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amyrach
28-07-2008, 11:39 PM
my new staffie bitch roxy is in pup due end of august bless her:love:

pinklady
28-07-2008, 11:48 PM
Havent you just sold a load of staffie pups?

ami_j
28-07-2008, 11:51 PM
fantastic...sure the tonnes in rescue already will agree

pets@home
28-07-2008, 11:53 PM
why???????????

pinklady
29-07-2008, 12:00 AM
why???????????????

obviosly to make money ......... the poor dog

pets at home .... could you edit your post with less ?'s in please .... its making replying a bit difficult

pets@home
29-07-2008, 12:06 AM
But why do people pay high prices when rescue`s are practually giving them away , if you wiegh things up

mrs gough
29-07-2008, 12:24 AM
Tut tut, were you not asking for bitch spray the other day?
Did you not manage to get any?

Strix
29-07-2008, 12:24 AM
soooo - how many litters is it before you have to register as a breeder?

SpeedDemon
29-07-2008, 12:27 AM
wasn't the last litter of staffies from amyrach's sister's dog, not her own?

Moonbird
29-07-2008, 12:32 AM
wasn't the last litter of staffies from amyrach's sister's dog, not her own?

Yes it was her sisters dog.

Please lets not let this deteriorate into an argument folks.

Strix
29-07-2008, 12:32 AM
no idea - was it?

how are all of those doing Amyrach?

Lotti
29-07-2008, 12:32 AM
I think it's actually if you have more than one breeding bitch isn't it Strix?

I was so saddened when I saw this thread title :(

Strix
29-07-2008, 12:33 AM
there's a whole heap of criteria Lotti - none of which I know as I don't breed ;)

amyrach
29-07-2008, 12:40 AM
:huh:right lets get this straight none of you are qualified to comment on this while you know the full story

last week i took this dog off a lad who obviously wasnt feeding her so i wanted to get the best home she could have.

im quite aware of staffies in rescue if it wasnt for me mentioning to moonbird about bedding then it would have been overlooked

so dont leave your pathetic comments til you know the reason

amyrach
29-07-2008, 12:41 AM
no idea - was it?

how are all of those doing Amyrach?

my dogs are fine all neutered and spayed thanks for asking

amyrach
29-07-2008, 12:41 AM
obviosly to make money ......... the poor dog

pets at home .... could you edit your post with less ?'s in please .... its making replying a bit difficult

i NEVER make money out of my dogs

amyrach
29-07-2008, 12:42 AM
fantastic...sure the tonnes in rescue already will agree

im sure they will:huh:

Strix
29-07-2008, 12:50 AM
my dogs are fine all neutered and spayed thanks for askingI was asking about the last batch of pups, not your dogs :suspect:

Moonbird
29-07-2008, 12:51 AM
Well done for taking her in and helping, is it too late to still get her spayed?

amyrach
29-07-2008, 12:54 AM
I was asking about the last batch of pups, not your dogs :suspect:

gone to new homes

amyrach
29-07-2008, 12:55 AM
Well done for taking her in and helping, is it too late to still get her spayed?

no been to vets she could give birth between 16th-30 august

Moonbird
29-07-2008, 01:00 AM
no been to vets she could give birth between 16th-30 august

Poor thing...well at least she will be getting enough nourishment for the pups now, and you can make sure that they get really good responsible homes.

amyrach
29-07-2008, 01:02 AM
thankyou moonie i will she is scoffing for sheffield

Strix
29-07-2008, 01:05 AM
gone to new homesyeeeesssss - that's the obvious part - how are they doing NOW?

amyrach
29-07-2008, 01:07 AM
er....yes they are fantastic pups

Strix
29-07-2008, 01:17 AM
so basically you don't know? :confused:

amyrach
29-07-2008, 01:18 AM
so basically you don't know? :confused:

why should i know they were my sis pups and has it ever occured to you it might not be none of your business:huh:

kblade
29-07-2008, 01:36 AM
I know it's all to easy to have a go at Staffie owners for breeding but from what I can see there really is no need to have a go at the OP here. Dogs... any dogs... will be bred or will get 'caught out' to the best of us. By the looks of it this lady has taken in this dog from a horrible situation and is making the best of what she has which is a pregnant pooch.

