View Full Version : Can anyone advise me please? Ill child and work who don't care


dc014o8215
26-08-2008, 08:09 PM
my little girl was took in hospital tuesday mornin and took in for operation wednesday mornin we have found out she is poorley for a long time. gone bk to work today my first day bk since tuesday and my main boss has told me he is comein in friday to dicepline me because i did not phone up my self and got my mother to phone up on thursday.i have all medical letters to back everything up.when you go down to theatre with your little girl work or any thing is the last thing on your mind my daugter is goin to be in and out hospical most of her life.when i see this manger friday i want to tell him what i think of him but need to know were i stand pls can some one give me some advise pls.

WYorksDeano
26-08-2008, 08:11 PM
Just explain your situation to him explaining that it was a medical emergency. If he has kids he will know what its like.

Maybe this "main boss" hasn't been given the full facts

Malky
26-08-2008, 08:16 PM
Tell him where to shove his job, sounds like your little girls is going to need your full attention.

dc014o8215
26-08-2008, 08:17 PM
Just explain your situation to him explaining that it was a medical emergency. If he has kids he will know what its like.

Maybe this "main boss" hasn't been given the full factsthanks.my manger as explained everthing to him my manger understands just donet know what is up with this man if i can call him that.

waxonwaxoff
26-08-2008, 08:22 PM
I would put him in his place and tell him even given the situation you made sure that someone contacted him to inform him. Then politely but sternly tell him to back off.

*Wallace*
26-08-2008, 08:27 PM
What a poor excuse for a man.Keep your temper inside explain your priority's were with your child as any parent would have been.Can you take union representation into the meeting with you,you are entitled to do so.

arachnophobe
26-08-2008, 08:31 PM
You say this man is the "main boss", but is there anyone superior to him you could go to, e.g area manager, head office, owner of company? If so I'd simply go over his head, contact the most senior member of the company you can and explain your situation, that you had a family medical emergency and now your boss wants to discipline you, and you feel this is uncalled for given the circumstances. That might be enough to get him to back off.

REPO MAN
26-08-2008, 08:33 PM
ring acass jn leeds.

Squiggs
26-08-2008, 08:58 PM
One thing that is not worth doing is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

WYorksDean gives good advice, find out what your main boss does and doesn't know

therealchris
26-08-2008, 09:11 PM
I would stay calm! Take all the medical letters in on Friday and explain everything to him in person. He might be reasonable about it.

I wouldn't go over his head at this stage. It could REALLY backfire.

Squiggs is right. Stay calm and don't cut your nose! Some people are always revved up for a battle, but battles at work are never a good idea (unless you work for the council/civil service... ha haa..)

Good luck.

Malky
26-08-2008, 09:18 PM
(unless you work for the council/civil service... ha haa..)

Good luck.

Constructive dismissal and a six figure sum. :thumbsup:

therealchris
26-08-2008, 09:25 PM
Constructive dismissal and a six figure sum. :thumbsup:

They got off easy with me. I just got a two figure book token. :sad:

arachnophobe
26-08-2008, 09:42 PM
I would stay calm! Take all the medical letters in on Friday and explain everything to him in person. He might be reasonable about it.

I wouldn't go over his head at this stage. It could REALLY backfire.

Squiggs is right. Stay calm and don't cut your nose! Some people are always revved up for a battle, but battles at work are never a good idea (unless you work for the council/civil service... ha haa..)

Good luck.

Yes this is good advice. But if it doesn't work, you may have no choice but to go over his head. See what happens on Friday and whether it can be sorted out amicably or not. If you have made your best efforts to explain and done all you can to resolve things, and he is still being unreasonable, don't feel guilty about involving his boss. And as other posters have said, try to stay calm and polite at all times! ;)

Squiggs
26-08-2008, 10:05 PM
You should be able to take a colleague of your choice into your disciplinary meeting. If there is someone who you trust, but who has any respect of the manafgement then perhaps you should consider it.

