View Full Version : Need your dog walking- graves park...


jonnyd
29-08-2008, 13:08
Does any want there dog walking around graves park? i am a local 17 year old boy who studies at king ecgberts sixth form. I have a small dog and walk it when i come home from school between 1- 2 hours, at about 4 oclock. So if any one is interested only £4 an hour.
thanks a lot

Strix
29-08-2008, 13:57
you'd be better off pming somebody like Teeny, and asking if she has any vacancies at the moment, unless you're planning to register as self employed and take out liability insurance - which you'll need, just in case some dog in the park chooses to pick a fight, but the one you're walking comes off worst!

teeny
29-08-2008, 21:52
Do you have insurance, crb checks and references,? south yorkshire police advise anyone taking on dog walkers and pet carers to check the person they employ has these three items. We did have a vacancy but its now beein filled , that was mainly to work with myself with small animals. We have a variety of work experience people from sheffield schools and Nottingham vet school.

jonnyd
30-08-2008, 17:13
thanks, does anyone else just want there dog walking in the park. hassle free

teeny
30-08-2008, 17:51
You need to have the requirements though ! Do you have any of these?

helenasq
30-08-2008, 18:01
thanks, does anyone else just want there dog walking in the park. hassle free

hassle free unless something unfortunate happens to the owners dog, or another dog in the park..... Without insurance you wouldn't be covered for accidents and you may have some very unhappy owners!

Strix
30-08-2008, 20:36
... and the taxman breathing down your neck - as this forum is monitored by the investigations department :thumbsup:

jennyhenny
31-08-2008, 00:23
I would never consider anyone who didn't have the relevent checks, it too risky.

Strix
31-08-2008, 00:46
oh yeah - did i mention that it's also illegal to pay somebody for their services if you know them to not be paying tax

they don't have to be an immigrant to be an illegal worker ;)

jennyhenny
31-08-2008, 08:41
I believe you have to registir with the tax people even if you don't end up paying tax and pay NI contributions. Your buisness has to registered with Sheffield Chamber of commerce or buisness link.

Strix
31-08-2008, 14:10
Your buisness has to registered with Sheffield Chamber of commerce or buisness link.Really? To register as self employed all you have to do is ring the tax office, and inform them you're a sole trader. Chamber of commerce membership is not compulsory - it's effectively a networking facility which costs to join

jonnyd
31-08-2008, 14:38
i am only 17 and will be earn under 12,200 a year- so tax is not an issue....
any only local need there dog walking?
thanks

helenasq
31-08-2008, 15:26
You should not be doing it without meeting the necessary requirements,ie. insurance ,CRB check, tax registered.
No sensible pet owner would trust their dog to a stranger who didn't possess these essential requirements!

Jobi-Wan
31-08-2008, 15:56
Give the lad a break! What he is offering is no worse than the 15yo down the street being paid a tenner to babysit... Now you tell me, who makes sure the babysitter has all the insurances and tax registrations in place first?? Very few I bet!

Not saying I'm agreeing with it.

The kid is just offering to walk someones dog. There's plenty of dogs out there that never see beyond then garden fence!! And if the owner of the dog is happy to let the lad take it for a walk, and pay him the £4 an hour for it then that's up to them.

You've offered your advice, leave it at that.... if he and the dogs' owner choose to ignore it then that their lookout.

teeny
31-08-2008, 17:12
Sorry to say , we have a number of customers who have given young lad and lasses a go and we have to deal with the issues that brings we have had 4 customers come to us after the neighbourhood police reccomended us to them, its taken months of hard work both for the customers and their animals to trust again, I am not sayng this young lad wouldn't be able to do this job, we are just saying he should have the insurance etc its important really.

SpeedDemon
31-08-2008, 17:21
What he is offering is no worse than the 15yo down the street being paid a tenner to babysit...

