I work from home and we also have young kids and a baby. When you guys go by with your volume and bass turned up my windows start to rattle and I loose concentration when you're about 100 yds away and you're going slowly because of the speed ramps. In the evenings the kids are often disturbed by it. It's REALLY frustrating guys so come on, please turn it down.

There should be a law limiting the output of these things - on the grounds that it's impossible to hear emergency vehicles coming when your eardrums are bleeding :mad:

i dont mind if theyre groovy tunes, but bang bang bang is very annoying

I think you need new windows! I used to live right next to a busy train line and didnt have problems like that!

I doubt the offenders are reading this anway, or would listen even if they were. Just be happy they'll deaf in a few years, they have no taste in music (usually), aspire to be a chav rather than not to be, and that the speed bumps you mention are probably destroying their expensive exhaust system:hihi:

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
i dont mind if theyre groovy tunes, but bang bang bang is very annoying

I don't think those with stereos they can't turn down when outside a house play groovy tunes. They only have bang bang bang tunes near us.

We find the bang bang bang tunes can only be played by baseball cap wearers with exhausts on their cars that appear to be too large.

Originally posted by floyd77
I think you need new windows! I used to live right next to a busy train line and didnt have problems like that!

:hihi:

I agree but I don't think Aaarrrggghhh lives in a particularly pleasant area of Sheffield!!

I actually LIKE hearing music coming from peoples cars...it is a sign of summertime.....so many people have air conditioning you don't always hear it anyways as they've all got their windows up!!

Try getting a job that takes you out of the house I would imagine the bigger distraction is probably from all them young kids crawling all over you......
:hihi:

(edit...please read the whole of this thread before assuming I am a bitch....this forum user was 'very' unpleasant to me on a recent thread....I am merely having a jibe back...and yes as you can see they bit hook, line and sinker....:hihi: )

What a load of crap - I usually ignore nonsense but have you got a brain?

I live in a 'NICE' area of Sheffield, yes.

I actually am a musician - what I hear is not music, just the ensuing vibrations it creates.

I have my own office and the children never bother me when I'm working.

The original post is a request, not for discussion with those it doesn't concern. Why oh why do so many idiots love to see a few pathetic words they've typed, just clouding the issue? No, don't answer that.

I think it's hilarious to see these silly cars with blacked out windows blasting music with a little boy with sunglasses and arm leaning out of window trying to look cool with a gigantic shelf stuck on back of car.

Many a time a have wanted to place a clock and a couple of candlesticks on those silly spoilers, they look ridiculous! :loopy:

I like my music, and I like it loud.

Doesn't affect me noticing emergency vehicles before most other drivers.. but that's because I'm a good driver.

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
What a load of crap - I usually ignore nonsense but have you got a brain?

I live in a 'NICE' area of Sheffield, yes.

I actually am a musician - what I hear is not music, just the ensuing vibrations it creates.

I have my own office and the children never bother me when I'm working.

The original post is a request, not for discussion with those it doesn't concern. Why oh why do so many idiots love to see a few pathetic words they've typed, just clouding the issue? No, don't answer that.

Why did you bother posting on a forum then...under general chit chat....and not expect a discussion...!! If it is a request...identify the car responsible...the street you live on...how else are the guys responsible for this disturbance gonna deal with your request???? :hihi:

What did you expect...the guilty parties to log on...identify themselves and say 'guilty as charged I won't do it again..in future my music will be turned down!! :hihi:

Yes my brain does seem to be in gear...unlike yours!! :P

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
Why oh why do so many idiots love to see a few pathetic words they've typed, just clouding the issue? No, don't answer that.

Oh dear! Looks like that noise is really getting to you. Deep breaths sweetie, breathe!

Oh dear, youngsters trying to think again...

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
What a load of crap - I usually ignore nonsense but have you got a brain?

I live in a 'NICE' area of Sheffield, yes.

I actually am a musician - what I hear is not music, just the ensuing vibrations it creates.

I have my own office and the children never bother me when I'm working.

The original post is a request, not for discussion with those it doesn't concern. Why oh why do so many idiots love to see a few pathetic words they've typed, just clouding the issue? No, don't answer that.

Ditto to what Sheish said (just to see my own words you understand;) )

Chit chat means arguing with anyone you feel like? You're like that in your 'real life' as well then...;)

The perportrator may hear my voice directly or otherwise, thats the point.

Sarcasm, clouding the issue.. sending private messages, doesn't help and is all rather childish, but, yes typical of the general city-forum user.

Muppet...hmmm!

So, to repeat my post:

I work from home and we also have young kids and a baby. When you guys go by with your volume and bass turned up my windows start to rattle and I loose concentration when you're about 100 yds away and you're going slowly because of the speed ramps. In the evenings the kids are often disturbed by it. It's REALLY frustrating guys so come on, please turn it down.

(Sorry to any reasonable people who may be confused by the excitement my post seems to have caused.)

I don't mind music coming from cars, but when they're sitting right outside your house it is really annoying, unnecessary, and selfish and does not make you look cool. I like loud music when I'm driving, but I'll turn it down if I'm in a built up area or in slow moving traffic.

oh er (lifts handbag to chest...hee hee hee) I am not arguing with anyone......nor am I being childish!

As per quotes from other forumers here.....deep breaths....!!

I think you need to get yer coat pal....You are indeed...as we all are 'City Forum Users'!!!



:wave:

Blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah. Blah!

Give it up - It was a stupid idea in the first place, who posts in a discussion forum, then gets upset when it gets discussed?:loopy:

When you guys go by with your volume ..... Who exactly are you talking to?

Get some new windows you Mentalist.

There - think I've covered all the bases of a typical forum user - except sarcasm......oh, wait....there it is:D

MOD: Can you keep to discussing the topic & stop the personal jibes please.

Why oh why do so many idiots love to see a few pathetic words they've typed


So, to repeat my post:

Hmmmm......Pot, kettle, black.......

But i just spent £300 on a new sub:confused:

Never mind Scott 99% of folk won't mind the noise of music coming from your car :thumbsup:

:hihi:

Up the blades :thumbsup:

Update for the perpetrators, the remedial class and those that seem to support anti social behaviour.

It is also illegal.

Mod?

ttfn

(untypical forum user) :thumbsup:

I think that sitting outside someones house with music on really loud is the same as living nextdoor to them and having the sereo on really loud. Not a real problem in the daytime, but at 4am it's pain in the ar*e

i understand where arrrghh is coming from

I play my music loud, but if im going to be going past residential areas where i will be going slow or stationary, i will turn it down. And i pesonally always know if an emergency vehicle is coming same as tghe next man wether my music is up high or not.

