View Full Version : Brian Howard - Confirmed to be a Blade


Dimitri 11
27-09-2008, 19:12
There are rumours that Brian Howard is due to sign for the Blades on Monday - initially on loan with a view to him signing permanently in January.

I will glad if this signing goes through - what does anyone else think?

CorkerSWFC
27-09-2008, 19:15
He could do ok for you Howard, he hasn't done much this season though 1 goal isnt it and Barnsley are second from bottom?

Bladesman
27-09-2008, 19:33
Howard should be a decent signing.

Certainly been crying out for a player like him for years.

Musampa will hopefully be a good signing if It happens.

Dimitri 11
27-09-2008, 19:53
He could do ok for you Howard, he hasn't done much this season though 1 goal isnt it and Barnsley are second from bottom?

Barnsley fans are saying that he doesn't seem up for it anymore and that they are glad to see him go. I think maybe he has lost his appetite as he is at a club that has very little chance of getting to the Prem (no offence to any Barnsley fans but it is true) and has been waiting to move to a club with genuine Prem ambitions. Even if people don't think we have the capability to get to the Prem we certainly have more chance than Barnsley and Howard will be looking at that as well.

We need an attacking mid and Howard fits the bill for me - time will tell if he is good enough but I think he has been looking to get away from Barnsley and this is partly to do with his dip in form.

I think this will be a good signing for us.

Dimitri 11
27-09-2008, 19:57
Howard should be a decent signing.

Certainly been crying out for a player like him for years.

Musampa will hopefully be a good signing if It happens.

He will certainly provide a boost to the fans for a while anyway - the vast majority of Blades are happy with this development.

I am glad with Musampa as well although to be honest I haven't seen that much of him. Another Blade on here doesn't rate him whatsoever and no Man City fans have provided any info. Personally I think bring him in as long as his wage demands aren't too much.

One thing that is for sure is that at least Blackwell is trying to improve us - realistically it is very difficult to bring in good players in the Jan transfer window never mind the period when the transfer window is shut.

CorkerSWFC
27-09-2008, 20:23
Sometime's too many signings can cause either unrest or take time to gel, one thing what Wednesday seem to have got at this time is cohesion, apart from 2 strange results we have had a pretty good start, all be it after only a few games.
We have decent players to come in which arnt costing us any money so Sodje Jeffers and Simek are 3 million plus players to come in, can't wait for the derby.

Dimitri 11
27-09-2008, 20:42
Sometime's too many signings can cause either unrest or take time to gel.

Certainly true but I think Howard is the type of player we are looking for and would rather take him on board than not. Time will tell and I will also not be disappointed if Musampa signs.

The derby looks like it will be set up nicely and Sky must be happy about this the most.

CorkerSWFC
27-09-2008, 21:30
It certainly promises to be a top occasion i think whichever team loses looking on the points total from both could be pivatal, i don't like to tip wednesday much but i have fancied us all season even because of our 2 shocking results we have got a really genuine chance of doing summat this season, we can beat any1 on our day, we are very inconsistent but have got something to build on, we have some momentum at the moment and by tuesday at ten oclock we could be on 15 points out of 9 game's which is a pretty healthy return in any league.

tosh13
27-09-2008, 23:31
I predicted this today,I was painting my fence & I heard on RS that Howard was going to sit behind the dugout in his T shirt Shorts & Flip Flops & I said to our lass he is coming to the Lane,a few Barnsley fans where I live said he wanted to come to the Lane in the last transfer window ,but nothing came of it.I have predicted both Sheffield teams to win on the predictions league & I predicted Howard coming to the Lane & I won a tenner on the lottery.

CorkerSWFC
27-09-2008, 23:32
I predicted this today,I was painting my fence & I heard on RS that Howard was going to sit behind the dugout in his T shirt Shorts & Flip Flops & I said to our lass he is coming to the Lane,a few Barnsley fans where I live said he wanted to come to the Lane in the last transfer window ,but nothing came of it.I have predicted both Sheffield teams to win on the predictions league & I predicted Howard coming to the Lane & I won a tenner on the lottery.

