I was just wondering....

It's not an elitest question - I'm just curious as to:

how many forumers have been brought to this city by it's two universities, :)

whether any forumers still 'come here' although they've finished their course and left :sad:

how many liked it so much they stayed :thumbsup:


And just so anybody else can join in - do you know anybody who fits the above description ? :suspect:


PS. You can pick more than one answer ;)

lots of votes but no replies!

I'm from Norwich and study Planning and Transport at Hallam

i came to uni here in 2001 and made so many good friends and felt so at home here i just didn't want to leave!!! so i didn't. plus the men here are better than my home town :D

I am sheffield born and bred, and also had all my education here, school college uni, and now I'm older back to college part time again, doing something unrelated and interesting, rather than career building. I have loads of friends from my collage and uni days, more than half of which are from other parts, and have come to spend their lives, and have their careers here. Maybe not forever but who can say that, certainly not me!

Hi
I came to the Uni in 1989 did a degree, masters and then a PhD....then had to get a real job:D

LisaH xxx

Originally posted by muddycoffee
I am sheffield born and bred, and also had all my education here, school college uni,

So did you vote 'yes' and 'no'? :P

Of course because I was both born and bred, and I didn't fancy going to another city to university for some reason(lazyness)

Well, at the moment we have more students/graduates than Sheffielders here :shocked:

I'm from a medium sized town in North West Leicestershire and ended up at Sheffield Uni after being turned down by Bristol. I have no regrets now that this is where I ended up.

I love the city, the people, the uni and the lifestyle and before you say anything I am not the stereotypical student who sleeps in until midday, watches soaps and gets ****** at house parties every other night.

Since Christmas, I have been getting up between 8 and 9 on a daily basis due to the demands of my course and working my arse off. Whether I come out with a great paying job is not my main concern, it will be the overwhelming sense of achievement for me when I do pass my course (I study computer science by the way) after all the hard work I will have put in. That's why I am glad I have come here and am doing a challenging course rather than a "Mickey Mouse" course that would give me a warrant to be a stereotypical student.

Hope you enjoy reading my reply!

Originally posted by sheffieldfox
Since Christmas, I have been getting up between 8 and 9 on a daily basis due to the demands of my course and working my arse off. Whether I come out with a great paying job is not my main concern, it will be the overwhelming sense of achievement for me when I do pass my course (I study computer science by the way) after all the hard work I will have put in. That's why I am glad I have come here and am doing a challenging course rather than a "Mickey Mouse" course that would give me a warrant to be a stereotypical student.


You don't get up and lick the road clean then? ;)

(apologies if you're too young to get that quote :rolleyes: )

I am at University but alsoborn and bred in Sheffield.

I came to Sheffield in the mid/late 80s to do a Masters degree at the University.

Loved the city so much I stayed on!

StarSparkle :)

I came to Sheffield in 1996 and went to the University of Sheffield. Loved the place, finished my bachelor's and stayed on, working in IT. Still here now, no plans to leave.

Hard to say where I'm from - I've lived all over and never settled enough to think of anywhere as home. If anyone asks me I usually say I'm 'from' Sheffield as it's the only place I've ever chosen to live for myself.

I was born in Worksop, then I moved to Sheffield when I was 2. I'm going to stay in SHU as they have a law clinic which Sheffield Uni doesnt... There are only 2 law clinics in the UK, so I'm told, and I've chosen Hallam over Sheffield for this reason as hands on experience is not something Sheffield Uni grads can put on their CV :heyhey:

i came to sheffield uni to study town planning
my partner came to sheffield hallam to study packaging design
we both hope to stay in sheffield in the future :)

Originally posted by caprice
.... I've chosen Hallam over Sheffield for this reason as hands on experience is not something Sheffield Uni grads can put on their CV :heyhey:
Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with the demolition of the engineering labs for that reason. It's all about £/m2 these days. Stuff actually educating students with something useful :mad:

SHU used to have the most advanced facility for studying wave technology/water erosion (or something. I'm not civils myself)

I came to shu uni in 1998 and have stayed after getting my degree. I could of gone back to Manchester with my boyf who is also a manc but we like it here so we stayed.

I visit my frinds back in Manchester occasionally and i do miss my freinds but not the place really.

I'm from Sheffield, but never lived here until my student years.
I plan on staying though, no going back to the **** hole I've been living until now !
Unfortunately, Sheffield has changed recently, it's nho longer the vibrant city I have once known, it just seems to be a reproduction of other less appealling cities in the Kingdom.

Still, Sheffield's the way forward !!!

I came to Sheffield in 2003 and attend Hallam. I maybe in the minority here but although I have really enjoyed my student years, I would never think of staying in Sheffield once I graduate. Would much rather move back to Bristol or maybe even try London for a few years .

It's not that there is anything wrong with Sheffield per se, the people are lovely and I have been made very welcome. But it just doesn't have the appeal of Bristol. Sorry peeps

Originally posted by Lucy_Smith
it just doesn't have the appeal of Bristol.
Anybody else feel as though they're missing something?
Bristol? :suspect: :confused:

My cousin doesn't live in Bristol anymore.

Originally posted by Strix
Anybody else feel as though they're missing something?
Bristol? :suspect: :confused:

My cousin doesn't live in Bristol anymore.

Yes Bristol...far nicer than Sheffield but I suspect I'm gonna be overwhelmed with responses saying otherwise on this forum! :lol:

It does have it's shabby parts but its nicer parts put Eccleshall to shame. I went to school in Clifton and thought it was so beautiful...like a little village in the middle of a city. Sheffield doesn't have anything that compares to that.

It's all down to personal choice but I miss Bristol so much and if I'm not too attracted by the pull of work in London I am very likely to move back there!

Came of my own steam.

Went to uni in Leeds but work in Sheffield.

-PK-

Been at The university for a few years. Started off doing Computer Science, then changed to Biology for a bit more excitement ;) I'll be graduating soon, then will stay in Sheffield.

