Has anyone ever collected a "full" list of all the superlatives that the Sheffield Publicity people have put together to sell the city to tourists, investors and the world in general? If not, maybe this would be a good place to compile the definitive version? Here's a few to start you off:


Arts Tower - the tallest educational building in Europe
Sheffield - the fourth largest city in England
Sheffield - the fifth largest city in the UK
More parks per head of population than any other UK city
More trees per head of population than any other UK city
More National Park (i.e. the Peak District) within its boundary than any other city


And the other question - how many of them are true?!

1. Best city internet forum on the face of the planet?

2. Best drinking water of any English city

3. Most affluent constituency of any British city, including london. (Hallam constituency)

4. More Yemeni boxing stars per head of population than any other british city

5. More cutlery per head than any other british city

6. er..that's it

2. Best drinking water of any English city

Ill second you on that mate. It is very true. Its gorgeous stuff! :thumbsup:

Having lists like that on here is preaching to the converted!

What I want to know is WHY the council and tourist info. agencies and other relevant departments and organisations aren't doing more to advertise Sheffield nationally and internationally.

The city where football began.
The oldest football club in the world and the oldest ground in the world.
Why we have never exploited these facts I do not know.

Originally posted by alchresearch
Having lists like that on here is preaching to the converted!

What I want to know is WHY the council and tourist info. agencies and other relevant departments and organisations aren't doing more to advertise Sheffield nationally and internationally.

I get the impression that there are an awful lot of people from outside Sheffield looking in on this site. Maybe we should be shouting as well as the agencies?

is my tap linked up to barnsley or leeds then cus sumtimes its crap

Ummm the second oldest gay pub in England (Cossack).

Ok it's not that impressive but you've all had all the ideas already!

The one we were always bludgeoned over the head with at school (late seventies) was:

- The cleanest industrial city in Europe

This may well have been true at one time, around the time that clean air policies were a brand new innovation and everyone stopped burning coal fires, but these things become repeated ad nauseum for years even once all truth has drained away.

Originally posted by Phanerothyme


3. Most affluent constituency of any British city, including london. (Hallam constituency)


I thought Hallam was the second most affluent constituency after an area in Cheshire?

Correct - Hallam comes second to Tatton (formerly represented by Martin Bell MP) in the affluence stakes.

This is in a table of all UK constituencies that has been adjusted for cost of living so that places like Tatton (where most Man Utd mega millionaires live) and Hallam (where our football players are not paid quite so much) can beat ones in London and the South East.

Originally posted by MrHelicopter
I get the impression that there are an awful lot of people from outside Sheffield looking in on this site. Maybe we should be shouting as well as the agencies?

Definetly. but I am angry that we are making more of an effort than those paid to do so.

Originally posted by alchresearch
Definetly. but I am angry that we are making more of an effort than those paid to do so.

Good point and very true.

Originally posted by Dug
I thought Hallam was the second most affluent constituency after an area in Cheshire?

Heh, my memory isn't what it was. Stand corrected.

1.City of Sport - Although I am not sure why Manchester got the Commonwealth Games when we were supposed to be the "City of Sport"
2.Largest Artificial Ski centre in Europe
3.Best Theatre Complex outside of the West End
4.The Home of The World Snooker Championships
5. The Seven Hills of Sheffield, carved by the Six Rivers that powered the Wheels that Ground the Steel that made Sheffield famous.
6. Most under used City Airport in the World - Doh

Wincobank Hill - Sheffield is the only city in the world with an Iron Age fort (or its remains) within its boundaries

Originally posted by mikey
1.City of Sport - Although I am not sure why Manchester got the Commonwealth Games when we were supposed to be the "City of Sport"


Probably because of all the failed attempts to get the Olympics, they were offered it out of sympathy.

But, good point. Why was Sheffield not offered the chance to host the olympics? London doesn't have a cat in hell's chance, especially when it has yet to build the facillities.

I think we mentioned in an older thread about bidding as the North of England. Manchester and Sheffield have outstanding sports facillities, not to mention better transport links, scenery and, above all, people!