Any chance of a tip tommorow for Ascot m8 lol :thumbsup:

tosh13
27-09-2008, 23:41
I will let you know in the morning CorkerSWFC when I look at the paper but don't blame me if they lose.LOL

CorkerSWFC
27-09-2008, 23:44
I will let you know in the morning CorkerSWFC when I look at the paper but don't blame me if they lose.LOL

Lol im used to it the amount of jip i get on ere for bad tips i would be a hypocrit lol.:thumbsup:

swervin
28-09-2008, 11:56
he's been upset and wanted away they touted him in the close season for £3m but wanted to pay him mickymouse wages no takers. now he,s comming to us for £600,000

igm1
28-09-2008, 12:03
I've heard mixed things about him, but still for 600k for Howard is a great deal for United.

sheff71
28-09-2008, 14:47
Sometime's too many signings can cause either unrest or take time to gel, one thing what Wednesday seem to have got at this time is cohesion, apart from 2 strange results we have had a pretty good start, all be it after only a few games.
We have decent players to come in which arnt costing us any money so Sodje Jeffers and Simek are 3 million plus players to come in, can't wait for the derby.

Did you mean 3 players rated at least at £1 million each, or all together they're worth £3m? I can certainly see Sodje fetching well over a million, he looks a brute of a striker, and Simek I could see maybe around the £1 million mark in a bidding war, but in all honestly I don't think anyone would waste more than £100k on Jeffers - always seems completely overrated, and regularly injured, living on a reputation from his Everton days that he's never really matched - which i'm sure could be levelled at many of the blades strikers of recent times too!).

How far is Sodje away from fitness? If he plays in the derby, I worry about United's chances - if he's still out, I think we should be fairly comfortable at the back (certainly compared to the pathetic performance at Hillsboro' last January).

I also hope the Wednesday groundstaff don't let the pitch be in the same state it was in back then, like playing on a mudbath, it seemed!

Dimitri 11
28-09-2008, 17:53
I've heard mixed things about him, but still for 600k for Howard is a great deal for United.

Basically we've got Howard and about 1.5 mil instead of Tonge and when you look at it that way it's a brilliant deal.

A lot of Barnsley fans are saying he didn't seem up for it a lot of the time but I reckon that was because he wanted out. With all due respect to Barnsley he is moving to a bigger club and one with genuine Premiership ambitions - I think he'll be up for it with us.

A Man City fan has said Musampa was mainly a central midfielder so whether we will still get him now Howard is coming I don't know. He rates Musampa though and says he will get goals for us - personally I want both as we don't have any genuine attacking midfielders.

doubletop
28-09-2008, 22:39
Rumours of Birmingham hijacking the deal

CorkerSWFC
28-09-2008, 22:57
Did you mean 3 players rated at least at £1 million each, or all together they're worth £3m? I can certainly see Sodje fetching well over a million, he looks a brute of a striker, and Simek I could see maybe around the £1 million mark in a bidding war, but in all honestly I don't think anyone would waste more than £100k on Jeffers - always seems completely overrated, and regularly injured, living on a reputation from his Everton days that he's never really matched - which i'm sure could be levelled at many of the blades strikers of recent times too!).

How far is Sodje away from fitness? If he plays in the derby, I worry about United's chances - if he's still out, I think we should be fairly comfortable at the back (certainly compared to the pathetic performance at Hillsboro' last January).

I also hope the Wednesday groundstaff don't let the pitch be in the same state it was in back then, like playing on a mudbath, it seemed!

Sorry i missed this 1, i meant Simek is worth at least 1.5 million defo , Sodje is worth at least 1.5 million with his championship goalscoring record, and maybe 100.000 from Jeffers.
Even with my crap maths that works out to 3.1 mill.

sheff71
28-09-2008, 23:55
that's fine, just couldn't imagine Jeffers being a £1m player anymore :) Although as Tongey went for £2m to Stoke, who knows...!!

jossyboy
29-09-2008, 06:15
confirmed on RS this morning, loan initially with view to a full deal

Robbie Loving
29-09-2008, 08:06
Good signing to be honest, and one I am happy with.

If the figure of 600k is correct, this is a steal.

I know he hasn't been performing for Barnsley, but as Dimitri says, this will be more down to him wanting a move elsewhere.

jossyboy
29-09-2008, 10:17
yeah pleased with this signing, 600k is deffo a good deal i'd swap howard for tongue anyday

Bladesman
29-09-2008, 10:21
600k daylight robbery when you consider the daft money their chairmen was after last season.

Howard should do well for us I think.

scottf
29-09-2008, 10:53
great deal for the blades, he's 27, can run all day and is great at tackles- if i were monty this morning i would be nervous because this lad actually has a shot on him too!!

freyasdad
29-09-2008, 12:20
Excellent signing.
It is what we have been wanting for a long time.

sufc007
29-09-2008, 13:28
Sometime's too many signings can cause either unrest or take time to gel, one thing what Wednesday seem to have got at this time is cohesion, apart from 2 strange results we have had a pretty good start, all be it after only a few games.
We have decent players to come in which arnt costing us any money so Sodje Jeffers and Simek are 3 million plus players to come in, can't wait for the derby.

what a jealous pig

Dimitri 11
29-09-2008, 13:33
great deal for the blades, he's 27, can run all day and is great at tackles- if i were monty this morning i would be nervous because this lad actually has a shot on him too!!

