Seemingly yet another pub has fallen on hard times with the reported closure of the Noah's Ark pub at Crookes after the bailiffs moved in this week.
All very disappointing for such a popular and well-appointed pub when once run by John and Tina Pearson, for over twenty years, to see it gradually slide down the pan to this state, once they had left.

Blame the Breweries, a Pub gets popular, the Landlord is well liked and the locals like them, then the Brewery hikes the rent, Landlord can't afford it, and ups sticks.. Happens all the time.

Seemingly yet another pub has fallen on hard times with the reported closure of the Noah's Ark pub at Crookes after the bailiffs moved in this week.
All very disappointing for such a popular and well-appointed pub when once run by John and Tina Pearson, for over twenty years, to see it gradually slide down the pan to this state, once they had left.

Jesus(TM).

Admittedly it's a long time since I lived up there, but it was always bustling (although I had the Cobden View as my local). I'm genuinely shocked.

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That's sad news, I used to like to have dinner in there when we lived that end of town :(

you still live at that end of town? Crookes >Fulwood?

i'm prob a lot older than you guys (am 49) but i used to go in that pub wen i was 16/17 ( i know i shouldnt) and it was always packed...and as for the cobden view..at about same time i used to go out with a lad wot lived on cobden view road!! but cant remember a pub being there with same name as the road...used to like knockin around crookes area..i worked there at the time...old converted church just above noahs ark pub....used to know some nice folk around there..but you move on....reminicin ere....(hope spelled that right??)

Sad news indeed. I spent many an hour in the Noah's when John and Tina ran it; the pub was always a great place to drink, and a very friendly atmosphere.

Seemingly yet another pub has fallen on hard times with the reported closure of the Noah's Ark pub at Crookes after the bailiffs moved in this week.
All very disappointing for such a popular and well-appointed pub when once run by John and Tina Pearson, for over twenty years, to see it gradually slide down the pan to this state, once they had left.

The doors were open today with the manager outside having a fag. If it is still open it's only a matter of time - they had no lager and some draught beers last week.
Crying shame it's been there as long as I can remember.

I was there last night chatting with the landlord - they were winding things down then. No guinness! But they were running out of most other stuff as well.

Tis such a shame that decent little boozers are getting put out of business by the breweries.

A lovely Pub too......

Thought Noah's Ark was owned by a pub company rather than a brewery?

Is bad news. Anyone know what's gone wrong - pub company squeezing the tenant landlord financially? Custom going elsewhere (other pubs or perhaps cheap supermarket booze)? Or is it issues with how the pub is run? Or maybe the landlord has simply had enough?

As far as I know the pub has a good reputation.

The ' pub culture ' seems to be dying the death in the U.K, together with [ picked at random in the early hours ! ]----hunting, old men in pubs playing crib over a pipe and a pint, quiet pubs, cafes serving traditional English food a la the old Butler's, children playing in groups outside, politeness, police walking round the streets, specialist corner shops of all kinds, small travelling fairgrounds and the circuses........Don't want to sound like Victor Meldrew but it does seem rather sad and rather sudden.

Oh well, must grab a triple WhamBam Cheeseburger and have a litre of lager in The New Disco Olde English Tavern & Winebar and then stand outside in the rain to have a smoke.
Here's To Merrie England ! Cheers !

i'm prob a lot older than you guys (am 49) but i used to go in that pub wen i was 16/17 ( i know i shouldnt) and it was always packed...and as for the cobden view..at about same time i used to go out with a lad wot lived on cobden view road!! but cant remember a pub being there with same name as the road...used to like knockin around crookes area..i worked there at the time...old converted church just above noahs ark pub....used to know some nice folk around there..but you move on....reminicin ere....(hope spelled that right??)

The 'Cobbie' has been there for years and years. It's at the bottom end of the road near to School Road, on the left hand side as you go down the hill.

The pub trade has been dying on its feet for the last 25 years or so.

If true, this is very bad news indeed. The Noah's was one of several good boozers on that route. :(

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If true, this is very bad news indeed. The Noah's was one of several good boozers on that route. :(

You can rest assured it's true! Bailiffs?

Thing is there are such a lot of pubs around there. I bet most go in The Ball and the Cobden.Great folk nights there on a Thursday

The ' pub culture ' seems to be dying the death in the U.K, together with [ picked at random in the early hours ! ]----hunting, old men in pubs playing crib over a pipe and a pint, quiet pubs, cafes serving traditional English food a la the old Butler's, children playing in groups outside, politeness, police walking round the streets, specialist corner shops of all kinds, small travelling fairgrounds and the circuses........Don't want to sound like Victor Meldrew but it does seem rather sad and rather sudden.

