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Joey
30-07-2008, 22:39
Need a bit of a rant, and then I'll feel better. One of the neighbour's kids came up to me when I got home from work today and asked if I still owned a grey cat. I said yes, and she told me that my cat had been sat on the bonnet of a car further up the street when a woman had come out of the house yelling and shouting at her. Apparently she had a stick and started hitting my cat with it!

I was really calm as the little girl was telling me, and thought maybe she was exaggerating, as kids do. I asked if she had actually hit the cat or had just waved the stick, and she said she thought the cat had been hit as it yelped a few times. Now Fudge is not the fastest cat in the world, but she is very nervous and I reckon if someone came towards her yelling she'd be gone like a shot, so I still think the little girl may have been exaggerating.

That said, at the very least I presume the yelling and shouting and maybe the waving of the stick was true. What is up with people? Its not like my cat could have hurt the car, she's timid and gentle (unless chasing frogs!) and the loveliest cat ever. I have a house full of kittens I'm looking after because they've been mistreated, and now I find out there's a chance my own baby is being mistreated when I'm not here to look after her. If I find out she really did hit my cat, I'll be up there with a much bigger stick to see if a car can yelp as loudly!! The more I think about it the madder I'm getting!! :rant::rant:

Thank you for reading my rant! I feel much better now!!!

medusa
30-07-2008, 22:43
I'm with you on this one Joey! If someone wishes to remove a cat from the bonnet of a car can they not pick up said cat and deposit them on the floor?

There's no excuse for hitting an animal with a stick, whether that animal has just shredded your best rug or are just sitting on your (or someone else's) car.

I'd be going round to have words with them about your 'concerns' after being told that she was scaring the cat.

Joey
30-07-2008, 22:49
I don't actually know which neighbour it was, and I was doing my level best to stay calm and reasonable at the time so never asked. I've been brushing Fudge tonight and she purred her head off as usual so I really doubt she was actually hit, but its just the thought that the intention was there! :(

I think I'll go and ask the little girl tomorrow who it was and have a word when i'm cool and calm again.

Noodle
30-07-2008, 22:49
Even if she was stupid enough to wave a stick, your kitty would have freaked out and probably done a roadrunner style running start and scratched her car. :loopy: Evil woman would of course have deserved it. Instant Karma.

I really hope your kitty is ok, have you felt her for injuries/sore bits? You've done better than me, I would probably have had to be held back from going round and waving a stick at her too like a crazy cat woman. Medusa is of course sensible and right, going round and having a word would be a good idea.

Joey
30-07-2008, 22:52
Lol! Great minds!

hels1977
31-07-2008, 04:32
Cats round here don't stay still long enough to pick them up and put them down - I wish they would! :( They all do a road runner take off from the top of the car (or wherever they are lounging) when they see a human, it has scratched the car a tiny bit but that's no excuse to mistreat an animal. That said the dopey feline that sleeps at the top of the garden is far too lazy to move for any human. :hihi:

I'd try and find out who is doing this and go and see her as calmly as you can to explain that that is not the answer and it's probably putting more scratchs in her car as the cat will be scared. I hope you get it sorted soon.

Cyclone
31-07-2008, 06:51
Cats put scratch marks on cars when they jump on and off. I'd shout at a cat as well if I saw it sat on my car.
Maybe you'll have a bit of a shout if she sends you the bill for a respray.

katkin
31-07-2008, 08:19
Cats put scratch marks on cars when they jump on and off. I'd shout at a cat as well if I saw it sat on my car.
Maybe you'll have a bit of a shout if she sends you the bill for a respray.

get a grip! How much real damage does a cat do jumping on or off a bonnet fcs - it'd have to have claws like freddy kreuger's. You're more likely to get scratches from handbags or parking too close to another vehicle.

There is no excuse for striking an animal. Hope your cat is OK Joey and it may be worth having a friendly caht with the neighbour and suggesting mor ehumane ways of deterring mog from sitting on her prized motor- although if she has whacked at her with a stick, your cat will have the sense to give her a wide berth from now on

Plain Talker
31-07-2008, 08:31
Cats put scratch marks on cars when they jump on and off. I'd shout at a cat as well if I saw it sat on my car.
Maybe you'll have a bit of a shout if she sends you the bill for a respray.

I'd hand her a bottle of "T-cut".... that's all it'd need.

as for striking the cat, that's awful.

If I've ever caught a cat where it oughtn't to be, a sharp sound and a clap of the hands is more than enough to dissuade the animal, and "startle" it into moving on, without the need for any cruelty or histrionics.

