Thought I'd put this reply in a quieter area, rather than in the General Discussions area.

I am wanting to get as many people to sign a petition in the space of 10 days as possible. Can anyone suggest how I can do it on the forum?

I thought that I would just type out a statement and ask as many to sign as possible.It is a campaign to get Richard Caborn to listen to me when I go to see him soon.

My mission is to give the people of Sheffield who have Asperger Syndrome every possible opportunity to get in to paid employment and for all employers to understand what a positive experience employing someone with this condition can be.At the moment the government has not set money aside to do this, unless someone knows something I dont!
Help is appreciated on how to set this up please.

Espadrille, and this isn't meant to be inflammatory, but just an open question. What extra help are you hoping to get from the Government, and if you think that the needs of those who have Asperger's are not being adequately met, then why restrict it to Sheffield if you're to present the petition to Richard Caborn?

More to the point, can you give him reasons why people with Asperger's should be given extra help/priority over other people with communication problems, or physical disabilities?

I'm not trying to put a spanner in the works (far from it), and I do wish you all the best, but I really don't see what you're driving at. Disability, as I know you know very well, isn't a single issue topic.

I think Wildcat is right about having a report, rather than a petition being the better way to go about things.

Sorry, but no.

Sorry, but no.

No, what? I don't get you.

Thought I'd put this reply in a quieter area, rather than in the General Discussions area.



Espadrille, and this isn't meant to be inflammatory, but just an open question. What extra help are you hoping to get from the Government, and if you think that the needs of those who have Asperger's are not being adequately met, then why restrict it to Sheffield if you're to present the petition to Richard Caborn?

More to the point, can you give him reasons why people with Asperger's should be given extra help/priority over other people with communication problems, or physical disabilities?

I'm not trying to put a spanner in the works (far from it), and I do wish you all the best, but I really don't see what you're driving at. Disability, as I know you know very well, isn't a single issue topic.

I think Wildcat is right about having a report, rather than a petition being the better way to go about things.

Of course you are right to say that disability is not a single issue topic.Its just that i only have personal experience of my own and my families disabilities and that is what I am an expert in, having the business also.

We have discussed all this at the autism alliance meetings and we agreed, I think to fight the campaign for autism.As I know more about Aspergers than autism, I am fighting for the rights of the people who are extremely capable of getting in to work(and the government wants this anyway) but face daily discrimination due to lack of understanding on the part of employers and the general population.They also face a complete misunderstanding on the part of psychiatrists, doctors and other professionals.

I do not like discrimination of any kind, so I will fight for the rights of people that I know and of course I understand what they go through on a daily basis.

No, what? I don't get you.

Maybe he/she means that they will not take part in the petition.

Maybe he/she means that they will not take part in the petition.

Maybe. It just seemed a bit of a weird stand alone comment.

Of course you are right to say that disability is not a single issue topic.Its just that i only have personal experience of my own and my families disabilities and that is what I am an expert in, having the business also.

We have discussed all this at the autism alliance meetings and we agreed, I think to fight the campaign for autism.As I know more about Aspergers than autism, I am fighting for the rights of the people who are extremely capable of getting in to work(and the government wants this anyway) but face daily discrimination due to lack of understanding on the part of employers and the general population.They also face a complete misunderstanding on the part of psychiatrists, doctors and other professionals.

I do not like discrimination of any kind, so I will fight for the rights of people that I know and of course I understand what they go through on a daily basis.

Thanks for that. Have you called the National Autistic Society for a bit of help in presenting your material to Mr Caborn? They might have some extra info you could use (statistics, and the like).

0207 833 2299
Helpline - 0845 070 4004 (Mon-Fri 10-4)

Thanks for that. Have you called the National Autistic Society for a bit of help in presenting your material to Mr Caborn? They might have some extra info you could use (statistics, and the like).

0207 833 2299
Helpline - 0845 070 4004 (Mon-Fri 10-4)

Yes. i have a 300 page report to refer to which interviewed people with As from all over the country, so I am armed with the details, but what i wanted to do was to tell him how much the people of sheffield are affected by the things that go on here in Sheffield and thought that a petition might help. I dont know what influence, if any he has.Maybe I need to take it higher?

Here goes then

We , the undersigned want Sheffield city Council and the Government to look at the needs of people with asperger syndrome, diagnosed and undiagnosed and make the necessary provision to raise awareness of this misunderstood condition.
We also want the relevant people in power to put procedures in place to help to remove the barriers to employment that people with asperger syndrome face and ensure that they are not discriminated against when they apply to get in to paid employment.The relevant support shouold be adequately funded to enable them to do this.
There are many people with Asperger Syndrome who do not reach their full potential due to these problems and we feel that they have a right to lead a life that is fulfilling and rewarding.An enjoyable job can be one way to achieve this.
(Please add signatures or email addresses as you wish.)

Thanks

Can anyone sign up to this???

If you wanted to be cheeky you could sneak a line in there about them meeting the obligations they outlined in the NHS trust (for Sheffields) Consultation document in 2007 which was a response to "Better services for autism" which they have yet to meet. So the if the local NHS trust won't meet its own objectives who will. Its certainly not the community teams at the ground work who are holding things back its the people with the NHS purse strings.

If you wanted to be cheeky you could sneak a line in there about them meeting the obligations they outlined in the NHS trust (for Sheffields) Consultation document in 2007 which was a response to "Better services for autism" which they have yet to meet. So the if the local NHS trust won't meet its own objectives who will. Its certainly not the community teams at the ground work who are holding things back its the people with the NHS purse strings.
Good idea.Do I get your sig then Phil?

I certainly think this is a cause worth a fight for.

More to the point, can you give him reasons why people with Asperger's should be given extra help/priority over other people with communication problems, or physical disabilities?

