Is there anyone out there who lived at cherrytree orphanage between 1947 and 1960?

Susan Chester was a house mother there but I'm not sure of the dates- certainly pre 1967. Any further information gleaned about other people, gratefully received.

Hi sasha 555 I was in cherrytree orphanage from 1948 - 1954. The orphanage was what is now the Cheshire Home just down the lane from the present Cherrytree childrens home. We did not have "house mothers" but a matron called Miss Wilson and various other staff. The old orphanage where I was closed in/ around 1960 when the new one was built which is still there near the Cheshire Home. I remember all the other children and staff from the old home but know nothing of the new one.

yes,i was in the prison known to the outside world as cherrytree from 1934 to 1943 with sis Lt styles incharge what memories it brings back ,.and everybody fell for her claptrap.ii did return in 2004 with my family and just managed to get through it all emotionally

I dont know Cherrytree but it seems to me and what I've read that all orphanage's fm that era were unbelievable cruel and this includes Dr Barnardo's and of course Fullwood, my wife who's father was a police sgt says it use to break his heart to have to take the runaways back, fm what I gather things started to change late 40s early 50s on S.F they start talking about things I've never heard of like dance and trips to the beach,change is slow at times:mad::mad:

I dont know Cherrytree but it seems to me and what I've read that all orphanage's fm that era were unbelievable cruel and this includes Dr Barnardo's and of course Fullwood, my wife who's father was a police sgt says it use to break his heart to have to take the runaways back, fm what I gather things started to change late 40s early 50s on S.F they start talking about things I've never heard of like dance and trips to the beach,change is slow at times:mad::mad:

I remember Cherry Tree from the late 60s early 70s when my sister worked there. She would often take me with her to play with the other kids at Christmas and Easter parties etc. I remember it being quite a happy place all things considered.
It's a bit disturbing for me to hear about these places being cruel in the 40s and 50s, I have an adopted brother who was in Fulwood Cottage homes at this time up until my parents took him when he was around 12.
He never talks about those days and I now wonder if this is why.

hi my name is sandra and i used to live at cherrytree tree in 1956 and iloved iit atcerrytree ilived there with my twin sister marie

For me I'd blanked Fullwood out of mind for 55-60 yrs,i also never spoke about that place of horror only a chance mention on S.F brought it rushing back, my first encounter being an old buddy fm 39-46, of course the war years had rules all of there own & quite possible after the war someone must have taken a long hard look at some of the more brutish house mothers & started to remove them,but I'm only guessing

Is there anyone out there who lived at cherrytree orphanage between 1947 and 1960?
hi, i am sandra i lived @ cherrytree orphanage in 1956 with my twin sister called marina reynolds, would luv to get in touch with old friends who lived @ cherrytree,ie... margaret woolen,ian archibald,johnathan james, michael reynolds.maureen wathall,much obliged sandra.xx

i must say there was and are still many people who were unaware or chose not to know, what went on in these such places .it was just like a p.o.w. camp for children,yes,wedid our best at times to escape, but it was how most people ,including family members,wereso taken in by the staff and more so themad matron. even now i could explain many things and would not be believed,i met up with my sister some time ago and at a family gathering out came a few of the goings on and the children were just gobsmacked.yes icould write a book on this horror house but it would not mean much to many people.however,iwould like to meet up again with a few such as Ronnie Benton,and IrisBenton,Hilda Bradley,Rosie Quantril,Elsie Moffett, Effie Hall,Kieth Hobling,Harry Cam,ihope they are all well,

it took me years to overcome such degradation ihad been put through,and one thing that still gets to me is the fact we had to salute the committee members when we saw them out and about failure resulted in PUNISHMENT if it was the chairman god help you of course some got a name like me,and got blamed for things did not even know about School was bad at times because of being an orphanage boy or girl

I forgot to mention 'Gregory' in my previous dispatches,does anyone know what this is ? it is a powder that we were given for punishment and you nearly choke to death. I am pleased in believing that, Patrica Ann, did not suffer in the same manner I did::

hi my name is sandra and i lived at cherrytree in 1956 and i loved it there the matron at that time was mrs mason and then mrs moore the house mothers ther were miss chester miss goundry miss shaw and soome of the children ther at that time was margaret woolen susan watson ian watson micheal reynolds moreen wathall and sylvia wathall and ian archibald does any body know the wre abouts of any of the kids if so i would love to her from them and the best house mother was mrs archibald some of my good times were at cherrytree hope some one gets in thouch soon also my twin sisters name was called marie sandy d

Hi sasha 555 I was in cherrytree orphanage from 1948 - 1954. The orphanage was what is now the Cheshire Home just down the lane from the present Cherrytree childrens home. We did not have "house mothers" but a matron called Miss Wilson and various other staff. The old orphanage where I was closed in/ around 1960 when the new one was built which is still there near the Cheshire Home. I remember all the other children and staff from the old home but know nothing of the new one.