It can calm the "confrontational" nature of such affairs and sometimes your colleague can say what you are trying to say without being angry or lashing out.

Titian
26-08-2008, 10:19 PM
When dealing with a dependent, in your case your child, you are entitled to take "emergency time off". Your employer cannot and should not proceed with disciplinary action as this would be a breach of employment law/the employment relations act (as you informed them). They are however not duty bound to pay you for the time off, this is at their discretion.

Vanos
26-08-2008, 11:55 PM
A few questions to get a balanced view..

How long have you worked there ?

How many days off have you had in the last 12 months ?

dc014o8215
27-08-2008, 12:34 AM
A few questions to get a balanced view..

How long have you worked there ?

How many days off have you had in the last 12 months ?thankyou every one for your help.worked there 3and half years in last 12 months had about a week of with same prob when my daugter the year befor never had one day off.not wantin to sound rude but for what ever reason if i had 1day 20 days off do's that mean if your child is in a bad way and they need to op on her your goin to be think o i need to phone work sorry if i sound rude but if thats how a compney treats you know wonder we have a high unemployed recored in the uk my kids come be for any one anything they are the love of my life.iim 27 with 3 kids left school at 15 and never been out of work in my life as i said earley if not for morgage i would tell him were to stick job.and ive never walked out of work.my manger in my center is understanding he even been on ward to see my daugter so for this main manger to be goin off at a time like this i do not understand ive only gone back to work so i can keep a roof for us i could easy be sat on m2 ward now sat by my daugter side but thats not goin to help us.again thankyou for every ones help.daniel

Vanos
27-08-2008, 12:55 AM
Wasn't taking a view on this, just wanted more info before I commented.

Sounds like you are in the right to me but as the economy goes quickly down the toilet employers will look to unload burdens on the business as cheaply as possible.

Hope your daughter gets better soon.

diablo
27-08-2008, 10:47 AM
This should not be a dificult one to sort out, first of all you have everything going for you - you are entitled to emergency care as previously stated, but whoever said that your employer does not need to pay you for this time was absolutely right.

Have you got a union rep? or have you spoken to ACCAS?

Also if you do not feel fully prepared to have the meeting on Friday then you are entitled to ask if the meeting can be deferred to a later date so you can prepare your 'case' as it were.

I would definately take somebody into the meeting with you as a witness and I would also take notes and write them up following the meeting (they do not need to be typed).

I would then ask your 'main' manager to check through them and sign them. This way you have evidence if this thing goes any further. Make sure you keep notes of anything that is said or anything that happens, it's amazing how quickly you can forget small but important events.

The reason I am saying this is that if you have upset this person and they know they cannot sack you for this, they may try and make your life miserable. I'm sorry for sounding so negative, but it is just to give you some advice about what could happen.

Belt and bracer everything!

It would probably be worth contacting the Citizens Advice Bureau too, just to get there take on it.

Good luck and please let us know how you get on with it.

One last thing to bear in mind - be prepared for a complete change of character when you go to the meeting, the manager may turn out to be really nice to your face - don't let them through you off guard. They may have been having a bad day (not making excuses at all they are still in the wrong) but they may just feel like they cannot back down now.

dc014o8215
29-08-2008, 11:32 PM
thankyou every one for your help.the manger was verry understanding had my manger in room with me which was good.he looked in to my record and was suprised at how good my record was he explaind he gave some one three writin warnings and had to let them go and that he could't afford staff to not turn in and not inform there mangers which i understand but i really wanted to say look mate my familey comes be for any one but like other users said donet cut your nose off to spite your face but everything worked out alright.me daugter is still in but she is the best place all staff on m2 are so good and docters are fantistic.again thankyou really thanks every one.

Cyclone
29-08-2008, 11:47 PM
I don't understand why they started being funny, they were informed, just not by you. That can't be that unusual, if you were (god forbid) injured in an accident or in hospital you wouldn't be phoning them yourself either.

Seems a bit odd, like the manager didn't have the full story.