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hi guys my tilly dog (staffyx) is a nightmare in a cute dog!!! im getting to my whits end with her, she started attacking kyah my gsd x and properly fighting. so with great reccommendation we got a dog trainer out. he sorted that problem but now shes absolutley wrecking my house, shes chewed my shelfs in my kitchen that are part of the fited kitchen shes managed to escape her crate atnight and runs round tearing up anythin in sight such as logans toys, anything she can get her hands on, wecame in the other day to find our house wrecked n poo everywhere. i honestly dont know what to do with her. i have a 4month old baby and i cant keep spendin an hour tidyin up wat tilly has wrecked. how do i stop this? kyah doesnt do anything like this and im finding it very hard to cope, she was amazing until we moved.
oh and she has millions of toys and lots of walks and attention so beats me as to why shes like this
sarahknowles 25-08-2008, 20:44 I say giv her Jess hahahahaha
Have you thought of muzzeling her while you go out ? i know there are some good muzzels that don't stop them getting to water etc. I hope she improves hun , its horrid when you have a dog which does this
hi, no not tried this as she isnt nasty on walks i think its the house wrecking that upsets me the most as i can now see the warnig signs of the fights n stop it before it starts.
i just feel like im fighting a losing battle with her, its costing money having t replace what shes wrecking, and like i sed she has a million yoys ans she has loads of exercise!!!
this is my last resort i really want help
JarvisCocker 26-08-2008, 14:52 I have a crate I'm selling if you want to crate train her? PM if interested, it's like new, we bought it for our dog but hardly used it in the end.
she has a crate and she keps escaping but thank you, shes got them figured!!!!! its so ustrating, i love her to bits
Hi luv, I know how you feel. Our stray dog Digby wrecked our house for the first year with us. Settees, curtains, even tore the backing of the carpet and piled it up to the door. We had to break the window to get in. We were at our wits end and then as if by magic he got his act together and became the most docile dog imaginable. Like you I would take him for a walk, go out, look through the window and he would start again. Wrecking everything. Apparently he was stressed at being left as his previous owner had left him outside during the day when he went to work. But Digby was never vicious. Quite the opposite. I know this is no help really, all I can say is that it will end, but when? You have my sympathy. A crate I am sure will only make matters worse. Digby became better when he had the run of the house but it was risky! Restricting him to the kitchen was the worst thing we could have done. The kitchen suffered! What did help was taking him in the car whenever I went out but not everyone can or would like to do this. Sorry!! x
Its such a struggle with her, im in nearly all day and they have a huge garden to play in, then they come in and have cuddles with me and we play with their toys together outside, i really have tried everything i can think of, its difficult because even when she is in the garden shes destructive she digs big holes and jumps on my trampoline and starts tearing away at he sides. I really am at my wits end, i dont want to live like this especially when my little one gets bigger he wont be able to have anythin!!!
Out of interest how old is she???
Also have you had her checked by the vet as pain can sometimes cause a dog to be destructive especially if they have a tooth or jaw problem- its just a thought.
My old gsd was very destructive till he was nearly 3, he cost us a fortune, we still have a bathroom door on that he tried to chew through when he accidentally got shut in there!
I ended up buying a big cage, there are different brands, this was a strong brass type of one and although he managed to bend the cage he never managed to get out and he was expert at doors and handles throughout the house. He had to go in the cage when I went out, it was the only way, he ate a suite, conservatory furniture, carpets, lino, you name it, so I can really sympathise. Exercise is perhaps a way forward, not just walking but making her use her head with some obedience thrown in. When I walk Josh I always do some sit and down stays and recalls along with his normal sniffing about time and ball throwing time. Its worth a try. The muzzle idea may well work also as long as there is sufficient ventilation for the dog to pant and drink, the mikky muzzles are only designed to be on a dog for a short time. It would have to be a muzzle that is designed to be on for longer periods.
Congratulations on really trying with this problem. Many folk would have given up but you have really tried to sort it.
The only consolation if the vet cant find anything wrong is that they often grow out of it.
Yeah i had her vet checked and as far as they can see shes fine, yeah ive tried they whole using her head with her as shes very clever, its works for short while and then she gets bored lol!!! i will try the muzzle, shes 1 and a half, im trying to get her in to be done as ive been told this may help but they can only do it at certain times, i really am trying to sort her out, apart from this she is n amazing dog!!! My son is only 19 weeks old and is gettig to the stage where he wants to grab and play, tilly just lays down 4 him and lets him play with her so in that respect i couldnt ask for a better dog, thats the reason im so reluctant to give up on her, its just very hard because we are in rented accommodation and if this carries on theres a isk we could lose our house, the landlord knows we have dogs but they dont know how distructive she is because we didnt until we moved here!!!
*Peaches* 26-08-2008, 18:50 It could be separation anxiety maybe?
hi, im in most of the time and if i do nip out its hardly ever for more than an hour but if this is it how do i combat it?
hi, im in most of the time and if i do nip out its hardly ever for more than an hour but if this is it how do i combat it?
Some useful info here (http://www.allaboutpets.org.uk/Pet-Leaflets-and-Articles/Leaflets/General/Alone-At-Home.aspx).
My new rescue dog has this problem, he settled in really well at first, and seemed OK to be left for a short time. In fact, he'd settled so well I was going to go away for a weekend and leave him for the neighbours to look after!