We are Susan and Ian Watson. Cherrytree 1949/1960.We also remember Miss Wilson. We were both there from being babies till being teenagers. At the time of leaving we were the longest serving "inmates" at the time! I think we probably still hold the record!! Happy memories. We both went back for a nostalgic visit, when it was already a Cheshire Home, and the new Cherrytree was built in the field at the back. They let us wander around. A member of staff told us that they get a lot of old boys and girls returning to see the place. Some from Australia. All saying they remember happy times. Do you see anyone from those days? Susan and Ian (Watson)

hi my name is sandra and i lived at cherrytree in 1956 and i loved it there the matron at that time was mrs mason and then mrs moore the house mothers ther were miss chester miss goundry miss shaw and soome of the children ther at that time was margaret woolen susan watson ian watson micheal reynolds moreen wathall and sylvia wathall and ian archibald does any body know the wre abouts of any of the kids if so i would love to her from them and the best house mother was mrs archibald some of my good times were at cherrytree hope some one gets in thouch soon also my twin sisters name was called marie sandy d

Ian and Susan Watson here! We have LOADS of memories about Cherrytree. We also remember lots of the children that used to be there at the same time as us 1949/1960.The Matron that was there when we left was Mrs Moore. I remember her daughter Janet and her husband Malcome who used to come and see us. Holidays at Butlins. Tea with members of the round table. BIG bonfire nights. Great Christmas Days.Singing Carols outside the dormatries! We were happy! ( Till we left, but that's another story!) Michael Reynolds, Patrick, David Kemp Stuart Raw Celia Reynolds. John James. Margaret Woollen etc. Any news of anyone from that 'era'? From Susan and Ian Watson

Hi Ian & Susan Watson, Do you remember me - Patricia Woodcock? I remember you both very well along with Celia, Pauline, Patrick Reynolds, Catherine & Dorothy Dixon. The staff I remember are Miss Wilson(matron) miss Brown, miss Walker. Not too sure about the others. I was there from 1948 - 1954 & was 11 when I left & went to Halifax to be with my mum. I have mostly good memories of the home but it seems you had much better times after I was there. I don't have any contact with others who were there when I was so it is good to hear from you. Do tell me all about yourselves.
Regards Patricia Ann

Hi Ian & Susan Watson, Do you remember me - Patricia Woodcock? I remember you both very well along with Celia, Pauline, Patrick Reynolds, Catherine & Dorothy Dixon. The staff I remember are Miss Wilson(matron) miss Brown, miss Walker. Not too sure about the others. I was there from 1948 - 1954 & was 11 when I left & went to Halifax to be with my mum. I have mostly good memories of the home but it seems you had much better times after I was there. I don't have any contact with others who were there when I was so it is good to hear from you. Do tell me all about yourselves.
Regards Patricia Ann

Dear Patricia, Great to hear from you. My brother and I went to cherrytree in 1949. Our mother had died. I was only 18 months old and my brother Ian was two and a half. So in 1954 I was only seven!But your name is familiar. We left when we were 12 & 13 respectively.I didn't want to give the impression that it was all roses at Cherrytree, but on the whole I liked Totley Primary School, and life at the home was the only thing we knew! Dad came to visit every visiting day, and he remarried in 1953. They never came to fetch us, but we were quite happy to remain there. Anyway we went 'home' in 1960. After leaving school, Ian joined the army (like most of the lads), & he saw Michael, Dave Stuart and John James, and I came to Nottingham( at 15) to live in at my place of work. I married and have been here ever since! Ian also lives here in Nottingham, not far from us. Tell us your news! Sue and Ian

Sandra! Do you know us? Ian and Susan Watson. My best friend at Cherrytree was Shelagh Plowright. We were there 1949/1960.

