hi guys,
my five year old rotti went in for spaying last week and i was suprised at how well she took to the anesthetic etc,
anyway, the following day she was licking her scar like mad and has the vet had not provided a head collor all i could do was keep telling her to stop n muzzling her for short times.
on friday she managed to pull the stitches out of the wound so i took her back to the vet where she had a head collor fitted and this time the vet stapled her stomach with metal staples:gag:,
yesterday, even though wearing the collor the staples fell out and there is a massive hole in her stomach where all her guts and things are on display:gag::gag:.
took her back to the vets who have now kept her in but were really horrible to me saying i am wasting their time and money and that hsould my dogs guts drop onto the floor i will lose her,
i was so upset at her attitude that i burst into tears:confused: as i thought i had done the best for my dog.
can anyone tell me if this kind of thing has happened before{the stitches coming out} and how does a person fix it,
as lola had a c secton two years ago will this be harder to heal and is their any chance she may die from this.
once again i;m getting no sleep from worrying about it and sem to be having a real run of bad luck with my doggies at the minute:(

Crikey - I can't believe the vet's attitude. Was that just the vet nurse? surely not the vet. Where was it?

This CAN happen. Its one of the reasons we hate to spay bitches if they are in kennels, even though we want them spaying before they go to their new homes.

Bitches can eat their whole insides out - if they are either in pain or uncomfortable or they just don't like it. Females can die after a spay. Don't get me wrong - its not the norm - but I know of 2 that have. So I am real surprised at the vet's attitude - you have done right taking her back all the time.

Hopefully they will manage to stitch her up more comfortably? I have also known that things have been left inside, which is why the dogs chew - so lets hope thats a good operation. Maybe that they will let her out and keep her on EXTREMELY strong pain killers and knock her out until it starts to knit back together a bit more and isn't as uncomfortable.

Best thing is to bathe with salt water, and keep her with someone at all times.
Good luck - poor you two

I have heard of this before and as rain as said i have heard of a bitch eating her insides and pulling everything out as they did not have a collar on.

I however think the way you were treated is wrong and a bit more understanding and patience should have been shown towards you.

I hope Lola is ok and the vets can sort the problems out. You have had so much happen lately Ruth thinking of you x

Why on earth did the vet not supply you with a collar for your girlie? not just at the time you went to collect her, but at the first and second times you had to take her back!!?? I'm appalled.

Trix went to be spayed and had her hernia repair in June:- when I went to collect her after the op, they actually brought her out to me, with a "buster collar" on, to pre-empt any chance of her gnawing at her wound.

And for crying out loud, even for a rotty, it would only put about a fiver on the cost of the op, to the client, to supply them with a Buster collar (trix had a middling sized one, which was about £3.90)

Aw hun, hope Lola is ok.

From what I know in general (from my own operations, not dogs) tissue that has previously scarred can be harder to heal.

You do risk infections and scepticemia (sp?) when stitches come out, particularly the internal stitches but as above, the vet should've treated you with far more understanding and provided you with a buster collar.

Perhaps with stitches and a buster collar you'll be ok as you say the staples came out themselves? Do you have a crate for her? We saw a few animals come back into the vets with problems with their stitches/wounds because the owners hadn't managed to stop them jumping around so I'd recommend making sure she remains very still once she has been fixed up again.

Good luck :( Sorry to hear you've had such a hard time. Big hugs to Lola x

Thinking about the open letter to the woman in the pdsa, am i right in thinking that's where Lola was taken? If so, I'm concerned, as Tilly is going there for spaying tomorrow. I was assuming they'd supply a buster collar so if not, I guess I'm gonna have to call at P@H on the way home and get one. Can't see Blade's fitting her :hihi:

I'm sure they will if you ask for one :) I don't have mine anymore, sorry.

That really is a shocking way to treat you ruth :mad:
There was no need for that at all!

I hope she's finally healing up as she should

When's she due home?

I agree with everyone else it is a shocking way to treat you and also Lola, if it's PDSA I can't say that I'm all that surprised either unfortunately, they are not well known for being polite and friendly.

It's really horrible when these things happen, when little Lucy had her tumours removed she managed to burst her stitches, it was awful so upsetting and frightening, her wound was stapled too, but was ok after that.

I hope that the run of bad luck is over now and Lola makes a speedy recovery.