Originally posted by Lucy_Smith


It does have it's shabby parts but its nicer parts put Eccleshall to shame.

a) It's "Ecclesall"

b) Where do you mean by Ecclesall? Not Ecclesall *ROAD* I hope, because that isn't the area of Ecclesall.

c) I've been to Bristol, around the shops in the centre, and I don't know if it's because I parked at a dodgy end of town but I felt very threatened by all the homeless drunks stumbling around.

Started coming here in about 1999 to visit a mate and go out. Fell in love with the place. Finally got to move here last summer (from Birmingham, where I'd been for 12 years). Feel so much happier and less stressed since. Just getting up in the morning and looking out of the window at the amazing view, I can't stop smiling all day. Yay Sheffield.

Sheffield University brought me here... in Feb. :)

Originally posted by t020
a) It's "Ecclesall"

b) Where do you mean by Ecclesall? Not Ecclesall *ROAD* I hope, because that isn't the area of Ecclesall.

c) I've been to Bristol, around the shops in the centre, and I don't know if it's because I parked at a dodgy end of town but I felt very threatened by all the homeless drunks stumbling around.

Hee hee know that might have got a response ;)

No I do mean proper Ecclesall and although it is the nicest part of Sheffield, compared to the likes of Clifton it really isn't that great. You went to the not so nice part of Bristol...but next time you visit go to Clifton. As far as I know it was all built on the wealth of the slave trade and it really is magnificant. I have visited many cities and have never found anywhere that appears quite so village-y right in the heart of a city.

EDIT And yes I do know it's Ecclesall not Eccleshall...was just trying to wind you up ;)

Originally posted by Lucy_Smith
Hee hee know that might have got a response ;)

No I do mean proper Ecclesall and although it is the nicest part of Sheffield, compared to the likes of Clifton it really isn't that great. You went to the not so nice part of Bristol...but next time you visit go to Clifton. As far as I know it was all built on the wealth of the slave trade and it really is magnificant. I have visited many cities and have never found anywhere that appears quite so village-y right in the heart of a city.

EDIT And yes I do know it's Ecclesall not Eccleshall...was just trying to wind you up ;)

I wouldn't say Ecclesall was the nicest part of Sheffield. Have you been to Ranmoor?

University Of Sheffield brought me here in 2003 - I graduate in 2008 and I plan to stay here (jobs pending)
I love it - am from industrial town in North East orginally and Sheffield couldnt be more different! (in a good way)
Alex

Went to SHU but born and raised in Sheffield but leaving come the end of August hopefully. I need a change!

Originally posted by jessycar
Went to SHU but born and raised in Sheffield but leaving come the end of August hopefully. I need a change!
Will that make you our first 'glad I got out' then? :(

(and please tell me you're going further away than Barnsley :rolleyes: ) ;)

Came up in '93 to be with my ex (studying at the university), then split from him and did my own degree up here. :hihi:

Not planning on going anywhere else, I'm getting married to my Sheffield born-n-bred lad in September :D

I didn't go to any university, and came to Sheffield under my own steam. Absolutely adore this city.

Originally posted by t020
I wouldn't say Ecclesall was the nicest part of Sheffield. Have you been to Ranmoor?

Personally speaking, I think Norfolk Park is one of the nicest parts of Sheffield.

Came to Sheffield from the Fens in 2000, did a Degree and Diploma in Town Planning at Hallam, now work (not for the council) and live in the city.

Originally posted by t020
I wouldn't say Ecclesall was the nicest part of Sheffield. Have you been to Ranmoor?

No...so maybe there is more that I haven't seen that may well woo me. I think part of it comes down to missing my family anyway though, I didn't quite realise how far away they were until they drove me up here and abandoned me *sobs*

I came here from Norwich to study for my degree at THE University (as it's known), and have stayed on, and am now working for THE University's Union!

I'm very glad I stayed and love the city, oh and now I'm no longer a lazy student I've also discovered the Peaks - Great!

I too came to THE University in 1989 and never left ... Essex was a place I never missed and even my family have moved away from there now. I had already met Draggletail when I decided to stay here in 1993, although at the time I had no idea he would become my future other half :heyhey:

I've also ended up working at THE University - just can't get away from the place!

Started at SHU nearly 4 years ago, just about to graduate, bought a house here last year after renting with my GF for a year. She isn't from Sheffield either and moved here with me when I couldn't keep commuting from back home.

What's with all the THE university, is is just for emphesis or is there some Uni snobbery going on!! I am sure I have seen a one vs the other thread somewhere but cant find it now!? Didn't want to start it up again here!

I'm born and bred, but my SO was a student and stayed because she liked it.

Compared to other university cities that i've experienced Sheffield has a lot of graduates stay because they like the place.
(I'm basing this on my experience of students and graduates in jitsu clubs from Sheffield to Portsmouth via the Midlands).

I first starting coming to Sheffield in order to get to the Peaks (only really saw train station). Then moved here aged 16 and went to Sheff College. Went to Hallam and graduate in a month. Got a job last week (start in Sept) so looks like I will be staying for at least a couple of years. Not planning on dying here though. Other half has heart set on Japan!

Originally posted by march
Started at SHU nearly 4 years ago, just about to graduate, bought a house here last year after renting with my GF for a year. She isn't from Sheffield either and moved here with me when I couldn't keep commuting from back home.

What's with all the THE university, is is just for emphesis or is there some Uni snobbery going on!! I am sure I have seen a one vs the other thread somewhere but cant find it now!? Didn't want to start it up again here!

I didn't intend any kind of snobbery - just emphasis on THE as I don't know how else to distinguish it.

I came to the University of Sheffield in 1998, when I was 18. Was born in the lake district to Liverpuddlian parents, raised in Scotland, Hampshire, the isle of Man and back to Hampshire again.
Had an intense desire to return north again, as the people are so much nicer, chose Sheffield for it's greenery, finished uni in 2001 and have stayed since, I have now lived here longer than anywhere else (even though it is only 7 years) and don't think I would ever live anywhere else in the UK. Going to Australia for a year soon, but know I will always return to Sheffield :D

Born in Sheffield and going to Sheffield Hallam. There seems to be quite a few people there who are still living at home in the Sheffield area. I know quite a few who commute from Barnsley and Rotherham.