Lindseyw
31-07-2008, 09:11
Actually I agree with both opinions here, hitting ANY animal is totally unacceptable, but, when my husband looked at his brand new car bonnet 2 seconds after a kitty had been sitting on it he was not impressed, as for T Cutting it, thats never a great idea, and certainly not on an expensive car. However if he had hit it I'd have hit him twice as hard, he just bend down making strange noises saying 'here kitty kitty' with doggy treats !! Worked though, but there was 3 nasty scratches left.

gatecrasher3
31-07-2008, 12:31
get a grip! How much real damage does a cat do jumping on or off a bonnet fcs - it'd have to have claws like freddy kreuger's. You're more likely to get scratches from handbags or parking too close to another vehicle.

You be suprised how easily the clearcoat on paint can be marked.

I certainly don't agree with any kind of animal cruelty but on the other side I wouldn't be happy with a cat climbing on my car.

Moonbird
31-07-2008, 12:37
You be suprised how easily the clearcoat on paint can be marked.

I certainly don't agree with any kind of animal cruelty but on the other side I wouldn't be happy with a cat climbing on my car.

Actually me either (if I could actually afford one that is :hihi: ) the thing here though is that if you scare the cat overly it is going to be even more inclined to mark the car with its claws in making an hasty retreat, it would probably be best all round to be calm and collected and just move the cat gently if possible.

I can understand people reacting and perhaps shouting to scare the cat away but to hit it with a stick is disgusting in my opinion!

lyndsayx
31-07-2008, 12:52
our cats used to sleep on my parents cars all the time, plus next doors big fat tom cat. never did the paintwork any harm. there's no excuse for trying to hit the cat with a stick, i hope she missed and landed a good one on the bonnet!

Buttercup80
31-07-2008, 13:24
Good grief, what is wrong with people?!! I obviously don't care enough about things like cars because it would never occur to me to think about cat claws scratching my paintwork - i'd be too busy pawing at it and trying to make it purr!

Calm down - even if they do scratch the paintwork it will be so minor that the only person who will see it is the owner who is going over it with a magnifying glass!

Is it obvious that my car is a bit old and crap?!! Come back and ask me if i feel the same when i've got a Ferrari sat in my drive!!!

FallenAngel6
31-07-2008, 13:43
In the end a cat is a living breathing creature that can feel pain...a car is a big lump of metal thats used to get you from a to b. There is no need to strike any animal and if she did hit your cat i'd report her immediately.

We have several cats living on our street and there favourite sleeping place is a car roof or bonnet...there have been no marks except for drool spots...all the marks on the cars have been made by the children playing ball.

If you want a cat off your car and it wont allow you tomove it the best thing to do is splash it with a little water. This doesnt harm the cat or your car and makes the cat think twice before making bed on your bonnet.

Fallen

slimsid2000
31-07-2008, 14:00
Sounds like a nasty piece of work to me this woman.

Cyclone
31-07-2008, 15:29
get a grip! How much real damage does a cat do jumping on or off a bonnet fcs - it'd have to have claws like freddy kreuger's. You're more likely to get scratches from handbags or parking too close to another vehicle.

There is no excuse for striking an animal. Hope your cat is OK Joey and it may be worth having a friendly caht with the neighbour and suggesting mor ehumane ways of deterring mog from sitting on her prized motor- although if she has whacked at her with a stick, your cat will have the sense to give her a wide berth from now on

It puts lots of little scratches on it. More every time it does it.

I'm not, I don't park close to other vehicles and I don't carry a handbag.

As discussed, it's unlikely that the cat was hit, and shouting at it is perfectly reasonable.

Cyclone
31-07-2008, 15:30
I'd hand her a bottle of "T-cut".... that's all it'd need.

as for striking the cat, that's awful.

If I've ever caught a cat where it oughtn't to be, a sharp sound and a clap of the hands is more than enough to dissuade the animal, and "startle" it into moving on, without the need for any cruelty or histrionics.

I expect you'd get it handed straight back. Your cat that causes the damage, you sort it out. And (if it were me), by you, I'd mean a professional, your involvement would end at your cheque book.

Buttercup80
31-07-2008, 15:43
I'm pretty sure you couldn't find a judge in the land that would enforce a cat owner to pay for professional re-spraying or whatever you would need!

Cyclone
31-07-2008, 16:34
That's probably what cat owners rely on, they count as wild animals right, not the owners responsibility.

I'd guess that means that chasing them off with a stick is perfectly valid, you wouldn't let any other animal sit on your car would you.

