The grand total of 17,066

How many Watford fans made the trip up ?

Just read this post on the SWFC forum Owlstalk, a great post that sums up the situation.

Today we saw the lowest league crowd at Hillsborough in six years, at a time when the team is actually performing surprisingly well, currently lying in a play-off place. Everyone knows about the credit crunch right now, people just can't afford to pay the prices that SWFC are currently charging -

£29 South Stand
£27 North Stand
£24 Kop

These prices are just unacceptable, even more so considering they're a 13% increase on last years prices. The board have made so many mistakes, but surely they have to see they've made yet another one, the prices are too high and the club is suffering as a result. Reduce the prices by £5 in all areas and you'll get 5,000 fans back guaranteed.

You did it for the last game of the season against Norwich, £10 all round, and there was a sell-out, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work it out. The credit crunch, and competition from cross town (who charge 20% less) means that ticket prices have to be lowered NOW.

I'm a season ticket holder and I would stand to lose out if it happened, but I for one wouldn't mind if it meant an extra 5,000 Owls going through the turnstiles every week.

Sad but true. :( This is another reason why I'd sooner go to the lane with Farmkid/Farmgirl than Hillsborough on mi tod. I just can't afford to pay out that amount when they might not even win. Add to that the continuing uncertainty of this takeover and you've yet another owls fan who won't be swapping his armchair for a seat on the Wednesday kop anytime in the near future. :(

lol blunts go ahead and laugh about attendances, you'll find most owls are laughing with you! This situation is now getting rather ridiculous and the greedy board need to see it sooner than later.

17000 is barely half (or not even half) the capacity, isn't it?

Surely even the Owls board can work out that halving the price and doubling the sales would be a good move? :huh:

is there even anyone there that can do owt till the takeover is done? £5 less and yes i think we would get around 5k fans back maybe, i dont see anything being done this season though so i think we will have to put up with these attendances. i do still think it isnt a bad attendance to be getting with whats going on at the club but cheaper prices and we could get much more:(

Surely even the Owls board can work out that halving the price and doubling the sales would be a good move? :huh:

You'd think so......

Halving the prices would be a little bit excessive. Don't forget we are heavily in debt.

But what that poster on Owlstalk suggested, that we at least lower our prices to match our neighbours ( ;) ) then we might see a significant increase in attendances.

You'd think so......

Halving the prices would be a little bit excessive.


If it brings in 34,000 instead of 17,000, it would not. You've have exactly the same amount of money coming through the door.

But you're right; they could probably cut the prices to 25/20/17 and get a vast increase in crowds.

halving the prices is a big risk, theres no guarantee we would double the numbers. i do think £15 on the kop and tthe same difference in price they have for the other stands would get more fans in

+ all the extra pies, drinks, programs etc,

its result's that count not attendances

hangs head in shame.... :(

i must admit i didnt go today...:rant:

i had to work...:rant:

beat me if you must.... :help:

its result's that count not attendances

Ultimately, it's the balance sheet that counts; if a club is insolvent, it goes out of business.

The objective for Wednesday - as for all clubs - has to be to take in as much money from gate receipts as possible. Seems to me they'd take in more, if they lowered prices; it worked as a one-off at £10, why not try it on a regular basis at £15?

The grand total of 17,066

How many Watford fans made the trip up ?cb what how many did we score today how many did watford score let me help you.sheffield wednesday 2 watford 0.i think you have a thing us mate tell me your size and ill get you an owl top you can wear it on sly while your on computer your all ways looking our facts up. ive got a fact for you 13/9/08 wednesday above utd haha

Why is a blade starting a thread about the Owls???
Bitter:huh:

Why is a blade starting a thread about the Owls???


Same reason that quite a few alleged Owls fans start threads about the Blades. They're as thick as each other.

Why is a blade starting a thread about the Owls???
Bitter:huh:

nothing for them to shout about today (just our attendance):shocked: :huh:

Why is a blade starting a thread about the Owls???
Bitter:huh:

It happens alot, you'll get used to it.

Why is a blade starting a thread about the Owls???
Bitter:huh:look what it says......................................

look what it says......................................

