View Full Version : A myth, ledgend, story, or something, i cannot remember


john1010
03-09-2008, 17:22
hello, i'm hoping someone can help me with my bad memory :) haha, it's related to an event in my life with an old girlfriend and i cant remember where we were when we were told this story, but it was a lovely place and i would like to go back there. we were told a story or a myth, cant remember, folk tale maybe, a bit gruesome and i cant remember if it was a true story or not either, but it was about a bride that was killed on her wedding night by her husband either near a lake or drowned in the lake i think and now she is said to float or walk across the water sometimes, to haunt the place it happened but for the life of me i cannot remember the spot, was in a park in or around sheffield i think. i would love it if someone knew the story and could tell me where i was when i heard this :).
thank you,
john

Sweatshopboy
03-09-2008, 17:34
hello, i'm hoping someone can help me with my bad memory :) haha, it's related to an event in my life with an old girlfriend and i cant remember where we were when we were told this story, but it was a lovely place and i would like to go back there. we were told a story or a myth, cant remember, folk tale maybe, a bit gruesome and i cant remember if it was a true story or not either, but it was about a bride that was killed on her wedding night by her husband either near a lake or drowned in the lake i think and now she is said to float or walk across the water sometimes, to haunt the place it happened but for the life of me i cannot remember the spot, was in a park in or around sheffield i think. i would love it if someone knew the story and could tell me where i was when i heard this :).
thank you,
john
It sounds to me like the story related in the old Sheffield carol 'The Mistletoe Bough' that my mate's father used to sing brilliantly in the Rodney. May be mistaken about the pub.

john1010
03-09-2008, 17:41
hmm i dont know the mistletoe bough, it was in a park im quite sure of that, a lovely lake and all, she was said to walk across it i remeber , i think :). whats the mistltoe bough i looked it up abit but does'nt seem to be the thing, cud be wrong tho.
thanks.

Sweatshopboy
03-09-2008, 18:01
The archaic story of 'The Mistletoe Bough' as I remember it, is a bride and groom are playing there ancient version of hide and seek in a castle on their wedding night and the bride hides under some dresses in a trunk and is accidentally locked in, and is not found till years later. The carol is I think local to the Loxley Wisewood, Worral, Dungworth area's.

Dave650
03-09-2008, 18:06
I know what you're talking about, I've heard it too - I think it's somewhere in sheffield.
I'm sure Tess (on this forum) told me about it, see if she turns up and saves the day....

john1010
03-09-2008, 18:34
hmm i think matbe that cud be it although i dont remember the trunk?? :) haha but then i cant remeber the park either, wud be great if your friend tess could help me out with that. thanks guys.

Sweatshopboy
04-09-2008, 13:53
john1010 go to your search engine, type in The Mistletoe Bough and I think you might find what you want.

john1010
04-09-2008, 14:02
hey and thanks, i actually looked it up already and read it, the story that day was so vague to me tho, it colud have been the right one, the location seems right, but there was no mention of her walking the water in the version i read so it did'nt mention the lake and that was what i am looking for really, find the lake find the park :). maybe your friend tess can help, or someone else. thanks.

Tess
04-09-2008, 18:18
Ello..sorry I have Nooo idea what Daves on about :hihi: Wish I did though, sounds interesting!

Dave650
04-09-2008, 18:23
Ello..sorry I have Nooo idea what Daves on about :hihi: Wish I did though, sounds interesting!

fudge. I was sure it was you, you're the only one I ever hear ghost stories from.

john1010
04-09-2008, 19:13
:) haha ahhh yes seems to be going this way, but dave you have heard this tale? specifically that the ghost is supposed to move across the water on some lake yes? im sure that was what it was, the mistletoe bough story cud be it but it has no mention of the water or lake so i dont know. hmm..

Dave650
04-09-2008, 19:20
:) haha ahhh yes seems to be going this way, but dave you have heard this tale? specifically that the ghost is supposed to move across the water on some lake yes? im sure that was what it was, the mistletoe bough story cud be it but it has no mention of the water or lake so i dont know. hmm..