I stayed at home for loads of reasons :) having your ironing done for you is always a plus!

Came here in 1992 to attend THE uni, didn't want to, wanted Leeds, but hubby missed his train and therefore his interview for Leeds.

Moved here, fell in love - so much better than Leeds!, Left briefly for two years to start a career in Birmingham. Decided career not as important as Sheffield and all the friends I'd made here so came back - will never never never leave again:)

Originally posted by march
What's with all the THE university, is is just for emphesis or is there some Uni snobbery going on!! I am sure I have seen a one vs the other thread somewhere but cant find it now!? Didn't want to start it up again here!
Don't worry about it March ;) It's a dig at the snobbery attached to the situation by the students.

It's my thread and I started at the Poly in '89 but graduated from Sheffield Hallam University *spits*. There are noticable differences in the new establishment, which us engineers disapprove of :suspect: You can't even study Civils there anymore!! :confused: HND Estate Agency??? Gimme a break! :mad:

Originally posted by Norton
I stayed at home for loads of reasons :) having your ironing done for you is always a plus!

:rolleyes: Like ironing is important when you're trying to get to where you're going in life? :rolleyes:

Does your mum comb your hair before you walk out the front door too? :hihi:

(Shouldn't really do that to somebody I don't really know, but sorry, I couldn't resist ;) )

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that there are more Sheffield locals at Sheffield Hallam than the other Uni, and probably a higher stay on rate by students from Sheffield University than Hallam.
Just an impression i get

Originally posted by aNTAcid
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that there are more Sheffield locals at Sheffield Hallam than the other Uni, and probably a higher stay on rate by students from Sheffield University than Hallam.
Just an impression i get
That might have something to do with the neighbourhoods each group of students have spent 3 years living in :suspect:

I came here from down south in 1997, to study at Sheffield Uni. Liked it so much that I stayed and worked here for a few years. I'm now back at uni doing a masters. I'm worried that I may have to leave in the next few months otherwise I might never get a job in the field I am training for. I feel like I should leave and experience a new city, but in my heart-of-hearts, I'd rather stay in Sheffield.

Let's face it, there's only 1 real uni in Sheffield, and that's not Hallam. Hallam is a waste of space former poly which contributes to the degredation of Higher Education in the UK by watering down the difficulty and standard of further education.

A bare pass from Sheffield uni is worth more than a 1st from Hallam. My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.

Originally posted by The_truth
A bare pass from Sheffield uni is worth more than a 1st from Hallam. My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.

And your proof is??? I'd suggest a bare pass from Hallam is woth a damn sight more than a 1st from Cambridge if you already have experience of the field you are trying to get into.

Originally posted by The_truth
Let's face it, there's only 1 real uni in Sheffield, and that's not Hallam. Hallam is a waste of space former poly which contributes to the degredation of Higher Education in the UK by watering down the difficulty and standard of further education.

A bare pass from Sheffield uni is worth more than a 1st from Hallam. My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.

Pff what a load of BS!
People choose their own university for the course that they offer. I could easily study law at THE sheffield uni, but I have chosen not to, as they do not have a law clinic, which will provide me with hands on experience... SHU on the other hand, do have this, which is one of the reasons (the main one) why I picked this university. I recall in the SHU vs Sheff uni debate, someone accused t020 of not being "bright" enough to get into Sheffield, as he'd chosen to go to SHU... What people who partake in this kind of snobbery don't see is the fact that whilst they are busy rambling on and categorising people according to which uni they go to, the people who have made a concious career decision (like me and t020) are actually getting on with our degrees, while you are getting a "bare" pass.

That's nothing to be proud of, its all well being a snob and a failure. :suspect:

Quick someone dig up an old Hallam vs Uni thread so we dont go way off topic! I could have gone to a number of "Proper" unis when I left college. I chose hallam as it had a much better course for what I wanted to do.

Plus I did a year and a half long placement which means I can now apply for jobs that need 1-2 years experience. I believe I am a much better prospect to potential employers than someone completing an academic degree at a traditional Uni with no "hands on experience"?

Originally posted by The_truth


A bare pass from Sheffield uni is worth more than a 1st from Hallam. My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.

Do you know its sad but its true. Its not fair (in most cases) but its still true. I feel sorry for the youngsters who can't tell the difference between a red brick and a new when selecting their uni

Originally posted by Sara
Do you know its sad but its true. Its not fair (in most cases) but its still true. I feel sorry for the youngsters who can't tell the difference between a red brick and a new when selecting their uni

I walked out of school with As virtually across the board, chose "new" and walked into a graduate accountancy roll after I graduated, so I'm not complaining. In a few years time I'll be earning much more than most who went to "red bricks", so it's all good.

Originally posted by The_truth
Let's face it, there's only 1 real uni in Sheffield, and that's not Hallam. Hallam is a waste of space former poly which contributes to the degredation of Higher Education in the UK by watering down the difficulty and standard of further education.

A bare pass from Sheffield uni is worth more than a 1st from Hallam. My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.
Of course there is little that can be done about a person's personality no matter which establishment they attend :rolleyes:

PS - I know at least one person who turned Cambridge down for it's lack of contact with reality ;)
He went to Glasgow before deciding to transfer to Manchester

Originally posted by Sara
Do you know its sad but its true. Its not fair (in most cases) but its still true. I feel sorry for the youngsters who can't tell the difference between a red brick and a new when selecting their uni
:confused: but I've only ever been asked about experience in interviews :confused:
It always counts for far more than the grades in my field, because thinking on your feet is something you cannot learn surrounded by RedBrick :D

Originally posted by Strix
:rolleyes: Like ironing is important when you're trying to get to where you're going in life? :rolleyes:



I'll ignore the rest of your comments ;)

Surely by going to University and studing for a degree to lead to a decent job, you're "trying to get where you're going"? Why should you feel the need to leave home to do this? I have a social life like anyone else, but I'm also not saddled with the debt a lot of travelling students I know have. I was also able to keep on my part-time job which I'd had for a couple of years.