Great deal I reckon and £600,000 is nothing these days - Armstrong went for more than that. Also, he's 25 and not 27 (I saw it on the Blades Mad site and looked it up after) so he's at the age where players are generally said to be coming into their peak - Brown was around that age when he played so well for us.

Bladesman
29-09-2008, 15:15
He has signed subject to medical according to Blacky on RS. :D

NERVY-OWL
29-09-2008, 15:20
for that price it is a steal, 1 of barnsleys best players not long ago. even if he does nothing you havent lost out on too much

NERVY-OWL
29-09-2008, 15:24
our pitch is usually good, like to see how your pitch would be after being under 6ft of water and only having a couple of weeks to let the new turf settle

Bladesman
29-09-2008, 15:25
United are poised to complete the loan signing of Barnsley captain Brian Howard.

Both clubs dampened down speculation that the deal was imminent over the weekend but Kevin Blackwell broke the silence on Monday afternoon:

"We have agreed a deal with Barnsley and the player and he will shortly be having his medical. If that goes satisfactorily, he will sign a three-month loan deal with an agreed deal at the end of that period."

Kevin added: "Brian brings goals. Every team needs extra fire power and you certainly need that in this division. If the source of goals dries up in one area, you need it from another. There has been a lot of responsibility on Gary Speed at both ends of the pitch but Brian has a goal in him, he will help us in that department."

Howard, of course, scored the late winner that dumped Liverpool out of last season's FA Cup and played an instrumental role as the Tykes progressed to the semi-finals of the competition.

The midfielder, 25, began his career with Southampton and was also at Swindon Town before arriving at Oakwell in 2005.

In addition, Kiki Musampa and Quinton Fortune began their trial spells at Shirecliffe on Monday.

Assistant manager Sam Ellis said: "They took part in a practice match this morning and will train with the development squad on Tuesday. Later in the week they will join up with the first team for training and then we will make an assessment."

Ellis also confirmed that the two Spanish triallists have yet to arrive, explaining that a problem in communication had delayed their trial period.

http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~1407629,00.html

F. Sidebottom
30-09-2008, 07:30
Paul Walker on Radio Sheffield this morning said the story had been pulled from the blades web site after last night's medical, and there was a possibility it might not go through.

scottf
30-09-2008, 08:08
I heard that, its worrying although i guess thats what medicals are for?

Bladesman
30-09-2008, 09:42
His medical was this morning.

Blades fend off rival bid to land Howard
Published Date: 30 September 2008
By James Shield

SHEFFIELD United beat off competition from two unnamed Championship clubs to sign Barnsley midfielder Brian Howard on loan.
As thestar.co.uk predicted on Saturday, United manager Kevin Blackwell confirmed Howard's capture after holding talks with the player and his representatives following the 2-1 victory over Watford.

Howard, who is expected to complete a full £500,000 transfer in January, could make his United debut at Doncaster Rovers this evening.

But Blackwell's assistant, Sam Ellis, revealed that Bramall Lane was not the only destination open to the 25-year-old.

"There were a couple of others interested in him," Ellis said.

Howard's decision will be a major source of encouragement to Blackwell as he applies the finishing touches to his squad.

Quinton Fortune and Kiki Musampa have joined fellow trialists Seb Carole and Ian Harte at Shirecliffe with Hossam Ghaly's agent claiming Tottenham's Egypt international is another potential target.

Blackwell, reporting no fresh injury concerns ahead of the trip to The Keepmoat Stadium, said: "We need creativity from midfield and Brian will give us that.

"Brian brings goals. Every team needs extra firepower

Keith Gillespie has been selected for Northern Ireland's World Cup qualifiers against Slovenia and San Marino despite being told he is free to leave United. David Cotterill has been named in the Wales squad which meets Liechtenstein and Germany.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/Blades-fend-off-rival-bid.4540396.jp

CorkerSWFC
30-09-2008, 10:15
what a jealous pig

The words your actually looking for are "realistic Wednesdayite".:thumbsup:

mickdalewood
30-09-2008, 10:49
Looks like he could be off to Birmingham

2tjohnston
30-09-2008, 10:54
http://www.barnsleyfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10309~1408144,00.html

Really Thought he had signed with view to a medical this morning

8balltiger
30-09-2008, 11:36
The Dingles probably got offered a brand new combine harvester by Ipswich and just to be awkward have taken back their word, let's re-gazump by offering a combine harvester,a pitchfork and a musket

boboskins
30-09-2008, 11:40
Oh dear a bigger club has come in and stolen him from under your noses!

