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pattricia 06-09-2008, 16:05 Keep getting E mails addressed and written in Spanish ( I think) I opened the first one,and it was again in Spanish.I deleted the others withought opening them. Today I got another one headed : info@hi5.com then the title read: Face Rat te ha enviado una invitacion a unirte a un grupo. Can anyone translate this for me, and should I delete it ,before opening ? Who are they, and where are they from ?:huh:
Bikertec 06-09-2008, 16:09 Its called Spam Girl delete it, I get hundreds every day french, german, rusian etc. lol:hihi::hihi::thumbsup:
Hi it say's-Face Rat has sent to you an invitation to join a group. Hope this helps you decide.
pattricia 06-09-2008, 16:34 Its called Spam Girl delete it, I get hundreds every day french, german, rusian etc. lol:hihi::hihi::thumbsup:
I will delete it, but do I keep getting them because I opened the first one ?I think there is section for Spam under my Google Mail, but Google didnt send it to there !:huh:
pattricia 06-09-2008, 16:35 Hi it say's-Face Rat has sent to you an invitation to join a group. Hope this helps you decide.
Skeggy, thanks for translating this E Mail for me. I will delete it without opening it up. Thanks once again !!!!:thumbsup:
Bikertec 06-09-2008, 16:36 I use a spam filter but some still get through, I upset someone some time ago and still get the spam they signed me upto.:hihi::hihi:
pattricia 06-09-2008, 16:39 I use a spam filter but some still get through, I upset someone some time ago and still get the spam they signed me upto.:hihi::hihi:
I thought I had got a spam filter on, but it still got through. Well this is my first Spam in four years,so I havent done too bad. Thanks Bikertec for your help.:thumbsup:
Replying to spam is always good fun, especially if you spoof the sender as them and there just kiddie scripters who don't actually even understand the email protocol.
I recently had a spate of emails informing me I had won the National Lottery, all coming from different 'hotmail' accounts, hmm I wondered if they were real, so I sent a few back asking for details about them. They obviously weren't natural english speakers because they obviously thought they'd hit the jackpot, not me.
pattricia 06-09-2008, 17:16 Replying to spam is always good fun, especially if you spoof the sender as them and there just kiddie scripters who don't actually even understand the email protocol.
I recently had a spate of emails informing me I had won the National Lottery, all coming from different 'hotmail' accounts, hmm I wondered if they were real, so I sent a few back asking for details about them. They obviously weren't natural english speakers because they obviously thought they'd hit the jackpot, not me.
I wouldnt dare do this.! I was told to delete E Mails from anyone I didnt know. They do frighten me a little, as Im wondering where theve got my E mail address from!:suspect:
To find emails you can get a bot and scrape the internet (opens a page, then collects all emails and follows all links, repeating), or you take a domain such as '@gmail.com' and then use the brute force method sending emails to every variation (a, aa, ab, ac, ...). Also many ISP publish email lists similar to phone books, and be careful of details on sites like facebook...
In general when replying, if you don't provide any additional (true) information, especially anything concerning money, then what can they do? I f you do give them some information then (not advising this) use a police commissioners details, so that when they notice, they'll do something about it.
I especially love it when a get marketing calls from the US, I get more information out of them then they do me and generally plant some twisted fantasy in their mind using a little NLP.
Kingmaker2 06-09-2008, 20:08 I thought I had got a spam filter on, but it still got through. Well this is my first Spam in four years,so I havent done too bad. Thanks Bikertec for your help.:thumbsup:
Yep it is possible to not have a spam filter and not get any spam at all.
I've had my ISP email for about 2 years without a single spam and no spam filter on.:)
It's a combination of being careful and a bit of luck.
I never give out my ISP email if I purchase anything from a website, I always give my Yahoo webmail, simarly I only use my Yahoo webmail when registering on websites and forums.
Whatever you do, don't reply to spam because that will just lead to more spam as they know that your e-mail address is a proper live active one, rather than a randomly picked dead or inactive one.
If you actually know how to get the proper e-mail header then you can report this Spanish e-mail to your ISP, who will attempt to blacklist it and prevent it from getting to your inbox in the first place, but like I said you'll need to provide them with the proper e-mail header otherwise they won't be able to help.
Best way to get the 'message headers' is to look at the 'message source' (ctrl + u when using thunderbird)
Depending on what service you use, theres probably a button to block / junk (blacklist) it automatically.
pattricia 06-09-2008, 21:32 Thank you for all your replies. I have never bought anything off the internet, so havent given my E Mail address out there. I have a "report Spam" on GoogleMail so will use that in future.:thumbsup:
Spam filters are useless, cos the spammers have figured out how to get round them.
pattricia 06-09-2008, 21:53 Spam filters are useless, cos the spammers have figured out how to get round them.
It looks like it rich to me.!:(
Ivor&Mel 06-09-2008, 21:54 I thought I had got a spam filter on, but it still got through. Well this is my first Spam in four years,so I havent done too bad. Thanks Bikertec for your help.:thumbsup:
Good grief! You must hold the record for the least spammed person in the Universe! Tell us your secret! :thumbsup:
pattricia 06-09-2008, 22:03 Good grief! You must hold the record for the least spammed person in the Universe! Tell us your secret! :thumbsup:
I dont go on many sites except SF, and have never bought anything off the internet.
RiffRaff 06-09-2008, 22:04 A friend of mine posted this to me recently : might be of use/interest to a few people.