Don't knock it if it doesn't suit you, it suits me just fine :)

Actually it has nothing to do with anything you've mentioned there, Norton. Employers have asked me whether I lived ato home or away whilst studying. It's about 'life skills' :thumbsup:

PS - I couldn't afford to leave home, but it drove me nuts enough that I left for my final year :P

I'm from Corby in Northamptonshire and studying Town Planning at Hallam.

Liked the place so much I didnt go home last summer, although a work placement means I wont be here this summer, which is a shame because i'll miss the day-to-day city centre development.

Im not fussed over what people say about UoS being better than SHU etc, i'm happy with what im doing and its getting me where I want to go. Cant ask for more really...

Studying English studies at Sheffield Hallam, great course, great university, great city.

m

Nobody has voted 'glad I got out' yet :banana:

I suppose they wouldn't choose to use SheffieldForum if that was the case though :(

I came here to study, but am yorkshire born and bred anyway. Sheffield looks set to become a pretty cool place in next few years, so if i can get a job I'll stay round here or maybe leeds

Born and bread in Sheffield then escaped to Wakefield to study at Bretton Hall (part of Leeds before they became money hungry and ripped the place to shreds) and have many fond memories of that time :)

Sheffield pulled me back and I'm living 5 minutes walk from my Secondary School (how depressing) but escape every day to work in Doncaster.

Sheffield is a good place to be and with the flood of students each year it feels really alive.

Will probably die in Sheffield.

:)

im moving 2 sheffield this sept 2 study Chemistry degree 4 4 years. Im from Lincs and fell in love with the city on an open day and hope to stay on in the city after my degree. Hope it lives up 2 all the hype!

Originally posted by Strix
Nobody has voted 'glad I got out' yet :banana:

I suppose they wouldn't choose to use SheffieldForum if that was the case though :(

If I moved away, I'd still come on here! (If I were welcome!)
SF is the best place for news, for example take the man asking kids at Ecclesall to "see his puppies".... I knew about that from school as I'd been warned about him by my tutor, but it was on here ages before The Star got round to reporting it.... I think it was in the paper 2 nights ago... What use is that?!

doing Fine Art here come september :clap: but i know sheffield pretty well thanks to my band.

great city, lots of good places when the sun goes down too

xx

I used to live in Sheffield then got dragged away to the other side of the Pennines to live in Stockport... came back to study at 'The' ;) University because I knew that Sheffield's such a friendly place and has certainly got alot better in the 8 years that I was away!!

Of course the other thing this poll proves, is that it's THE University students who have the most time on their hands to trawl forums. The SHU students are far too busy working to vote in trivial nonsense like this :D

Either that, or there's a heap of teens out there who think SHU is THE Uni :hihi:

(Come on guys, where are you?)

Originally posted by Strix
Of course the other thing this poll proves, is that it's THE University students who have the most time on their hands to trawl forums. The SHU students are far too busy working to vote in trivial nonsense like this :D

Or SHU students haven't worked out how to switch the computer on yet ;)

Originally posted by Skatiechik
Or SHU students haven't worked out how to switch the computer on yet ;)

They turn off, do they? :shocked: ;)

Have to say, although i enjoyed my time at THE university, it did absolutely nothing to help me find work or aid me in any kind of employment.
But what do you expect with a philosophy degree. Think it was a great learning experience and I appreciate the knowledge and way of thinking it gave me, but then who wants a job anyway. :D :D


Originally posted by Strix
Of course the other thing this poll proves, is that it's THE University students who have the most time on their hands to trawl forums. The SHU students are far too busy working to vote in trivial nonsense like this :D

Either that, or there's a heap of teens out there who think SHU is THE Uni :hihi:

(Come on guys, where are you?)

Originally posted by aNTAcid
Have to say, although i enjoyed my time at THE university, it did absolutely nothing to help me find work or aid me in any kind of employment.
But what do you expect with a philosophy degree. Think it was a great learning experience and I appreciate the knowledge and way of thinking it gave me, but then who wants a job anyway. :D :D

:shocked: I thought I was joking :shocked:

Originally posted by aNTAcid
Have to say, although i enjoyed my time at THE university, it did absolutely nothing to help me find work or aid me in any kind of employment.

I'd agree there.....

Originally posted by t020
I walked out of school with As virtually across the board, chose "new" and walked into...

Walked!? I thought you drove everywhere.


Originally posted by t020
...a graduate accountancy roll

Is that something like a swiss roll? ;)

Nomme

Originally posted by nomme
Is that something like an swiss roll? ;)

Nomme

More like a cheese bap ;)

Originally posted by The_truth
A bare pass from Sheffield uni is worth more than a 1st from Hallam. My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.

I liked to say that was the case but in todays society where a degree is very much watered down (as everyone goes to University) it doesn't depend so much on the University you went to, but on the key skills and experiences you can offer a company.

Originally posted by The_truth
My bare pass from Cambridge is worth more than both put together.


I wouldn't employ someone with that attitude!

Originally posted by nomme

Is that something like a swiss roll? ;)

Nomme


HAHAHAHHAHAHA! How on earth did I make such a silly mistake? Well spotted. :hihi: :blush:

I came here as a student and have stayed because a lot of my friends from Uni have hung around. Also good job prospects (NHS - some of the best UK hospitals) and good climbing facilities.

I use this forum 'cause as a non-Sheffielder, it's a great way to find things out and where places are etc!

I too have found some of my best friends in this city - and they may be a big factor in me staying for a few years if not a lot of years.

Of course i am quite selfish and emotionless so perhaps I'll just leave anyway. Screw em.

What I have wondered is why are some people so elitist when it comes to Sheffield Uni vs Sheffield Hallam? Hallam do some pretty good degrees. Sheffield tends to do the more 'hard core' acedemic subjects like, but still why all the hostility?

I came to Sheffeild in 1995 to study at Uni, finished BA and MSc

I became ill a few years ago and had to stay while I was being cured. Now that I'm okay I'm planning to move down to London.