You can't have it both ways. Either you're responsible for it, in which case that means any damage it does, cleaning up it's mess from other peoples gardens and what not, or you're not, in which case you have no grounds for complaint.

mc55
31-07-2008, 18:16
my OH's mum's cats sit on my car whenever we visit and all I've ever noticed are muddy footprints.

I find two legged creatures do way more damage and on a very frequent basis. My brand new car was dinged within a week - it had been parked briefly (20 mins) in a supermarket car park. I lost count of the dings on my old car and none of them were caused by me or four legged creatures.

Joey
31-07-2008, 18:23
That's probably what cat owners rely on, they count as wild animals right, not the owners responsibility.



Yeah that's right, obviously we have no other thoughts in our head when we first get a cat other than the fact that at last we'll get away with putting miniscule little scratches, or worse, muddy foot prints on our neighbours' cars. No come back, the whole weight of the law on our side. Wow, why does anybody NOT want a cat? :rolleyes:

the peggsta
31-07-2008, 18:34
Cats do scratch cars,it doesnt matter how much damage they is,if someone came to buy a car and noticed scatches the potential buyer will try nocking a few hundred quid of the sale price.I wouldnt try hurting the cat but i would hold the owner responsable for the damage,same as if a child scraped the car with a bike i would hold the parents responsable for the cost,as it happens my car is a bit of a shed so i wouldnt be to bothered,but if i paid a few grand i would feel different.

mc55
31-07-2008, 19:00
I'm sorry, but I fail to see that in a cars lifetime it will depreciate significantly because of a few scratches that may have been caused by a cats claws. What about the chips you pick up from bits of grit / stones chucked up by other peoples tires when you are driving - perhaps we should hunt them down, show then the evidence and force them to pay for a respray.

If you had that flash a car that every single tiny scratch mattered, surely you would be able to afford some sort of storage, such as a garage to keep it in pristine condition.

gatecrasher3
31-07-2008, 19:07
I'm sorry, but I fail to see that in a cars lifetime it will depreciate significantly because of a few scratches that may have been caused by a cats claws. What about the chips you pick up from bits of grit / stones chucked up by other peoples tires when you are driving - perhaps we should hunt them down, show then the evidence and force them to pay for a respray.

If you had that flash a car that every single tiny scratch mattered, surely you would be able to afford some sort of storage, such as a garage to keep it in pristine condition.

I think you're failing to see the point here. People that do take care of their cars won't want them scratching regardless of how trivial you think it may be. So why the hell would they be happy with a cat they don't even own climbing all over it.

And before you jump all over me for condoning cruelty to cats, I most certainly don't. Surely the owners do have a responsibility to keep their pets under control?

the peggsta
31-07-2008, 19:08
If someone came to buy a car he/she would look for any scatch big or small,anything for an excuse to save a few quid,why should car owners hide cars away from cats,cat owners should take reponsabilty for they pets,same as dog owners do and parents do[well most do]

SpeedDemon
31-07-2008, 19:53
Surely the owners do have a responsibility to keep their pets under control?

I've told my cats time n time again it's naughty to sit on mine or the neighbours cars. They must have listened to me when I threatened to ground them and stop their pocket money, as they don't do it! :rolleyes:

Either that or the fact that next door have a van, and my bonnet is so sloping they'd fall off anyway...
I don't think I'd be too impressed with cats sitting on my car, but at the end of the day, you cant stop them doing it so moaning at the owners won't do any good. They're FAR too intelligent to take notice of us mere mortals. Squirt water at them by all means, or a loud clap of the hands usually works when mine are doing something unsavoury but hitting them isn't the answer. Not every cat can be an indoor cat.

gatecrasher3
31-07-2008, 21:19
I've told my cats time n time again it's naughty to sit on mine or the neighbours cars. They must have listened to me when I threatened to ground them and stop their pocket money, as they don't do it! :rolleyes:

Be as sarcastic as you feel the need to be but at the end of the day you have a responsibility to keep your pet under control. If your cat did scratch a car regardless of how insignificant you though the damage to be would you be willing to pay for the damage to be repaired to the owners satisfaction?

May not be a big issue to you but there are many car owners, myself included that wouldn't want a cat climbing on it.

geerarffe
31-07-2008, 21:28
The possible scratches aren't the issue here are they? No. The issue is the method the car owner decided was appropriate to remove the cat. She could have just clapped her hands, shouted or sprayed water at the cat. The stick and the possibility she hit the cat is unacceptable.