Im quite capable of reading what it says,an O Level in english helped me along the way
Im just amused that on a day when we won and the blades lost and we went above them in the table despite all our troubles that one of them is so bitter/jealous that he hits upon something so trivial as our attendance
Us die harders were there and are still celebrating:D

Im quite capable of reading what it says,an O Level in english helped me along the way
Im just amused that on a day when we won and the blades lost and we went above them in the table despite all our troubles that one of them is so bitter/jealous that he hits upon something so trivial as our attendancesorry mate thats what im sayin. cb send me your shirt size ill get you nice blue an white shirt

sorry mate thats what im sayin. cb send me your shirt size ill get you nice blue an white shirt

Sorry mate,took it the wrong way:thumbsup:

Stop being daft and talk about the real stuff we just kicked watfords arse and are in a great position, Jermaine Johnson in my opinion deserves the fans to turn up he is **** hot.

Stop being daft and talk about the real stuff we just kicked watfords arse and are in a great position, Jermaine Johnson in my opinion deserves the fans to turn up he is **** hot.donet forget about dutch guy carnt spell his name ejis when soji back what a link up them 3 will be

And Jeffers simek beevers its looking up COME ON U WEDNESDAY IVE HAD A RIGHT DAY AND STILL AM LOL.

when we have cheap days at BDTBL the ground is packed to the rafters. It's 10 quid anywhere in the ground and either a quid or a fiver for the kids. we have 5 or 6 of these a season. look at our attendancies last season. i think we had the best averages in the division. surely its better to have a full ground paying half price than a half empty one paying full price? take a look S6?

when we have cheap days at BDTBL the ground is packed to the rafters. It's 10 quid anywhere in the ground and either a quid or a fiver for the kids. we have 5 or 6 of these a season. look at our attendancies last season. i think we had the best averages in the division. surely its better to have a full ground paying half price than a half empty one paying full price? take a look S6?

Agree with you pal.

SWFC seriously need to look into getting our supporters back into their seats.

Increasing prices during a poor economic climate is not the way to do this!

top quality attendance today,no hassle getting served,like norwich game,all plastic owls have disapeared back to find other things to do come saturday....

, Jermaine Johnson in my opinion deserves the fans to turn up he is **** hot.

He lives about erm 10 meters from my front door and is a really nice guy too. Was having a kick about with the kids on the street a few weeks ago - not sure what Laws would think about it tho!

As long as he doesn't get injured coopster, I'm ok with it!

Us die harders were there and are still celebrating:D


calm down mate you'll do yer sen an injury celebrating doing all this typing.

an idea for you.

go out

Well I say well done to the wednesday fans who did turn up. Thats not to be derogatory to the fans who didn't but in these hard economic times £29 to watch a match is very steep especially if you wish to take the family as well.

The Wednesday board have got to realise that higher prices mean people stay away therefore its in their interest to lower prices to get more bums on seats also it would be like a loyalty thing for the fans who have kept the club going. Instead of constantly beating them down and treating them badly its about time the board gave out a little credit. No fans means no club.

Paul Jewell said this weekend that Derby fans are the most patient in the world. He would do well to take a look at S6 to see some fans who are suffering as well.

£29 to watch a match is very steep
Paul Jewell said this weekend that Derby fans are the most patient in the world. He would do well to take a look at S6 to see some fans who are suffering as well.

its 24 on the kop. fair enough if yer really skint. but how many who moan go down the boozer, smoke etc instead of going to watch their supposed loved team. its a case of priorities. myself if i've got 25 quid to spend the lane comes first above a night down the pub.

and as for poor old suffering s6. they've not had it as bad as us in the past division 4, chairmen being chased by interpol, 3 sided ground (twice) etc. they've won a cup been in europe over spent on world class players and now there paying the price (well 16,500 are) the rest have done one till the good times come back. how many were moaning on here about the price of cardiff play off tkts at 35 quid a go.

£35 for a playoff final is a little different to having to pay out a couple of quid less just for a standard league game isn't it?

The grand total of 17,066

How many Watford fans made the trip up ?

yeah that's two poor attendances so far this season, we need to encourage the fans back.