Hello Susan good to hear from you again! As I mentioned before, I left Cherrytree and went to live with my mum & stepfather in Halifax. I got married in 1967 and moved to York in 1973. We have 3 children & 6 grandchildren living in different parts of the country. Our daughter, having visited the Chesire Home some years ago urged me to write about my time there as a child. I am now in the process of doing this. I have a copy of the history of Cherrytree and also copies of AGM reports from 1949 - 1960. I would be happy to send you copies if you wish.
Best wishes Patricia

Hello Susan Gruella (Susan and Ian Watson) , I remember you both from my time as house-mother,'Miss Chester' 1956-1960, as well as all the staff and children from that time. Ian might recall me singing the songs badly from My Fair Lady. I haven't seen any mention within the forum yet of the Crabtree family,Stephen and Susan and maybe Harry? Can you remember the horse, Flash, named after the cleaning product. Mr Mason was a rep for the company. I enjoyed my time working at Cherrytree. It was more relaxed when Mrs Moore took over and was a happy home in my memory. Regards, Susan Bell.

:)Hello there Susan! Thanks for e.mailing us. Yes my brother Ian Watson DOES remember you singing songs from My Fair Lady!! We were on the whole happy living at Cherrytree. We knew nothing else. You and Miss Goundry were lovely to us. Mrs Moore was an absolute joy. We kept in touch after we left Cherrytree, and I have letters even when I came to Nottingham to work. She said it was a big mistake to ask our parents to take us home.She and the committee thought it was for the best. It wasn't! Ian had an awful time before he joined the Army at 17.He left home at 15 to work in Derby on a farm. They were terrible to him but he didn't have anywhere to go.My stepmother found me a job in Nottingham as soon as I turned 15.She did me a favour! Ian was very fond of you. He remembers you as a happy person. I can remember Exactly what you looked like then! Can you remember us? Do you remember Shelagh Plowright? David Kemp, Michael Reynolds Stuart Raw and so many more? Write back soon! Regards Susan Grella (nee Watson)

Hello again Susan. Have you got a personal e-mail please which I could contact you on? Many thanks, Susan.

is there anyone out there who lived at cherrytree orphanage between 1947 and 1960?

hi i'm dennis,i lived at cherrytree 1952-1965/6. I remember ian & susan watson,mick reynolds,dave kemp,carol theobold,jean smith and i think her sister,john james &maureen hughes his sister,the wathall sisters & many more

Hi sasha do you remember me dennis morgan 1952 - 1965. I think i remember stephen, if the horde is the one i remember it was white and stood on my foot. Do you rmember a little girl patsy and i think she had a sister lauraine

Hello Susan and Ian Watson, I wasn't at Cherrytree but I do remember you from Totley County. Stuart Raw was also in my class. I'm Gillian (Gregory). Maybe you remember me. I seem to remember Miss Clareborough not showing much understanding or kindness towards you but she wasn't that nice to anyone was she? I became a nurse, moved from Totley in 1968 and had lived in Italy and Scotland before coming to Switzerland in 1977 and have lived there ever since - just retired and have 2 boys in their twenties. All the best, Gillian

Hi out there.

I am researching the cherrytree orphanage from its beginning in 1863 and would love to hear from anyone out there that can either let me have there memories or any photos which would help in my research.

I know some children from the orphanage went into the services when they left there has anyone any information regarding there background.
Look forward to hearing from anyone.
Marlene cherrytree orphanage researcher.at Totley.

dear all from cherry tree orphanage from 1945+ my name is adam reynolds son of michael reynolds and nephew of pauline and patrick reynolds. my family do not talk much of these times but i have heard them mention many names.ie dave kemp and ian watson,my dad mike now lives down south he has 4 boys matthew darren adam and daniel. pauline and patrick are also close by i would love any of you who new them to please get in touch with me many thanks all the best adam reynolds. ps thank you for everything you helped make him the father he is..............

I was told that Marti Cain spent some time here. Is this correct?