This is very true - I used to babysit for the neighbours when I was a teen. Also took my mum's friend dog with me on my paper round every day. Never had checks, never had insurance etc etc, I knew the neighbours well & I loved dogs so much but mum wouldn't let me have one, so walking her friend's was the next best thing. The world has gone "sue" mad these days, making everyone need insurance for everything!

boo22
31-08-2008, 17:26
Give the lad a break! What he is offering is no worse than the 15yo down the street being paid a tenner to babysit... Now you tell me, who makes sure the babysitter has all the insurances and tax registrations in place first?? Very few I bet!

I personally would not leave a 15 year old baby sitting as most are not responsible enough and havn't got a clue as to how to look after a child. My children are my most precious possessions and I would not entrust them to a strange with no CRB check. Who in their right mind would give the key of their brand new expensive car to a stranger to look after? As far as I can see there is no difference between this and someone looking after a dog or child who is not properly qualified. A car can be replaced - a dog or child can't.

Also if the dog was stolen or attacked by another dog, the boy would not have the insurance cover to claim back for any mishaps whilst in his care.

Jobi-Wan
31-08-2008, 18:54
Like I said, I'm not necessarily agreeing with the lads plan.

I can appreciate everyones point of view, and common sense should prevail.

jonnyd
07-09-2008, 12:59
so does anyone else Want there dog walking around graves park- free week trail........... but it will be my dog aswell- very friendly.
thanks

Strix
07-09-2008, 13:16
Give the lad a break! What he is offering is no worse than the 15yo down the street being paid a tenner to babysit... Now you tell me, who makes sure the babysitter has all the insurances and tax registrations in place first?? Very few I bet!If you've asked somebody you know to babysit or dog walk, you're not likely to sue them if something goes wrong

if a random person in the park makes an accusation against a dog being walked, the law states that the owner is liable if he dog is walked by a friend, but if walked by a walker, it's the walker who's liable - hence the requirement for insurance (the owner's household insurance usually covers 3rd party incidents with a pet)

teeny
07-09-2008, 14:31
i am only 17 and will be earn under 12,200 a year- so tax is not an issue....
any only local need there dog walking?
thanks

Your personal allowence is et by the tax office anything over 6,000 is now taxible or there arounds then its £1 in every £100 and its actually more as you have to pay half the next years up front !!!

Graves park is also a renouned place of dogs going missing!!!

lyndix
07-09-2008, 17:52
I agree with Jobi-Wan, give the lad a break.:rolleyes:
He came on here offering a service(at least he`s getting off his arse and trying to do something, more than a lot of youngsters would do) fair enough, he hasn`t obviously looked that far into it before posting.
Leave him be, if people want to use him then its up to them.

slimsid2000
08-09-2008, 15:17
You need to have the requirements though ! Do you have any of these?


He has a leed. What more does he have to do?

teeny
08-09-2008, 15:27
He has a leed. What more does he have to do?

South Yorkshire Police advise anyone taking on dog walkers and pet carers to check the person they employ has these three items, CRB check, Insurance and checkable references.

Having a lead isn't one of those as the owners will supply the dogs own lead!:)

As all this has been said in the past its not said to harress or hassle anyone its for protection of both parties, I have met lots of people with trust issues after been let down by unqualified people.

There are other things to take into consideration , has he had a canine medical course? very useful if the dog chokes or hyperventilates.
Does he have vet access if anything goes wrong. We have Peak vets backing us if theres a problem......
when our customer had a major problem Steve from there came straight up to the park when a dog was having breathing differculties while Greg advised the owner on the phone what to do.
Thats all I am saying.

ch.clark
08-09-2008, 15:31
Jobworths all of you :loopy:

jonnyd
08-09-2008, 15:36
thanks clark, im just looking to help someone out who is possably ill or to busy with work. And earn a little pocket money.
thanks

ch.clark
08-09-2008, 15:38
thanks clark, im just looking to help someone out who is possably ill or to busy with work. And earn a little pocket money.
thanks

No worries

If i lived near graves park you could take my dog while i'm at work, but it'd probably cost you £4 in bus fare!

Lotti
08-09-2008, 16:19
Jonny please don't take this the wrong way as it's meant as constructive!

I think you'd be better off asking family/friends/neighbours who already know you - but good luck.

I understand you're only trying to earn some pocket money and I think it's great that you are wanting to get out and do something rather than doing sod all like so many other 'kids' (excuse the term).