Oh well, must grab a triple WhamBam Cheeseburger and have a litre of lager in The New Disco Olde English Tavern & Winebar and then stand outside in the rain to have a smoke.
Here's To Merrie England ! Cheers !

I think that the 'Fighting' culture has to play a part in all this as well.

The pub trade has been dying on its feet for the last 25 years or so.

The industry has changed dramatically this is true, but I would not say its dying, more 'settling' into a new social and cultural framework. You will find pubs closing because many run on very tight profit margins, with very little if any working capital or room for 'industry crisis', and so cannot absorb any sudden 'trends' in custom/trade.

This Summer is killing off a lot of good pubs, with the current Credit Crunch set to last a good while longer yet. Also too many pubs try to offer 'cheap' beer, in order to attract more trade, which it does, but then their profit margin is slashed even more and so many just go straight into bankruptcy before they even realize it. The latter is happening a lot......often perfectly good and busy pubs seem to go the wall literally overnight, as they are doing a lot of trade, but not making any actual profit.

It may sound as if the reverse should be true. Very quiet pubs sometimes baffle all by continuing to trade in this economic climate, (I am sure we can all think of examples of such) while others which are 3 or 4 times as busy just are boarded up suddenly.

For example, a pub selling 'discount' beer that takes 10K a week and is packed all the time may be making next to no profit at all, or even losing money, while one that takes just 3K a week may make a considerably greater profit, and despite being empty most of the time, works as a business model. Swings and roundabouts......

There are suburbs where there are lots of pubs all very close together and many engage in 'price wars' to try and 'clean up' and put others out of business by offering cut price beer deals, ie 99p a pint, etc....all that happens is that they clean themselves out!!
(unless they are Weatherspoons and have £90000 billion in the bank and can afford such loss leader deals)

Price wars are not the way forward these days. If there are several pubs close to one another, they should all make sure they are individual and offer a slightly different experience to the others.

Using Bradway as an experience, the Old Mother Redcap is a no frills local with good value prices and comfortable surroundings, the Castle Inn is a cosy, friendly, multi roomed pub with a good choice of real ales and entertainment and the Bradway is a more modern, smart pub focusing on premium food and drink. So each pub isn't competing directly.

Price wars are not the way forward these days. If there are several pubs close to one another, they should all make sure they are individual and offer a slightly different experience to the others.

Using Bradway as an experience, the Old Mother Redcap is a no frills local with good value prices and comfortable surroundings, the Castle Inn is a cosy, friendly, multi roomed pub with a good choice of real ales and entertainment and the Bradway is a more modern, smart pub focusing on premium food and drink. So each pub isn't competing directly.

Those are good examples indeed. I always like the Redcap as Sam Smiths cider is totally delicious and only sold in a handful of Sheffield pubs...

The pubs I refer to are easy to spot: usually plastered with hand written signs on the walls and huge posters in the windows with words similar to
'LOOK....99 pence a pint..SUPER VALUE'
and look like a closing down sale shop window.........

none in Bradway or Totley or Dore....I think.....

but back to topic, is the Noahs Ark open tomorrow does anyone know as I am up that way on a small pub crawl.....its been a while since I stopped off there...
an old web page here for it but not sure how up to date it is
http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk/ark/arkhome.htm

a conspiracy by the pub landlords: the land will be sold to build more flats

a conspiracy by the breweries & supermarket: wait until most of the pubs are closed then see how the prices rise and offers cease

and a conspiracy by the government: they hate to see people enjoying themselves and is another way of nanny state by taxing our pleasure out of reach

Yes it is a very sad time when pubs hit the wall like this.I have drank here many times and always enjoyed the drink and company and found the landlady very nice. I hear talk on Crookes that it closed due to no investment of money from the owners but believe me this is untrue. Many people think the brewery pays for the upkeep of the building but this is another untruth. When starting a pub you would buy the lease which could be 25K upwards then the rent charged to the landlord on there own can cripple a business as some are 40K plus a year then your tied to buying beer/larger from the brewery which again is over priced, this can be near double on a barrel so to make a profit is near impossible. An interesting fact this pub as well as a lot is not owned by a brewery its owned by a lease and tenant company Enterprise Inns Plc, the same one that owns the Noah’s also owned The Rose House in Walkley.I fear a lot more pubs will hit the wall if companies like these don’t help there landlords..