One of only three cities in Europe to be built on 7 hills (apparently - someone told me this morning at work)

Originally posted by Hodge
One of only three cities in Europe to be built on 7 hills (apparently - someone told me this morning at work)

One of the others is Rome

Originally posted by mikey
1.City of Sport - Although I am not sure why Manchester got the Commonwealth Games when we were supposed to be the "City of Sport"

If I remember correctly, Sheffield did bid for the games, but pulled out right at the last minute (concerns over finances I think - they literally pulled out on the day the decision was being made) and thus was not available to be chosen in any case.

If I've got any of these points wrong, I stand to be corrected.

Originally posted by mikey

2.Largest Artificial Ski centre in Europe


Where is the ski center?
:confused: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Bookey
Where is the ski center?
:confused: :rolleyes:
Here: Sheffield Ski Village (http://www.sheffieldskivillage.co.uk/)

Originally posted by mikey

5. The Seven Hills of Sheffield, carved by the Six Rivers that powered the Wheels that Ground the Steel that made Sheffield famous.


...SIX rivers eh? Care to name them....

http://www.tilthammer.com/water/

Nomme

I think they are missing out the river Rother.

Best classic rock bar

Originally posted by Phanerothyme
I think they are missing out the river Rother.

Oh right... these guys obviously overlooked it when they formed 'The FIVE Rivers Network.' http://www.tilthammer.com/5rn/index.html

Well spotted Phan' - perhaps you'd like to inform Sheffield Industrial Museums Trust. Boy - have they got egg on their faces!

:P

Nomme

Originally posted by Abby
One of the others is Rome
& the other other is Barcelona - not bad company

Originally posted by commie pig
& the other other is Barcelona - not bad company

Yep. I bet Rome and Barcelona are well chuffed. ;)

Originally posted by nommedenet
Oh right... these guys obviously overlooked it when they formed 'The FIVE Rivers Network.' http://www.tilthammer.com/5rn/index.html

Well spotted Phan' - perhaps you'd like to inform Sheffield Industrial Museums Trust. Boy - have they got egg on their faces!

:P

Nomme

Does the Rother flow IN Sheffield? It makes up the border between Sheffield and Rotherham.

The highest industrial city in Europe (546m at Margery Hill).

The highest number of personalised number plates in Britain (lets keep this quiet eh?)

More cinema seats per head of population than any other UK city.

Parkhill is the largest listed building in Europe. Ahem. Don't shoot the messenger eh?

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by SheffieldSean
The highest number of personalised number plates in Britain (lets keep this quiet eh?)

Parkhill is the largest listed building in Europe. Ahem. Don't shoot the messenger eh?

:rolleyes:

And it was all going so well up til then :rolleyes:

I'm afraid we should add The only major city not connected to the capital by an electrified railway line

Did anyone mention parks and green spaces? Isnt Sheffield famous for having lots of that

We only have one tory councillor. It may not be perfect but we're getting there.

Originally posted by nommedenet
Oh right... these guys obviously overlooked it when they formed 'The FIVE Rivers Network.' http://www.tilthammer.com/5rn/index.html

Well spotted Phan' - perhaps you'd like to inform Sheffield Industrial Museums Trust. Boy - have they got egg on their faces!

:P

Nomme
It strikes me that to have seven hills carved by rivers, you need 6 rivers.

With 6 rivers you get 7 hills.
With 5 rivers you get 6 hills.
With 4 rivers you get 5 hills.
With 3 rivers you get 4 hills.
With 2 rivers you get 3 hills.
With 1 river you get 2 hills.

makes sense to me.

Not if they form a circle. Then you can alternate river/hill and end up with equal numbers of each.

Err.. I dont think that you need ANY rivers do you? Anyway, the River Don goes right through 2 valleys, so wouldnt that help your theory?

Don
Sheaf
Porter

Which are the other 2?

Which comes first, the river or the hill? Any geologists out there?

The hill. Usually.

But the pattern of rivers in Sheffield is more compllicated than "X rivers" - it always is.

Rother doesn't count. It's a different basin altogether, only joining the Don up at Rotherham. The "seven hills" are the hills between, effectively, the tributaries of the Don. Sheffield itself is based on the confluence of these rivers with the Don.