Hi Margret yes it's me Mike Reynolds. It's been a lot of years since Cherrytree. I am married with four sons and 7 super grandchildren. I have lived down south 40+ years since leaving the army. I remember many names from back then, yourself, Stuart, David, Ian, and the Reynolds sisters. It brought back a lot of memories seeing all the names in print.

dear all from cherry tree orphanage from 1945+ my name is adam reynolds son of michael reynolds and nephew of pauline and patrick reynolds. my family do not talk much of these times but i have heard them mention many names.ie dave kemp and ian watson,my dad mike now lives down south he has 4 boys matthew darren adam and daniel. pauline and patrick are also close by i would love any of you who new them to please get in touch with me many thanks all the best adam reynolds. ps thank you for everything you helped make him the father he is..............

hi adam my name is john james i was at cherrytreefrom 1951 to 1963 i last saw ur dad about 1966 i also remember having a great week in skegnesswith ur dad and his mate jack i came back to sheffield in 79 after leaving the army lt would be great to get in touch again

hi adam my name is john james i was at cherrytreefrom 1951 to 1963 i last saw ur dad about 1966 i also remember having a great week in skegnesswith ur dad and his mate jack i came back to sheffield in 79 after leaving the army lt would be great to get in touch again

my da left a message on this site please can i have your email address so i can pass it on to him he would love to catch up with you again many thanks adam

my da left a message on this site please can i have your email address so i can pass it on to him he would love to catch up with you again many thanks adam

adam thanks 4 replying my e mail is johnjessejames@live.co.uk am looking forward to hearing from him all the best john

As a matter of interest would there be a list of names of children that were there at anytime

hi adam my name is john james i was at cherrytreefrom 1951 to 1963 i last saw ur dad about 1966 i also remember having a great week in skegnesswith ur dad and his mate jack i came back to sheffield in 79 after leaving the army lt would be great to get in touch again
Hi Jessejames just read your message on forum re cherrytree, please contact me so we can have a chat as I am researching the orphanage and am speaking to some very interesting people. My e-mail address is
jasper1929@hotmail.co.uk.
Hope to hear from you.
Marlene.

As a matter of interest would there be a list of names of children that were there at anytime

Hi chatty lady, if you are interested in names they have a full list from the very beginning of the orphanage back in 1863 I have been and looked at the books, but as I am researching the orphanage I am also speaking to some very interesting people I have left my e-mail address with jessejames.

Hope to hear from you.
Marlene,

i must say there was and are still many people who were unaware or chose not to know, what went on in these such places .it was just like a p.o.w. camp for children,yes,wedid our best at times to escape, but it was how most people ,including family members,wereso taken in by the staff and more so themad matron. even now i could explain many things and would not be believed,i met up with my sister some time ago and at a family gathering out came a few of the goings on and the children were just gobsmacked.yes icould write a book on this horror house but it would not mean much to many people.however,iwould like to meet up again with a few such as Ronnie Benton,and IrisBenton,Hilda Bradley,Rosie Quantril,Elsie Moffett, Effie Hall,Kieth Hobling,Harry Cam,ihope they are all well,

Mickley just thought you would like to know I have been in contact with Harry Camm only a few months ago he came up to Sheffield and we went up to the cherrytree orphanage now Cheshire Homes he had a look round his memory was amazing if you would like to contact me I could give you his details.
Marlene researching Cherrytree Orphanage.

Does anyone remember the Taylors who lived at The Lodge, just below Cherrytree, from around 1931 to 1945/1946?

Does anyone remember the Taylors who lived at The Lodge in Mickley Lane - just below Cherrytree Orphanage? Mr Taylor was the gardener at the orphanage and grew vegetables, including potatoes, for all the children and staff. Mrs Taylor was a cleaner and, one Spring, she was instructed by a smart alec member of staff to wash thirty blankets - for which she was allocated a 6d (old money) packet of Persil washing powder.

Does anyone remember the Taylors who lived at The Lodge in Mickley Lane - just below Cherrytree Orphanage? Mr Taylor was the gardener at the orphanage and grew vegetables, including potatoes, for all the children and staff. Mrs Taylor was a cleaner and, one Spring, she was instructed by a smart alec member of staff to wash thirty blankets - for which she was allocated a 6d (old money) packet of Persil washing powder.

Yes I have been speaking to Barbara Taylor who I understand is Mr. Walter Taylors daughter I was only speaking to her a few nights ago and she was telling me some stories about when her father was the gardener there.

Please contact me again so we can have a chat about Mr. ~Taylor.
Marlene researching the Cherrytree Orphanage.