Didn't realise the Owls were after a midfielder :P

igm1
30-09-2008, 11:41
To be honest, I think that the Blades can do better. Howard is overrated.

So may be a blessing for them. :(

CorkerSWFC
30-09-2008, 11:58
After all the discusions about him in the last 48 hours this may teach a few people too keep quiet while the deal is done like we have been getting told all season.
Egg on faces big time this story.

8balltiger
30-09-2008, 12:07
The deal appears to have been made but Barnsley have reneged on it.
wouldn't surprise me if there was no other offer and it's just a ploy to either squeeze more cash from us or payback for Howard wanting to leave in such circumstances.

Why should it affect the loan deal?

2tjohnston
30-09-2008, 12:11
I heard that Birmingham have made an offer.

8balltiger
30-09-2008, 12:16
Howard strikes me as the type of person that will grab the money and/or go to the higher club regardless of a "done deal" , hence the wantaway attitude at Barnsley

sheff71
30-09-2008, 12:48
No great surprise that his has happened - it seemed really odd to be announcing it in the first place before they'd actually got him signed and sealed... it does smell of Barnsley suddenly realising they could start an auction, and so leaked it to the press at the end of last week. Surprised why Brum would want him though, they seem to have more than enough quality in midfield already, so just another wage on the bill for them.

Not quite in the mould of Wednesday turning down Cantona before Leeds got him though (or the blades supposedly turning down Maradona - apparently he was a bit like Monty at the time :)).

It would be good to see the other club change their mind, and United to withdraw their interest also, and leave Barnsley with a wantaway player - but as always, big money talks, especially to the Dingles...

scottf
30-09-2008, 12:48
looks like brum have come in and offered 800k and barnsley have pulled out of the deal with the blades and have offered this new deal to howard.

Its all down to him though- if howard still wants to come to the blades then its deal back on.



You can't really accuse the blades fans of jumping the gun though- it was on the official site saying he had signed subject to a medical- its the club who have jumped the gun on this one- very unprofessional.

abbasinho
30-09-2008, 14:52
Howard's selfish attitude amazes me. He's obviously told Barnsley he wants out and doesn't want to play. It reminds me of how Bougherra managed to go from being a hero to the most hated man in Hillsborough when he spat his dummy out when Charlton came knocking - where is he now?

I read an article in the paper with Howard, in the run up to last year's semi-final, more or less saying he was ready to turn his back on Barnsley if a big club came in for him, and that Barnsley fans would understand this. All this after one decent season, i'd never heard of him until last year and I'm mates with two Oakwell season ticket holders. A few goals and suddenly he's Premiership class. Just ask Michael Brown, you're not that good.

I couldn't believe the way he virtually dissappeared for 4/5 games to save himself being booked and therefore missing the semi-final. If Davey had anything about him he would have dropped him, his inclusion almost relegated them.

United could do a lot better than Howard. With all the potential riches coming into the club they could attract a much higher calibre of player, not some one season wonder... and that's coming from a Wednesday fan.

swervin
30-09-2008, 15:06
one door closes another ooooooopens keep smiling we will get there in the end

Earwiggo
30-09-2008, 15:20
Guffaw, guffaw, guffaw. :hihi: :hihi:

Skunked by the mighty Brum... or maybe not.

It's on and off more than 'the takeover'.

July 1st

swervin
30-09-2008, 15:41
HE'S A BLADE
signed and sealed £500,000 on loan till january

scottf
30-09-2008, 15:52
source????

Booo
30-09-2008, 15:54
whats happening here, I'm confused

has he signed or not, can't believe we won't pay what they want, for gods sake
mr mc cabe spend some money, whats wrong with you?

scottf
30-09-2008, 15:54
its not sheffield united thats the problem booo- its barnsley who are holding everything up.

Bladesman
30-09-2008, 15:58
Im confused.

tosh13
30-09-2008, 16:00
According to the Barnsley OS the deal was knocked back because of a sell on clause,why should Barnsley get a sell on fee ,he came from Swindon on a free transfer,greedy Breadcakes.

tosh13
30-09-2008, 16:02
According to the DM it's Charlton who have made the offer.
According to the Barnsley OS the deal was knocked back because of a sell on clause,why should Barnsley get a sell on fee ,he came from Swindon on a free transfer,greedy Breadcakes

scottf
30-09-2008, 16:02
because he is there player and has the potential to be a great player- united do it all the time, it just makes good business sense.

scottf
30-09-2008, 16:04
Guffaw, guffaw, guffaw. :hihi: :hihi:

Skunked by the mighty Brum... or maybe not.