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh
Update for the perpetrators, the remedial class and those that seem to support anti social behaviour.

It is also illegal.

Mod?

ttfn

(untypical forum user) :thumbsup:

Oh goody....he/she's gone then:wave:

About time too!!

& then shouting for a Mod...?? Aaarrrggghhh is a hypocrit for those who don't know this person posted some rather nasty unprovoked comments on a thread of mine some weeks ago...(deleted by Mods)... so in my view the words Remedial....Anti-Social and untypical can only describe one thing...THEM!!

:D

Originally posted by Aaarrrggghhh

It is also illegal.

I'm not particularly picking holes in your argument, but did want to point out that it's not illegal. The police have no interest in noise complaints - you need the Environmental Health, and even then, if it's no one particular person causing you the problems, they're going to be struggling to do their thing and confescate equipment etc.

Just so you don't get disappointed when the police don't help you.

Do you have double glazing? I'm not being as sarky as it looks written down, but it might help with all sorts of noises? Sorry if you've already answered this one before.

Originally posted by NatalieSheff
i dont mind if theyre groovy tunes, but bang bang bang is very annoying
Ahh, but one persons 'groovy tunes' is another persons 'bang bang' ;)

Dear aaarrrggghh,

posting a thread and then saying it's only for those concerned? Perhaps you should have been a little clearer in your thread and addressed it specifically to the people who drive past your house (you'd need to detail your address to be sure only those concerned responded).

And referring to the typical city-forum user as childish isn't going to help you win friends and influence people is it? As a musician, you may appreciate some of these 'childish' people attending gigs etc?

For the benefit of sticking to the 'thread' I too find excessive thud, thud, thud, thud, mildly annoying. Music I don't mind. And as Shiesh said, it's one of the signs of summer, music playing and windows open (in cars as well as houses) along with lawnmowers etc. Sometimes the noise of a lawnmower when i'm in bed trying to sleep isn't ideal - I pop in my earplugs and hey presto!

Just out of interest, why DO they listen to it that loud and with the windows OPEN????? What's that all about?


Shut your windows and keep your din in!

I love this forum - I think it's a really friendly place, but I have to say, this thread has really disappointed me!

There were some really awful things said and I can understand where Arrgghh was originally coming from.
And I can also say that I may have posted something similar without expecting it to be discussed. I think all they wanted was for anyone to look at it to take note in case people weren't being malicious, just ignorant.

I was disappointed to see the jibes on this thread, and Shiesh, I don't think they were calling for a mod, I think they wanted to know what the message beginning 'mod' from the moderator meant.

I have to agree, I hate it when people drive by residential areas with their music blaring out and it does concern me with the whole emergency vehicle thing as sometimes if I've got my windows up and music on not all that loud I don't notice at first. if it was any louder i don't think I'd hear it.

I'm not sure what went on between you and Aarrrgghh on your thread Shiesh, seeing as you said it had been deleted by mods but still, two wrongs don't make a right do they?

I'm not completely backing Aarrgghh up though, as 'the typical city-forum user' isn't the best thing to say on a city forum, especially one of which you're a member, but perhaps ppl ought 2 just cut them some slack!

Lottie

when we are in the car we make sure the volume is as loud as possible when driving past a church while listening to slayer.

just to let them know the score
(not a christian as you can guess).

PS im a musician and i can still concentrate on my own music while there is a car outside with its stereo on, just dont concentrate on it as much. that wasnt meant as sarcastic by the way, helpful advice. jsut try to learn to blot it out, trn your insrtrument up.

when we are in the car we make sure the volume is as loud as possible when driving past a church while listening to slayer.

What on Earth do you get out of that??

Originally posted by Lotti
I'm not sure what went on between you and Aarrrgghh on your thread Shiesh, seeing as you said it had been deleted by mods but still, two wrongs don't make a right do they?



Nothing I have posted on here today has been deleted therefore I have done nothing wrong whatsoever.....I am enjoying how this forum member clearly gets rattled at the mildest of jibes....very differant to the extremely 'nasty' references made in the original posting that so obviously 'marked his card' with me!!!

I don't have anything other than a 'fun loving' reputation on this forum and this hyprocrit won't change my style on any other thread....I am merely enjoying stomping on his a little and getting away with it longer than he did because I have chosen not to swear or make nasty references to ones lifestyle!!


:banana:

Originally posted by Lotti
What on Earth do you get out of that??

youd have to be there, its kinda a long running joke, nevermind

funny but true story. i was waiting to cross the road at a set of traffic lights and a group of lads pulled up in a kitted out car, spoilers and everything, with their stereo pumping out to some random tune which was obviously on the radio because it finshed while they were still waiting there and turned onto "Everytime" by Britney Spears! they just sat there trying to look cool and then sped off when the lights changed for them.

Mod Note: Back to topic please guys. Sian posted a warning on this thread some considerable time ago asking for a return to topic. We don't appreciate Mod notes being ignored. Those concerned, please consider yourselves warned.

back on topic with a tit-for-tat story to cheer you all up.

My big brother particularly hates the chavvy bangbangblarymusic wallahs too.

A couple of years ago he had to get a hire car for a fortnight & the one he got came with a particularly chavvy bangbang stereo!

So, as much as possible he drove round the chavvy end of the village earlydoors every morning when the chavvs were sleepytired blaring out Classical Music & Opera :hihi: :clap: :clap:

You should have seen the looks!


Ahhh, such fun. :D

ahh that is cool story....can just see the curtain twitchers now at the 1812 overture blasts into their living room and interrupts their episode of Wife Swap ...:hihi:

The people who drive around with music so loud that all you can hear is "thud, thud, thud" are invariably what people call "chavs" and have silly looking modified cars. When the volume is that loud, the music ceases to be music and just becomes a string of thuds, so I don't understand what the driver gets out of it. If they think we can all hear which fashionable/"happening" tunes they're listening to, we can't - we can only hear thuds.

When these drivers with open windows and blaring loud music pass us by, my partner always exclaims 'Oh look - a stereo with wheels attached'! :nod: :heyhey:

Just realised that Aaarrrggghhh has indeed gone! Bit of a silly post really if he thought by starting this thread he was actually going to address the culprits. It's a discussion forum after all.

lol, also why take up all the valuble space in the boot of your Nissan Micra/Fiat Ciqento/Metro, it means you cant do the shopping!!