Watford only brought a few hundred up, pretty much like they do most seasons.

£35 for a playoff final is a little different to having to pay out a couple of quid less just for a standard league game isn't it?


put everybody and his dog went to cardiff. if it had been 50 quid they would pay it. standard league games as you call them are bread and butter games which bring out the bread and butter supporters. that keep the club alive so the big match charlies can come and go as they please.

sorry mate thats what im sayin. cb send me your shirt size ill get you nice blue an white shirt

Good lad I am running short of bog roll

its result's that count not attendances

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Of course it is, and always has been right ? Never been any threads on here about the owls bigger fan base and how the Blades have only just started getting more than us the last few years BLAH BLAH BLAH.

17,000 IS PATHETIC and you know it but dont worry there bound to be at least 25,000 when you play Ipswich :rant:

Will they be lowering ticket prices then? :D

Good lad I am running short of bog rollcb google sheffield utd they the side you follow. you might get some facts about your own side. when you have google the sheffield part you donet put wednesday put utd thats u t d.i bet you made room in your draw for that shirt haha

:hihi::hihi::hihi:
Of course it is, and always has been right ? Never been any threads on here about the owls bigger fan base and how the Blades have only just started getting more than us the last few years BLAH BLAH BLAH

o how so easy it slag supporters off that don"t attend matches. one thing i ate is supporters who slag other teams supporters when they obviously dont attend themselfs. an dont give me that old chest i used to go its about putting ye money wer ye mouth is now. i luv weds that much i cudnt move too another country if i cudnt watch my beloved boys in blue.:rant::thumbsup:

:hihi::hihi::hihi:
Of course it is, and always has been right ? Never been any threads on here about the owls bigger fan base and how the Blades have only just started getting more than us the last few years BLAH BLAH BLAH

o how so easy it slag supporters off that don"t attend matches. one thing i ate is supporters who slag other teams supporters when they obviously dont attend themselfs. an dont give me that old chest i used to go its about putting ye money wer ye mouth is now. i luv weds that much i cudnt move too another country if i cudnt watch my beloved boys in blue.:rant::thumbsup:

He lives in Canada! Dont tell me you wouldnt move abroad if you were offered a brilliant job abroad, just because your a loyal wendy ite :rolleyes: . Shouldnt wendy fans be able to afford the high prices? After all they are from the best parts of Sheffield and are a lot richer than us :) , pfft.

He lives in Canada! Dont tell me you wouldnt move abroad if you were offered a brilliant job abroad, just because your a loyal wendy ite :rolleyes: . Shouldnt wendy fans be able to afford the high prices? After all they are from the best parts of Sheffield and are a lot richer than us :) , pfft.

I live in Gleadless which is prodominently a blade area, the amount of blades fans what don't go to the match round here is quite high, i can imagine its the same for say Parsons cross to be fair, 1 thing i will say is both teams have got there fair share of rough areas surrounding them so i wouldn't really class any of us as more affluant.

I live in Gleadless which is prodominently a blade area, the amount of blades fans what don't go to the match round here is quite high, i can imagine its the same for say Parsons cross to be fair, 1 thing i will say is both teams have got there fair share of rough areas surrounding them so i wouldn't really class any of us as more affluant.

It was sarcasm, most wendy fans go on about us Blades living in the ****holes of Sheffield :rolleyes:

I live in Gleadless which is prodominently a blade area, the amount of blades fans what don't go to the match round here is quite high, i can imagine its the same for say Parsons cross to be fair, 1 thing i will say is both teams have got there fair share of rough areas surrounding them so i wouldn't really class any of us as more affluant.corker mate just another blunt who as nothin to say mate when they team loses or not goin there way they come with spellins or att haha i love it mate it take the smiles of there faces big club haha wednesday till i die win or lose

It was sarcasm, most wendy fans go on about us Blades living in the ****holes of Sheffield :rolleyes:stevieb most utd go on about us live in past but at present 14/9/8 wednesday above your blunts hahaha

stevieb most utd go on about us live in past but at present 14/9/8 wednesday above your blunts hahaha

I refer back to my post on your thread. 5 games played. Its the kind of thing Wendy fans get excited about tbh so have fun ;)