So. R=River, H=Hill. There's the Sheaf(R1), then the hill with Ringinglow on it(H1). Then the Porter Brook(R2), then Fulwood and Walkley (H2). Then there's the Rivelin (R3), then Stannington (H3). Then the Loxley (R4) and Hillsborough (H4). Next comes the Don (R5) and Parson Cross/Firth Park/Wincobank(H5). Then it's the Don again, then another hill - the one with Manor Top at the top (H6). We have a small river from there - the Meersbrook (R6), then the last hill - with Norton, round Greenhill and to Abbeydale (H7), and we're back at the Sheaf.

Only makes six rivers, unless you cheat and consider the Don before and after the city centre to be different rivers. Or unless you include the Rother, which is not actually really part of the Hill/River circle.

According to one of Sheffield's councillors, Sheffield has the most farm's within it's boundaries than any other UK city.

While I was trying to check this out I found this very interesting site about Sheffield, which contains more suplatives about Sheffield, especially in regard to green spaces.

http://www.map21ltd.com/COSTC11/sheffield-case.htm

Nomme

Sheffield: Home of Bramall Lane

Oldest major football ground in The World.

Sheffield: Home of Sheffield United

Sheffield United Cricket Club founded January 30th 1854. First sporting club in The World to term itself 'United' and use this as the official club suffix.

Football section added Friday 22nd March 1889. Sheffield United Cricket and Football Club become the first association football club in The World to term itself 'United' and use this as the official club suffix.

Poor old Meersbrook always gets left out...

Originally posted by jonathand
Poor old Meersbrook always gets left out...


Best sledging park in the country

Hows that for you?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Escafeld1889
[B]Sheffield: Home of Bramall Lane

Oldest major football ground in The World.

Sheffield: Home of Sheffield United

Are these supposed to be assets?

One of only three cities in Europe to be built on 7 hills (apparently - someone told me this morning at work)

Sorry - but Bath is built on 7 hills.

Also, if Sheffield has the oldest football club in the world, who did they play?

Originally posted by Jim

Also, if Sheffield has the oldest football club in the world, who did they play?


The 2nd oldest football club in the world.

Nomme

Originally posted by nomme
The 2nd oldest football club in the world.

Nomme

Out of curiosity, does anyone know who are the 2nd oldest football club?

According to the council's list of Sheffield related facts: Sheffield Football Club is the oldest football club in the world - traditional rivals Hallam FC has the oldest football ground.

http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/facts--figures

Originally posted by rickmiles85
Out of curiosity, does anyone know who are the 2nd oldest football club?

Probably another Sheffield team according to this :
http://www.about-soccer.com/soccer-history.shtml
"The first football clubs were established in Sheffield in 1857, and soon they had enough to establish their own Football Association in 1867. Sheffield FA played London FA in 1861, one of the first regional matches."

To answer the origianal question of who did they play - they played amongst themselves and other local mens organisations. It says so here:
http://www.innotts.co.uk/soccer/hist1.htm

Nomme

Originally posted by max
Which comes first, the river or the hill? Any geologists out there?

Actually the rivers wouldn't have made the hills, this far north in England. They're glacial features and would have been slowly eroded over 10,000 years by lots of very heavy ice. The rivers would have arrived afterwards and "polished" the hills into the shape we have now, whilst most of the river bed would have been formed with "meltwater" when the glaciers melted...
:thumbsup:

Just found this thread linked from somewhere else, I must say all very impressive. I think there should be some proper promotion of Sheffield done as outside of the city it doesn't have a great reputation. Well behind most other major cities. Now I have lived here for a bit my opinion has completely changed. It is a great place.

Originally posted by mikey
Best sledging park in the country

Hows that for you?

I'd have to wholeheartedly agree with you there!!!

Originally posted by Tony
Err.. I dont think that you need ANY rivers do you? Anyway, the River Don goes right through 2 valleys, so wouldnt that help your theory?

Don
Sheaf
Porter

Which are the other 2?

The River Rivelin and the River Loxley I think....

Originally posted by Jim
Sorry - but Bath is built on 7 hills.

Also, if Sheffield has the oldest football club in the world, who did they play? Not hills in Bath mate more like lumps, Kylies nipples are bigger than your southern crap hills