We have gangbangers blasting deep bass at 1 or 2 am every other night trying to impress a girl who lives at the end of the street. I have to get up at 6 am and this kind of garbage really ticks me off. I have had to call the police on numerous occasions to make them stop. On the weekends they just come back an hour later.

I have thought about getting a parabolic dish and an amplifier to serve them back their own noise. Perhaps, even blast out their car windows in the process. (One could only hope.) However, I am concerned that it might not work and would create more problems...


:suspect:

GOD DAMN IT!!! What am i going to do with my £1500 i just spent on my car sound system...

I have just spent all that money, only to be told i aint allow my music on loud.. Im sorry its my god damn car and ill do what i like it in. (You should be lucky i turn my music down when on a an housing state and when passed 10pm at night....)

What more do you people want!!!

I like driving with the window open and my music on loud - usually Nickleback or Rasmus or some 60's stuff; and never think about turning down the volume when in resedential areas, or most of the time I would not bother having the stereo on. It takes me a seconds to pass a person's home and they may get a seconds worth of noise from my stereo, and then it's gone.
I would never dream of having my music played loud when parked outside someone's home. Very inconsiderate as they may have babies that are trying to sleep, or it may interfere with the episode of eastenders.

Perhaps they turn it up to counteract the music you have blaring out.

Update for the perpetrators, the remedial class and those that seem to support anti social behaviour.

It is also illegal.

Mod?

ttfn

(untypical forum user) :thumbsup:

Anti-social behaviour is not illegal, hence ASBOs existing. ;)

I like driving with the window open and my music on loud - usually Nickleback or Rasmus or some 60's stuffThat grey ponytailed old guy driving along Woodseats in slow traffic, wasn't you, was it? Top down, Brown Sugar blasting out ... look at ME, look at MEEEEE! you know ;) Babies crying, little children covering their ears, the old biddies kissing their teeth...

Kid crossing the road goes, "Turn it down, you silly old ******!" Old biddies nearly collapse, cackling. :D

That grey ponytailed old guy driving along Woodseats last summer, wasn't you, was it? Top down, Brown Sugar blasting out ... look at ME, look at MEEEEE! you know ;) Babies crying, little children covering their ears, the old biddies going kissing their teeth...

Kid crossing the road goes, "Turn it down, you silly old ******!" Old biddies nearly collapse, cackling. :D

Top down? Not likely. I drive a Mondeo. And old men with ponytails ... well .. er ... NO!
I listen to music loud because I like it - not for attention seeking. If I wanted that I would drive along with my pants round my ankles and my rear end stuck out the window. :hihi:

Top down? Not likely. I drive a Mondeo. And old men with ponytails ... well .. er ... NO!
I listen to music loud because I like it - not for attention seeking. If I wanted that I would drive along with my pants round my ankles and my rear end stuck out the window. :hihi:OMG! a Mondeo, that's even worse! :hihi:

If you're playing loud music and have the nearside window wide open, you're only doing it in a desperate bid for attention ... that's what everyone thinks:)

OMG! a Mondeo, that's even worse! :hihi:

If you're playing loud music and have the nearside window wide open, you're only doing it in a desperate bid for attention ... that's what everyone thinks:)

Can you imagine any person driving a Mondeo seeking to draw attention to himself? Seriously? It's not only a Mondeo but a diesel. Does 0 - 10mph in abuot 40 minutes. No snazzy racing stripes or gleaming chrome exhausts. Not even fluffy dice in the window or a flag of saint George displayed for all to see.

Yep - I must definitely be seeking attention. Quite unlike someone with a 4x4 who travels a maximum speed of 20mph regardless of the tailback he or generally she is causing.

Do you know how to get attention Ruby? Perhaps not eh? :hihi:

Can you imagine any person driving a Mondeo seeking to draw attention to himself? Seriously? Do you know how to get attention Ruby? Perhaps not eh? :hihi:Well, not by driving about acting the goat, certainly. :)

No-one pays any attention to us old people .. we just lurk in the shadows, living on past glories and quietly getting away with murder ;)

as much as people seem to be taking the OP as an affront to their civil liberties, purporting that 'it's a free country' etc, would this come more under it being a case of respect, innit?

Well, not by driving about acting the goat, certainly. :)

No-one pays any attention to us old people .. we just lurk in the shadows, living on past glories and quietly getting away with murder ;)

Listening to loud music is acting the goat? :loopy:

Well, not by driving about acting the goat, certainly. :)

No-one pays any attention to us old people .. we just lurk in the shadows, living on past glories and quietly getting away with murder ;)

Since when has listening to music being acting the goat? Maybe you're the one with the issue if you think everyone who drives passed you with music on and a window open is wanting to impress you!

Since when has listening to music being acting the goat? Maybe you're the one with the issue if you think everyone who drives passed you with music on and a window open is wanting to impress you!When did the topic change to 'listening to music"? :confused: :suspect: Are you on the wrong thread? :huh:

People who drive along with open nearside windows forcing their choice of music on everyone within earshot aren't wanting to impress anyone, obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be such prats, would they? They're just desperate for attention, they don't care whether it's good or bad. That's an opinion that's shared by many people. Except the ones doing it, I imagine :)

We have gangbangers blasting deep bass at 1 or 2 am every other night trying to impress a girl who lives at the end of the street.

The bass that I've heard is not really true bass but distorted, "false bass" coupled with numerous resonances from the cars bodywork. The dimensions of a car interior are too small to allow the reproduction of very low audio frquencies. It certainly isn't High Fidelity.

When did the topic change to 'listening to music"? :confused: :suspect: Are you on the wrong thread? :huh:

People who drive along with open nearside windows forcing their choice of music on everyone within earshot aren't wanting to impress anyone, obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be such prats, would they? They're just desperate for attention, they don't care whether it's good or bad. That's an opinion that's shared by many people. Except the ones doing it, I imagine :)

What about driver's side window? Is it acceptable for that to be open whilst listening to music - or in your warped world are those drivers still desperate for attention?
By the way - I leave my music on loud when I am not in built up areas - so I must want the attention of the deaf bunnies or the trees or something according to your psychological evaluation.