The only bit I remember is that a woman can be see moving accross the water ghostily at this lake/ pond. Can't remember where it was (sure it was sheff) or how she supposedly died. Sorry my memories only good with faces and inanimate objects.

john1010
04-09-2008, 19:24
ah! yes thats it, thats what i remember too, but neither of us can remember the lake, oh damn! haha oh no :), well i hope someone does but at least now i know im not remembering it wrong if you recall it that way as well, is that part of the mistletoe bough tho? i read about it and it didnt mention that

john1010
09-09-2008, 00:47
was really hoping someone could help with this. no one knows?

puddinburner
09-09-2008, 10:14
Was it the lake in Oaks park? Recall reading or hearing this story about a woman who walks on the lake years ago but can't say if she was a bride etc.

john1010
09-09-2008, 13:35
hi and thank you, i have no idea what the name of the park was but its good to hear that you have heard this as well. i looked for an oaks park on google but came up with nothing, there are many parks around sheffield and they all came back in the results but no oaks park unfortunately, is that the name of it for sure? i tried seaching for oak park too, singular, but still nothing. thanks for your help.

puddinburner
09-09-2008, 15:54
Definately Oaks park at Norton, Oaks house stands in the middle of it, was once the stately home of the Bagshaw Family but they left in the eighties and the house was made into flats....allsorts after. It can still be seen from Bochum Parkway.
Maybe known as The Oaks?
Anyway there is a lake and a story regarding a ghostly woman who floated over the water...or is it myth? just a ghost story we hear as kids to scare the socks off us..lol
Sheffield paranormal site may have an idea? of this story?

Poss PLAINTALKER could enlighten us, as know she knows most things about that area, PT please help!

john1010
10-09-2008, 21:15
hey and thank you, yes that could definitely be it, the settings look familiar, I looked it up on satellite view on google maps, the park is'nt labeled but there are views from roads with 'north view oaks park' laelled on them, if ur friend plaintalker cud verify this i'd really appreciate it. thank you everyone for your help too.

Waltheof
11-09-2008, 17:19
The ballad of The Mistletoe Bough is pretty ancient and I'm not sure that it's setting has anything specifically to do with Sheffield. It is in turn based on the story of the bride Ginevra (with an Italian setting), a part of the longer poem Italy by Samuel Rogers (1828)

A young bride on her wedding day in playful mood hides herself inside a trunk, of which the lid is closed with a spring lock. Fifty years later her skeleton is discovered there. Rogers notes, ‘The story is, I believe, founded on fact; though the time and the place are uncertain. Many old houses lay claim to it.’ It is retold by Bayly in his ballad ‘The Mistletoe Bough’

john1010
14-09-2008, 12:33
hi again and thanks to all who helped but i went to that place i thought was oaks park and it was'nt the spot, and i asked around and no oe knew of the story, and there actually was'nt a park named oaks park was just an area really. if anyone could help me with this it would be great. thanks.

englands son
14-09-2008, 18:33
Definately Oaks park at Norton, Oaks house stands in the middle of it, was once the stately home of the Bagshaw Family but they left in the eighties and the house was made into flats....allsorts after. It can still be seen from Bochum Parkway.
Maybe known as The Oaks?
Anyway there is a lake and a story regarding a ghostly woman who floated over the water...or is it myth? just a ghost story we hear as kids to scare the socks off us..lol
Sheffield paranormal site may have an idea? of this story?

Poss PLAINTALKER could enlighten us, as know she knows most things about that area, PT please help!
try oakes instead of oaks, have heard this story but the one i heard is set in graves park and it was on the lines that on valentines day a lad drowned his true love in the pond after she rebuffed his advances and it is said that every valentines night she walks across the lake in the direction of her home??? sounds to me like an urban legend as here is no evidence of such a murder taking place in graves park lakes....hope that helps you