I refer back to my post on your thread. 5 games played. Its the kind of thing Wendy fans get excited about tbh so have fun ;)fun its a fact fun and a fact that on the 14/9/8 sheffield wednesday are the best side in sheffield what do they say the league tells the truth so while it lasts it fun a fact and best off all your lot hate it.

calm down mate you'll do yer sen an injury celebrating doing all this typing.

an idea for you.

go out

Was out all afternoon celebrating matey

Here's an idea for you

Dont be bitter

:hihi::hihi::hihi:
Of course it is, and always has been right ? Never been any threads on here about the owls bigger fan base and how the Blades have only just started getting more than us the last few years BLAH BLAH BLAH.

17,000 IS PATHETIC and you know it but dont worry there bound to be at least 25,000 when you play Ipswich :rant:

Did your lot ever get 17,000 when you were struggling???

fun its a fact fun and a fact that on the 14/9/8 sheffield wednesday are the best side in sheffield what do they say the league tells the truth so while it lasts it fun a fact and best off all your lot hate it.

You're so excitable. :hihi: Do you ever get tired mate as your posts read at about 100mph? :suspect:

i dont care about utd fans slagging our attendances off. when they were struggling at the bottom of the league they got 12k roughly i think, as soon as good times came back their attendances suddenly start going up. we all have fans that will stay away when the club goes through hard times, i'm amazed we still even manage 17k, will stat that way until the board sorts the pricing out amongst other things

Lets be very honest if both teams had lower ticket price , both grounds would be full on match days!!

as it is both teams will always get up and down attendance -thats football at any ground in england

Was out all afternoon celebrating matey

Here's an idea for you

Dont be bitter


celebrating all afternoon lol lol

the match finished at nearly 5. and you was on here gloating not much later.

how did you celebrate mate.

corker mate just another blunt who as nothin to say mate when they team loses or not goin there way they come with spellins or att haha i love it mate it take the smiles of there faces big club haha wednesday till i die win or lose

see you've ignored my post of a wager between me and thee.

come on then. money where your mouth is 100 notes who finishes highest.

celebrating all afternoon lol lol

the match finished at nearly 5. and you was on here gloating not much later.

how did you celebrate mate.

Well i did a fair bit of celebrating at the game:hihi:
Then did a wee bit of celebrating in shaky
A bit more in Ball
A bit more in Malin

How did you celebrate?:P

Well i did a fair bit of celebrating at the game:hihi:
Then did a wee bit of celebrating in shaky
A bit more in Ball
A bit more in Malin

How did you celebrate?:P

went to a birthday bash last night pal. got home about 3ish had a good one.

could'nt see the computer never mind post on it.

win or lose i'll have some booze

and if we draw i'll have some more :thumbsup:

I live in Gleadless which is prodominently a blade area, the amount of blades fans what don't go to the match round here is quite high, i can imagine its the same for say Parsons cross to be fair, 1 thing i will say is both teams have got there fair share of rough areas surrounding them so i wouldn't really class any of us as more affluant.

what are you trying to say corks ? :o :D

o how so easy it slag supporters off that don"t attend matches. one thing i ate is supporters who slag other teams supporters when they obviously dont attend themselfs. an dont give me that old chest i used to go its about putting ye money wer ye mouth is now. i luv weds that much i cudnt move too another country if i cudnt watch my beloved boys in blue.:rant::thumbsup:

Going to need a translator on these pages soon ...

Good to see you back posting ticklemeelmo, wendy must have won yesterday and United lost, seems to be the only time we see you :gag:

what are you trying to say corks ? :o :D

Sorry Mac didn't mean it to come out like that lol :hihi:
nowt wrong with the cross m8 its pretty similar to Gleadless :thumbsup:

There's good roads and bad roads in both areas, usually down to a couple of problem families making trouble for everyone else.

I live in Longley and there seems to be a fair bit of Wednesday around here, with a light sprinkling of Blades. :)

There's good roads and bad roads in both areas, usually down to a couple of problem families making trouble for everyone else.

I live in Longley and there seems to be a fair bit of Wednesday around here, with a light sprinkling of Blades. :)

a light sprinkling of blades. plenty of blades i know live in longley. do you live on longley farm.