Anyhow - nothing stopping you switching off your hearing aid. :hihi:

The louder the better...u should have better double glazing ;)

The louder the better...u should have better double glazing ;)I sometimes feel as though the Grumpy Old Men could get an entire series just out of the morons that inhabit the SF threads :hihi:

I can accept the little boy chavs with their hoodies and their modded rustbuckets trying to look hard and shifty and blasting the street out. But the men, you really ought to have grown out of it by your mid twenties! :hihi:

I sometimes feel as though the Grumpy Old Men could get an entire series just out of the morons that inhabit the SF threads :hihi:

I can accept the little boy chavs with their hoodies and their modded rustbuckets trying to look hard and shifty and blasting the street out. But the men, you really ought to have grown out of it by your mid twenties! :hihi:

I do not think you should label yourself a moron, Ruby. We don't think that about you.

And those men who have grown out of what? It is always pleasing to hear beethoven, mozart and Tchaikovsky at colume rather than so quite you can hear a pin drop. You do not go to a music hall to listen to music with earplugs in do you?

Is it just the fact that the tastes of those men sat in their cars listening to their loud music is different to your tastes - so there must be something wrong with them?

I used to live in London and every BMW driver was out to impress. It is much less of a problem up here but I notice a few people parked up or sat in traffic It annoys the hell out of me and infringes my civil liberties. It's a sign of personal gratification over the common good.

approaches Aaarrrggghhh's home

boomboomboomboomboomboomboom :hihi:

I used to live in London and every BMW driver was out to impress. It is much less of a problem up here but I notice a few people parked up or sat in traffic It annoys the hell out of me and infringes my civil liberties. It's a sign of personal gratification over the common good.

I was writing a reply and spotted your last line. In a nutshell. :thumbsup:

DragonAnna, may I refer you to Bloomdido's post above. :)

*Throws a stinger under Mamalocha's car and takes a sledge to the radio*

*wonders if DragonAnna is any relation to Tia-Anna :P :hihi: :help:

DragonAnna, may I refer you to Bloomdido's post above. :)

*Throws a stinger under Mamalocha's car and takes a sledge to the radio*

*wonders if DragonAnna is any relation to Tia-Anna :P :hihi: :help:

I've Joaquín Rodrigo - Concierto de Aranjuez in my car which isn't your modern sh*te. ;)

I've Joaquín Rodrigo - Concierto de Aranjuez in my car which isn't your modern sh*te. ;)You antisocial people, you just don't get it, do you? Who cares what you're playing ... it's the sheer volume and the fact that it actually vibrates your skeleton as the vehicle lumbers past.

When I'm walking along doing my shopping or I'm at work, I don't want my eardrums shattered or the effect of being at a rave or in a club ... just grow up, you tart! :D

You antisocial people, you just don't get it, do you? Who cares what you're playing ... it's the sheer volume and the fact that it actually vibrates your skeleton as the vehicle lumbers past.

When I'm walking along doing my shopping or I'm at work, I don't want my eardrums shattered or the effect of being at a rave or in a club ... just grow up, you tart! :D

my deck has been nicked

You antisocial people, you just don't get it, do you? Who cares what you're playing ... it's the sheer volume and the fact that it actually vibrates your skeleton as the vehicle lumbers past.

When I'm walking along doing my shopping or I'm at work, I don't want my eardrums shattered or the effect of being at a rave or in a club ... just grow up, you tart! :D

Aye well - like I said - turn off your hearing aid.
There are many worse things than a few seconds of loud music, and if you have nothing better to make a fuss about then good for you.

I shall continue to listen to my music as loud as I want in my car, regardless of how much it upsets you - for all of a couple of seconds of your life.

We have a pub that plays loud music on saturday nights and neighbours that sometimes play loud music and party. I love it, makes me wanna party myself.

Aye well - like I said - turn off your hearing aid.
There are many worse things than a few seconds of loud music, and if you have nothing better to make a fuss about then good for you.

I shall continue to listen to my music as loud as I want in my car, regardless of how much it upsets you - for all of a couple of seconds of your life.

Can we presume then that you wouldn't mind your neighbours playing their music as loudly as they wanted in their home or garden? As its their home should they be able to do exactly as they want - regardless of how much it upsets you? Or would you make a fuss about it. ;)

Can we presume then that you wouldn't mind your neighbours playing their music as loudly as they wanted in their home or garden? As its their home should they be able to do exactly as they want - regardless of how much it upsets you? Or would you make a fuss about it. ;)

Am I to assume that you cannot tell the difference between continuous loud music being played all hours of the day and night, and a two or three second duration as a car passes you with the stereo on loud?
There is a big difference, and I have already stated that I would not keep my car stereo playing loudly if I was parked up in a resedential area.
When I drive past you, you may be subjected to my loud music for a few seconds, and this is hardly to be compared with noisy neighbours who have their home stereos blaring out until 3 or 4am.

If you cannot see the difference then what more can be said?

Am I to assume that you cannot tell the difference between continuous loud music being played all hours of the day and night, and a two or three second duration as a car passes you with the stereo on loud?
There is a big difference, and I have already stated that I would not keep my car stereo playing loudly if I was parked up in a resedential area.
When I drive past you, you may be subjected to my loud music for a few seconds, and this is hardly to be compared with noisy neighbours who have their home stereos blaring out until 3 or 4am.

If you cannot see the difference then what more can be said?

When teaching my children whether or not their behaviour was acceptable, I always asked them to consider if what they did would feel acceptable if everyone did it. They may have felt it didn't hurt anyone if they picked one bluebell, but if everyone did it the woods would be bare and bluebells would become extinct. In the same way, if everyone played loud music from their cars then it would be a continuous noise and clearly unacceptable. I think that if behaviour is unacceptable if everyone did it, then it is unacceptable for one to do it. You have no idea how many other people doing the same are also passing the same house, it could be every few minutes and a real disturbance to their lives.

Actually this is the shop, hennypenny and the effect is similar to what you mention, every minute or two someone like dragonanna or mamalocha passes by the open door, crawling in slow traffic. I'm really channelling the customers, as I get the grumbles about it from them. Almost everyone hates it, these drivers must love getting the daggers, is all I can say. Maybe they interpret it as admiration ;)

It's one of the little things that makes suburban shopping centres uncomfortable, the cumulation of acts, small and petty individually (rather like the perpetrators) but cumulatively it can make for a bad shopping experience.

It's quite surprising to find just how many narcissistic, selfish people there are around, only pleasing themselves and making everyone else's life a misery, and actually glorying in their discourtesy and intending to keep on doing it. Our old cleaner used to call them "The Great I Am" :hihi:

I actually am a musician .