Thinking about the open letter to the woman in the pdsa, am i right in thinking that's where Lola was taken? If so, I'm concerned, as Tilly is going there for spaying tomorrow. I was assuming they'd supply a buster collar so if not, I guess I'm gonna have to call at P@H on the way home and get one. Can't see Blade's fitting her :hihi:


unfortunatly it was the p d s a who tspayed her.
am in desperate need of a large rottweiler size crate as she is in a right mess.
they have sent her home in an old surgical gown having admitted defeat themselves with the collor.
any one with a large crate going spare for the next week or to please pm me :)
am a bit busy at min so will go into more detail with you all later x

I have a large crate but i don't think it would be large enough for a rotty am sorry Ruth although will have a look at it later and see.

Glad she is coming home.

http://www.petplanet.co.uk/product_group.asp?dept_id=26&pg_id=288

http://shop.pawsitive.co.uk/convalescence-collars-39-c.asp?gclid=CJCmpNWJypUCFR-IlAod-SPIhw

these links show alternative to the buster collar if you wanted to try something different.

adz - if it's alberts, it's probably the right size

I can transport if necessary

Thanks Strix it may be on the tight size if she is a big Rotty though but Ruth is welcome to try.

Adz is out tonight so cannot take it round so if Ruth needs it tonight would you mind taking it over?

She's not that big, so we could give it a go, and besides, I'd suggest a cage that is too small is going to prevent her being able to get at those stitches quite so easily :thumbsup:

can I pick it up in about half an hour to an hour?

can you text me your address please?

I've got Safe4 to douse it in when we get there - belt and braces eh? :)

Hehe was gonna say have you got any of that left as the last one to use it was Ruby who was not that clean although it has been cleaned.

1/2-1hr is fine will drag it out. Shall text my address.

Thanks Strix :) you are a good un

see you in a bit

Ruth - get kettle on :thumbsup:

see you in a bit

Ruth - get kettle on :thumbsup:

cheers strix, once again you are an absolute star.


see ya in a bit x x x

so...........is the crate the right size??

I can't believe the way the vets treated you, i would do the same as you and take her back if i was unsure/unhappy about her healing.

Perhaps a strongly worded letter of complain to the managers may help?

so...........is the crate the right size??

I can't believe the way the vets treated you, i would do the same as you and take her back if i was unsure/unhappy about her healing.

Perhaps a strongly worded letter of complain to the managers may help?



not sure about the crate size has strix and adz have not arrived yet but the vet was awful.
i'm not usually an easy person to offend or make upset as most things tend to just go straight over my head but this vet made me feel like i was the crappest person on the planet.
lola is in a right mess and i am beginning to feel as if i have done the wrong thing getting her spade.
even the vet gave up with the head collor so she is now home without one and just an old surgical gown to keep her from getting at her wounds.
it was just awful being able to see all of her innerds, just a massive hole in her stomach but hopefully its on the mend now:)

pdsa do a wonderful job day in day out and i know they are under alot of stress but to treat patients in the way i have been tret is just plain wrong:(

It's shocking Ruth. I hope they don't treat us like that tomorrow. I even briefly considered cancelling the op and saving for a coupla weeks to go to our usual vet. You've had some really bad luck with your poor girls lately haven't you? How's your little girl doing now?

Maybe you should complain about THAT particular vet?

Why did they give up with the head collar?

Maybe you should complain about THAT particular vet?

Why did they give up with the head collar?


they gave up with the head collor cos they could not keep it on her so how they can have a go at me is anyones guess:confused::)


strix and mr strix have just left and have very very kindly taken lola for the night as i am sure she will get fantastic treatment with them.


speeddemon, please dont cancel your appointment with p d s a i'm sure your girl will be fine just hope you dont get the same vet:confused:


lola is still very poorly but shania{our poodle } has made a great recovery and apart from being blind in one eye is doing fab

thaks so very much strix for all you help advice and just for being a damn good person x x x x

Glad to hear Shania is doing well, and hope Lola is on the mend real soon. I'm not cancelling Tilly's appointment, the vet I saw with her last time for the health check they have to have before booking them in seemed nice enough. I've managed to adjust Blade's collar, so hopefully she will be ok with that on, and I've set up a crate for her in the kitchen for a few days to keep her nice and calm. Well done Strix and Mr Strix, hope everything goes ok with Lola. Isn't it nice to hear of people who help others out? x

Sorry Ruth am guessing the crate was to small. How kind of the strix's to take Lola and keep her safe. Hopefully you will get some sleep Ruth x

U can always count on Strix, if they can help u they will.

I would make a complaint over the vet who dealt with you, they should never treat you like that.