It's on and off more than 'the takeover'.

July 1st


One day of uncertainty compared to virtually a whole years worth of hilarious back-tracking and retracted statements.
Give over- were not even in the same league when it comes to baordroom cokc-ups.

Earwiggo
30-09-2008, 16:05
This is the only thing I can find, but it's from this morning at 10 am. Later reports on other sites still maintain that Howard is talking to 'other clubs'.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/Blades-fend-off-rival-bid.4540396.jp

scottf
30-09-2008, 16:09
yeah thats all i have heard- i think the OP is using old information.

tosh13
30-09-2008, 16:19
Well I hope the Star is right it's getting a bit silly,one minute we have him the next someone else has him,there is nothing on the United OS.

Booo
30-09-2008, 16:19
i agree barnsley deserve a sell on fee
they have helped him become what he is.

we should just get on and give em the 2m we got for tonge
and all the others we have sold

whats going on at the lane, why is the stadium an ad for the chairmans businesses

valad stand, fraziers property stand, we even buy players to help these

businesses, carney(austrailia valad) chinese players(far east interests)

new goalie from malta( malta stand and shirts) is the balance right

are we justan add for private business . Can we not afford Brian howard?

Snook
30-09-2008, 16:54
I've heard he is moving to another club now and its all sorted.

swervin
30-09-2008, 16:58
in tonights star we fought off 2 other clubs and he's travelling tonight

Snook
30-09-2008, 17:04
in tonights star we fought off 2 other clubs and he's travelling tonight

Link (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/Breaking-Barnsley-reject-Sheffield-United39s.4541692.jp) Updated 2 hours ago.

Darkoak
30-09-2008, 17:17
According to Calendar L**ds just now, he will sign for United in the morning.

Apparently, Charlton Athletic came in with a better offer than United, but Howard has turned it down, saying he wants to play for the Blades,

And who can blame him....;)

Snook
30-09-2008, 17:25
I just hope it all gets sorted soon!

swervin
30-09-2008, 18:01
its just been on look leeds but did'nt quite catch what the she-man said

emellylil
30-09-2008, 18:08
its been a cover up he is on the bench tonight

emellylil
30-09-2008, 18:10
now off again what the f*** is going on

Snook
30-09-2008, 18:12
now off again what the f*** is going on

That was a confusing two minutes! Where did you get the info from?

alex3659
30-09-2008, 18:13
Certainly down for the subs bench . sky sports .

Snook
30-09-2008, 18:20
Just watching sky sports news and it still says he is going to an unknown club after Barnsley turned down United bid.

alex3659
30-09-2008, 18:22
he's in the squad on sky sports scorecentre .
subs bench number twenty .

Snook
30-09-2008, 18:27
So he is!

I see Dyer has been dropped from the bench already!

Robbie Loving
30-09-2008, 18:28
On the Blades website, we have named an unchanged squad. Sorry ladies and gents.

swervin
30-09-2008, 18:31
its a mystery as toyah said

Snook
30-09-2008, 18:32
On the Blades website, we have named an unchanged squad. Sorry ladies and gents.

Yeah, I'm guessing it is a mistake on score centre. Like I said, on Sky sports news it keeps coming up that he is going to an unnamed club. It also just said on soccer special that it is an unchanged team.

Robbie Loving
30-09-2008, 18:33
Threads merged

alex3659
30-09-2008, 18:36
its a mystery as toyah said

do you mean mysthery .

swervin
30-09-2008, 18:40
yea i forgot she's got a lisp hee hee

alex3659
30-09-2008, 18:56
sky sports changed it to dyer now .

8balltiger
30-09-2008, 19:33
It's still a mystery club.

I think it's a hoax to squeeze out more cash

Earwiggo
30-09-2008, 19:38
Howard was named on the Utd bench for the team given to RS boys commentating at the Keepmoat, then they snatched the sheet back, and gave them another teamsheet with Howards name omitted.
I still feel the 'mythstery' club is Sheffield United.

Bladesman
30-09-2008, 21:27
Blackwell said on RS he has no idea.

Davey pretty much said the same thing aswell.

No ****** seems to know.

8balltiger
30-09-2008, 22:42
If Howard was named on the team sheet, then the loan must have gone through at the FA:huh:

Has the loan plug been pulled?

Did he get re-called from the loan?

Did the deal completely fall through?