I've been asked that before, but it's a no. :)

I've been asked that before, but it's a no. :)

lived in longley myself over 30 years. plenty of blades round here. run many a coach from the timber top up the road to games.

I've not lived here quite a year yet. I guess I need to look around more and being completely honest I'd forgotten about the Timbertop, that's more Shirecliffe though isn't it?

I thought the timbertop was in Shirecliffe?

I've not lived here quite a year yet. I guess I need to look around more and being completely honest I'd forgotten about the Timbertop, that's more Shirecliffe though isn't it?


yes its shirecliffe thats why i said " up the road" have to have a pub for a base when running coaches. the devonshires nearest but we've always used the timbers. we have run buses from the dev as well but not as much.

Shocking attendance today.

But when you consider:

Season Tickets up 13%
Programs up 20%
Food and Drinks up 20-30%
An absolutely crap season last season
A lack of investment in the team

it all adds up to price it out of some peoples reach, especially in the current economic climate, and gives no 'floating' supporter an insentive to come back.

I even considered not renewing my season ticket - but I woke up in the end!!!

The board at Hillsborough aren't stupid, so I'm guessing there is some other motive behind these price increases etc.

Just hope they get it right.

The board at Hillsborough aren't stupid, so I'm guessing there is some other motive behind these price increases etc.

Just hope they get it right.What other motive could there be? I'm not saying the board are stupid but there seems no real sense in pricing people out of the ground when what you really need is bums on seats

What other motive could there be? I'm not saying the board are stupid but there seems no real sense in pricing people out of the ground when what you really need is bums on seats

What I mean is (and I'm no expert on this) it may look more attractive to potential buyers to say:

"Hillsborough holds 40,000, and the price our fans currently pay is an average of £25 a ticket"

rather than

"Hillsborough holds 40,000, and the price our fans currently pay is an average of £20 a ticket"

It's all spin and it doesn't reflect actual attendances, but that kind of thing is the only reason I can think to explain why they would impose such ridiculous price increases.

It wasn't a great turn out, but Wigan are a Premier League team and they only get 18,000. Fans do come and go, but I agree that Wednesday should lower their prices a bit.

What I mean is (and I'm no expert on this) it may look more attractive to potential buyers to say:

"Hillsborough holds 40,000, and the price our fans currently pay is an average of £25 a ticket"

rather than

"Hillsborough holds 40,000, and the price our fans currently pay is an average of £20 a ticket"

It's all spin and it doesn't reflect actual attendances, but that kind of thing is the only reason I can think to explain why they would impose such ridiculous price increases.Which does make sense but the reality is what the accounts actually say and that is the ground can hold 38000? and currently less than 20000 people are willing to pay the prices we charge. Therefore you would think the board would be smart enough to think that they have premiership prices but fans don't see a premiership club and stay away accordingly. It would surely make better sense to charge less and fill more seats?

As you say its all spin and what do we know?

this really is a daft debate, both teams are ****e

Which does make sense but the reality is what the accounts actually say and that is the ground can hold 38000? and currently less than 20000 people are willing to pay the prices we charge. Therefore you would think the board would be smart enough to think that they have premiership prices but fans don't see a premiership club and stay away accordingly. It would surely make better sense to charge less and fill more seats?

As you say its all spin and what do we know?

It is pretty expensive but when you consider its usually a home game a fortnight or at best 2, im sure a lot of us like to go out drinking and whatever else.
If people can find the cash to go out then why don't people swop 1 of there nights out for a day out?
Id rather stay in as u cant smoke in boozers anyway now, at least u can do what u want in the comfort of your own home.
I wouldn't swop the match for nowt its a religion for some men.
Even when i got banned i was there in spirit lol.