Hope she makes a speedy recovery x

How awful for you and lola, i would have done the same and taken her bck to the vet straight away, common sense surely. I'd put a complaint in against him, sounds like he's in the wrong job! Hope your girl makes a speedy recovery :)

Sorry Ruth am guessing the crate was to small. How kind of the strix's to take Lola and keep her safe. Hopefully you will get some sleep Ruth x
Lola said what she wanted was some company and comfort, and she deffo needs somebody just to remind her not to scratch at her stitches, so she's here for the night whilst ruth gets some kip, and she'll be collected in the morning

I'm currently typing with one hand as the other is full of rottweiler

She's just been out in the garden, but she was trying to tell me she'd like to go home now please. She came bounding back in at the sound of rattling dog biscuits though :D

oh, and we took that smock off, as it seemed to be irritating more than it was helping :thumbsup:

Aww super strix to the rescue! Fancy training my two to behave :hihi:

I hope Lola feels better soon :)

Well done Strix hope she is ok this morning and continues to recover x

She's struggling poor luv, but she's trying soooooo hard to be good :(

She cries to tell you she can't bear not to scratch before she does it :cry:

Not only are her op scars itching, but the stubble from her shaving will be too, and all the stress she's been through (probably starting with life going odd at the time of Shania's injury) has brought her out in eczema :shakes:

To top it all, I found a couple of fleas too - presumably something she's picked up from overnighting at the pdsa, as there was no sign of them at all on Shania when I last visited, and fleas aren't fussy enough to stick to one dog, and you'd spot them a mile off in a thin white puppy coat. She can't be treated for them though as she has too many open sores at the moment!

I'm off to bed

I hope Lola gets more sleep at home this morning than she did here last night. I think she managed lots of half hour naps, but could do with a damned good sleep!

Well she's here again tonight

When I arrived to pick her up she was tons more lively than she has been, and was really pleased to see me :)

she hopped in the car quite happily and was good for the short car journey

She's still quite wary of Mr Strix, but she's keeps making herself comfy near to Brude's cage, so I'm guessing she does actually like the dog company, though I believe she's not usually keen on other dogs. Brude's an absolute star. He'll start digging his bedding about, notice it's making her nervous, and stop :)

She's even been and helped herself to a smoked bone out of his toy box, and he didn't bat an eyelid - like he knew she was ill, and if it makes her feel better then that's fine. He's usually quite stressed at another dog taking bones and chewsticks

poor lass. I'm glad to hear that she's doing better today than she was the other day, and that she's getting lots of TLC from her Mummy, and her Auntie Strix,

(I can't believe how uneventful Trixie's spay was, even with them having to do a hernia repair for her at the same time, and how straightforward her recovery was. Trixie was spayed late June-ish, and she is "right as ninepence" now)

xruthx tried to send you a pm but your box is full. !!

mabsky

thanks mabsky for the crate, lola is now settled n happy...for the time being:)

a massive squishy lump has now appeared and grown around the area where lola has had her stiches so i have booked her in to see peaks vets as a few paople have told me how great they are.
here is hoping we can finally get her sorted:(

Oh ruth you don't have any luck do you? :(

If it makes you feel any better, lumps like that are usually easily treated :)

Big hugs to you and Lola x

Glad she settled a bit, she is such a gentle sweetheart :love:.

Hope all goes well at the vets later. Peak vets are absolutely ace. :)

Well she arrived here again at half ten tonight, had her eczema bathed (which Peak say is actually clipper burn, though the pdsa made ruth feel like it was a massive sign of neglect on her part :suspect: ), had a bit of a scratch which I swiftly restrained, and she's been asleep under the coffee table on fresh towels ever since (well apart from letting Mr Strix stand by the door for a chat for a few mins, and venturing to within 3ft of him before getting nervous and having to be called back :rolleyes: )

Peak also said they've have stitched her internally so none of the palava would have happened in the first place, and the 'swelling' round her stitches is just normal. Had I not been coming down with migrane when I handed her back this morning I'd probably have remembered to point out the swelling and the fact that it looked exactly like Brude's neuter as it healed so was not something I was concerned about, but I'm glad I didn't, coz ruth wouldn't have had her to Peak and had all her fears put to bed :)

... famous last words :rolleyes:

A bout of scratching immediately after I posted that, so she's been out, been bathed in savlon again, had an icepack pressed on it to alleviate the itching, and now she's spark out under the table again :)

strix,
your inbox is full:D trying to pm you.