Do you not agree?

gatecrasher3
31-07-2008, 21:32
The possible scratches aren't the issue here are they? No. The issue is the method the car owner decided was appropriate to remove the cat. She could have just clapped her hands, shouted or sprayed water at the cat. The stick and the possibility she hit the cat is unacceptable.

Do you not agree?

Completely agree that hitting the cat is unacceptable as you will have seen when you read my earlier posts. Yes?

What I disagree with is the opinion of a few posters on the thread that think it is acceptable for cats to climb and cause damage to cars because "that's just what cats do."

Evei
31-07-2008, 21:45
I have to admitt I'm not a cat lover, but I'd never hit an animal.

I tend to throw gravel in the direction of a cat if it comes into the garden, it makes a loud noise that scares the cats off without it geting hit (I DON'T throw the gravel at the cat) I suppose if someone saw me do it they may think I'm being cruel and actually hitting the cat, but I think me scaring it off is better than my dog getting hold of it.

When my dog was away when I was on Holiday I came back to a garden full of sloppy cat poo's that had welded onto the rockery stones. I think the cat was getting me back! :lol:

Joey
31-07-2008, 21:48
What I disagree with is the opinion of a few posters on the thread that think it is acceptable for cats to climb and cause damage to cars because "that's just what cats do."

I don't agree that it is alright for any creature, animal or human, to damage the property of others. However, animals do not have morals, they do what is natural to them. Birds fly across the sky and plop on whatever happens to be underneath them. They are not in the least bit conscious of what they are damaging. Cats find a nice, comfortable place to relax in the sun. They are not aware of how much that surface costs. A woman hitting my cats with a stick is completely aware of the fact that she is going to hurt the cat, she has a conscience, whether or not it works properly, and as a human being she hopefully has some morals. The kids who throw stones at my car are the same. There is no excuse for them.

I love my cats, and I would be really upset if I found out that they had scratched someone's car, and I would do anything in my power to make sure it didn't happen again. But I would never, ever condone anyone hurting my cats or anyone elses' for that matter.

Cyclone
31-07-2008, 22:06
I'm sorry, but I fail to see that in a cars lifetime it will depreciate significantly because of a few scratches that may have been caused by a cats claws. What about the chips you pick up from bits of grit / stones chucked up by other peoples tires when you are driving - perhaps we should hunt them down, show then the evidence and force them to pay for a respray.

If you had that flash a car that every single tiny scratch mattered, surely you would be able to afford some sort of storage, such as a garage to keep it in pristine condition.

Your failure to appreciate it doesn't alter the fact that your animal is causing damage to someone elses property.
Should I have to pay at least 10k to build a garage to stop your cat scratching my car? I don't think that's generally how the law works.

Cyclone
31-07-2008, 22:07
The possible scratches aren't the issue here are they? No. The issue is the method the car owner decided was appropriate to remove the cat. She could have just clapped her hands, shouted or sprayed water at the cat. The stick and the possibility she hit the cat is unacceptable.

Do you not agree?

A possibility isn't unacceptable. Only if she did hit the cat, which I think we all agree is unlikely, is it unacceptable.

MK Ultra
01-08-2008, 12:49
As a responsible cat owner, I do see the point of cyclone and gatecrasher. We've told our neighbours that if they see either of our cats pooing in their garden, just give us a shout and we'll be right over to remove said poo. Likewise, if someone said that one of our cats had scratched their car, and was definitely sure it was one of ours, then I'd take responsibility for it.

Having said that, if I found out about someone abusing or hitting one of our animals, I'd be straight round there and I wouldn't very accommodating believe me..

katkin
01-08-2008, 13:14
Cats do scratch cars,it doesnt matter how much damage they is,if someone came to buy a car and noticed scatches the potential buyer will try nocking a few hundred quid of the sale price.I wouldnt try hurting the cat but i would hold the owner responsable for the damage,same as if a child scraped the car with a bike i would hold the parents responsable for the cost,as it happens my car is a bit of a shed so i wouldnt be to bothered,but if i paid a few grand i would feel different.

but the minute you drive the blasted thing off the forecourt and take it on a motorway or in a carpark, it's already accumulating scratches and dints- much more than it will ever get from a tiny cat's foot. If you don't want scratches and wear and tear, keep it wrapped in cotton wool and in the garage. You cannot train a cat to stay off someone's car. If the owner has an issue with it, tell them to get a water pistol or a suirty bottle.