I'm off to bed with a headache :help:

happyhippy
30-09-2008, 23:09
Howard was named on the Utd bench for the team given to RS boys commentating at the Keepmoat, then they snatched the sheet back, and gave them another teamsheet with Howards name omitted.
I still feel the 'mythstery' club is Sheffield United.

Depressingly, I couldn't get to Donny this evening, but I listened to 'Football Numpties' and the lead up to the match, and I can't help but think that United, Radio Sheffield or both, were being devillish.

According to Radio Sheffield, there was a team sheet which had Howard on it, but was quickly switched. Now just before, due to a few doomladen Chesterfield fans calling in calling for Richardson's head, Radio Sheffield had a quick mickey take saying Richardson had been sacked.

The Howard hoax came on just after that ......

CorkerSWFC
30-09-2008, 23:11
Mark my word Howard is signing for brum or Charlton clubs who have got plenty of assets and cash

canadablade
30-09-2008, 23:30
Mark my word Howard is signing for brum or Charlton clubs who have got plenty of assets and cash

We also have plenty of cash Corky and another 30 Million soon to follow.

You lot will have lots of cash July 1st ;)

Floridablade
01-10-2008, 02:20
Howard was on the bench on the BBC website then it was altered to Dyer

Earwiggo
01-10-2008, 08:25
The RS boys know Howard's signed for Utd. He was at the Hilton earlier in the evening with the rest of the herd. A caller saw him there, and so did the RS boys. Looks like a done deal to me.

swervin
01-10-2008, 08:31
still no wiser is there anyone who knows the facts please

Earwiggo
01-10-2008, 08:33
When Blackwell says nowt to the RS boys, and Simon Davey says nowt to the RS boys, that says it all.

Bladesman
01-10-2008, 10:11
Yeah if there are any delays at the moment its down to Barnsley messing around.

tosh13
01-10-2008, 11:23
Mark my word Howard is signing for brum or Charlton clubs who have got plenty of assets and cash

Brum & Charlton plenty of cash behave,the Brummy chairman has been trying to offload his club for years they have nothing & Charlton well less said.

Dimitri 11
01-10-2008, 15:16
After all the discusions about him in the last 48 hours this may teach a few people too keep quiet while the deal is done like we have been getting told all season.
Egg on faces big time this story.

He hasn't gone anywhere else yet so not really true. Your contradicting yourself by telling people to keep quiet and then launching this attack when everything is still up in the air.

I can't see him not coming to us tbh - even if we have to wait until next year to get him on a free. We can agree his contract in January and Barnsley will get a big fat 0. I can partly see why Barnsley are trying to get more money for him but in reality clubs should try to avoid upsetting other clubs - we are hardly likely to be helpful to Barnsley in the future after this (loan signings especially).

al_partridge
01-10-2008, 15:31
I can't see him not coming to us tbh - even if we have to wait until next year to get him on a free. We can agree his contract in January and Barnsley will get a big fat 0. .

Actually you can't. Players can only sign "Bosman" pre-contract arrangements with clubs from a different country from 1st January. I know Barnsley does seem like it's in a third world country but surprisingly it's not. You wouldn't be able to sign him on a Bosman until 1st July after his contract expires. Of course, you could still sign him in January for a cut-price fee, subject to the dingles' acceptance.

I think you'll sign him on loan pretty soon though and make it permanent in January, the current delay is just down to them playing silly beggars and trying to get more money out of you.

bladesufc1
01-10-2008, 16:13
INFO FOUND OUT!!

the original contract was agreed with no sell on fee. when the time came to sign in full, Barnsley wanted a sell on fee and this wasn't originally agreed, hence transfer failed

Bladesman
01-10-2008, 16:21
That was only verbally agreed without a sell on fee though?

igm1
01-10-2008, 16:25
INFO FOUND OUT!!

the original contract was agreed with no sell on fee. when the time came to sign in full, Barnsley wanted a sell on fee and this wasn't originally agreed, hence transfer failed

Gosh...that's a bit dodgy.

Maybe you should sue them at the end of the season if you don't get to the Prem.

Howard could have gotten you there single handed. ;)

Dimitri 11
01-10-2008, 16:25
Actually you can't. Players can only sign "Bosman" pre-contract arrangements with clubs from a different country from 1st January.

I stand corrected - I didn't realise that.

I know Barnsley does seem like it's in a third world country but surprisingly it's not. You wouldn't be able to sign him on a Bosman until 1st July after his contract expires. Of course, you could still sign him in January for a cut-price fee, subject to the dingles' acceptance.

Hopefully we will get him now as realistically we do need him. Personally I would pay a bit extra and remember this whole situation for a long time.