I'm sick of the place. I had my car stereo stolen, I replaced it and that one was stolen two days later. I have another stereo which I keep in my house. I only put it in my car when I'm driving to places other than Sheffield. That really sums up what I've come to think of the place.

Over 10 years I've had my house(s) broken into 7 times, had my credit cards stolen twice, had my car broken into 5 times, had my car deliberately scrated 3 times and I've been started on at work, in the street etc etc numerous times.

Where I come from in Chester I hadn't experienced anything like that in 18 years.

People call Sheffield a friendly city!!

Originally posted by dylan_61
I came to Sheffeild in 1995 to study at Uni, finished BA and MSc

I became ill a few years ago and had to stay while I was being cured. Now that I'm okay I'm planning to move down to London.

I'm sick of the place. I had my car stereo stolen, I replaced it and that one was stolen two days later. I have another stereo which I keep in my house. I only put it in my car when I'm driving to places other than Sheffield. That really sums up what I've come to think of the place.

Over 10 years I've had my house(s) broken into 7 times, had my credit cards stolen twice, had my car broken into 5 times, had my car deliberately scrated 3 times and I've been started on at work, in the street etc etc numerous times.

Where I come from in Chester I hadn't experienced anything like that in 18 years.

People call Sheffield a friendly city!! Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!

I disagree. It's not the victims fault if criminals target them. Also, there are plenty of rough places in London that would put Sheffield to shame (and Carterknowle is one of Sheffield's nicer areas, depending on which part it is that Dylan lives).

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!

I do interact with people, some of my best friends are 'locals' and my girlfriend's from Donny. It doesn't change the fact that people steel from me on a regular basis and I've had enough of it.

You touched on another of my 'issues' Class, why is there such an issue about which class / social group you're from.

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!

I find that quite offensive.

How on earth and why on earth should they change themselves to interact with their surroundings?

What are you recommending - don't own a car, don't carry a wallet with credit cards, dress like a tramp so nobody comes near you, move onto a council estate with no posessions to lose?

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!

So people who relate well or interact with other people aren't victims of crime??? :confused: HUH? :loopy:

Originally posted by dragonsoup
Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!

Why do so many graduates stay in Sheffield though? Let's face it Sheffield doesn't have much to offer the ambitious young professional - there is no local IT, media, law, marketing creative industries really to speak of. Even in engineering, one would be better off working for a London based firm. I know if I had a good quality law degree from Sheffield Uni I would look to work for a large London law firm, not some local Sheffield practice for example.

There are no networks where one can meet people and develop their careers for creative and jobs that require face to face contact (for instance the CIQ is a joke - if someone is really interested in the creative industries surely Soho would be the first stop?). The is no atmosphere of enterprise. The corporate image of Sheffield is laughable.

I know it's not the be all and end all, and I would be the first to disagree with this way of life, but there is no 'corporate' culture in Sheffield, no where to be at the centre of cut and thrust commerce for instance, which is generally what skilled ambitious graduates want.

So what do all the graduates who stay in Sheffield do? £6 per hour admin jobs?

I am an MA graduate from Sheffield and was lucky enough to find a job that has given me exceptional career development opportunities, but I think that is the exception rather than the rule. However, to develop my career now, its a choice really between Manchester, London or Birmingham, so it's London bound I go in a few months, and I know that I will be surrounded by young ambitious people, which here in Sheffield I am generally not.

[i] It doesn't change the fact that people steel from me on a regular basis and I've had enough of it.[/B]

"Steel"? Gosh what did you graduate in?
Well they do call this steel city.:P

not everyone likes London. It's big and dirty. I go there now and then, and i'm always glad to leave. Given the choice between a great career and a crap life in London, or a reasonable career and a nice life in Sheffield, I choose the latter.

Originally posted by theflyingfish
Why do so many graduates stay in Sheffield though? Let's face it Sheffield doesn't have much to offer the ambitious young professional - there is no local IT, media, law, marketing creative industries really to speak of. Even in engineering, one would be better off working for a London based firm. I know if I had a good quality law degree from Sheffield Uni I would look to work for a large London law firm, not some local Sheffield practice for example.

There are no networks where one can meet people and develop their careers for creative and jobs that require face to face contact (for instance the CIQ is a joke - if someone is really interested in the creative industries surely Soho would be the first stop?). The is no atmosphere of enterprise. The corporate image of Sheffield is laughable.

I know it's not the be all and end all, and I would be the first to disagree with this way of life, but there is no 'corporate' culture in Sheffield, no where to be at the centre of cut and thrust commerce for instance, which is generally what skilled ambitious graduates want.

So what do all the graduates who stay in Sheffield do? £6 per hour admin jobs?

I am an MA graduate from Sheffield and was lucky enough to find a job that has given me exceptional career development opportunities, but I think that is the exception rather than the rule. However, to develop my career now, its a choice really between Manchester, London or Birmingham, so it's London bound I go in a few months, and I know that I will be surrounded by young ambitious people, which here in Sheffield I am generally not.

Originally posted by theflyingfish
Why do so many graduates stay in Sheffield though? Let's face it Sheffield doesn't have much to offer the ambitious young professional - there is no local IT, media, law, marketing creative industries really to speak of. Even in engineering, one would be better off working for a London based firm. I know if I had a good quality law degree from Sheffield Uni I would look to work for a large London law firm, not some local Sheffield practice for example.

There are no networks where one can meet people and develop their careers for creative and jobs that require face to face contact (for instance the CIQ is a joke - if someone is really interested in the creative industries surely Soho would be the first stop?). The is no atmosphere of enterprise. The corporate image of Sheffield is laughable.

I know it's not the be all and end all, and I would be the first to disagree with this way of life, but there is no 'corporate' culture in Sheffield, no where to be at the centre of cut and thrust commerce for instance, which is generally what skilled ambitious graduates want.

So what do all the graduates who stay in Sheffield do? £6 per hour admin jobs?