Then he suddenly went entirely backwards, scrabbling at the door, digging up the carpets, dragging books off shelves, etc, etc, if I left him to go out or go to bed.
I got him a Kong, which I stuff with some of the squelchy stuff and bits of biscuit, etc, and give that to him before I go out, it seems to distract him nicely. He's still anxious when I get back, but not as bad. I don't know if he's still barking while I'm out, because the neighbours never seem to be in to listen out for him when I go out.
Strangely enough, he seems to get more upset if he knows I'm actually in house, but he can't see or be with me - like when I go to the bathroom.
Good luck.
helenasq 26-08-2008, 21:27 2 out of 3 of our dogs wear baskerville muzzles as they are very destructie whilst we are out. This type of muzzle allows the dog to pant, drink etc and we have been assured by both dog trainers and vets that it is not cruel.
A crate might be an option for her as it would be 'her space'. Even if you didn't lock her in it, it would be a space just for her where she feels safe and secure. Like estweyn says, there are lots of different brands and all of different quality. Good luck with her anyway, keeping my fingers crossed for you
Rainrescue 26-08-2008, 23:16 Hia Haylic
Sorry that this is still going on - from when we last spoke about it. What did the trainer/behaviourist recommend? I would think that they should still be with you and sticking with you. Most of them offer continued support whilst you have the problem?
pm me which one you went to, and why the methods aren't working would you?
I am certainly no behaviourist - and don't even try to go there on why/where with it all - but it seems very strange that this has all started with the move. Wonder if there was a dog /cat there before? What about food - on a low protein?
It is so hard - and not what you want - but I think the amount and the protein and the timing of when fed - can certainly be a factor in some of it.
Also - the level of 'on lead' exercise is crucial - how much actual lead walking does she get? thats not off lead and playing - its fast paced heel work?
fox20thc 26-08-2008, 23:23 hi, im in most of the time and if i do nip out its hardly ever for more than an hour but if this is it how do i combat it?
Haylic, our rescue staffy X (Porscha) was a pain when we first got her.
Pooing and weeing everywhere. Eating stuff, (furniture/doors/ shoes!)
Every time I left the room she weed (sep. anxiety) we sorted it with the OH distracting her when I left, then I came back soon after. We extended the times and now its okay, we can both go out and leave her in. I have a Kong which we fill with lovely hard to reach treats when we are leaving for a long time, (couple of hours) and that distracts her,she gets bored and nods off.
I've also noticed a good run around = relaxing for a couple of hrs with a staffy afterwards.. then the fun starts again :hihi:
seems like trying to get her a kong could be the way forward, to be honest jackie its not a lot of on lead time we play a lot off the lead maybe thats where im going wrong:( i dont think its her diet as ive followed what the behaviourist told me regarding that. im slightly peeved with the trainer i paid a lot of money for him to come out and now he wats the same fee again!!! just not sure where im gonna get that kind of money from again:confused: im going to try taking all the advice ive been given on here and take it from there.
As far as i know there has been no other dog here at least in he last 2 years my poor dogs must be so confused
pets@home 27-08-2008, 08:50 Hi how much exersize she getting ?Staffs need quite a lot of running around ,Also this sounds really stupid & i didnt think it would work but have you tried putting a kiddies tea shirt on her ,stay with me, if you get her a tea shirt & rub it on yourself so as to get your sent on it & put it on her, this is supposed to trigger memories of when they were in thier mothers womb which in turn makes them feel more secure, I actually got one of my staffs off prozac useing this idea ,glad i gave it the benifit of the dought, hope this does help
sarahknowles 27-08-2008, 17:11 Kongs r great hun, Willow and Molly both have one, you can get the kong treat squirty stuff to thats brill. What did the behaviourist tell you to do? When did she have that? Poor Kyah i bet she wonders whats going on!!!
just after we got back off holiday, kyah just sits there watching her but if she starts when shes out kyah like walks up to her as if to say stop it. it was more abouty training me as i apparently give tilly control and she thinks shes top dog
sarahknowles 27-08-2008, 17:18 You could have a word mit mum. She has done a dog behaviour course and knows quite alot about it. She would be able to give you info. Any you know she loves ya!!!
thanks hun, yeah i mite take u up on that it cost me a bloody fortune and it hasnt done much, i just ont want her to go u no how much i love tilly, and shes amazing with logan, its just hard cos we came home saturday to a completely wrecked house for the 5th time this week!!!!:o
sarahknowles 27-08-2008, 17:24 RAGHHH i hate that. I was gutted when willow chewed my sofa! When i next see mum i will tell her and see what she says. She will have some ideas on what to do. I can always get her to email you or give you a ring :)
Im at the stage now where im reay to give in at 7;45 this morning i had the neighbours come round complaining becaue tilly is barking so louly at their dog, i cant even keep her in the garden now because shes dug a hole next to the fence post and its fell down, i can cope i really cant and this is so unfair on my son and my other dog. when i should be spending time with my son im running around after tilly. I know this is my fault somehow but im dont know what to do, my priority is to logan and this morning when i got up shes jumped on him, totally unintentionally she was just excited but i dont know what to do!!!!!! :help:
Ive reached the point were i just sit nd cry, its not fair on any of usshes just wrecked my house the neighbours have sai they are going to call landlord about her and i dont want us to be homeless because of tilly
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