"If you get a lot of e-mail spam, you might not be aware that email spammers frequently use e-mail "bots" that search online documents for typical email links. Information collected by these bots are usually shared or sold to fellow spammers.
There are a number of ways to prevent these e-mail bots from collecting data from your e-mail links. The easiest way is to "break-up" this data into smaller 'chunks' that will be ignored by the bots. This 'chunky' data is then re-assembled and displayed using (document.write) script code. Variations of this idea can be found on Google.
One of the problems I have is that I have a large number of different web sites and documents with contact email information. After spammers get hold of my current e-mail address and start to flood my server I usually need to change my e-mail address and start fresh. To be effective, I also want to block the old address. However changing all of my documents to the new e-mail address is difficult and time consuming.
To solve this problem I've created an external JavaScript (.js) file that I save on my server. It's assembled e-mail structure would look like "myname@myserver.com" and the code would be entered as...
var first = "myname";
var last = "myserver";
var tag = "com";
var mymail = (first+"@"+last+"."+tag)
This code is saved to my web server as a file called "myEmail.js"
Next I add the following code (to access myEmail.js) in the "Header" section of all my documents.
<script src="http://myserver.com/myEmail.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
Then I write the following code in the document where I want to display the e-mail link.
<script language=javascript>
document.write("<a href=" + "mail"+ "to:"+ mymail + ">" + mymail + "</a>" );
</script>
NOTE to display a regular text message the main code line could be;
document.write("<a href=" + "mail"+ "to:"+ mymail + ">" + " email me " + "</a>" );
NOTE for an image you could use;
document.write("<a href=" + "mail"+ "to:"+ mymail + "><img src='Images/email.gif' width='70' height='20' border='0'></a>" );
Basically when each web page opens it automatically connects to the "myEmail.js" file and loads the variable "mymail". this variable is then used to construct a proper email link. The beauty of this system is that now I only need to change the email address information in one place. For example change the variable "first" from "myname" to "mynewname" in the (myEmail.js) file."
Bikertec 06-09-2008, 22:07 If your using google mail you will get spammed. Listening to the radio last week google mail checks your emails for key words then sends you adverts. So if you mention Newyork in your mail you will get adverts for hotels in Newyork.:(
pattricia 06-09-2008, 22:07 I will bookmark this reply.:thumbsup:
Carl_Malibu 06-09-2008, 22:12 If your using google mail you will get spammed. Listening to the radio last week google mail checks your emails for key words then sends you adverts. So if you mention Newyork in your mail you will get adverts for hotels in Newyork.:(
they wont send you spam emails, it'll just be the targetted ads on the pages. Google have been doing that for years! Adesense (as I believe Sheff Forum uses?) uses the same idea.
pattricia 06-09-2008, 22:14 they wont send you spam emails, it'll just be the targetted ads on the pages. Google have been doing that for years! Adesense (as I believe Sheff Forum uses?) uses the same idea.
Why should I get an E Mail from Spain, asking me to join their group ?
Bikertec 06-09-2008, 22:14 I though it was something like that, but I wouldn't put it past em.:thumbsup:
pattricia 06-09-2008, 22:15 Why should I get an E Mail from Spain, asking me to join their group ?
Hope its not anything sexual ! Like swingers or summat ! :rolleyes:
Bikertec 06-09-2008, 22:18 Hope its not anything sexual ! Like swingers or summat ! :rolleyes:Not unless there going to pay for the plane tickets.:hihi::hihi:
pattricia 06-09-2008, 22:25 Not unless there going to pay for the plane tickets.:hihi::hihi:
One never knows these days ! :rolleyes:Could be The Mile High Club!:rolleyes:
happyhippy 07-09-2008, 00:10 Why should I get an E Mail from Spain, asking me to join their group ?
Might not be Spain. It would be more likely to be from the Phillipines or Mexico, to be honest. I wouldn't panic, and wouldn't worry about it too much - just delete it.
The important thing to remember, is that opening an email will do naff all harm, but clicking on a link in a spam email, could completely ruin your computer.
If you don't trust the mail, delete it. If it's important, there are other ways of contacting you!
In addition to what RiffRaff says, i'd breakup words like 'mail' into 'ma' + 'il', because they regex for the word mail also, some check 'at' and '?'
pattricia 07-09-2008, 09:28 Might not be Spain. It would be more likely to be from the Phillipines or Mexico, to be honest. I wouldn't panic, and wouldn't worry about it too much - just delete it.
The important thing to remember, is that opening an email will do naff all harm, but clicking on a link in a spam email, could completely ruin your computer.
If you don't trust the mail, delete it. If it's important, there are other ways of contacting you!
I have not clicked on any link in their E mails, and only opened the first one. Still getting them , but delete them straight away. Thanks for all your advice everyone.:thumbsup:
but delete them straight away.
Mark them as spam, before deleting them:).
pattricia 07-09-2008, 10:15 Mark them as spam, before deleting them:).
Oh, I didnt know that. Thanks. Will that stop any more from them?
Kingmaker2 07-09-2008, 10:31 Oh, I didnt know that. Thanks. Will that stop any more from them?
No it won't stop them, but it should place any future e-mails from them in your Spam folder.
If you are using Google mail via your desktop i.e via Windows Outlook or Thunderbird or other e-mail client, then Google won't send that e-mail to your computer.
That's one of the reasons I don't use Google mail as my desktop e-mail, as Google's spam filter can and has done in the past wrongly mark good e-mail as spam and it won't get delivered to your desktop.:suspect:
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