Perhaps you should send me a copy of some of your creations to play in the car, im sure you wouldnt mind me playing that at full volume! (not that i ever do on account of me being such a good girl)

Im sure when you play at some giggs close neighbours to the venue etc get a bit fuffed off with hearing your stuff at full bumf....karma perhaps?? :D:D:D

When teaching my children whether or not their behaviour was acceptable, I always asked them to consider if what they did would feel acceptable if everyone did it. They may have felt it didn't hurt anyone if they picked one bluebell, but if everyone did it the woods would be bare and bluebells would become extinct. In the same way, if everyone played loud music from their cars then it would be a continuous noise and clearly unacceptable. I think that if behaviour is unacceptable if everyone did it, then it is unacceptable for one to do it. You have no idea how many other people doing the same are also passing the same house, it could be every few minutes and a real disturbance to their lives.

If everyone played their music loud in their cars then no - it would not bother me. A car passes my house every few minutes and for a couple of seconds I am subjected to loud music and then nothing - no problem.
If we move the goal posts a little and say loud music after a certain time - from anywhere - then maybe I would have a problems with it. No-one likes to be woken up at 2am because someone is parked outside their home playing loud music.
But I have had neighbours who enjoy the occassional party and have their music on so loud I have to go to a neighbouring city to be out of earshot of it. Hey ho! Not a problem.

When my kids were only a couple of years old and still had their afternoon nap then it was somewhat disruptive for neighbours to have their music on loud, but there is no law against it, and for an occassional event it's not a problem.

I do not drive in my car 24/7 and do not have the music on loud all of the time. So measuring the noise from car stereos as being a constant just seems to be stretching things a little.

And I wonder where you have situated your cafe if every couple of minutes during constant traffic jams there are drivers with their windows open playing loud music. I really think there is a bit of fabricating going on here. Bet you get an occassional driver going past and subjecting you to a few seconds of their loud music, and that's probably on a bad day.

Mountains out of molehills springs to mind.

Am I to assume that you cannot tell the difference between continuous loud music being played all hours of the day and night, and a two or three second duration as a car passes you with the stereo on loud?
There is a big difference, and I have already stated that I would not keep my car stereo playing loudly if I was parked up in a resedential area.
When I drive past you, you may be subjected to my loud music for a few seconds, and this is hardly to be compared with noisy neighbours who have their home stereos blaring out until 3 or 4am.

If you cannot see the difference then what more can be said?

Of course I can see the difference. I'm also a person who is aware of others, and try to minimise annoyance to them by my actions. On a motorway or remote roads, loud music is fine. In built up residential areas I don't think it is. But however much the majority don't like it - it obviously won't change the habits of the 'my rights' brigade. :shakes:

Of course I can see the difference. I'm also a person who is aware of others, and try to minimise annoyance to them by my actions. On a motorway or remote roads, loud music is fine. In built up residential areas I don't think it is. But however much the majority don't like it - it obviously won't change the habits of the 'my rights' brigade. :shakes:

You are a one person majority now? Okay - two if we include Ruby. Since when has that been a majority? Unless there were only three people on the planet, I suppose, in which case you would probably not have a problem with this anyhow.
And what will you decide to ban next because you and your imaginary majority dislike it?

I think it was Stockhausen who wrote a piece of music which lasted for something like one and a half hours and it was total silence! Perhaps it'd solve a few of the probs in this discussion if 'garage', '*rap' etc was suddenly to be overtaken by 'conceptual'. The wrong way round cap, souped up 'big stylee' car body filler ridden VW Jetta brigade with custom plastic 'alloy' hubcaps from 'Poundland', blacked out lights (sensible!), blue LED on the bonnet and custom paintwork courtesy of the spare cans left over from outdoor wall 'decorating' exploits should try this out! Have it pumped up loud man! :loopy::D

My window is literally over a pavement...a few yards futher down the road is a crossroads with a set of traffic lights....sometimes there is just one car at the lights, sometimes there is a queue. Everybody has their own particular choice of music that they seem to think that is everyone elses too. They're not greedy and like to share it with no thought of whether anyone else will like or not.
This is fine if there is no one else on the road, but when the next car or the one after is doing the same then being sitting in the living room is a bit like having someone zapping from channel to channel on the telly.
Someone mentioned that those of us living near traffic should get double glazing...well yes, but we also like OUR windows open on a Summers day.
I shout to ask them what else they got for Christmas but of course they can't hear me, so it's pointless really.
What I'm curious about, if I was cleaning my windows just as someone decided to share their music with me and the bucket of water slipped and went all over their car and in through their windows, would I get away with saying that I just wanted to share it with them......like they were sharing their music with me:?:
Having said that, I'm sure there used to be something in the Highway Code about not playing radios/stereos/ghettoblasters in built up areas.

Totally agree

You are a one person majority now? Okay - two if we include Ruby. Since when has that been a majority? Unless there were only three people on the planet, I suppose, in which case you would probably not have a problem with this anyhow.
And what will you decide to ban next because you and your imaginary majority dislike it?

I don't consider myself a majority, but I'd imagine most ordinary, peace loving people don't want the disturbance of other people's noise even if it is brief. As well as disliking loud music from cars, many people are fed up of those who treat us to their ringtones or MP3 tunes on public transport. But its fairly obvious (not just from this discussion) that we live in selfish times, where some people will always put their rights before considering anyone else. Its also fairly unlikely that my/Ruby's point of view will glean much support here as people of our generation are very much in the minority on fora such as this.

I'm so glad hennypenny is teaching her children old-fashioned values of consideration and respect for others. There's hope for us yet!

Emergency vehicles hardly use the sirens anymore anyway, and you can see the blue lights in the mirrors if they're coming up behind you, so that's that argument gone out the window.

I don't really see why I should turn my music down, fair enough if I was parked outside your house all day blasting out tunes then fine, but 3 seconds of annoyance as I drive past really isn't worth complaining about.

And if you're that bothered, write to the council and tell them to take out the bloody speed bumps and I can get past your house quicker.

Emergency vehicles hardly use the sirens anymore anyway, and you can see the blue lights in the mirrors if they're coming up behind you, so that's that argument gone out the window.

I don't really see why I should turn my music down, fair enough if I was parked outside your house all day blasting out tunes then fine, but 3 seconds of annoyance as I drive past really isn't worth complaining about.

And if you're that bothered, write to the council and tell them to take out the bloody speed bumps and I can get past your house quicker.