It is pretty expensive but when you consider its usually a home game a fortnight or at best 2, im sure a lot of us like to go out drinking and whatever else.
If people can find the cash to go out then why don't people swop 1 of there nights out for a day out?
Id rather stay in as u cant smoke in boozers anyway now, at least u can do what u want in the comfort of your own home.
I wouldn't swop the match for nowt its a religion for some men.
Even when i got banned i was there in spirit lol.And you're right but its not just the ticket is it? Its the pint or two before the game, the transport costs, parking costs, programme, pie, bovril it all mounts up and then thats just for you. What if you have a child or two or three? You could be looking at £100+ its not just wednesday that are guilty of it. If you consider that realistically what you are paying for is 90-95 minutes of entertainment then it does mount up. Where will the next generation of fans come from if their parent can't afford to take them?

And you're right but its not just the ticket is it? Its the pint or two before the game, the transport costs, parking costs, programme, pie, bovril it all mounts up and then thats just for you. What if you have a child or two or three? You could be looking at £100+ its not just wednesday that are guilty of it. If you consider that realistically what you are paying for is 90-95 minutes of entertainment then it does mount up. Where will the next generation of fans come from if their parent can't afford to take them?

Your right there m8 it really gets my back up seeing all young uns on street on saturdays, they just simply havent got the means to go to the matches.
Id say a good 70% of lads and lasses what wanna go to the match don't which is really really sad.
Im only 27 but when i was going in the late 80s early 90s on my own my add lol, i can remember it being a fiver which for the time was very reasonable and you saw the likes of man utd Liverpool Arsenal week in week out.
I feel for the young uns more than us adults to be honest.

It is pretty expensive but when you consider its usually a home game a fortnight or at best 2, im sure a lot of us like to go out drinking and whatever else.
If people can find the cash to go out then why don't people swop 1 of there nights out for a day out?
Id rather stay in as u cant smoke in boozers anyway now, at least u can do what u want in the comfort of your own home.
I wouldn't swop the match for nowt its a religion for some men.
Even when i got banned i was there in spirit lol.


everyones different and prioritys are different. i'm like you football comes first in my leisure time. and i make sure i've got the match money every 2 weeks. my mrs smokes 20 a day thats 35 quid a week 70 quid a fortnight. my 2 kids have just bought 2 tickets to see some crappy rapper at the arena =70 quid puts my 20 odd quid for the lane once a fortnight into perspective. when i go for a pint i get blokes blades and pigs telling me "they cant afford to go anymore and its priceing the workingman out" whilst supping 10 pints smoking fags going for an end of night currie and a taxi home. some people are genuine but a lot use it as an excuse.

Going to need a translator on these pages soon ...

Good to see you back posting ticklemeelmo, wendy must have won yesterday and United lost, seems to be the only time we see you :gag:

unlike you pal i"m a busy man, what with working, an family an what was that other think i did? o yes i go too watch the boys in blue unlike a certain person that spends all is time on the computer slagging weds fans off.(is"nt that so easy too do?0 its a good job the blunts have been on telly a couple of times this year you can actually talk about the match. not thers alot too talk about.:D:gag:

I guess they could always stop smoking. :D 20 a day for a month is roughly £171, just think how many matches that would get you. :D

It wasn't a great turn out, but Wigan are a Premier League team and they only get 18,000. Fans do come and go, but I agree that Wednesday should lower their prices a bit.

The JJB doesn't hold as much, and Wigan is still predominantly Rugby League country. It's only Whelan's £££££ which have brought them that sort of attendance, though I do understand your point.

I was amazed when I saw the prices for Hellsbore; daylight robbery. I do honestly feel for the genuine fans.

Minimum adult price is a tenner more at Hillsborough. It all mounts up and for alot of folks it's not just the cost, more the principle that they're watching a club of roughly the same standard as across town (I know that's debateable but we're in the same division) but for £10 more. It simply isn't fair and it needs to change.

Minimum adult price is a tenner more at Hillsborough.


where do you get that from?

the kop at the sty is 24 i believe.

at the lane we have 4 category's A*, A, B, and C.

on the kop at the lane its.

A* £26

A £22

B £16

C £10

theres about 3 or 4 cat C's in a season

rest of the stadium cat A* is £30, A £26, B £20 C £10.

i reckon it works out much the same. i've noticed the last few times i've watched the blades at yours its always been cheeper. it was £21 last season at yours opposed to £28 at ours. this season i will have to pay £24 to sit on the leppings but at the lane on the bramall lane upper i will pay £30.