Hi
I've found a Cherrytree orphanage minute book at a car boot sale. It's dating from Dec 1918 to Dec 1933.
Anyone who would like access to or information from it please get in touch.
Cheers
Andrew

Hi
I've found a Cherrytree orphanage minute book at a car boot sale. It's dating from Dec 1918 to Dec 1933.
Anyone who would like access to or information from it please get in touch.
Cheers
Andrew

Hi andrew 235 I would love to have a look at the book as it is great interest to me as I am researching the Cherrytree, any information I can get hold of will go into my research. Please contact me my e-mail is jasper1929@hotmail.co.uk
Marlene.

marlene i would be very very interested in this book as a person who was in that centre it could not be more obvious, please please ensure i obtain a copy contact me please , tankie1@yahoo.co.uk i await your reply mickley

Is there anyone out there who lived at cherrytree orphanage between 1947 and 1960?

i lived there with my brother who moved to foster parents in meersbrook and i was left in 1959 to fend for myself i too remember the word gregory ,it was given to us as a punishment and used to make me sleep a lot i only had sad memories of the place and would rather forget about it ,i'm now married with a beautiful child and all turned out well ,no thanks to that place:(

it took me years to overcome such degradation ihad been put through,and one thing that still gets to me is the fact we had to salute the committee members when we saw them out and about failure resulted in PUNISHMENT if it was the chairman god help you of course some got a name like me,and got blamed for things did not even know about School was bad at times because of being an orphanage boy or girl

absolutly bang on

As a matter of interest would there be a list of names of children that were there at anytime

can anyone get the names of the kids at cherrytree from 1952/1960 i would really like to see my name and my brother who got stabbed to death in sheffield

Hi andrew 235 I would love to have a look at the book as it is great interest to me as I am researching the Cherrytree, any information I can get hold of will go into my research. Please contact me my e-mail is jasper1929@hotmail.co.uk
Marlene.

i'm prepared to pay a good price for minute books of cherrytree around 1955to 62 need to see a report on me and my brother and why we were punished so much and what punishment was. I remember would just like to see it

Does anyone remember the Taylors who lived at The Lodge in Mickley Lane - just below Cherrytree Orphanage? Mr Taylor was the gardener at the orphanage and grew vegetables, including potatoes, for all the children and staff. Mrs Taylor was a cleaner and, one Spring, she was instructed by a smart alec member of staff to wash thirty blankets - for which she was allocated a 6d (old money) packet of Persil washing powder.

Hi My name is Theresa kemp I remember the Taylors who lived in the lodge below the home, Myself and my brother Peter were sent to cherrytree 1964. MRS Taylor used to let us use the loft above the gararge as a play house, we were there for round about 7 yrs saw a lot of things and did alot of things in rebellion

I was sent to cherrytree with my 2 brothers in 1959 following the breakdown of our parents marriage. It was a horrid time I was told I was an ungratful child because I didn't like custard, ice cream & other such desserts. I remember Maureen Hughes she saved me a number of times from various punishments. Other people I remember were the Gillott brothers, Yvonne Smith, Sharon White & also a brother & sister who came following the death of their parents in a car crash I think. We had to go to church every sunday, I remember Totley C of E school at the christmas play I was told to mime and not sing because I am tone deaf. I liked the school and still drive past it several times a year.

Hello Patricia,

I am a comparatively new member to the Sheffield-forum & as yet have not posted enough messages on the forum to send you a private message - hence the following posted here - that might be of interest to others in this thread.

I am endeavouring to find information about my early years & spotted your message in this thread "I have a copy of the history of Cherrytree and also copies of AGM reports from 1949 - 1960. I would be happy to send you copies if you wish." & wonder if you would kindly share copies of the information with me to help me with my research?

I know I was in a Cherrytree home in the early '50's but cannot remember the exact dates or how long I was there but do remember it was not a happy time for me.

I remember that I was told I was taken to the home because the folks I lived with were going to South Africa to gold mine. I do not know if these folks were actual relatives or had just kindly "taken me in".

I remember that when I left the home I was reunited with my mother who had obtained a housekeeping job in Totley & I went to Totley Junior School - I have group photo of Miss Whites class that I have identified myself in that I would be pleased to share with others, if of interest.

Thanking you in anticipation of your reply.

Hi.

