Has anyone heard of or been to the store? i seen the advert in The Star. The store is in Bramley, Leeds. They sell pedigree puppies, microchipped with 6 months guarantee.

Ive been on their website, and still dont know what to make of them... might take a trip to Leeds and check them out.

Just like to know if anyone had any experiences with the store.

The website http://www.dogs4us.com

To be honest I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole, the puppies are undoubtedly puppy farm bred.

To sell animals like that just like selling any other commodity disgusts me, if you want to buy a puppy please make sure that you do your research on the breed and make sure that you visit the puppy in its breeders home and see both the mother and father, please don't buy from a place like that! :mad:

No I definately wont be. I have done my research, just waiting for the right time and finding the right breeder. Been looking for awhile now but im sure when the time is right, it will happen :)

Is it like the dog 'superstore' in Manchester? If so it is as bad as suspected. They register all their dogs with DLRC and pass them off as 'pedigree with papers' which is very misleading. The store has been a real problem with samoyed up North and they seem to be coming from Irish puppy farms en masse with wrong eye colour, odd coats and even lack of black outlining.

Even the name is sufficient to induce a shudder

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With shops like that, which obviously put welfare for their puppies SO high, is it any wonder why so many dogs end up in rescue?

It took years to get puppies removed from local pet shops so impulse buying dropped off, but the radio ads for this flipping place had me gobsmacked!

what, pray tell, is going to happen when any of these wind up in rescue?

are they permanently microchipped to the superstore so we can have some statistics on whether this practice is contributing to irresponsible pet ownership?

I'm going to shut up before I REALLY get going :mad:

Responsible breeders don't supply these places, so they can only be puppy farmed non-health checked fashion accessories

With shops like that, which obviously put welfare for their puppies SO high, is it any wonder why so many dogs end up in rescue?

And Pets at Home and other pet stores are STILL treating animals like commodities and selling them off the shelf with little knoweldge or incorrect knowledge being disseminated. Granted they don't sell puppies, but no animal's life should not start on a shop floor deprived of attention for the most part.

It's crushing to know that puppy farms are still being used, my only hope is they are not as wide spread as rodent farms. Perhaps one day both will die out when people realise the damage they do.

This place used to be known as Mayfield Kennels, and didn't have the greatest of reputations then, from what I can make out by researching online.

This is a horrid practice and should be stopped as its just adding to the problem , If people buy from here they are adding to problem and encouraging puppy farming which i for one am totally against.

omg i dont know wether to be mortified, horrified or physically sick!! I had no idea places like this existed, one thing to be a dodgy back street puppy farm but to bring it out like this, jesus!!! It just doesn't bare thinking about it, all those poor bloody puppies, and the bitches, whats the name of that lovely rescue in wales that takes in and rehomes all the puppy farm bitches it can, rainbow something isn't it? Some one should take these prospective purchasers down there for a visit first and see what happens to the poor bloody dogs after they 'no longer have any use' GRRRR

edit: found it - many tears animal rescue - god some of the stories there have had me in tears

o yes the link for a popular discussion on mayfield kennels

if this i allowed of course, sorry if it isn't

http://www.dogclub.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2244.0

http://www.petfriendlyworld.com/chatforum/showthread.php?t=6329

http://forums.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-forums.showdiscussion/thread_id-39828/startrow-1/maxrows-20/16d8fa27.html

Sadly - the general public who really don't realise how many dogs get dumped in rescue - will look on this place as an easy place to buy the 'perfect' puppy.

Many people that I talk to really don't understand that puppy farms exist and not just in the 101 dalmation films. These types of shops where life is being bought and sold in such a way - and pets can be bought at supermarkets as tomorrow's 'fad' dog is wrong. Teaching our youngsters that anything can be bought or swopped.

so the answer is - educate everyone you know that puppies should only be bought when you can see the mum with them, and that they are in a house hold situation and the mum is comfortable, well fed and cared for, and the babies have been brought up cleanly and as well socialised as possible at that age.

I even wrote to The Sheffield Star asking them to not advertise their horrible place -but obviously - didn't get a reply.

I saw one of their vans on the M62 earlier on and remembered this thread actually- my anger at the total lack of appropriacy of the way that they sell dogs is not abating.

this horrid place was advertised on Hallam FM in the last couple of days

anybody fancy ringing up and complaining? :rant:

I know several of the DJs are dog owners themselves

Having looked at their website, http://www.dogs4us.com/puppysales.asp
It doesnt say anything about home checks or interviews.