Bet you're a Bugatti 1.1 Fiesta owner aren't you? Of course emergency services use their sirens ... they just turn them off when they're not being held up by traffic as they're very loud and they don't want to annoy people! What if you lived on a main road on the way to the Northen General or any Police station...would you like it if you were woken up by sirens every few minutes in the small hours when there's no need for them? By the way... I'd Google 'tinnitus' if I were you! Oh... try going to the Northern General yourself and getting a life! :loopy:

Bet you're a Bugatti 1.1 Fiesta owner aren't you? Of course emergency services use their sirens ... they just turn them off when they're not being held up by traffic as they're very loud and they don't want to annoy people! What if you lived on a main road on the way to the Northen General or any Police station...would you like it if you were woken up by sirens every few minutes in the small hours when there's no need for them? By the way... I'd Google 'tinnitus' if I were you! Oh... try going to the Northern General yourself and getting a life! :loopy:

Tell you what then - I will do as ambulances etc and if there is no traffic jam I will turn my stereo down. How's that for fair? You cannot say I am an unreasonable person. :hihi::hihi:

You cannot say I am an unreasonable person. :hihi::hihi:But I could say you were a moron. And you have kids! God only knows what sort of people they're going to grow up to be ... antisocial AND deaf, probably, at least :hihi:

Our emergency services use their sirens which is bad as well when it's right under the window...trouble is, with it being traffic lights ahead, the people sitting in their cars listening to their music, can't hear the sirens cos of their music being so loud.
By the way, I always thought that you had to have a public licence to broadcast music to the public....:huh:

But I could say you were a moron. And you have kids! God only knows what sort of people they're going to grow up to be ... antisocial AND deaf, probably, at least :hihi:

I love it when you get personal. You know nothing about me or my family. I could say you are a moaning whinging old biddy with nothing better to do than go on and on and on about the slightest thing. And you are a human! I so hope you do not have children. :suspect:

Our emergency services use their sirens which is bad as well when it's right under the window...trouble is, with it being traffic lights ahead, the people sitting in their cars listening to their music, can't hear the sirens cos of their music being so loud.
By the way, I always thought that you had to have a public licence to broadcast music to the public....:huh:

Hands up all those deaf heads who cannot hear emergency services because of their stereos being on too loud. I believe - though I could be wrong - that you can get into hot water using the excuse that you did not hear because your stereo was too loud.

Ah well - join the ranks of the moaning minnies.

Tell you what then - I will do as ambulances etc and if there is no traffic jam I will turn my stereo down. How's that for fair? You cannot say I am an unreasonable person. :hihi::hihi:

You seem to have missed the point a bit ... I said emergency services don't use their sirens when not necessary. Yes they use them to get through traffic but show respect to pedestrians and home owners when the sirens aren't required.
I used to own a Harley which I fitted with stage 1 exhausts. They were so noisy at higher revs they could easily set off car alarms as I rode past but I chose not to and always went through urban areas in tickover and high gear causing no discernible noise whatsoever. On motorways the noise was brill though !:)

You seem to have missed the point a bit ... I said emergency services don't use their sirens when not necessary. Yes they use them to get through traffic but show respect to pedestrians and home owners when the sirens aren't required.
I used to own a Harley which I fitted with stage 1 exhausts. They were so noisy at higher revs they could easily set off car alarms as I rode past but I chose not to and always went through urban areas in tickover and high gear causing no discernible noise whatsoever. On motorways the noise was brill though !:)

I don't use my car horn when not necessary.

Let's have a run down on this anti-driver rubbish so far -

1. Thou shall not play loud music in thy car.
2. Thou shall not smoke in thy car.
3. Thou shall not (a) drive above the speed limit (b) drive below the speed limit.
4. Thou shall not complain about the state of the roads.
5. Thou shall not complain about the green tax rubbish.

Any more?

Aside from you look like a pillock if you modify your car in any way, shape or form.

I love it when you get personal. You know nothing about me or my family. I could say you are a moaning whinging old biddy with nothing better to do than go on and on and on about the slightest thing. And you are a human! I so hope you do not have children. :suspect:You know you don't love it at all ... why pretend? And as for going on and on, pot and kettle? if you'd just accept that you're totally in the wrong here, and shut up and start behaving like an adult, there'd be no need for people to repeat themselves, endlessly. :)

You know you don't love it at all ... why pretend? And as for going on and on, pot and kettle? if you'd just accept that you're totally in the wrong here, and shut up and start behaving like an adult, there'd be no need for people to repeat themselves, endlessly. :)

You're just getting boring now.
Fact is that your petty insults are not going to alter the fact that I will continue to play my music as loud as I want whilst in my car.

You're just getting boring now.
Fact is that your petty insults are not going to alter the fact that I will continue to play my music as loud as I want whilst in my car.Again pot and kettle but, aside from finding you extremely boring and silly, I'm actually boring myself as well. It's time to go and do something more amusing than arguing with ASBO boy online,

btw, I apologise for calling you a moron, I shouldn't have posted that. My bad.

Again pot and kettle but, aside from finding you extremely boring and silly, I'm actually boring myself as well. It's time to go and do something more amusing than arguing with ASBO boy online,

btw, I apologise for calling you a moron, I shouldn't have posted that. My bad.

Yes - because although I am severely lacking in the brain department I don't even know what a moron is - so you should appologise - for using such big words if nothing else.

Yeah - And me too cos I am having too much fun playing patience with a pack of pub place mats. :hihi:

im sat here laughing my head off after reading the first couple of pages of this thread :hihi:

to the op i get it, it annoys the hell out of you! and it would me if i had to endure it tbh.

i think what people were doing at the beggining of this thread was trying to inject it with some light hearted comments to loosen/cheer you up a little maybe?

also a lot of users on here can be sarcastic and post in an off hand light hearted manner but not in a malicious way, but you have to see there others posts/threads to know what their personalitys are like.


i hope the noise situation calms down for you though :|

im sat here laughing my head off after reading the first couple of pages of this thread :hihi:

to the op i get it, it annoys the hell out of you! and it would me if i had to endure it tbh.

i think what people were doing at the beggining of this thread was trying to inject it with some light hearted comments to loosen/cheer you up a little maybe?

also a lot of users on here can be sarcastic and post in an off hand light hearted manner but not in a malicious way, but you have to see there others posts/threads to know what their personalitys are like.


i hope the noise situation calms down for you though :|

Yes - I am very sorry and promise not to have my music on loud when driving past yours or ruby's. :help:

Yes - I am very sorry and promise not to have my music on loud when driving past yours or ruby's. :help:

thats right see you dont do it again! :hihi:

I work from home and we also have young kids and a baby. When you guys go by with your volume and bass turned up my windows start to rattle and I loose concentration when you're about 100 yds away and you're going slowly because of the speed ramps. In the evenings the kids are often disturbed by it. It's REALLY frustrating guys so come on, please turn it down.