I'm a Staffie 'mom' myself and I cannot bare the amount that are in rescue. I also cannot bare the bad press they get or the slating we owners that DO take responsibilty for our pets get due to idiots with ego's. I live near the OP judging by her location and trust me I've seen many worse dog owners around here recently and none have been Staffies :( Seems they're not 'cool' anymore :rolleyes: :rant:

Moonbird
29-07-2008, 01:39 AM
I know it's all to easy to have a go at Staffie owners for breeding but from what I can see there really is no need to have a go at the OP here. Dogs... any dogs... will be bred or will get 'caught out' to the best of us. By the looks of it this lady has taken in this dog from a horrible situation and is making the best of what she has which is a pregnant pooch.

I'm a Staffie 'mom' myself and I cannot bare the amount that are in rescue. I also cannot bare the bad press they get or the slating we owners that DO take responsibilty for our pets get due to idiots with ego's. I live near the OP judging by her location and trust me I've seen many worse dog owners around here recently and none have been Staffies :( Seems they're not 'cool' anymore :rolleyes: :rant:

I think that all that was said was out of frustration and because people care about staffies and for no other reason, I am sure that no one wanted to have a go at all once it became clear what had happened.

kblade
29-07-2008, 01:44 AM
I think that all that was said was out of frustration and because people care about staffies and for no other reason, I am sure that no one wanted to have a go at all once it became clear what had happened.

Yes I know and admittedly I thought the same when I read it was Staffies. I also knew how the rest of the thread would go immediately :hihi:

It's just the continued digs once all was explained.....

Lotti
29-07-2008, 01:55 AM
kblade - I'll be completely honest here... the reason I was so saddened by the title followed by the OPs original post, was because I am aware that she does know about the rescue situation, and it turns out she is directly involved with it having taken in a dog that is already pregnant and looking after her (massive kudos there)...

But the original post still came across as 'aww puppies'. SheffieldForum pops up at the top of google on many searches and this thread will inevitably be read by people who are less clued up than some of the people on here.
Had the original post said 'I've got puppies due from this poor bitch who wasn't cared for, her owner allowed her to get pregnant and then couldn't care for her etc etc' it would've been hard hitting to anyone who found the thread and is not aware of the rescue situation or considered breeding themselves.

I felt that the way the original post came across was way too 'unconcerned' (if that's a word?) for responsible breeding or rescues and whilst the OP doesn't have to justify to any of us what she does (we're only equal to her, but it's easy for people to become concerned) I think all of us should be responsible for things that others read into breeding etc. and a post saying 'aww she's due babies bless her' isn't exactly saying - don't breed unnecessarily is it?

I also do believe the OP knew exactly how people would react to her post...

kblade
29-07-2008, 02:02 AM
kblade - I'll be completely honest here... the reason I was so saddened by the title followed by the OPs original post, was because I am aware that she does know about the rescue situation, and it turns out she is directly involved with it having taken in a dog that is already pregnant and looking after her (massive kudos there)...

But the original post still came across as 'aww puppies'. SheffieldForum pops up at the top of google on many searches and this thread will inevitably be read by people who are less clued up than some of the people on here.
Had the original post said 'I've got puppies due from this poor bitch who wasn't cared for, her owner allowed her to get pregnant and then couldn't care for her etc etc' it would've been hard hitting to anyone who found the thread and is not aware of the rescue situation or considered breeding themselves.

I felt that the way the original post came across was way too 'unconcerned' (if that's a word?) for responsible breeding or rescues and whilst the OP doesn't have to justify to any of us what she does (we're only equal to her, but it's easy for people to become concerned) I think all of us should be responsible for things that others read into breeding etc. and a post saying 'aww she's due babies bless her' isn't exactly saying - don't breed unnecessarily is it?

I also do believe the OP knew exactly how people would react to her post...


I was more concerned by the digs once the situation was explained really. I did roll my eyes myself when I read the title/first post to be honest but as I read into the situation I changed my view. It's the fact the accusations continued beyond that I find a little unfair. :)

Strix
29-07-2008, 02:10 AM
why should i know they were my sis pups and has it ever occured to you it might not be none of your business:huh:It's my business if I'm taking photo's of dogs in the pound who are at risk of being put to sleep for being dumped - as it's taking up my time and a lot of other peoples. Can your sister guarantee none of the photo's I've taken are of her pups?

You advertised the pups for sale, so it's fair to assume you have some connection to them in some way

Strix
29-07-2008, 02:56 AM
btw - any idea what the pups are going to be at all?

if they're going to be staffy with something big or nasty mixed in.... *shudders*

pinklady
29-07-2008, 12:53 PM
edited because i dont want to get involved with an argument, and lets face it ... my 2 penith will make sod all difference

amyrach
29-07-2008, 06:39 PM
It's my business if I'm taking photo's of dogs in the pound who are at risk of being put to sleep for being dumped - as it's taking up my time and a lot of other peoples. Can your sister guarantee none of the photo's I've taken are of her pups?

You advertised the pups for sale, so it's fair to assume you have some connection to them in some way

there are no guarantees in life and no they will not end up in the pound she has told the new owners if they dont want her then she will take the pup back

amyrach
29-07-2008, 06:40 PM
btw - any idea what the pups are going to be at all?

if they're going to be staffy with something big or nasty mixed in.... *shudders*

with another staffie and before you chirp in again i will personally vet the homes the pups go to

geerarffe
29-07-2008, 07:15 PM
:roll: oh good lord! :roll:

helenasq
29-07-2008, 07:25 PM
Don't take this as having a go, but will you be getting her nuetered once she has had the pups? I love staffys, they have such a wonderful personality when they are brought up right, but it just upsets me with the crisis they are in at the moment, as the bad publicity is making them even less likely to get adopted. I know of two that are due to be/have been put to sleep in the pound this week, lovely dogs aswell.

amyrach
29-07-2008, 07:29 PM
she will be spayed before christmas

Strix
29-07-2008, 07:36 PM
there are no guarantees in life and no they will not end up in the pound she has told the new owners if they dont want her then she will take the pup back
with another staffie and before you chirp in again i will personally vet the homes the pups go to
Thanks for clarifying that :thumbsup:

All too often we have threads that just read like people just don't give a stuff about breeding or buying pups, but it does make a difference when people get to see that responsible people aren't just letting pups go anywhere and wind up homeless after they get past the cute stage!

the peggsta
29-07-2008, 07:57 PM
It's my business if I'm taking photo's of dogs in the pound who are at risk of being put to sleep for being dumped - as it's taking up my time and a lot of other peoples. Can your sister guarantee none of the photo's I've taken are of her pups?

You advertised the pups for sale, so it's fair to assume you have some connection to them in some way

You obviously cant cope with stress and cruety you see on a daily basis{i wouldnt be able to either}theys alot of things isee at work that i dont agree with but i dont push it down other people throat at every opportunity.i think its time for a career change.you will never make people do what you want them to no matter how much you try.

geerarffe
29-07-2008, 07:58 PM
So she should just give up caring?

Strix
29-07-2008, 08:00 PM
You obviously cant cope with stress and cruety you see on a daily basis{i wouldnt be able to either}theys alot of things isee at work that i dont agree with but i dont push it down other people throat at every opportunity.i think its time for a career change.you will never make people do what you want them to no matter how much you try.
hmmmm, I love ironic posts :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

the peggsta
29-07-2008, 08:17 PM
I dont think anybody should stop caring,we all love our pets including me.I seem to be constantly arguing with strix on these posts which is silly because i agree with almost everything she says and admire the work she does.but she does come a cross as very aggressive,I think rather than slag people educate them.I delibertly started an argument with her on another thread so we could have a discusion and educate people at the same time.I bet shes lovely really

geerarffe
29-07-2008, 08:45 PM
She comes across as aggressive because of the amount of idiots that come on here with moronic notion that because they have a dog they should breed it! It's frustrating and like bangging your head against a brick wall but sometimes just sometimes the message gets through. Yes explaining would be better but when you've said the same thing 1,000 times before you do tend to get aggressive and annoyed with people who just don't care!

Strix
29-07-2008, 09:37 PM
Strix talks to people as she finds them - it usually helps to get your point across if you talk at more or less their level

of course if I really addressed this particular forum member at her own level I'd see just as many of my posts removed as she usually has ;)

If you look hard enough you'll find that Strix has been involved in a number of threads with very reasonable people asking questions about topics such as breeding, but has given very informative answers which have made the OP look at the situation from a new angle :thumbsup:

the peggsta
29-07-2008, 09:51 PM
Sorry i must have missed these.What do you mean "if i addressed this particular forum member at her own level",you cant seem to stop yourself slagging people off,from what ive read on here the OP hasnt done anything wrong.

the peggsta
29-07-2008, 10:02 PM
Just checked,all the OP has done is save a dog from possible starvation,whats wrong with that?it shows he or she cares and thats "the level"we should like isnt it?or would it have been better to just let it starve and die so people wont slag them off.well done to the OP thanks for saving a dog from the kennels,from all us dog lovers

Strix
29-07-2008, 10:05 PM
you can't read deleted posts :rolleyes:

geerarffe
29-07-2008, 10:07 PM
The OP can be a pain in the backside is what strix meant! She is the proverbial brick wall that everyone bangs their head against on a regular basis. Yes she's done a great thing by taking this dog in and well done to her for doing that. Everyone has said that. If she had put all the info in the original OP there would have been no jumping to conclusions or false accusations. But again as has already been said she probably put as little as possible in the OP to get a reaction from the people in this section.

Moonbird
29-07-2008, 10:19 PM
The OP can be a pain in the backside is what strix meant! She is the proverbial brick wall that everyone bangs their head against on a regular basis. Yes she's done a great thing by taking this dog in and well done to her for doing that. Everyone has said that. If she had put all the info in the original OP there would have been no jumping to conclusions or false accusations. But again as has already been said she probably put as little as possible in the OP to get a reaction from the people in this section.

And if that was the case it is working...it would be better all round if it stopped working (not aiming that at anyone in particular...I'm just saying) .

amyrach
29-07-2008, 10:19 PM
The OP can be a pain in the backside is what strix meant! She is the proverbial brick wall that everyone bangs their head against on a regular basis. Yes she's done a great thing by taking this dog in and well done to her for doing that. Everyone has said that. If she had put all the info in the original OP there would have been no jumping to conclusions or false accusations. But again as has already been said she probably put as little as possible in the OP to get a reaction from the people in this section.

WHAT A LOAD OF BULL WHO ARE YOU TO PASS CRITICISM ON ME I AM THRILLED TO BITS SHE IS HAVING PUPS
IF I WOULD HAVE SAID I HAD GOT THE DOG BY THE MEANS I DID THERE WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN THE PARASITES AND KNOW IT ALLS
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME THEN PM ME OR EVEN BETTER SAY IT TO MY FACE:rant:

amyrach
29-07-2008, 10:20 PM
Just checked,all the OP has done is save a dog from possible starvation,whats wrong with that?it shows he or she cares and thats "the level"we should like isnt it?or would it have been better to just let it starve and die so people wont slag them off.well done to the OP thanks for saving a dog from the kennels,from all us dog lovers

Thankyou peggsta a true doggy lover:love::love::love:

Strix
29-07-2008, 10:21 PM
posting all in capitals is against the forum rules amyrach :rolleyes:

amyrach
29-07-2008, 10:21 PM
And if that was the case it is working...it would be better all round if it stopped working (not aiming that at anyone in particular...I'm just saying) .

AND YOU KNOW ME BETTER THAN THAT BUT THEN AGAIN OBVIOUSLY NOT:huh:

amyrach
29-07-2008, 10:22 PM
posting all in capitals is against the forum rules amyrach :rolleyes:

Then ban me aw sorry ur not group leader any more

Strix
29-07-2008, 10:22 PM
perhaps you could stop 'shouting' at those who are supporting you amyrach?

Strix
29-07-2008, 10:23 PM
Then ban me aw sorry ur not group leader any moreyup :thumbsup: I've got more important things to do these days ;)

amyrach
29-07-2008, 10:24 PM
perhaps you could stop 'shouting' at those who are supporting you amyrach?

supporting?

where in this thread have u given your full support?

the peggsta
29-07-2008, 10:25 PM
Ok sorry if i missed something,like strix said i cant read deleted post.When you say its like banging your head against a brick wall,do you mean when you say jump she doesnt ask how high.Look i know they is a big problem with dogs in the kennels,but youve gotta blame the people who buy them,more than the people who breed them,and before you start, buying of a reputable breeder doesnt stop a dog from being neglected or dumped.

Geoff
29-07-2008, 10:38 PM
Thread closed

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