I think you'll sign him on loan pretty soon though and make it permanent in January, the current delay is just down to them playing silly beggars and trying to get more money out of you.

I think we'll get him soon as he wants to come to us and Barnsley aren't really in that great a bargaining position. I am not sure they can really afford to lose out on the cash.

Barnsley have made a mistake by upsetting Blackwell and Utd in general as well. We are unlikely to be overly accommodating should they wish to loan players from us - realistically Barnsley is a good place for any Utd loan players to go as they are usually a poorer side than us so the players have a high chance of being in the first team and they are local so the player wouldn't need to move house. I dont' know the full details of what has gone and we are not exactly going to do major damage to Barnsley over this but it is always better to stay on amicable terms with other clubs where possible.

bladesufc1
01-10-2008, 16:28
That was only verbally agreed without a sell on fee though?

just passing on info :thumbsup:

Dimitri 11
01-10-2008, 16:30
INFO FOUND OUT!!

the original contract was agreed with no sell on fee. when the time came to sign in full, Barnsley wanted a sell on fee and this wasn't originally agreed, hence transfer failed

Not really the way to do Business from Barnsley's end of things. Agree a deal, let the other party publicly announce it and then decide that you want to add something at the last minute.:thumbsup:

Of course we don't know for sure that Utd didn't say they would include a sell on fee and then change their minds. This is highly unlikely though and I can't see Blackwell announcing it to the world knowing that we were going to take such a risk.

happyhippy
01-10-2008, 17:06
To be honest, we shouldn't have released anything until the deal was absolutely sealed. We've made ourselves look a bit silly, even if it really is Barnsley being awkward buggers.

Oh well, let's see if tonight's "Football Numpties" can shed any more light on it all.

igm1
01-10-2008, 17:08
Makes a nice change from my team looking silly happy hippy :thumbsup:

happyhippy
01-10-2008, 17:10
Makes a nice change from my team looking silly happy hippy :thumbsup:

Not a word shall pass my lips :hihi:

alex3659
01-10-2008, 17:12
Gosh...that's a bit dodgy.

Maybe you should sue them at the end of the season if you don't get to the Prem.

Howard could have gotten you there single handed. ;)

better than club sueing supporters .

Earwiggo
01-10-2008, 17:50
Blackwell said on RS he has no idea.

Davey pretty much said the same thing aswell.

No ****** seems to know.

Both of 'em said the same the day before the game as well. They both know
what's happening, but toying with RS and both sets of supporters.
I think he's a new Blade.

Jazzybmzoo
01-10-2008, 18:04
As this gone through then or what?

Or has Howard come to his senses? Rather than filling up his senses with magnet, woodbines & chips.

& crack.

tosh13
02-10-2008, 11:41
According to some papers Howard has told Barnsley FC that he will go on strike if they do not allow him his move to SUFC,I don't agree with this as BFC are still paying his wages,remember Hoojidonk at Forest a total waste of space he was.

Robbie Loving
02-10-2008, 17:52
Announcement due at 7pm on RS

Snook
02-10-2008, 18:02
According to some papers Howard has told Barnsley FC that he will go on strike if they do not allow him his move to SUFC,I don't agree with this as BFC are still paying his wages,remember Hoojidonk at Forest a total waste of space he was.

Oh dear, sounds like just the sort of player we want!:suspect:

Bladesman
02-10-2008, 18:05
We have got him now!

Robbie Loving
02-10-2008, 18:08
Fantastic signing, let's hope we can stop bypassing the midfield now.

Ally68
02-10-2008, 18:10
Apparently they have agreed that Howard will not play against Barnsley in this loan period. Is that allowed? :huh:

Robbie Loving
02-10-2008, 18:22
Apparently they have agreed that Howard will not play against Barnsley in this loan period. Is that allowed? :huh:

In the loan period it is upto the parent club as to whether a player can against them or not.

In a sale, in the PL you can't have restrictions on a player playing against yourself.

However there is no such rules in the football league. So even if it was a sale, then Barnsley could insert that into the negotiations.

emellylil
02-10-2008, 19:05
as of seven oclock tonight howard has finaly singed the dotted line acording to the blades website

Rocklegend
02-10-2008, 19:22
This guy's gonna have a hell of a weight on his shoulders to deliver the goods.Hope some fans are patient.

bladebloke
02-10-2008, 19:26
In a sale, in the PL you can't have restrictions on a player playing against yourself.
however there is no such rules in the football league. So even if it was a sale, then Barnsley could insert that into the negotiations.


rob hulse anyone :mad:

sammsufc
02-10-2008, 20:27
NaNaNa NaNaNa NaNa Naa we got Brian Howard, Brian Howard, we've got Brian Howard!