Its quite simple, their an intelligent under valued and under utilised workforce going to waste. They have economic monetary value attached to them and that is a rather insidious argument to make and I do sincerely apologise as a person working in the learning disability field myself. But quite frankly it comes down to useful and usless. In government terms (not my personal opinion i might add) if your talking about getting a chunk of people off incapacity benefit. Heres an ideal population to begin with. Putting the learning disabled to work under current legislation is considered for the most part to be exploitation and we put up a considerable amount of boundaries for them to even think of contemplating entering the workplace if they are able minded to do so.

Plus I know people would rather not talk about it, but lets face it. There are a lot of arseholes out there who believe in the social darwinist (AKA Eugenics) argument. Throughout politics and the business world. There number one criticism of disability being that there an economic burden on the population and here is an example of a group not being a burden but an under utilised workforce capable of being trainned and specialised to a high degree.

So in a nutshell you can make an argument in a language a politician would like to hear. In a fluffy PC world this would not be a significant motivator in any argument, but sadly we live in a world of uncaring ******** who happen to be tax payers and some of them figured out they have a voting card too.

Good idea.Do I get your sig then Phil?

Sign me up to fight the powers that be

Me too...

ruth

Thanks, but we need more. Why is this not in the main section so that others can see it?

Sign me up too

Thanks, but we need more. Why is this not in the main section so that others can see it?

Because you put it on the end of a reply which I deliberately placed in here to avoid the usual crap that happens when people are confronted with something they don't understand, and/or the usual wind up merchants.

Just create another thread in another section with a link to your petition :thumbsup:

(use the link provided in the original thread so that people can do it online)

Because you put it on the end of a reply which I deliberately placed in here to avoid the usual crap that happens when people are confronted with something they don't understand, and/or the usual wind up merchants.

Just create another thread in another section with a link to your petition :thumbsup:

(use the link provided in the original thread so that people can do it online)
Sorry, but I do not know how to do this. I am not technically minded.

Sorry, but I do not know how to do this. I am not technically minded.

It is no more difficult than completing this online form.

http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

The text of the petition goes in section 1.

I would leave section 2 as the default.

Section 3 you will have to complete.

Name would be Sheffield Asperger's petition for better services... or something like that.

Id as described in accompanying text is just 8 random numbers and numerals for the purpose of keeping the petition seperate from others... the example they give is "qd3d1234" you could use "1234abcd" or any other combination just as easily it doesn't matter what you chose (I think)

Petition Target, is either Caborn, Sheffield Council or the Govt depending on who in particular you want to address the petition to. I have a feeling from your original well written first draft that you want the petition to be multipurpose and directed at all these people. It is a common and understandable mistake. If you make it too general then the petition will look like you are asking for no more than the rights you already should have under the disability discrimination act. You might want to think about being more specific and instead making a point about the NHS trust (for Sheffields) Consultation document in 2007 "Better services for autism" and the recommendations thay have yet to meet (from Laz1981's point).

The rest would be your contact information.

I wouldn't worry if it all goes wrong and you aren't satisifed with the result you can create another one.

It is no more difficult than completing this online form.

http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

The text of the petition goes in section 1.

I would leave section 2 as the default.

Section 3 you will have to complete.

Name would be Sheffield Asperger's petition for better services... or something like that.

Id as described in accompanying text is just 8 random numbers and numerals for the purpose of keeping the petition seperate from others... the example they give is "qd3d1234" you could use "1234abcd" or any other combination just as easily it doesn't matter what you chose (I think)

Petition Target, is either Caborn, Sheffield Council or the Govt depending on who in particular you want to address the petition to. I have a feeling from your original well written first draft that you want the petition to be multipurpose and directed at all these people. It is a common and understandable mistake. If you make it too general then the petition will look like you are asking for no more than the rights you already should have under the disability discrimination act. You might want to think about being more specific and instead making a point about the NHS trust (for Sheffields) Consultation document in 2007 "Better services for autism" and the recommendations thay have yet to meet (from Laz1981's point).

The rest would be your contact information.

I wouldn't worry if it all goes wrong and you aren't satisifed with the result you can create another one.
Thank you Wildcat . This is very useful

It is no more difficult than completing this online form.

http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

The text of the petition goes in section 1.

I would leave section 2 as the default.

Section 3 you will have to complete.

Name would be Sheffield Asperger's petition for better services... or something like that.

Id as described in accompanying text is just 8 random numbers and numerals for the purpose of keeping the petition seperate from others... the example they give is "qd3d1234" you could use "1234abcd" or any other combination just as easily it doesn't matter what you chose (I think)

Petition Target, is either Caborn, Sheffield Council or the Govt depending on who in particular you want to address the petition to. I have a feeling from your original well written first draft that you want the petition to be multipurpose and directed at all these people. It is a common and understandable mistake. If you make it too general then the petition will look like you are asking for no more than the rights you already should have under the disability discrimination act. You might want to think about being more specific and instead making a point about the NHS trust (for Sheffields) Consultation document in 2007 "Better services for autism" and the recommendations thay have yet to meet (from Laz1981's point).

The rest would be your contact information.

I wouldn't worry if it all goes wrong and you aren't satisifed with the result you can create another one.
I did all that and they are meant to send me an email when I signed the petition and how do I put link on the forum now?

I did all that and they are meant to send me an email when I signed the petition and how do I put link on the forum now?

The details and a link to activate the petition should be on the email they sent you.

I have done a search on the site and can't see it.

So if you haven't received the email yet, either you made a mistake typing out your email address or they are slow sending it out.

The details and a link to activate the petition should be on the email they sent you.

I have done a search on the site and can't see it.

So if you haven't received the email yet, either you made a mistake typing out your email address or they are slow sending it out.
My daughter is now trying to get it on form me.
Thanks