I am an MA graduate from Sheffield and was lucky enough to find a job that has given me exceptional career development opportunities, but I think that is the exception rather than the rule. However, to develop my career now, its a choice really between Manchester, London or Birmingham, so it's London bound I go in a few months, and I know that I will be surrounded by young ambitious people, which here in Sheffield I am generally not.

Not everybody wants to live in the s***hole that is London.

StarSparkle

Edit: Oops, looks like Cyclone and I posted at the same time. But we obviously share a preference for a decent quality of life in Sheffield, as opposed to suffering the soulless rat-race that is working life in London.

Originally posted by theflyingfish
Why do so many graduates stay in Sheffield though? Let's face it Sheffield doesn't have much to offer the ambitious young professional... However, to develop my career now, its a choice really between Manchester, London or Birmingham, so it's London bound I go in a few months, and I know that I will be surrounded by young ambitious people, which here in Sheffield I am generally not.

Bye then, Good luck and be sure to shut the door behind you

Hey, there is no need for stuff like "then close the door behind you" - I haven't exactly said good riddance have I? I think those last few posts are a bit over defensive - I was merely stating that in 'the professions' the main opportunities are in London. It surprises me that many students from excellent universities thaT Sheffield have don't move to take those opportunities more. Surely you can't argue with that?! It is one of the cultural, economic and social capitals of the world! I didn't say that it was right or wrong.

London a ****hole?! As opposed to what? I don't think so.

And to say that a move to London automatically equates with a lower standard of living and a crap life is a narrow minded assumption (living in London = a crap life? Really?). I know plenty of people who live a very nice life indeed in London (and in Sheffield come to that). It's not like you get to London and see everyone struggling along with their 'crap lives'! It's not an automatic trade off.

I was jsut saying that for commercial and professional opportunity (if that floats your boat), Sheffield isn't exactly at the head of the queue.

there is less work in sheffield you're right. But there are plenty of other factors that balance it out. I really dislike London, so no matter how good a job I had my standard of life would be much lower and i'd consider it to be crap.

I don't think it's quite as bad as a picture as you've painted though. From an IT perspective there's plenty of work in Leeds, the NHS, DWP or DSS (can't remeber which), EDS and Capgemini all with offices (quite big some of them) in the area.
I could get more money in London, but the cost of living is higher and my quality of life would be lower.

I'm born and bred from Oxford but lived in London as well.

I came to Sheffield because my boyfriend got offered a job here.

I think London is a great place to visit of it you have loads of money (I lived in a very expensive area and the cost of living is very high!)

I prefer Sheffield to London as the people are friendlier and the roads are no-where near as busy. The only down side to Sheffield compared to London is that the night life is rather non existant!

But it is a trade off isn't it? It all depends on your priorities.

I moved to London for economic reasons with the view to getting a years experience in the big smoke under my belt and then moving back to Sheffield. However, for the next 5 years I found myself caught up in a glitzy London lifestyle that has given me great experience and fun times.

But there is a limit to what you can achieve down here. I would recommend it to anyone for a brief period and undoubtedly your career will benefit and you can find like minded people even for your most obscure interests. However, if you want to start a family, buy a house in a reasonable area, have more free time i.e. not commuting hours on end you have to move out of the capital.

I have had a great time in London but I won't have any regrets in moving back to Sheffield in September. I concede that I will have a lower income and more limited career prospects but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make for a better quality of the life I intend to lead.

And I am not alone in this desire to move on. Perhaps it is the age I am at but my friends who don't want to move are in a small minority.

And 5 years on, I still get a ruch of excitement everytime I emerge from the Totley Tunnel and know I am home.

M

Originally posted by Mattski
However, if you want to start a family, buy a house in a reasonable area, have more free time i.e. not commuting hours on end you have to move out of the capital.



M

Fair enough - but this thread, and my original post was about students who don't have the same priorites as you. My question is, why do so many studens not take advantage of the things that you have done?

Didn't really mean to turn this thread into a general "is London better than Sheffield" debate

I'm from Newcastle and I much prefer Sheffield despite shops and employment issues. I hate London it makes me feel all dirty and claustraphobic

I also went to hallam by choice. I had the grades to go to a red brick uni and I was offered places at red brick unis I chose to go there because my course originated there.

Originally posted by theflyingfish
Fair enough - but this thread, and my original post was about students who don't have the same priorites as you. My question is, why do so many studens not take advantage of the things that you have done?

Didn't really mean to turn this thread into a general "is London better than Sheffield" debate

I've explained why I didn't, although I did consider it as I had a job offer down there.

Originally posted by theflyingfish

London a ****hole?! As opposed to what? I don't think so.


You're entitled to your opinion; and I'm entitled to my opinion.

London is dirty, noisy, crime-ridden, vastly overcrowded and full of chancers on the make - people who are so busy trying to make money for themselves they lose all sight of other people's needs. That equates to my idea of hell on earth, hence it's a s***hole.

I wouldn't care if I could earn a shedload of money in London - there is NO WAY I'd live there. There are many more important things in life than making money.

StarSparkle

I didn't take advantage of my degree subject ,as to be honest it was alot more boring than it sounds, but that doesn't mean I didn't take advantage of my degree. Surely. the attainment of a degree is as much a testament as to an individual's level of cognitive capability as to their ability to work in their subject area - transferable skills people.

Originally posted by theflyingfish
Fair enough - but this thread, and my original post was about students who don't have the same priorites as you. My question is, why do so many studens not take advantage of the things that you have done?

Didn't really mean to turn this thread into a general "is London better than Sheffield" debate


I think lots of students do move onto other cities for their careers. I did my degree in Sheffield, moved away after my degree and lived in 2 other cities before I returned to Sheffield.

Why return? Because Sheffield is a decent city, the country side is near, the journey to work is less hassle than other cities I have worked in. I got offered a good job. The house prices although scary and there is mad system on buying house - still not as scary as other places. Oh and I had fallen in love with a guy who lived here.

Obviously people will stay after studying because they have made Sheffield their home, got a decent job (yes there are decent jobs in Sheffield which pay very well), got a good social life and enjoy the city and its surroundings. That has to be good for the city doesn't it?