Plain Talker
01-08-2008, 16:21
but the minute you drive the blasted thing off the forecourt and take it on a motorway or in a carpark, it's already accumulating scratches and dints- much more than it will ever get from a tiny cat's foot. If you don't want scratches and wear and tear, keep it wrapped in cotton wool and in the garage. You cannot train a cat to stay off someone's car. If the owner has an issue with it, tell them to get a water pistol or a suirty bottle.

Quite, if you want an unscratched car, buy a flaming Matchbox or Dinky-toy and keep the blooming thing in it's box.

It won't depreciate quite as much as a real car, either! hehe

muckynees
01-08-2008, 17:08
but the minute you drive the blasted thing off the forecourt and take it on a motorway or in a carpark, it's already accumulating scratches and dints- much more than it will ever get from a tiny cat's foot. If you don't want scratches and wear and tear, keep it wrapped in cotton wool and in the garage. You cannot train a cat to stay off someone's car. If the owner has an issue with it, tell them to get a water pistol or a suirty bottle.
I think your talking about stone chips,i would class that as general wear and tear but i wouldnt class cat scratches as such some people on here keep repeating"a cat can only make tiny scratches"as if its ok because its small tell me your address and i will come round and make small scratches on your car,it wont matter because i will make em small,so its alright no trouble you wont mind,will you??????

Fishpole
01-08-2008, 19:15
As a responsible cat owner, I do see the point of cyclone and gatecrasher. We've told our neighbours that if they see either of our cats pooing in their garden, just give us a shout and we'll be right over to remove said poo. Likewise, if someone said that one of our cats had scratched their car, and was definitely sure it was one of ours, then I'd take responsibility for it.

Having said that, if I found out about someone abusing or hitting one of our animals, I'd be straight round there and I wouldn't very accommodating believe me..

Great post! :thumbsup:

Cyclone
01-08-2008, 20:16
Quite, if you want an unscratched car, buy a flaming Matchbox or Dinky-toy and keep the blooming thing in it's box.

It won't depreciate quite as much as a real car, either! hehe

So if I come along and sit on your car (I may weigh more than a cat) we can say it's okay, because afterall, your car will eventually be scrapped anyway. The fact that I (or a cat) is making the situation worse, that would be perfectly okay, by your logic.

Buttercup80
02-08-2008, 08:01
I think your talking about stone chips,i would class that as general wear and tear but i wouldnt class cat scratches as such some people on here keep repeating"a cat can only make tiny scratches"as if its ok because its small tell me your address and i will come round and make small scratches on your car,it wont matter because i will make em small,so its alright no trouble you wont mind,will you??????

Well, as i never got the dent fixed that was caused by a taxi driver reversing into my stationary car, i probably wouldn't mind a few scratches that much!

Seriously though, point taken but if you came round to my house to scratch the car, you'd be doing it with intent. The cat doesn't. It's not the same thing at all

Cyclone
02-08-2008, 09:19
Does that make it all okay then, that the cat doesn't understand? I don't think so, a child probably wouldn't understand either, but you wouldn't let yours go around scratching cars.

Twiglet
02-08-2008, 16:03
The possible scratches aren't the issue here are they? No. The issue is the method the car owner decided was appropriate to remove the cat. She could have just clapped her hands, shouted or sprayed water at the cat. The stick and the possibility she hit the cat is unacceptable.

Do you not agree?

I simply don't believe it happened. Perhaps the child saw the woman gently prodding the cat with a stick? We have neighbour's cats that sit and watch our guinea pigs on the lawn, and I only have to open our back door for them to be off like a shot. If a woman was hitting the cat with a stick, then the cat must be pretty damn stupid to sit there whilst she did it.

hels1977
02-08-2008, 18:37
I simply don't believe it happened. Perhaps the child saw the woman gently prodding the cat with a stick? We have neighbour's cats that sit and watch our guinea pigs on the lawn, and I only have to open our back door for them to be off like a shot. If a woman was hitting the cat with a stick, then the cat must be pretty damn stupid to sit there whilst she did it.

I think you're right but if the cat was oustanding slow/sopey then it could be feasible. I certainly have *never* met a cat that will sit still and let me remove it from the top of the car, they're gone like a bat out of hell the minute I open the front door.

I'll leave the scratchs argument alone - other than to say a car doesn't have to be a Ferrari or new for the owner to get rather annoyed that a cat is busy scratching it on a daily basis. ;) It's still property which you pay money to maintain, therefore a feline leaving marks on it is going to understandably cause resentment.