So if you want a puppy for Christmas and not for January, go here. You can always take it back when it's a bit older and has lost the cute factor.

So what happens when the puppy hits 6 months and isn't quite so cute, hasnt received any training as it's just a novelty and becomes destructive. What do the company do with them?

you could ring and ask them :D

I have heard about this place and to be honest thought that it's a glorified pet shop and I thought it was now illegal to sell dogs in this way?? How have they got through a loophole-by saying it's a kennels??
I don't know if it will be as severe problem as stated above but it will certainly encourage people to do what they did when we had dogs in our pet shops-impulse buy.

Having listened to the advert properly today, I'm a disgusted Hallam FM are running this ad for the following reasons:

The name of the store aligns itself with Toys'R'Us
The voice over is clearly designed to appeal to children and their pester power
The pups are advertised as 'pedigree', though the general public have no idea that this does NOT mean KC registered
The ad has only appeared for the Christmas market - see item 1
No RESPONSIBLE breeder lets a pup go to a new home in December without KNOWING it's to a quiet Christmas household, to enable the pup the best chance to settle in
We see enough pups dumped at the age of 6 months without generating 'impulse buying' via pester power to exacerbate the situation


I'm starting a thread on the parenting group about pester power advertising, and will be trawling the internet for an update on the situation with the legislation some people want brought in to stop advertising specifically aimed at children

I'm not saying anything, I don't wanna get on my soap box

I'll lend you mine then :P

I've rung the advertising standards authority

apparently they'd be happy to investigate the complaint on the grounds of the pester power problem

I'm complaining to Hallam FM first though, to give them a chance to address the problem
(although no doubt that'll just result in the thing being re-recorded within 24hrs and re-launched, unless the company name added to radio advertising immediately before Christmas is actionable, or the fact that they're advertising 'pedigree' puppies, which the general public usually understand to mean 'KC registered' which would fall into the category of 'misleading')

I'm happy to email in a complaint also if you want me to

ooo cool - ta peaches :)

I'm happy to email in a complaint also if you want me to

Me too, I'm off to work in a mo but first thing in the morning I'll be onto it!


I couldn't quite believe what I was reading when I trawled through this thread. I don't often listen to the radio, so this is the first I've heard of it. Revolting.

righty ho

some contact details:

http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/topnavigation/contact_us/ <---- please ring these people first! They are particularly interested in this problem

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/contact/

http://www.hallamfm.co.uk/contactus.asp

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/Utility/Contact - I rang the advice line and selected option 4 for 'other'


I'll add to this list as I go

ringing Dogs Trust and the RSPCA next :thumbsup:

It makes you sick to your stomach to think who could end up with these puppies, with rescues already stretched to capacity up and down the country. I fear many innocent oh arnt they cute dogs will suffer in a few months once they have grown out of the oh how cute stage.

I'm also worried about the excitement that goes on in a house at Christmas, and the potential for injury to either children or dogs in the general mele

there's some more info on the situation over on L**ds forum
http://www.leeds-forum.co.uk/dogs4us-pet-shop-t4353.html?t=4353

The RSPCA are looking into these ads and will let me know if they wish to make a statement or press release on the matter

Just emailed Hallam Fm from my end

I've tried to find a sound clip of the ad

anybody else heard it?

I have heard about this place and to be honest thought that it's a glorified pet shop and I thought it was now illegal to sell dogs in this way?? How have they got through a loophole-by saying it's a kennels??


I dont believe it is illegal. There are many pet shops and garden centres selling puppies. Harrods sell puppies too. People will always buy them as its easy.:rant: There is a recent thread on Dogpages about a Garden Centre down south selling allsorts of puppies mostly crosses with Shih-tzu's. Theres also mention of a local pet shop with a different sign outside the door with the latest batch of puppies for sale.

Apparantly its Border Collies this week.:o

I thought the law was that they had to be licenced to sell animals, so as long as they have that licence, they're fine

I still think all pups should be permanently chipped to breeder, so they have traceability - and we get to find out exactly what proportion of dogs cropping up in rescue have been homed irresponsibly in the first place

They also advertise in the Admag a large box advert.

well, there's a surprise :rolleyes:

Admag has a target market, which aligns perfectly with the sales practices of this place - ask no questions... after all, it's only a dog

Does anybody know what this 6 month guarantee consists of?

I may have to ring them and ask

I just think its wrong to have places like that , I wish there was better legistation to protect these animals.

the best anybody could ever hope for is protection for the people purchasing them :shakes:

I've emailed Hallam FM.

Has anyone had a reply from them yet?

I've sent them an email outlining the responses I've had from the Advertising Standards Authority, the Dogs Trust and the RSPCA :thumbsup:

Now... RotherFM - I've been informed that they too are running this ad

Have they responded to your email Strix?

I only sent it 20 mins ago!

Oh, right.

I help run an anti pp farming group, we have had 3 complaints against this shop in the last week, one pup had to be pts age 18 weeks .

Please f you hear of anyone buying a sick pup let me know , we have traced the pups back to Welsh licensed pup farms . Its a disgrace that this can go on and no one will take responsibility.

If you would like to see a video of licensed breeding kennels then please go to our site http://www.dogs-r-us.org/puppyfarms.shtml

Strix did you ever get a response? this thread needs to come back to life 'as it was' as they are re-advertsing again :(

I can't remember what format I received this information in, but basically Hallam asked them to alter the ad and as they said no, Hallam pulled it

I was objecting to the ad on the basis of it blatantly appealing to pester power. Unfortunately it's more important for kids not to be 'victims' of advertising than it is for animals not to be sold and disposed of as stuffed toys

i like how it says larger dogs need more exercise, is it just mw or is this crap the bigger the dog has been for me the lazier they are lol

I'd say it's a load of rubbish - field dogs such as spaniels, labradors, beagles etc need tons of exercise - more than any of the breeds twice their size

There is a demonstration outside the store in Leeds coming up soon if anyone would like to attend?

Would it do any good?

If it stops people going in and buying a puppy then yes. Dogs 4 us dont want bad publicity and they will be sure to get it with a demo outside.

what's the thrust of this demo?

If more publicity was given to sensible places to buy dogs from, less people would head off to places like this

Unfortunately people can be put off rescue by some of the pictures they have of rescue from eg appeals for fundraising to pay for medical treatment, or the psychological damage done by abuse

There are a heck of a lot of nice dogs in rescue, but how often is this put forward to the general public?

Why isn't information on how to avoid the scams wrt buying a pup more easily available?

Puppy farmed dogs - all of them ! Stay away

The "thrust" of the demo is to point out to the public where the pups come from and to let the store know they are unwelcome in Leeds or anywhere else for that matter.

There will be owners of sick pups at the demo to point out to the press what a bad deal they have had .

Why isn't there more information out there telling people how to avoid scams ?

There is also a petition http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/24732.html

There you go it tells you everything you need to know about how life starts for a puppy farmed dog
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/hopeuk/info.htm

The problem is you can educate people of what to look out for , but desperation overides sense many times.

If anyone is interested? I am certainly going to try and attend:


Sarah Clark sent a message to the members of Boycot Dogs4us. Subject: Peaceful protest

"Hi, Just to inform all group members that there will be a peaceful protest (some children will be present) outside this store (Bramley, Leeds) on Sunday February 22nd at 11 0 clock. All are welcome. If you wish to attend please do not park your car/bike/skateboard in the store car-park as this will be classed as trespassing and it might be clamped.Hope you can make it. xxxxxx"

If anyone is interested? I am certainly going to try and attend:


Sarah Clark sent a message to the members of Boycot Dogs4us. Subject: Peaceful protest

"Hi, Just to inform all group members that there will be a peaceful protest (some children will be present) outside this store (Bramley, Leeds) on Sunday February 22nd at 11 0 clock. All are welcome. If you wish to attend please do not park your car/bike/skateboard in the store car-park as this will be classed as trespassing and it might be clamped.Hope you can make it. xxxxxx"

Just a reminder, my Mum run's dogs-r-us.org we will be attending this protest and hope as many of you could attend, we need to stand together and educate the public.

Regards Kevin

I help run an anti pp farming group, we have had 3 complaints against this shop in the last week, one pup had to be pts age 18 weeks .

Please f you hear of anyone buying a sick pup let me know , we have traced the pups back to Welsh licensed pup farms . Its a disgrace that this can go on and no one will take responsibility.

If you would like to see a video of licensed breeding kennels then please go to our site http://www.dogs-r-us.org/puppyfarms.shtml


that video has left me shocked! truely shocked. how is this legal? i remember a large pet shop that was like this in leeds years ago, i was only a child then and it made me sad i can't believe this is allowed to go on, i looked on the dogs 4 us website and i think the only way this company could be worse is if they had an 'add to basket' button to purchase the pups!!! disgusting. i am working on the day of the protest but if there is anything else i can help with please let me know.

The "6 Month Guarantee" that they offer...making it sound like buyng a new stereo or something like that...

What happens to the D4U pups returned under this "guarantee" then? Officialy? I have my suspicions as to what may or may not happen unofficially.....

But, ever suspicious of everything (and not trying to devalue this protest at all)....

Is this a protest concerned with animal welfare and ONLY animal welfare? I have unfortunately heard of these things being "usurped" by breeders (even respectable ones) with their own agenda against a particular large pet store....

Hi Squiggs , I can assure you we are concerned with animal welfare ONLY , not to forget people welfare too as the hurt and heartbreak of losing a puppy is awful to families.

There was a protest in Oct and at that one people were asked to sign a petition in favour of the KC being given more powers , it didn't happen and was scrapped by the lady who started it. We were no way involved in that.

A few people have found out the six month guarantee doesn't cover you for much as the shop owners will do their best to weedle out of it. It is meant to cover for genetic defects and any cost incurred, it doesn't .

I just watched the 3 video's, it's really sad to see the conditions that the dog's live in with not even the basics such as a soft bed and drinking water.

It's sad about the pups, but what really breaks my heart is the breeding bitches, you could see that they were afraid of the person filming but yet all of them went to their puppies prepared to defend them if they had too :(

Most if not all of the bitches will never leave there alive, what a sad, sad, hopeless and I dare say short life :cry:

Hi Moonbird, yes it the brood bitches and stud dogs that need our help most.

Can you believe Carmarthenshire council see nothing wrong with those conditions !

Those dogs spinning in distress will still be spinning the RSPCA have not visited the premises despite statements being taken . It just seems like no one cares , the politicians pass the buck and so it goes on.....and on .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx8MKV5wZTA&feature=channel_page

See you Sunday Pupsy.

See you there matey and thanks :thumbsup:

I thought the law was that they had to be licenced to sell animals, so as long as they have that licence, they're fine

I still think all pups should be permanently chipped to breeder, so they have traceability - and we get to find out exactly what proportion of dogs cropping up in rescue have been homed irresponsibly in the first place

not sure if someone has told you since you asked, but you can sell a certain amount without a license, and also 'from pets'...so they can wangle out of it..

Something needs doing immediately about puppy farms. But what can we do?

I don't see how we can get the message out there.

I met a cavvie owner today on walkies who told me they bought their first cav from a puppy farmer, and - depressingly enough - she was the only one who lived, and, worse, it costs them hundreds in vets bills just to keep the pup alive.

She had a number of parasites and diseases.

It make me furious, what can we do to stop this hideous and unscrupulous activity?

Well you could have joined in the demonstration outside the Leeds store tomorrow morning Karis. It may seem like a drop in the ocean but if it has the desired effect of highlighting to a few members of public, just where the puppies come from and what defects they may have inherited, it will be worthwhile. Just spread the word about these types of puppy supermarkets. If there is no demand, there will ultimately be no supply. In theory anyway!

I met a cavvie owner today on walkies who told me they bought their first cav from a puppy farmer, and - depressingly enough - she was the only one who lived, and, worse, it costs them hundreds in vets bills just to keep the pup alive.

She had a number of parasites and diseases.

It make me furious, what can we do to stop this hideous and unscrupulous activity?

I nearly didn't bring this up, but felt compelled to after all. Did it make you change your views on breeding from your dog? It's nearly the same thing after all, if he did turn out to have syringomyelia, which I sincerely hope he doesn't.

It's sometimes chance meetings like that which make us ponder on certain things. I usually go home with food for thought when I meet other old dog owners.

Myself, Fishpole and a friend attended the protest today outside the store at Leeds we did manage to turn away a few cars. :thumbsup: The police were present but it was very peaceful and no-one got in any bother (apart from the customers leaving the store who were reminded they hadn't got there seatbelts on).:hihi:

Despite giving out leaflets to customers who had absolutely no idea where the pups came from and hadn't really thought about it, there were still some that ignored our advice and bought puppies which was so disheartening to say the least.:( There were a couple of families at the protest who had bought pups from the store one of which died at 26weeks a Westie, the owners are taking dogs4us to court. The other family had a Shih-tzu pup who had a severe respritory disease which the vet confirmed was congenital. Unfortunately dogs4us were not interested in that, even though the vet had written to them to confirm.