This is the first time I have posted on here. I have come across this site having googled 'Cherrytree' as a place where my Great Auntie had a baby boy in the early 50's.

Sadly she is no longer with us, but as we are now doing our family tree, it transpires that she had a baby which was born in Sheffield at a place referred to only as 'cherrytree'. My Second cousin is now in her 70s, but she recalls my Auntie going to 'cherrytree' in the Nether Edge area, but we cannot find this baby as being registered on any birth lists.

We are eager to find out what happened to the baby boy. We are unsure whether Cherrytree was simply a place for having a baby discreetly, or whether it was an orphanage. As a family we are from Manchester, so she travelled from Manchester to Sheffield to have the baby.

If you have any information on how I would go about tracing this baby Id be really interested in hearing from you.

Cherry tree was the name of a children's home in totley in the 70's . Not sure how long it had been there at the time I was at school but some of the kids I was at school with there . There is a thread on the history ex pats section but I can't remember when it was I saw it . Hope this helps .

I put cherry tree into the search box of history and ex pats forum and quite a few threads came up . I cannot do links but I hope you find what you need. There was one in nether edge too

My cousin recalls visiting the home in Nether Edge and despite it being around 60 years ago, she speaks of what happened vividly. Its is definately Cherrytree, and definately in Nether Edge area. Im eager to find out whether Cherrytree would have been a maternity hospital, or somewhere you had a baby so it could be adopted.

She said the home where she went to see the baby had lots of prams outside. My Great Auntie who had the baby would have been in her 40s but was unmarried and couldnt keep the baby.

Going back through birth records, we have been unable to locate a baby born with her surname around 1950/51. Would you give your real name? What would be on the baby boys birth certificate.

Hi chatty lady, if you are interested in names they have a full list from the very beginning of the orphanage back in 1863 I have been and looked at the books, but as I am researching the orphanage I am also speaking to some very interesting people I have left my e-mail address with jessejames.

Hope to hear from you.
Marlene,

hi marlene ,i have some very sad memories of cherrytree homes ,me and my brother was in there from approx 1956 till about 1962 my brother got adopted and i got left in there ,we were put in there for our safety from our alcoholic father and were treated very cruel in there ,we had gregorys shoved down our throat and i remember clearly choking on the powder,we were always threatened with gregorys if we didn't do thi or that,sad sad memories ,i'd like to see this record to see how long we were actually there,there is a strong memory of a mr marshall ,who was he?

Hi.

This is the first time I have posted on here. I have come across this site having googled 'Cherrytree' as a place where my Great Auntie had a baby boy in the early 50's.

Sadly she is no longer with us, but as we are now doing our family tree, it transpires that she had a baby which was born in Sheffield at a place referred to only as 'cherrytree'. My Second cousin is now in her 70s, but she recalls my Auntie going to 'cherrytree' in the Nether Edge area, but we cannot find this baby as being registered on any birth lists.

We are eager to find out what happened to the baby boy. We are unsure whether Cherrytree was simply a place for having a baby discreetly, or whether it was an orphanage. As a family we are from Manchester, so she travelled from Manchester to Sheffield to have the baby.

If you have any information on how I would go about tracing this baby Id be really interested in hearing from you.

the foster home was on netheredge sheffield ,i think it was even called cherry tree rd ,we were there from 5 yrs old till about 12,dont remember anything about people having babies ,lots of records on this post on this forum might help

hi andrejuan.found your message on this post regarding your brother that you say was adopted from fullwood cottage homes.would you be able to tell me his name.many thanks

Dear Patricia, Great to hear from you. My brother and I went to cherrytree in 1949. Our mother had died. I was only 18 months old and my brother Ian was two and a half. So in 1954 I was only seven!But your name is familiar. We left when we were 12 & 13 respectively.I didn't want to give the impression that it was all roses at Cherrytree, but on the whole I liked Totley Primary School, and life at the home was the only thing we knew! Dad came to visit every visiting day, and he remarried in 1953. They never came to fetch us, but we were quite happy to remain there. Anyway we went 'home' in 1960. After leaving school, Ian joined the army (like most of the lads), & he saw Michael, Dave Stuart and John James, and I came to Nottingham( at 15) to live in at my place of work. I married and have been here ever since! Ian also lives here in Nottingham, not far from us. Tell us your news! Sue and Ian

hi would the michael you mention have the surname tansley many thanks