Mk Ultra - you sound like a responsible cat owner with your head screwed on.:thumbsup: I wish you owned one of the numurous cats that crap in our garden. :help: Need some lion poo.

wondertec
02-08-2008, 19:45
You can't control what your cat does when it's outside.....! I'm sure even if it did go on the car bonnet, it's not as bad as the girl made out?

Hope the kitty is ok tho....

If i saw or knew someone had hurt my cats...............i wouldn't be resonable or responsible for my actions.

the peggsta
02-08-2008, 20:23
If i knew someone,or the owner of a cat who had scratched my car i wouldnt be resonable or responsible for my actions.If you own a pet take responsibilty for the damage it does.

Cyclone
03-08-2008, 01:12
You can't control what your cat does when it's outside.....! I'm sure even if it did go on the car bonnet, it's not as bad as the girl made out?

Hope the kitty is ok tho....

If i saw or knew someone had hurt my cats...............i wouldn't be resonable or responsible for my actions.

Would you be responsible for the respray, or does this lack of responsibility go both ways?

mackie69
03-08-2008, 12:58
it only a car and my seven cats sleep on mine and dont do any damage and the person with the stick would need it surgically removed

wondertec
03-08-2008, 17:53
Would you be responsible for the respray, or does this lack of responsibility go both ways?

What lack of responsibilty? Is it responsible to hurt a defenceless animal?
How would you prove the scratches weren't ALREADY on the car?

Cyclone
03-08-2008, 20:37
What lack of responsibilty? Is it responsible to hurt a defenceless animal?
How would you prove the scratches weren't ALREADY on the car?

So now you accept that cats cause scratches but you'd try to duck the issue by asking for proof that it was a specific cat?

As to hurting it, as already discussed there is little chance that the cat was hit with a stick is there.

wondertec
03-08-2008, 21:33
I'm not ducking the issue, i am mearly asking how does anyone know if scratches were already present or not?! and the orgin of them if they were some there....

Cyclone
04-08-2008, 06:26
The car certainly doesn't come out of the showroom with tiny claw marks on it, and muddy cat footprints up the bonnet.
Unless you can suggest some other 'cat like' animal that might have caused those, I think the evidence is fairly strong.

Strix
04-08-2008, 12:57
How about the cat owner just agrees to pay for all damage caused to the vehicle however often? ... and perhaps for the hire of a car for whilst it's in the garage?

isn't that just the sensible answer, and nobody has to fall out

funnily enough, although our astra had cat claw marks in its paintwork, we've never had the same problem with the Zafira, but maybe sleeping on a bonnet which slopes so much that any cat would have to cling to the windscreen wipers to do so isn't very comfortable :P

Lotti
04-08-2008, 13:25
If somebody came to me with evidence that my cat had damaged their car, I would certainly take responsibility. I'd probably have a giggle and think they were daft... but I'd take responsibility.

No evidence - no pay up I'm afraid.

However - if I had evidence of someone attempting to hurt any of my animals, they would have more to worry about than a few mini scratches on their bonnet!

I can perfectly understand not wanting to lift a cat off of a car, my cat used to sleep on a neighbour's car (right on the roof) and she's not all that approachable, she's not nasty but she's nervous and if you tried to pick her up off the roof of a car when she'd been asleep you'd probably end up scratched.

However there are much better ways of moving a cat that running out like a banshee waving a stick around. Actually - I'd be really ashamed if anyone saw me doing that! :lol:

the peggsta
04-08-2008, 17:44
How about the cat owner just agrees to pay for all damage caused to the vehicle however often? ... and perhaps for the hire of a car for whilst it's in the garage?

isn't that just the sensible answer, and nobody has to fall out

funnily enough, although our astra had cat claw marks in its paintwork, we've never had the same problem with the Zafira, but maybe sleeping on a bonnet which slopes so much that any cat would have to cling to the windscreen wipers to do so isn't very comfortable :P
Well we dont always agree with each other,but this time i agree with you absolutly:thumbsup:

Cyclone
04-08-2008, 18:16
If somebody came to me with evidence that my cat had damaged their car, I would certainly take responsibility. I'd probably have a giggle and think they were daft... but I'd take responsibility.

No evidence - no pay up I'm afraid.

However - if I had evidence of someone attempting to hurt any of my animals, they would have more to worry about than a few mini scratches on their bonnet!

I can perfectly understand not wanting to lift a cat off of a car, my cat used to sleep on a neighbour's car (right on the roof) and she's not all that approachable, she's not nasty but she's nervous and if you tried to pick her up off the roof of a car when she'd been asleep you'd probably end up scratched.