we all know that the noahs is now closed but what people dont realise it was not down to the people who run the pub. it was family run and where very well liked by all the regulars and they made it a happy and fun pub. they improved things ie. the quiz etc. they had a good food menu on they tried to reduce the prices to give something back to the locals but as someone has said already that affects profit margins. enterprise inns put the rent up and the cost of beer was double to what you can buy in. how are you meant to run a pub if the prices from the brewery are so high and you also need to consider business rates and all other bills it costs to run a pub. if the brewery reduced their costs then maybe all the local traditional pubs would stand a chance. its just not fair. landladies and landlords loose everything wen they have to give up their pu. brewerys are loosing pubs everyday which pushes their locals out, there have been people going into the noahs for nearly 50 years and its been a very sad time to see it close but i know from close friendships that they tired everything with the brewery to get costs down but they wont budge, if they helped them oput then its safe to say they would still be open today. i wish them luck in whatever they do next

likI said previously, the conspiracy is when the local pubs have shut see how the supermarkets stop their offers and see prices rise. Carling in the supermarket at 50p pint, nearly £3 in pub, you can see the small, real pubs are being screwed by the corporate criminals.

Seemingly yet another pub has fallen on hard times with the reported closure of the Noah's Ark pub at Crookes after the bailiffs moved in this week.
All very disappointing for such a popular and well-appointed pub when once run by John and Tina Pearson, for over twenty years, to see it gradually slide down the pan to this state, once they had left.

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i used to work for tina and john between 1999 and 2001 and i loved working there.

i was really gutted to hear that theyd left and i have to admit i havent been in since then- but this really is sad news.

the noahs always inspired my view of what a 'proper' family run boozer should be like- clean, fresh flowers (needs a landladys touch!;)), the best pub food in crookes and broomhill, and a fantastic set of regulars (especially for brians quiz night). :thumbsup:

its such a shame to see places like this fold in favour of soulless chain pubs and pricey accommodation. :(


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It is sad when a Public House closes down, I was going to go up there sometime in the future.

It is sad when a Public House closes down, I was going to go up there sometime in the future.

I am sure it will re-open again in due course. Most pubs do, its only a few that get pulled down or turned into flats really.

It is sad- we liked Noah's. I heard that the landlord was taking over at the Rutland Arms, but no idea where that came from...

The reason for these pubs closing is the companies that own them are making life impossible for the landlords, it is an atrocious state of affairs, they do their best to get rid of a landlord, hassling them, hiking beer prices etc, so they can encourage a new one to come in, pay a huge " deposit " or for refurbishment work, and in one or two years the cycle is repeated. it is their business model to rake in as much cash as they can. I would only go to pubs that are nothing to do with enterprise inns or similar shyster corporations.

Have to say Noah's Ark has never been one of my favourite pubs on that route (nothing like as lively as the Grindstone, the Ball, the Cobbie and the Springvale) but it is always sad to see an independent close.

I was a bit dissapointed when the interior of the Noahs got painted white,it looked very stark and wasn't the homely little place by day or the bustling place by night that it used to be,I've been going in there since I was 15 and up until a few years ago it was rammed with all sorts,old duffers,builders,students,footy lads,couples,young 'uns on their way out,the lot.The dim and cramped atmosphere was part of the ambience for me.I don't use pubs much these days and if I do I very rarely drink alcohol so maybe I'm prejudiced by sobriety but a lot of them seem to be on the slide in terms of atmosphere.

Can anyone remember exactly when it was "knocked through"?I'm sure it used to be smaller but I must confess to being utterly ****** most of the time I was in there and may simply not have noticed anything more than three quarters of an inch from the bar.

The reason for these pubs closing is the companies that own them are making life impossible for the landlords, it is an atrocious state of affairs, they do their best to get rid of a landlord, hassling them, hiking beer prices etc, so they can encourage a new one to come in, pay a huge " deposit " or for refurbishment work, and in one or two years the cycle is repeated. it is their business model to rake in as much cash as they can. I would only go to pubs that are nothing to do with enterprise inns or similar shyster corporations.

and also increasingly more so at the present, selling them off as real estate to development companies...all their care about is paying off their X million pound debts...

So has it closed down again or has someone just opened up an old thread?

noahs ark is now back it as now been open two months and now selling cask beer farmers blonde black sheep beer price ok good atmosephere

We called in on Sunday and it is looking a lot better than it has done since it first closed up.

Seemed more looked after in terms of cleanliness, beers on sale etc.

Still not what it was but a move in the right direction by the current occupiers.

Use it or lose it folks.

Does the Noah's Ark have a pub quiz?