The JJB doesn't hold as much, and Wigan is still predominantly Rugby League country. It's only Whelan's £££££ which have brought them that sort of attendance, though I do understand your point.

Load a rubbish Whealan has put nothing like most other chairman in the premiership actually, they are just a very well run club.
Wigan remind me of Blackburn when they became a prominet premiership club every1 saying its the chairman who pumped the team up when it was also the younger players, cheap buys, frees, and fans which helped towards it.
Ask any Blackburn fan the turmoil the late Jack Walker left them in financialy.

Load a rubbish Whealan has put nothing like most other chairman in the premiership actually, they are just a very well run club.
Wigan remind me of Blackburn when they became a prominet premiership club every1 saying its the chairman who pumped the team up when it was also the younger players, cheap buys, frees, and fans which helped towards it.
Ask any Blackburn fan the turmoil the late Jack Walker left them in financialy.

Which is .... er .... mixed up.

Whelan spent fortunes getting Wigan away from the decrepit heap which was Springfield Park, and into the JJB. He bought his way through the league, but my point was just that.

Without Whelan's £££££ they'd still be averaging 2000 in a fleapit of a ground.

its result's that count not attendances

And how did you like tonights result :hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi::hihi:

cb what how many did we score today how many did watford score let me help you.sheffield wednesday 2 watford 0.i think you have a thing us mate tell me your size and ill get you an owl top you can wear it on sly while your on computer your all ways looking our facts up. ive got a fact for you 13/9/08 wednesday above utd haha

R2D2-C3PO or whatever it is you call yourself....
How many did you score tonight...Let me help you
0 - Nil - zero - zilch - nada - none -
And how many did Reading score let me help you 6 - SIX- SEIS- LOTS :hihi:
Tell me your shirt size and I'll send you a Derby County shirt over so you can wear it when they come to BDTBL.
I've got a fact 16/9/08 Blades above pigs haha

If blades had been through the same as what we have over the last few years there isn't a chance in hell they would get any better attenaces, we're luck to be getting 10k to be honest and its only going to get worse, i got sick of it a few years ago and just pick and choose the odd game now and again now, too expensive, too depressing, and i dont like feeling as though i have had my pants down everytime i go to my beloved hillsborough.

I respect uptmost the fans who go week in week out, but i refuse and they go down in my list of prioties day by day unfortunatley.

Still love them 100x more than the 10k or so blades who have suddenly realised they play at bramall lane once a fortnight over the last 3 years.

Well he was asking for that. :hihi: Don't dish it out if you can't take it back dc1 mate. Let's see if he comes out of the woodwork to reply eh. :)

If blades had been through the same as what we have over the last few years there isn't a chance in hell they would get any better attenaces, we're luck to be getting 10k to be honest and its only going to get worse, i got sick of it a few years ago and just pick and choose the odd game now and again now, too expensive, too depressing, and i dont like feeling as though i have had my pants down everytime i go to my beloved hillsborough.

I respect uptmost the fans who go week in week out, but i refuse and they go down in my list of prioties day by day unfortunatley.

Still love them 100x more than the 10k or so blades who have suddenly realised they play at bramall lane once a fortnight over the last 3 years.

I think its fair to say that United have had a few problems over the years. Im my life I've seen them go from first division to the 4th in 5 years, have several chairmen jailed for corruption,
nearly got taken over by an Iraq business man who turned into a woman and who was rumoured to be backed by Saddam Hussain,
knocked a stand down without having the money to rebuild it,
sold our two best strikers on the same day whilst top of the league,
Bryan Robson,
brought a player for a million who played a grand total of 45 minutes, Adrian Heath,
West Ham cheating
I could go on for days.

My point is that in the past both clubs have had their moments of being well run and badly run and at the moment United are been well run, we survived the ITV digital fiasco pretty much intact unlike a lot of clubs around that time and have grown since then.
There is an entire generation of kids growing up in Sheffield who see United as the bigger club.
I do feel sorry for Wendy, I worked a fair few games last season on the Kop and it's plain to see that the ground is old and tatty and needs a lot of investment which isn't going to happen until somebody takes over.