However there are much better ways of moving a cat that running out like a banshee waving a stick around. Actually - I'd be really ashamed if anyone saw me doing that! :lol:

A supersoaker for example, or the garden hose.

Lotti
04-08-2008, 18:36
Actually a spray bottle would probably do the trick, you needn't use a supersoaker ;)

Oh and if I hadn't seen my cat on someone else's car and someone came to me saying my cat had scratched their car, yes I would want proof! Why should I pay for a respray if I don't know it was my cat?! :lol:

That said, I'm honest enough to admit it if I did see my cat scratch someone else's car!

Joey
04-08-2008, 19:43
A supersoaker for example, or the garden hose.

I'd have absolutely no problem with someone spraying my cat with water if it was messing in their garden or scratching their car. (I'm not sure about the supersoaker though!!:suspect:) The point is that there are easier and much more effective ways of convincing a cat not to come near your property than swinging a stick about and screaming.

Cyclone
04-08-2008, 20:36
I'm sure screaming works, if the supersoaker isn't to hand.

Joey
04-08-2008, 20:51
I'm sure screaming works, if the supersoaker isn't to hand.

:hihi: probably works, but doesn't half make you look like a drama queen!!

Cyclone
04-08-2008, 20:54
Fun for all the street, especially if they have the video camera out. Get it up on youtube to share the excitement.

FallenAngel6
08-08-2008, 19:49
I think everyone needs to stop and breath. lol. I have never known for any of the cats round here to seriously damage anyones car. My next door neighbour finds cats sleepng on his car and he has never had a problem with it. It is true that children and people cause more damage than animals.
Cats are independent and whether us owners lke it or not they only really come to us for food and water and warmth...they do what they want when they want. They are completely unlike dogs. Dogs need human care if we were to make a dog live out in the wild it would more than likely die. A cat however would survive. My point is it is impossible for owners to control cats...they do what they wish.
If the owner of the Car is positive it is the cat that is causing the scratches they should tell the cat owner and the cat owner should take responsibility for it.

However i will agree with the few people on here that it is probably not the cats that are causing scratches on the car. When a cat jumps they do not necessarily have to use their claws, cats land softly on almost level surfaces...if its a really slanted surface like a tree trunk they will use there claws but if you watch a cat when it lands or walks, its claws are more than likely retracted...you are more likely to cause damage to your car by scaring the crap out of the cat because when a cat is frightened they automatically let the claws out.

The simple thing here is if you see a cat on your bonnet and you thing it is causing damage then by all means spray it with a little water or clap your hands but, if i saw anyone threatening to hit my cat or doing anything that might hurt it i'd have them reported immediately to the RSPCA...

So dont take any crap out on me, i am not siding with anyone i do agree that the damage to cars should be covered IF the damage was made by the cat...but i do not agree that its the owners or the cats fault and i think the chances the cat made the scratches are slim.

Fallen

Strix
08-08-2008, 23:13
I find cat ownership fascinating

the above post sums up the general attitude perfectly

It's riddled with complete lack of responsibility towards not only other people on the planet, but the pets themselves - which I just can't comprehend

btw - I've seen and heard a cat climb up the side of my car, bracing itself against the fence I was parked against. The sets of four parallel vertical scratches arranged in an arc didn't buff out

Joey
09-08-2008, 08:00
This seems to be forming into sides with people who love cats on one side and people who love cars on the other. If you were to look at which of these causes the most damage, i'm sorry but cars win hands down.

Wish you car owners would train your cars not to knock children down, cause pot holes in the road outside my house, make that god-awful honking sound when they want someone's attention, pollute the air me and my cats are trying to breathe and cause people to be obese because they can't be bothered to walk anywhere anymore.

:thumbsup:

Cyclone
09-08-2008, 08:43
This seems to be forming into sides with people who love cats on one side and people who love cars on the other. If you were to look at which of these causes the most damage, i'm sorry but cars win hands down.
That isn't the question though, what damage a car might cause is completely irrelevant. What matters is whether something you own damages something I own.

Wish you car owners would train your cars not to knock children down, cause pot holes in the road outside my house, make that god-awful honking sound when they want someone's attention, pollute the air me and my cats are trying to breathe and cause people to be obese because they can't be bothered to walk anywhere anymore.

:thumbsup:

That's all complete nonsense. Cars do nothing on their own, and when a driver causes damage they are held responsible. Now if we can get cat owners to take responsibility then everyones equal.

