Glazer is to not go to the games and not do anything.

Literally "I will not support the team while you are in charge". Some lily livered luke warm thing like not buying replica shirts is unlikely to succeed.

If every Manchester United home match is empty Glazer marketing the TV rights across the globe is not going to be very successful.

Takeovers like this are going to become the norm in football, and it is the inevitable result of the process that was started with the formation of the Premier League. Blaming Glazer for it is just being wilfully naive.

Robbie Loving
14-05-2005, 11:09
This man has put all his money in to it, he is not going to try and ruin a football club, as everything he has is in this.

i can't see what the problem is at the moment, he has not even made one decision with regards the runing of the club as of yet.

give him a chance

bazmanau
14-05-2005, 12:51
I wonder if he as a spare 27 million quid? sure would help to get Wednesday out of the lurch.

Lickszz
14-05-2005, 12:54
I read somewhere that Glazer was a Leeds fan. I would have thought he would be wanting to help them out before Wednesday. :D

Ginner
14-05-2005, 13:49
Originally posted by Lickszz
And what will happen with Fergie? I hear they don't get on.
Apparently the Glazer family (don't forget son Joel is the driving force behind this deal) have publically stated they want Fergie to stay on.... heard that one before...!

Looks like a ticket price hike is almost a given, but I think Chelsea's prices were hiked at some point (either pre or post Abramovich?), and it didn't stop them from selling out the ground. Soemone will always pay top price for seeing top flight Prem footy, and Glazer will know this. As someone else has said, he ain't stupid (altough he definately looks stupid!)
However this article from BBC news website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4543215.stm) seems to suggest that manipulating the TV rights isn't going to be all that easy for him.....

Yodameister
14-05-2005, 14:42
Yes as the Premiership rules currently are 3/4 of the teams (ie another 14) would need to agree to scrap the collective TV bargaining.

However, the EU already has the view that collective bargaining is contrary to competition laws and I guess Glazer is hoping that that all comes to a head fairly soon (and to invest hundreds of millions of pounds suggests he is quite confident)

foxy027
15-05-2005, 00:12
The Chelsea fans were non to pleased when a certain Russian tycoon took over....The are'nt complaining now!

Robbie Loving
15-05-2005, 09:09
Originally posted by foxy027
The Chelsea fans were non to pleased when a certain Russian tycoon took over....The are'nt complaining now!

its not in the same league really, you can not compare the 2 business men

bazmanau
15-05-2005, 12:23
When it all boils down who really gives a ****, it teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Man u which causes all the other teams to struggle by getting themselves into so much debt trying to matching them.
Like all the money thrown down the road By Wednesday on those useless Italians they had.

Yodameister
15-05-2005, 13:33
Originally posted by bazmanau
When it all boils down who really gives a ****, it teams like Arsenal, Chelsea, Man u which causes all the other teams to struggle by getting themselves into so much debt trying to matching them.
Like all the money thrown down the road By Wednesday on those useless Italians they had.

Well, thank you for that cogently argues precis of the economic state of football in this country.

I don't really think many of the teams in the 3rd and 4th divisions are in their current poor financial state due to any delusions that they would one day be the biggest club in the counrty.

And until now Manchester United didn't get to their current very strong position by getting themselves into debt, so it wasn't ManU's example that they were following.