Originally posted by StarSparkle
London is dirty, noisy, crime-ridden, vastly overcrowded and full of chancers on the make - people who are so busy trying to make money for themselves they lose all sight of other people's needs. That equates to my idea of hell on earth, hence it's a s***hole.

StarSparkle

A bit of a generalisation don't you think? Who's said that everything is motivayted by money? I talked about opportunities in my field (which is socially based by the way), not opportunities to make money for myself, I am motivated by other things than personal finance. You're the one who keeps banging on about money, not me!


At least it's not full of flat caps and whippets.
:wink:

Ambitious people are tedious, pleasure-hating maniacs. Maybe people stay in Sheffield because of reasons other than work. It could happen, you know.

Originally posted by lazyfish
Ambitious people are tedious, pleasure-hating maniacs. .

what b*ll*cks. Give me the company of people who know what they want to do with their lives over people who have no drive or ambition to change or improve themselves any day of the week!

Originally posted by lazyfish
Ambitious people are tedious, pleasure-hating maniacs.

What a bizarre thing to say. I'm incredibley ambitious...mostly because I have worked so hard for my qualifications. When I graduate I am determined to make a lot of money and be in a job that I love. But that doesn't mean I neglect other things in my life! I am ambitious but my career doesn't mean more than my relationship for example.

Me and my boyfriend are planning on moving to London some time after we graduate because there will be so much work for us both there. Not straight away though because I doubt we would be able to afford it. We don't plan on staying in London long, maybe just a few years, as I know I would find it quite alienating. We just want to make a bit of money while we are young. I don't think that makes us maniacs :loopy:

I consider myself ambitious, but I have always put my happiness first. If at all possible, I plan to stay in the north, within easy reach of Sheffield and Liverpool. My closest friends are here and the prospect of moving to London to be quite isolated doesn't appeal. Having known a lot of people who have moved there over the only to return after many unhappy years; I don't want to do the same. I may be wrong, but I've realised that London is a very hard place to be if you have no contacts there.

I was at shef uni...graduated 2003....and still here! Leaving soon though, maybe I'll post on here when I've moved and see whether I regret my decision or not :?

he he! giggles

Bump - for all the new students round here :)

I came to shef for uni in 98, did a degree and settled here. I'm half way through a MSc now but I cant see me leaving sheffield in the near future. From Devon originally but Im coming back to my northern roots as my family are from Bolton and Manchester. Devons great, but theres nothing going on down there. Small town mentality and all that as well.

Even started to pick the accent oop...

Dave

any of u staring a fresh at hallam uni???
wud b nice 2 find sum1 goin 2 collegiate cres. n make sum frends in advancce!??

Arrived at City College, ( now part of SHU) in 1969, liked the place and have been here ever since. Will I ever qualify as a Sheffielder?

I'm originally from a small Warwickshire town called Atherstone. I arrived in Sheffield in Sept 98 for a Meng mechanical engineering degree, then stayed on for a PhD in 2002. I'm planning to submit my thesis in about two months.

I really like Sheffield because it's a green, friendly city and there's plenty going on. Atherstone is a small market town and whenever I go back there to see my parents I always feel bored within five minutes. I do now class Sheffield as my home, and I feel like an adopted local.

I'm most likely stopping on here for a research associate job for 12 months, then possibly another one after that. I'm not sure I'll be living in Sheffield forever, but I'm planning on stopping here for at least the next 2-3 years.

I agree with the comments that Sheffield has a way of drawing you back. At the start of June I returned here after doing a nine month industrial placement in Turin. When I left I didn't feel too bothered about leaving Sheffield, as I'd been here for six years and I felt that I'd seen it all. Towards the end of the placement I found myself missing here though, and I was glad to return. I can still clearly remember getting a train all the way from Stansted airport on the morning of June 1st. As it approached Sheffield station I took a long deep look at my home that I hadn't seen for nine months. :)

Sorry to be digging old threads, but interesting stats though.
Wasn't born here, but definitely bred here.
I ticked the first option too.

I'm surprised at the high numbers of students who studied here and stayed.... but where are the job opportunities ??

I'm suprised at the results. I feel like an outsider, even though I ticked the first option. :(

I came to uni in Sheffield (THE uni) in 2004 and will graduate in 2008 when I'll be moving on to do a masters, just because Sheffield doesn't offer what I want to do. But to be honest even if it did I'd have to move on anyway because Sheffield doesn't really have the opportunities in the field I want to work in (big museums and art galleries). I really like Sheffield so will be sad to move on, but its just not the place for me to be long term, that said, I'm not looking forward to probably having to move to London for a while to get some work experience, I'm hoping I can get some museum experience up north!

I flew to Sheffield in 1985 to attend Sheff Poly. I moved from yeeeeeee-hhhaaarrrrr Matlock. I had never been to Sheffield before.

I went in the letting office opposite the Poly main entrance and said "I want to rent a room in a house"

It was a week before term start.. they said "Fox Street, Pitsmoor £8 a week"
Hurrah!

A year of walking past "Greasy Vera's" van on the way home from the pub/Rebels... :banana:

Since then, I have moved house 17 times in Sheffield

Mr Spruce Goose

Apparently (and this fact might be outdated), outside of London, Sheffield retains more grads than any other city. As one who moved here in 2000 for my degree at Hallam, and I'm now working at the 'Opposition', I would hate to leave Sheff. Lived in South Africa, Cambridge and London (28 addresses in all), and I feel like Sheff is my home. I can never describe why, but it just is!

I came to THE Uni (;) ), left when I graduated but just had to come back! Love it here!!!
I'm now sampling the delights of the 'other' uni. I guess I'm just a glutton for punishment :hihi:

"THE" uni right here too baby! Wish more of my mates stayed on here tho...

Sheffield is a mint place to be...long may it continue!

I came here to go to Sheffield Hallam in 2001 to do BSc Computing Visualisation, I graduated last year and I've just stayed here. I also applied to Sheffield uni and got accepted but I turned them down, because Hallam has a far better reputation in my area of interest.