Moonbird
09-08-2008, 09:18
This thread is going round and round in circles, perhaps it's time to give up on it? :hihi:

Joey
09-08-2008, 11:17
I find cat ownership fascinating

the above post sums up the general attitude perfectly

It's riddled with complete lack of responsibility towards not only other people on the planet, but the pets themselves - which I just can't comprehend



Cyclone, it was the above quote that instigated the "complete nonsense" that you refer to. The world is made of people, countries, nations who have a complete lack of responsibility towards other people on the planet. In the scheme of things, my cat sitting on someone's car to catch a bit of sun is irrelevant.

Moonbird, feel free to close the thread if you wish. :thumbsup:

hels1977
09-08-2008, 12:06
Cyclone, it was the above quote that instigated the "complete nonsense" that you refer to. The world is made of people, countries, nations who have a complete lack of responsibility towards other people on the planet. In the scheme of things, my cat sitting on someone's car to catch a bit of sun is irrelevant.

Moonbird, feel free to close the thread if you wish. :thumbsup:

Not if it's causing damage in doing so - that's not irrelevant at all. Now - did you ever find out if the woman was actually hiting your cat and wether the cat did sit there and take the "beating" or not?

geerarffe
09-08-2008, 13:19
Can everyone just stop getting so snappy and taking cheap shots at each other. The OP posted because they were upset about the thought of someone mistreating their cat. If anyone of you had heard that someone had done the same to one of your pets (proof or not and no matter how unlikely) You'd be upset. Since posting all the OP has had is a massive debate thrown at them about the rights and wrongs of the cat being on the car. Has nothing to do with the OP. I can only assume that the people who have done nothing but criticise the OP for "letting" their cat sleep on the car roof are not pet owners or simply couldn't care less.

If someone came up and told me what the child told the OP I'd be extremely upset. Can't speak for some of the other people who have posted on this thread.

Strix
09-08-2008, 14:52
Well perhaps we could examine how people would feel about a roaming dog being seen off with a stick having caused damage to another's property? Just to get a measure of how responsible or otherwise we expect a pet owner to be

How come us dog owners are expected to be mortified, embarrassed and eager to pay up if our dog does damage, but cat owners seem to have a 'couldn't care less, my cat's your problem' attitude :huh:

geerarffe
09-08-2008, 15:33
Not all cat owners think like that though. If a dog were roaming and did cause damage it would still be wrong to see it off with a stick. Again it's not the damage that was the orinal issue it was the owners upset at hearing that their cat could have been treated like that.

cuddlycats
09-08-2008, 16:27
I find cat ownership fascinating

the above post sums up the general attitude perfectly

It's riddled with complete lack of responsibility towards not only other people on the planet, but the pets themselves - which I just can't comprehend

btw - I've seen and heard a cat climb up the side of my car, bracing itself against the fence I was parked against. The sets of four parallel vertical scratches arranged in an arc didn't buff out

I don't think its fair to generalize. I have 3 cats, all are house cats. They dont destroy anybodys property but my own.

Moonbird
09-08-2008, 16:32
I'm sure that there is nothing new to add to this that hasn't been said a dozen times :hihi: so lets call a halt to it now...some interesting points have been raised though on both sides of the debate :thumbsup:

Strix
17-08-2008, 23:07
...
funnily enough, although our astra had cat claw marks in its paintwork, we've never had the same problem with the Zafira, but maybe sleeping on a bonnet which slopes so much that any cat would have to cling to the windscreen wipers to do so isn't very comfortable :PAfter posting this, I just had share this with everybody on this thread:

Our Zafira has just done some significant motorway mileage, so it's a bit grubby to say the least. As I walked past it's nose this afternoon, I was bemused to see paw prints on the bonnet! Well after this thread, that was just putting the top hat on it!

... then I looked closer :suspect:, and laughed :hihi: The paw prints are in fact a rather Tom and Jerry affair, all four paws being visible, but two of them being streaked down the steeply sloping bonnet, and some unpleasant looking splat and smear marks on the top side of the bumper - presumably where some dopey puss has slid off whilst trying to mount our car :hihi: :D

I've tried taking a pic, but I may need to photoshop it a bit so you can see exactly how comical the whole thing looks!

ContraryMary
19-08-2008, 16:49
btw - I've seen and heard a cat climb up the side of my car, bracing itself against the fence I was parked against. The sets of four parallel vertical scratches arranged in an arc didn't buff out

Strange cat! Most cats would opt to climb up the fence and brace themselves against the car! :hihi:

Strix
19-08-2008, 17:07
yeah well, they obviously ain't all as intelligent as some people would have you believe :rolleyes: (did you see my last post too? :hihi: )