Dimitri 11
02-10-2008, 20:36
This guy's gonna have a hell of a weight on his shoulders to deliver the goods.Hope some fans are patient.

The impatient fans will be screwing at half time on Sat. if he isn't playing well - the patient fans will wait until full time:)

Stockers
02-10-2008, 20:43
The impatient fans will be screwing at half time on Sat. if he isn't playing well - the patient fans will wait until full time:)

As long as he's not Monty i think he'll be given a chance.

Dimitri 11
02-10-2008, 20:55
As long as he's not Monty i think he'll be given a chance.

I was joking - I think he'll be given a good chance as well. He can't be as bad as Monty.

igm1
02-10-2008, 21:04
Pretty good signing for the Blades, for a decent price from what I've heard.

I have heard mixed things about him though, and I've only really seen him play in last years cup run.

Blades- reckon he'll solve your midfield problems?

Stockers
02-10-2008, 21:10
Pretty good signing for the Blades, for a decent price from what I've heard.

I have heard mixed things about him though, and I've only really seen him play in last years cup run.

Blades- reckon he'll solve your midfield problems?

I think he'll balance the midfield out a little, not sure if he's solely 'the answer' but i'm sure he'll be an improvement on what we already have.

Heyesey
02-10-2008, 21:13
as of seven oclock tonight howard has finaly singed the dotted line acording to the blades website

We gave him a contract and he set fire to it? :o

Bladesman
02-10-2008, 21:15
Pretty good signing for the Blades, for a decent price from what I've heard.

I have heard mixed things about him though, and I've only really seen him play in last years cup run.

Blades- reckon he'll solve your midfield problems?

Well he cant make it any worse. lol

Neither Tonge or Monty could shoot like Howard can. I mean Monty can just about pass let alone shoot!

m^rk
02-10-2008, 21:16
Great signing for 500k Especially as Brian Howard was being touted around last season for 3 to 4 Million!!!.

igm1
02-10-2008, 21:17
Great signing for 500k Especially as Brian Howard was being touted around last season for 3 to 4 Million!!!.

Paper talk pal, these are the same papers who were saying that Aston Villa were thinking of putting a 2-3 million bid in for Frankie Simek last January. When he was injured!

Stockers
02-10-2008, 22:09
I mean Monty can just about pass let alone shoot!

I think thats unfair, i saw Monty have a great 40yd shot v Derby the other week, then i realised it waas his first touch!! :hihi:

tosh13
02-10-2008, 23:12
We gave him a contract and he set fire to it? :o

Nice one Heyesey.

happyhippy
03-10-2008, 01:44
Pretty good signing for the Blades, for a decent price from what I've heard.

I have heard mixed things about him though, and I've only really seen him play in last years cup run.

Blades- reckon he'll solve your midfield problems?

Don't think he'll solve the problems as such, but he'll certainly give us a bit more variation. I just hope we haven't gone silly with his wages after the ridiculous amounts that the Dingles were talking about for his transfer earlier this season.

He's not necessarily a shoo-in for every match either, but I do think he's a very good signing for us.

jossyboy
03-10-2008, 06:09
sell on fee was included in the end

peterbld4
03-10-2008, 08:10
great player good buy for the blades
good look howard

blades 4 eva

scottf
03-10-2008, 08:18
i think its a START to solving the problem of our midfield- but he is no means the answer.

swervin
03-10-2008, 08:51
lets just give him a chance ,blackwell will have done his home work, he will know what howard will bring to the table.no need to get on the lads back just stick with him like he did with sharp .playing along side speed should help him along and when the fans get behind him his confidence will be sky high good signing imo

jossyboy
03-10-2008, 10:06
rob hulse anyone :mad:

he wasn't on loan,

edit

sorry just read the bit you quoted, blades missed a trick there didnt we?

BLADES-EELA
03-10-2008, 10:46
not really heard much about howard, just wondering if anione has any feedback on what type of player he is, and will he do it for the blades

scottf
03-10-2008, 10:49
if you look down the forum there are some comments on him there. :D

BLADES-EELA
03-10-2008, 10:55
cheers buddy

Robbie Loving
03-10-2008, 13:58
Threads merged

Floridablade
03-10-2008, 15:06
He will take a while to bed himself into the team, get to know others style of play etc. so give him a lot of support and don't expect any miracles. If you get on his back he'll lose confidence and end up on the bench like others I could name.

Robbie Loving
06-10-2008, 08:33
If his debut is anything to go by, we are in for big things this season.