For everyone on here who says THE Uni - you're a bunch of stuck up ***** :loopy:

For everyone on here who says THE Uni - you're a bunch of stuck up ***** :loopy:

Ah, but I've been to both... It's probably a case of rose-tinted specs in my case:hihi:

Ah, but I've been to both... It's probably a case of rose-tinted specs in my case:hihi:

TBH I can't stand idiots from 'THE' lovl Uni who think they can look down on people who CHOSE go to Hallam. Its extremely arrogant and pretentious.

I'm doing an open university course, so am i classed as a student? :confused:

For everyone on here who says THE Uni - you're a bunch of stuck up ***** :loopy:


Hey i'm studying at THE Open University :)

Hi, I'm in my final year at Sheffield uni and love it : ) I'm from Northumberland but I'm staying next year, if not longer. I think it's a beautiful and vibrant city x x x

Hmm, technically my vote is wrong - I just realised! I voted that I attend Sheffield Uni (which I do) but it was actually Hallam which brought me here. I did a year of a degree there and now I'm on my 2nd year of my degree at Sheffield Uni. So I've seen both sides of the student experience of the two uni's and I think they're pretty different!

Can't decide which I prefer more in terms of experience and people, I've obviously met a load of different people from both... I think I had the most fun at Hallam but that was my first year so I can't really judge from that.... :)

I live here permanently (ie don't go home to parents for 'holidays') I love Sheffield and definately wouldn't mind staying here but I'm open to going anywhere really. I get itchy feet and get bored of surroundings easily! However I can see sheffield drawing me back as I love the place

EDIT: just saw your comments sayloubay - there's a lot of inverted snobbery from Hallam you know too. The amount of times I'm called stuck up before anyone's even spoken to me!... They wouldn't have said that if they'd met in my first yr at hallam would they!! I have mates from both uni's that can happily hang out together - the majority of people don't seem to care what uni others are from. The whole idea seems mad to me having been at both and seeing a similar amount of idiots and fantastic people from both
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EDIT: just saw your comments sayloubay - there's a lot of inverted snobbery from Hallam you know too. The amount of times I'm called stuck up before anyone's even spoken to me!... They wouldn't have said that if they'd met in my first yr at hallam would they!! I have mates from both uni's that can happily hang out together - the majority of people don't seem to care what uni others are from. The whole idea seems mad to me having been at both and seeing a similar amount of idiots and fantastic people from both
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I went to Hallam for four years and had mates at both. Never really thought there was any rivalry (there wasn't when I was studying).

However, now when I meet people who went to 'THE' Uni and I tell them I went to Hallam they always take the pis* saying it's not a proper Uni and that 'THE' Uni is better. It really winds me up. I have no time for these dull small minded arrogant idiots.

Yeah it's stupid really as there are so many courses at Hallam that you can't get at sheff uni. Stupid to compare the two in terms of courses, for that reason. And I'm sure plenty of people at Hallam could go to sheffield uni if they wanted to.

I'm from a medium sized town in North West Leicestershire and ended up at Sheffield Uni after being turned down by Bristol. I have no regrets now that this is where I ended up.

I love the city, the people, the uni and the lifestyle and before you say anything I am not the stereotypical student who sleeps in until midday, watches soaps and gets ****** at house parties every other night.

Since Christmas, I have been getting up between 8 and 9 on a daily basis due to the demands of my course and working my arse off. Whether I come out with a great paying job is not my main concern, it will be the overwhelming sense of achievement for me when I do pass my course (I study computer science by the way) after all the hard work I will have put in. That's why I am glad I have come here and am doing a challenging course rather than a "Mickey Mouse" course that would give me a warrant to be a stereotypical student.

Hope you enjoy reading my reply!
How amusing of you to label other peoples courses as 'mickey mouse' courses, whilst I am sure computer science is challenging enough, so are all courses....ps you might have a bit more fun if you acted a little more like the typical student....:headbang::headbang::headbang:

:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

'Mickey Mouse' courses!!!!!!! - this is my exact point - this small minded, stuck up, arrogant, pretentious attitude that certain Sheff Uni students have about anything that might be slightly different to what they know.

:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

I agree, I wonder if sheffield fox has studied looking into these 'mickey mouse' courses and understood what it takes to pass one...i sense not!

Yeah it's stupid really as there are so many courses at Hallam that you can't get at sheff uni. Stupid to compare the two in terms of courses, for that reason. And I'm sure plenty of people at Hallam could go to sheffield uni if they wanted to.


Which is why I'm now at Hallam! I have to say my faculty couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery though :)



'Mickey Mouse' courses!!!!!!! - this is my exact point - this small minded, stuck up, arrogant, pretentious attitude that certain Sheff Uni students have about anything that might be slightly different to what they know.

:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

You can do mickey mouse courses at either of the universities, so it's not necessarily Sheff Uni snobbery...

I agree, I wonder if sheffield fox has studied looking into these 'mickey mouse' courses and understood what it takes to pass one...i sense not!

I went to Sheffield Hallam and can say hand on heart that anybody could pass the course I did with very little effort.

Example- the course (Surveying) involved a key module - Valuation. But, the girl who was mathmatically dyslexic was excused from this. Now a surveyor who cant at least understand the basics of valuation isnt much good. But in this namby pamby dont exclude anyone world, nobody could say to her 'you picked the wrong course - do the module or leave'.

I had course mates who cut & pasted every bit of coursework and got their degrees.

The problem is uni's are more interested now in making money from their private research. They accept anyone on to the courses to get the cash from the government.

Sheffield (not Sheffeild) is a friendly place and I know of dozens of graduates who stay here after completing their studies. Maybe you should look at yourself , perhaps you dont relate or interact well with people. Perhaps you are used to the more middle class aspects of Chester (nice place by the way) I think you will fit right in in London.

Good Luck!
So the fact that Dylan_61 has had his house and car broken into several times, his car scratched, is all down to him 'not relating or interacting well with people'. This all happened because of the pond life who live nearby. And your tactless response surely gave him another reason to get away.