Have you contemplated moving. And It is not just GUYS either.

Have you contemplated moving. And It is not just GUYS either.

Oh come on! You are not being serious? Why should the poster move? If it's that bad it warrants the thought of moving then I will support a ban on loud music being played in cars.

Oh come on! You are not being serious? Why should the poster move? If it's that bad it warrants the thought of moving then I will support a ban on loud music being played in cars.

I only hear one complaint, so cut off the finger and save the hand.

I only hear one complaint, so cut off the finger and save the hand.

There have been a few complaints apparently. I count at least three.

There have been a few complaints apparently. I count at least three.

Hardly half the country, but a start if not the least.

Hardly half the country, but a start if not the least.

I agree with you. I question the belief that loud car music bothers anywhere near 50% of the population. But expecting someone to move because of their inability to cope with it is a bit extreme. If it was noisy neighbours then the neighbours who are being noisy should be forced to either quieten down or move - not the person they are bothering.
Same goes with car music.

I agree with you. I question the belief that loud car music bothers anywhere near 50% of the population. But expecting someone to move because of their inability to cope with it is a bit extreme. If it was noisy neighbours then the neighbours who are being noisy should be forced to either quieten down or move - not the person they are bothering.
Same goes with car music.

The alleged noisy vehicle did move on, as was quoted in excess of "100yrds".

The alleged noisy vehicle did move on, as was quoted in excess of "100yrds".

I know. That has been my argument all along against the OP. As long as the car with the loud music playing is not parked up outside their house then there should not be a problem.

Will you stop arguing with me when I am agreeing with you? It is very confusing, and now I have lost my game of pub tablemat patience - and I was down to the last two mats.

Selfish to request and selfish not to be polite, on both parties account.

I know. That has been my argument all along against the OP. As long as the car with the loud music playing is not parked up outside their house then there should not be a problem.

Will you stop arguing with me when I am agreeing with you? It is very confusing, and now I have lost my game of pub tablemat patience - and I was down to the last two mats.

Sorry! Understood.

There have been a few complaints apparently. I count at least three.

Make that four. The streets around here are narrow, with terraced houses without front gardens, so the thumping bass from a moving car is very audible for quite a long time.

I rate my neighbours' and my right to open our windows on a sunny day without being deafened rather more highly than some inconsiderate prat's right to listen to whatever they want, at whatever volume they want.

Make that four. The streets around here are narrow, with terraced houses without front gardens, so the thumping bass from a moving car is very audible for quite a long time.

I rate my neighbours' and my right to open our windows on a sunny day without being deafened rather more highly than some inconsiderate prat's right to listen to whatever they want, at whatever volume they want.

Souunds like putting Right's before Right's.

Souunds like putting Rights before Rights.

That is what we do when we live in a society.

You are a one person majority now? Okay - two if we include Ruby. Since when has that been a majority? Unless there were only three people on the planet, I suppose, in which case you would probably not have a problem with this anyhow.
And what will you decide to ban next because you and your imaginary majority dislike it?

Three if you include me. Anyone sat in their car with the music on stupid level in a built up area or in slow traffic is an egocentric, attention craving richardhead.

I had to be moved on from one such example parked outside the local takeaway as I could cheerfully have harmed him just because of his lack of sensitivity to (or his complete disregard of) others. To me it is in the same league as wantonly dropping litter, spitting in the street and swearing in public places.

Three if you include me. Anyone sat in their car with the music on stupid level in a built up area or in slow traffic is an egocentric, attention craving richardhead.

I had to be moved on from one such example parked outside the local takeaway as I could cheerfully have harmed him just because of his lack of sensitivity to (or his complete disregard of) others. To me it is in the same league as wantonly dropping litter, spitting in the street and swearing in public places.

You should calm down a bit, stressing yourself over things like that is going to damage your health, especially if you live in, or visit any cities. Try listening to some music...

Three if you include me. Anyone sat in their car with the music on stupid level in a built up area or in slow traffic is an egocentric, attention craving richardhead.

I had to be moved on from one such example parked outside the local takeaway as I could cheerfully have harmed him just because of his lack of sensitivity to (or his complete disregard of) others. To me it is in the same league as wantonly dropping litter, spitting in the street and swearing in public places.

Bold - Or maybe they just cannot be bothered to keep turning the volume up and down and up and down and ... so on.
Why do people always resort to name calling? I do it on occassion - most often when I feel threatened, but that does not make it right.
You could be an egocentric, attention craving richardhead because what you wear makes you one, or the hairstyle, or the things you eat, or how you act - but are you really?

If someone is parked outside a local takeaway playing their music loud and you felt a need to respond in such a way then it is you who has the problem. When you walk past a pub with the jukebox on loud do you feel the urge to walk in and beat up the landlord? When you walk past a house where someone is having a party do you want to wade in and beat up the house owner? You have serious issues you need to get sorted it seems.

You should calm down a bit, stressing yourself over things like that is going to damage your health, especially if you live in, or visit any cities. Try listening to some music...

Deep breathing and some nice AC/DC on full tilt. I'm just jealous cos my CD player has broken and the radio is stuck on '5 Live'.

Bold - Or maybe they just cannot be bothered to keep turning the volume up and down and up and down and ... so on.
Why do people always resort to name calling? I do it on occassion - most often when I feel threatened, but that does not make it right.
You could be an egocentric, attention craving richardhead because what you wear makes you one, or the hairstyle, or the things you eat, or how you act - but are you really?

If someone is parked outside a local takeaway playing their music loud and you felt a need to respond in such a way then it is you who has the problem. When you walk past a pub with the jukebox on loud do you feel the urge to walk in and beat up the landlord? When you walk past a house where someone is having a party do you want to wade in and beat up the house owner? You have serious issues you need to get sorted it seems.

Agreed. But like he said, he moved on quietly, not wanting to becoming a statistic, give him a break.

Agreed. But like he said, he moved on quietly, not wanting to becoming a statistic, give him a break.