However - the people on this thread are not 'jobsworths' they are trying to help, even if it doesn't seem that way. Some of them are professional dog walkers and others are dog owners - both categories of people would be worth listening to.

For example - I'm not a dog walker, I'm not able to be due to a disability but I'm a dog trainer. I'm also a dog owner.
As a dog owner I would say I wouldn't be happy to let someone I didn't know, with no insurance to take my dog anywhere - let alone Graves Park. It's Graves Park that puts me off the most.

I love walking my dogs in Graves Park, but I wouldn't trust anyone else to - not even my family. Too many times I've heard about fights or had experiences where I thought how glad I was to have been there should anything have broken out.

I'm also concerned for you - that in today's society if anything was to happen on a walk and another dog started laying into your dog and the dog you were walking, you're not insured. You would get sued if injury occured - and lets face it, you'd save your dog first wouldn't you.
Vets fees are expensive and many people would do anything they could to get out of them, including suing the person responsible for the dog at that moment in time (you) even though they agreed for you to take the dog without having adequate insurance.

I've done the babysitting for extra cash as a kid - and to be honest, even though it's someone's baby there aren't as many risks imo, as there are when walking dogs. You can never predict what someone else's dog is going to do.

I wish you luck but I have to say I think you'd be better off asking people you know - by the time you've paid for insurance (which aint cheap) you're going to have to charge a lot more for the walking and I think the people on the thread are only trying to help because what happens if someone does decide to sue you and you don't have insurance?? You'll be a lot more worse off by then.

Good luck with it, I know you're doing your best - but people on here do know what they're talking about even if it's not what you want to hear :(

holidayhutch
08-09-2008, 16:24
As a professional dog walker whilst I agree, YES, it is important to make sure people are CRB checked, have references and insurance and in an ideal world people would make sure they employed people with those attributes - at the end of the day there are people out there who cannot afford the prices businesses like ourselves charge and if they as adults are happy for someone to walk their dog who doesn't have these things then that is entirely up to them.

I wonder how many of us as kids used to knock on neighbours doors and ask if we could walk the dog, wash their cars, baby sat etc, what about bob a job week too, no one worried if you were going to scratch the car or lose the dog or knew what to do if the kid stopped breathing etc. It has to be the owners responsibility and decision who they employ and up to the employee to be aware of the possible consequences if things go wrong and they are not covered. If the OP is aware of that then good luck to him I say.

teeny
08-09-2008, 17:03
thanks clark, im just looking to help someone out who is possably ill or to busy with work. And earn a little pocket money.
thanks


This was said to protect you as much as the owners.:)

Gemima
11-09-2008, 09:08
I think its great that you wish to earn money whilst doing something you enjoy but the professional dog walkers on here have had to work hard to make sure that the service they are offering covers every eventuality. Way back when I was a kid we did not live in the blame society that we live in today. Dogs were loose on the streets and got into scrapes with people, other dogs and cars, but that was tough and the owner forked out the vets bill. Today however someone is at fault and someone has to pay, its the way of the world today unforunately.

I think offering to walk dogs for strangers is a bad idea, for the reasons already pointed out in the thread.

Strix
11-09-2008, 12:34
I wonder how many of us as kids used to knock on neighbours doors and ask if we could walk the dog, wash their cars, baby sat etc, what about bob a job week too, no one worried if you were going to scratch the car or lose the dog or knew what to do if the kid stopped breathing etc. It has to be the owners responsibility and decision who they employ and up to the employee to be aware of the possible consequences if things go wrong and they are not covered. If the OP is aware of that then good luck to him I say.In that age, people didn't sue at the drop of a hat, you'd have known the neighbour's dog already, and it's temperament, and IF there had been an incident and the police came knocking on the door, you wouldn't have an advert on an internet forum making it plain you were operating a business without the necessary cover - you'd have just been a neighbour walking a neighbour's dog ;)

I'd have no objection to this person doing favours to friends for a bit of pocket money, but he's leaving himself wide open to all kinds of trouble he (and his parents) should be aware of before he gets going