We had all decided during our car journey that we would not be going in as we would be upset at seeing the dogs. Curiosity got the better of us and once the police had left and the protest ended we went in to have a look.

I was not prepared at all, my heart sank as we saw all the tiny faces of the pups, some solitary, some with litter mates but a long corridor full of puppies. The breeds we saw are as follows:

Yorkshire Terrier (too big to be standards, so think they are crosses)
Yorkshire Terrier miniature (litter of four)
Bichon Frise (solitary, but two pens one in each)
Shih-tzu (two pups together)
Lhasa Apso (two pups together)
Labrador (litter of four)
Dalmatian (solitary)
Basset (solitary)
Japanese Akita (two pups together)
Staffys (solitary, but three pens, one in each)
English Bull Terrier (solitary but two pens, one in each)
Alaskan Malamute (solitary, two pens one in each)
Chow Chow (solitary)
Cavalier King Charles (solitary, two of one in each pen)
Pembroke Corgi (solitary)
Cocker Spaniel (solitary)
Border Terrier (solitary)

The write ups were about as informitive on breeds as a book about cars a 8 year old could have written better, for example for the Labrador it said:

Labradors retrieve game, good with children and are used as guide dogs for the blind, no mention of the exercise or how big it will get and that it will chew your house to bits if you leave it all day.:loopy:

The sad thing was a little white Staff that was in the end pen, his front legs were obviously deformed (his front hocks were nearly on the floor) and his belly was enormous, either he had a sever worm burden or he had bloat either way he was ill, couldnt stand very well and lethargic. We notified a member of staff who didnt seem that overly concerned, but did go and have a look, told us that he had probably had an allergic reaction to his food and whisked him off to isolation.

The staff are young, under 20years, not very knowledgable and spent all the time cuddling puppies, even though all the pens had lots of faeces that needed cleaning and water needing topping up. All the dogs had cheap plastic toys which had large peices missing, no doubt the bits can be found in the puppies.:rant:

I am a sad lady tonight after seeing all those dogs. I really wanted to cry in there through pity and frustration.

It sounds awful Gemima and like something i thought would no longer be happening how wrong i am.
Well done you guys for going and making a stand about something so hideous and wrong. I wish people would listen and research and not go for the easy option when they feel like it i.e. wanting an afternoon out with the kids, i know lets go and just buy a puppy :rant:

It is wrong so wrong puppies should not be kept like this or bred like this. Some of these people must just be clueless and some just not bothered which angers me even more.

If you go again to protest Gemima i would like to join you if poss.
Thank you for telling us about it.

I am hoping this picture works.......


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3301647882_3c99458308_m.jpg

This is the poor Staff that was ill in the end pen.

If I hold back tears, it turns into the worst headache ever and I had a contest going on in my mind, which is going to explode first - my head or that Staffy's tummy! It wasn't just slightly potbellied, it was grotesquely huge! The member of staff said that the puppy had been fine that morning. How it's abdomen could range from fine to enormously distended by 2.30pm is beyond logic.

The "beds" looked like blue council recycling boxes turned on their sides with nothing in them ie no bedding, in not one single pen.

There were photos on the walls of celebrities who have purchased their pets from Dogs4Us. Canny marketing! There were far more signs prohibiting the use of cameras/video equipment.

I hope I never hear another child saying "Daddy, I want that one"!

I have emailed Leeds council env health about the pup and will ring the RSPCA in the morning. I did think that I should phone the store tommorow to ask about the pup, but I suspect they will lie anyway.:rolleyes:

To be fair the Staffys pen looks the cleanest out of them all, but you can clearly see that he has no comfy bed to sleep in. All the longhaired breeds were covered in shavings and they all had some in their eyes.

To be fair the Staffys pen looks the cleanest out of them all

Only that one little poo might have something to do with his condition, the other pens had quite enough evidence that the occupant/s bowels were functioning.

BTW Gemima, can't you sleep either?

The member of staff said that the puppy had been fine that morning. How it's abdomen could range from fine to enormously distended by 2.30pm is beyond logic.Gemima - when you ring the RSPCA I'd bring this up - that the staff are leaving the puppies entirely unchecked and to their own devices for hours on end :mad:

nope.......:mad: sorry that was to answer Fishpoles question.

Gemima - when you ring the RSPCA I'd bring this up - that the staff are leaving the puppies entirely unchecked and to their own devices for hours on end :mad:


Yes I am going to have a lengthy conflab with them. The licence regs state that the livestock have to be checked at regular intervals and a log needs to be kept, we didnt see any log, but I suppose thats in the staff room.:rolleyes:

... is it illegal to run a projected film on the side of somebody's building?...

I suppose that'd be covered by some kind of entertainment licence :suspect:

did the local press turn out for you?

That would work but would probably be illegal.;)

did the local press turn out for you?

Yorkshire Post are on strike and Leeds FM was a no show although they did say they were interested.:rolleyes:

did anybody take a photo of the demonstration that could be circulated with your own write up?

That would work but would probably be illegal.;)How does the council and its local pound feel about this place?

can an establishment such as the dogs trust park their trailer obviously nearby and do a 'puppy care' roadshow - including what to look for when buying a pup... for instance

Firstly can I please ask, don't blame the staff. At such a young age an animal lover might consider it a dream job, without knowing what goes on. The staff are as much in the dark as some of the customers.


did the local press turn out for you?
Unfortunately this protest co-incided with a strike and picket lines at the Yorkshire Post


did anybody take a photo of the demonstration that could be circulated with your own write up?

If I can make it to future events I would be happy to take photos as required


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Don't be disheartened by those who DO ignore you. It happens, the only response is to just keep at it. Take comfort in the people who DO listen. From years of standing outside animal circuses, and outside Flamingo Land, I don't remember those who called me names or ignored me, I remember the horse owner who had a real go at me before entering the circus, assuring me that I was a fanatical idiot and that horses needed to be part of something like a circus, then later came out in tears and asked when we would next be demonstrating and could she join us. I remember the people who turned around and left Flamingo Land.

I dont think anyone has blamed the staff, we all agreed that they are all in a dream job and this was discussed at the protest. The management know only too well that low paid staff, who dont ask any questions are ideal for the role. They need educating too, in fact one of the young protesters went in early on and asked what the protest was about and the staff said "Oh they have nothing better to do" I suspect management filled them in on that one during morning briefing.

Pupsy took lots of pics of us all at the demo.

I spoke with RSPCA this morning and the call centre was extremely helpfull. Ironically the girl called it a puppy farm by mistake.:o I told her mainly about the staffy and also all the other concerns with regards bedding, cleanliness and water etc. They are sending an inspector out. I am not holding much hope, but it cant be good for business when they turn up!

She asked me if I had purchased a pup..."hell no" was my response

Good! she said.:D

http://dogs-r-us.org/forumsmf/index.php?topic=2111.120 for details

Has anything come of the requests to Hallam etc to get that advert taken off? Real Radio is also running it, first thing I thought when I heard it was "puppy farms". I told my mum too, don't think she quite understood what I meant. I'd like to make these puppy farmers live in the conditions they keep their dogs in for a week, see how they like it!

Hallam pulled it before Christmas after a number of complaints, and I forwarded them the response to the ad from the dogs trust (of 'a dog is for life' fame) and the RSPCA, along with the enthusiasm of the advertising standards agency in receiving complaint

Hallam asked for the ad to be altered as the only thing we could 'get them on' was the blatant appeal to 'pester power', but they refused so the ad was pulled

I also have had many dogs in from the manchester store.. I also have had handed to me the " stock list" from these stores-it defies belief........all breeds from £495

Another protest planned for 29th March if anyone can attend , thanks

Another protest planned for 29th March if anyone can attend , thanks

Is this at the Leeds one? If so, are there any more details, and may I cross post this on my website? I know a LOT of people who are incredibly concerned by this! I went just before Christmas and cried the whole away around. Revolting. And a member of staff was abusive.

The press were on strike that day .

Yes it is Leeds, 29th March at 1pm, all welcome , make your voice heard .
Please feel free to cross post . We will try to have a protest every month for as long as it takes .

I've joined the freedom4dogs site, i'll cross post it on to FOA x

Popped into the Dogs4us in Manchester this weekend - just to see what was going on.

The puppies all seemed to be in rather clean enclosures - or rooms, really, behind double glazed doors but their beds were empty and their toys (if any) were minimal.

There was several puppies who were on their own and looked really unhappy, especially one boxer pup who was asleep in his empty sideways box shivering. He cost £750 and if I had it I would have rescued him, he looked so sad. Sadly he also looked a lot older than the other pups - what happens to them if they don't find a home whilst they're still little because he was the only one there over about 10 weeks old. I hope he gets rescued soon, because I have a good idea what might happen.

I don't understand why celebs are so happy to be put on the wall here. Do they just not know? Ricky Hatton & his son have bought two, the Rooneys have got two, Michelle Kegan, Ray Quinn and numerous other celebs all got one. Do they not realise what they're funding?

I feel ill looking at this website. From their company statement it seems they pass themselves off as nothing more than a puppy re-seller, a dealership selling on pups at a profit with a guarantee. What sort of breeder would sell pups on to such a business? How can they send little pups on to a puppy forecourt like that?

I'm appalled that any celebrity would be associated with such a place, surely they have enough money to go to the very best of the best of proper breeders. Maybe it's just more fashionable to go to the puppy hypermarket :roll:

What can be done, they seem to abide by all law but it doesn't make it right :(

I feel ill looking at this website. From their company statement it seems they pass themselves off as nothing more than a puppy re-seller, a dealership selling on pups at a profit with a guarantee. What sort of breeder would sell pups on to such a business? How can they send little pups on to a puppy forecourt like that?

I'm appalled that any celebrity would be associated with such a place, surely they have enough money to go to the very best of the best of proper breeders. Maybe it's just more fashionable to go to the puppy hypermarket :roll:

What can be done, they seem to abide by all law but it doesn't make it right :(


^^^What they said!

I believe that live animals should be treated as being different to 'things' that are sold through dealerships like cars and the like.

Whether it's legal or not, it definitely doesn't make it right.

It is disgusting that they can still sell pups in this way they come from puppy farms from all over taken to young from there mothers and transported miles away some dont even make the journey dont touch this place with a barge pole people need to relies this and not buy from there as so many unwanted dogs end up in rescue both pedigree and cross breed. PLEASE WARN PEOPLE NOT TO BUY FROM THERE, SPREAD THE WORD.

Gosh, I do wish people would get this angry at pet shops selling ANY animal, not just dogs. I can't get to your protest but I do wish you well in getting this disgusting practice stopped.

It's about time animals were taken off "shelves" and not sold as commodities. Dogs would be a good start certainly.

Popped into the Dogs4us in Manchester this weekend - just to see what was going on.

The puppies all seemed to be in rather clean enclosures - or rooms, really, behind double glazed doors but their beds were empty and their toys (if any) were minimal.

There was several puppies who were on their own and looked really unhappy, especially one boxer pup who was asleep in his empty sideways box shivering. He cost £750 and if I had it I would have rescued him, he looked so sad. Sadly he also looked a lot older than the other pups - what happens to them if they don't find a home whilst they're still little because he was the only one there over about 10 weeks old. I hope he gets rescued soon, because I have a good idea what might happen.

I don't understand why celebs are so happy to be put on the wall here. Do they just not know? Ricky Hatton & his son have bought two, the Rooneys have got two, Michelle Kegan, Ray Quinn and numerous other celebs all got one. Do they not realise what they're funding?

White I totally agree with your sentiments, you have to bare in mind that if you had the money, you wouldn't have been 'rescueing' him, you would have been giving the business your hard earned cash, and creating another empty shelf space for yet another life to fill.

If the only way this company thinks it can mentally pursuade it's customers to buy their 'goods' is by having pictures up of third rate 'celebrities' - then god help us.

The Palm readers on Blackpool front have been doing the same for generations.

Well I want to get on mine and say it's absolutely disgusting that these places exist .You can pay by credit card and they make it all so ------ easy!Unfortunately breeders have ways of getting round K.C. rules as well and before I get shot down not all breeders no.

White I totally agree with your sentiments, you have to bare in mind that if you had the money, you wouldn't have been 'rescueing' him, you would have been giving the business your hard earned cash, and creating another empty shelf space for yet another life to fill.

If the only way this company thinks it can mentally pursuade it's customers to buy their 'goods' is by having pictures up of third rate 'celebrities' - then god help us.

The Palm readers on Blackpool front have been doing the same for generations.

Yeah your right, you can't win can you.

I can't believe they don't even do home checks, there was a family buying two little spaniels and they didn't even ask them if they had a garden, let alone actually going to check it out.