I can't give him a break. Bloomdido is responsible for keeping me on my toes. If I ignore his posts then I am lost.... Lost I tell you.

I can't give him a break. Bloomdido is responsible for keeping me on my toes. If I ignore his posts then I am lost.... Lost I tell you.

LOL. So be it.

LOL. So be it.

Maybe now you have started posting I can sack him :hihi:

You can have the job of keeping me on my toes. :suspect:

Maybe now you have started posting I can sack him :hihi: You can have the job of keeping me on my toes. :suspect:*looks askance* :suspect: *pouts* :rolleyes:

*leaves thread* :|

*looks askance* :suspect: *pouts* :rolleyes:

*leaves thread* :|

Sorry Ruby. You will always keep me on my toes - but that's not your job. Your job is to call me names I do not understand. :hihi::hihi:

You've all done a drive past today, haven't you, just to prove your point? :P Lol, there's been a load of bizarros driving past with their crap music blaring out, lunchtime onwards. :help:

:hihi:

You've all done a drive past today, haven't you, just to prove your point? :P Lol, there's been a load of bizarros driving past with their crap music blaring out, lunchtime onwards. :help:

:hihi:

Damn! I have been home all day. Completely forgot about the prearranged driveby at your place. I am so going to be the laughing stock of all my friend now. They will think I am scared of you. :hihi::hihi:

Can't believe this stupid thread's still dragging on! Why don't all the people who like to deafen themselves and WILL suffer permanent ear damage do it through cordless headphones and leave normal people a bit of peace and quiet? :huh:

Can't believe this stupid thread's still dragging on! Why don't all the people who like to deafen themselves and WILL suffer permanent ear damage do it through cordless headphones and leave normal people a bit of peace and quiet? :huh:

He says - continuing the thread :loopy:

I suppose part of the question should be - how loud is loud music? If it is anything loud enough for other people to hear - most people are up the creek without an engine.

He says - continuing the thread :loopy:

I suppose part of the question should be - how loud is loud music? If it is anything loud enough for other people to hear - most people are up the creek without an engine.

Call me loopy then... brilliant riposte!
To answer your question... loud music is anything over 85 decibels. Anything over this over a period of time WILL cause a noise induced hearing disorder most probably tinnitus. Why don't you look it up?... do you want to induce a hearing disorder whereby you have a permanent buzzing in your head for the rest of your life (24/7) the damage is irreversible? You will be listening to noise of well over 100 decibels whereby 95db is twice as loud as 85db.

Call me loopy then... brilliant riposte!
To answer your question... loud music is anything over 85 decibels. Anything over this over a period of time WILL cause a noise induced hearing disorder most probably tinnitus. Why don't you look it up?... do you want to induce a hearing disorder whereby you have a permanent buzzing in your head for the rest of your life (24/7) the damage is irreversible? You will be listening to noise of well over 100 decibels whereby 95db is twice as loud as 85db.

You just complained about the thread still going on and by doing so you keep it going - and you don't think that deserves a loopy? If you had not said anything it would possibly be dead now.

Well then - thanks for the answer. My car stereo is the standard one fitted to a Mondeo so probably has a max of 2 decibels at full blast. Seems loud to me though.

Call me loopy then... brilliant riposte!
To answer your question... loud music is anything over 85 decibels. Anything over this over a period of time WILL cause a noise induced hearing disorder most probably tinnitus. Why don't you look it up?... do you want to induce a hearing disorder whereby you have a permanent buzzing in your head for the rest of your life (24/7) the damage is irreversible? You will be listening to noise of well over 100 decibels whereby 95db is twice as loud as 85db.

But a car driving past a house isn't going to give you tinnitus is it so what's your point?

But a car driving past a house isn't going to give you tinnitus is it so what's your point?

'My point' is I have suffered from tinnitus for five years and know what I'm talking about. Anyone stood anywhere near your car whilst you're playing music at high volume is susceptible to ear damage. One of you noise lovers proudly said in an earlier post they'd just spent over £1500 on a noise system for their car (which will damage them) I recently spent twice that much on computer controlled earphones to try to alleviate some of my tinnitus to very little effect.
Bet that's put a smile on your face! :)

Why would you stand next to such a loud car, for such a long period of time that you'd get hearing damage, even if normal car stereos could produce over 85db outside the car?

Why would you stand next to such a loud car, for such a long period of time that you'd get hearing damage, even if normal car stereos could produce over 85db outside the car?

Talk to an audiologist instead of asking me inane questions you muppet! Go and damage your hearing irreversibly without even bothering to read up on noise damage. You obviously know far more than any experts! :loopy:

I did...

sound begins to damage our hearing when it is above 85 dB SPL (for a 8 hour period).

So why would you stand next to the loudest car you could find for 8 hours solid? It'd need it's windows open too, so the body of the car didn't block the damaging high frequencies.

It's not going to happen from somebody driving past your house, no matter how loud their car stereo is.

Even at 100db it takes 15 minutes to cause any measurable hearing damage & the further away you are, the quieter it is. Just under 30 seconds for hearing damage at 115db, but that's equivalent to being stood next to a jet engine.

Those are health & safety figures, so there's an element of caution in there.

Talk to an audiologist instead of asking me inane questions you muppet! Go and damage your hearing irreversibly without even bothering to read up on noise damage. You obviously know far more than any experts! :loopy:

My car stereo can produce a max of about 60db - which I still consider loud, and does cause some people to turn their heads, but is hardly going to cause anyone serious problems - considering my average car journey is about 30 minutes, and I am unlikely to have it on at full volume.
It would still annoy some people and you would get some who complain.
Interestingly a baby crying is somewhat more hazardous than my car stereo. Should we ban babies crying? :hihi:

'My point' is I have suffered from tinnitus for five years and know what I'm talking about. Anyone stood anywhere near your car whilst you're playing music at high volume is susceptible to ear damage. One of you noise lovers proudly said in an earlier post they'd just spent over £1500 on a noise system for their car (which will damage them) I recently spent twice that much on computer controlled earphones to try to alleviate some of my tinnitus to very little effect.
Bet that's put a smile on your face! :)

What's my car got to do with anything? Who said I had a loud stereo?

Wow, that obviously makes you an expert then, I also have tinnitus through years of going to gigs and standing too close to speakers, I guess I'm an expert too.

Standing on the pavement as a car playing loud music drives past is *not* going to give you tinnitus so your point is still irrelevant to this discussion.

Why do you think that because you spent £3k on something that doesn't work would put a smile on my face :huh: