Has anyone heard of or been to the store? i seen the advert in The Star. The store is in Bramley, Leeds. They sell pedigree puppies, microchipped with 6 months guarantee.

Ive been on their website, and still dont know what to make of them... might take a trip to Leeds and check them out.

Just like to know if anyone had any experiences with the store.

The website http://www.dogs4us.com

To be honest I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole, the puppies are undoubtedly puppy farm bred.

To sell animals like that just like selling any other commodity disgusts me, if you want to buy a puppy please make sure that you do your research on the breed and make sure that you visit the puppy in its breeders home and see both the mother and father, please don't buy from a place like that! :mad:

No I definately wont be. I have done my research, just waiting for the right time and finding the right breeder. Been looking for awhile now but im sure when the time is right, it will happen :)

Is it like the dog 'superstore' in Manchester? If so it is as bad as suspected. They register all their dogs with DLRC and pass them off as 'pedigree with papers' which is very misleading. The store has been a real problem with samoyed up North and they seem to be coming from Irish puppy farms en masse with wrong eye colour, odd coats and even lack of black outlining.

Even the name is sufficient to induce a shudder

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With shops like that, which obviously put welfare for their puppies SO high, is it any wonder why so many dogs end up in rescue?

It took years to get puppies removed from local pet shops so impulse buying dropped off, but the radio ads for this flipping place had me gobsmacked!

what, pray tell, is going to happen when any of these wind up in rescue?

are they permanently microchipped to the superstore so we can have some statistics on whether this practice is contributing to irresponsible pet ownership?

I'm going to shut up before I REALLY get going :mad:

Responsible breeders don't supply these places, so they can only be puppy farmed non-health checked fashion accessories

With shops like that, which obviously put welfare for their puppies SO high, is it any wonder why so many dogs end up in rescue?

And Pets at Home and other pet stores are STILL treating animals like commodities and selling them off the shelf with little knoweldge or incorrect knowledge being disseminated. Granted they don't sell puppies, but no animal's life should not start on a shop floor deprived of attention for the most part.

It's crushing to know that puppy farms are still being used, my only hope is they are not as wide spread as rodent farms. Perhaps one day both will die out when people realise the damage they do.

This place used to be known as Mayfield Kennels, and didn't have the greatest of reputations then, from what I can make out by researching online.

This is a horrid practice and should be stopped as its just adding to the problem , If people buy from here they are adding to problem and encouraging puppy farming which i for one am totally against.

omg i dont know wether to be mortified, horrified or physically sick!! I had no idea places like this existed, one thing to be a dodgy back street puppy farm but to bring it out like this, jesus!!! It just doesn't bare thinking about it, all those poor bloody puppies, and the bitches, whats the name of that lovely rescue in wales that takes in and rehomes all the puppy farm bitches it can, rainbow something isn't it? Some one should take these prospective purchasers down there for a visit first and see what happens to the poor bloody dogs after they 'no longer have any use' GRRRR

edit: found it - many tears animal rescue - god some of the stories there have had me in tears

o yes the link for a popular discussion on mayfield kennels

if this i allowed of course, sorry if it isn't

http://www.dogclub.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2244.0

http://www.petfriendlyworld.com/chatforum/showthread.php?t=6329

http://forums.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-forums.showdiscussion/thread_id-39828/startrow-1/maxrows-20/16d8fa27.html

Sadly - the general public who really don't realise how many dogs get dumped in rescue - will look on this place as an easy place to buy the 'perfect' puppy.

Many people that I talk to really don't understand that puppy farms exist and not just in the 101 dalmation films. These types of shops where life is being bought and sold in such a way - and pets can be bought at supermarkets as tomorrow's 'fad' dog is wrong. Teaching our youngsters that anything can be bought or swopped.

so the answer is - educate everyone you know that puppies should only be bought when you can see the mum with them, and that they are in a house hold situation and the mum is comfortable, well fed and cared for, and the babies have been brought up cleanly and as well socialised as possible at that age.

I even wrote to The Sheffield Star asking them to not advertise their horrible place -but obviously - didn't get a reply.

I saw one of their vans on the M62 earlier on and remembered this thread actually- my anger at the total lack of appropriacy of the way that they sell dogs is not abating.

this horrid place was advertised on Hallam FM in the last couple of days

anybody fancy ringing up and complaining? :rant:

I know several of the DJs are dog owners themselves

Having looked at their website, http://www.dogs4us.com/puppysales.asp
It doesnt say anything about home checks or interviews.

So if you want a puppy for Christmas and not for January, go here. You can always take it back when it's a bit older and has lost the cute factor.

So what happens when the puppy hits 6 months and isn't quite so cute, hasnt received any training as it's just a novelty and becomes destructive. What do the company do with them?

you could ring and ask them :D

I have heard about this place and to be honest thought that it's a glorified pet shop and I thought it was now illegal to sell dogs in this way?? How have they got through a loophole-by saying it's a kennels??
I don't know if it will be as severe problem as stated above but it will certainly encourage people to do what they did when we had dogs in our pet shops-impulse buy.

Having listened to the advert properly today, I'm a disgusted Hallam FM are running this ad for the following reasons:

The name of the store aligns itself with Toys'R'Us
The voice over is clearly designed to appeal to children and their pester power
The pups are advertised as 'pedigree', though the general public have no idea that this does NOT mean KC registered
The ad has only appeared for the Christmas market - see item 1
No RESPONSIBLE breeder lets a pup go to a new home in December without KNOWING it's to a quiet Christmas household, to enable the pup the best chance to settle in
We see enough pups dumped at the age of 6 months without generating 'impulse buying' via pester power to exacerbate the situation


I'm starting a thread on the parenting group about pester power advertising, and will be trawling the internet for an update on the situation with the legislation some people want brought in to stop advertising specifically aimed at children

I'm not saying anything, I don't wanna get on my soap box

I'll lend you mine then :P

I've rung the advertising standards authority

apparently they'd be happy to investigate the complaint on the grounds of the pester power problem

I'm complaining to Hallam FM first though, to give them a chance to address the problem
(although no doubt that'll just result in the thing being re-recorded within 24hrs and re-launched, unless the company name added to radio advertising immediately before Christmas is actionable, or the fact that they're advertising 'pedigree' puppies, which the general public usually understand to mean 'KC registered' which would fall into the category of 'misleading')

I'm happy to email in a complaint also if you want me to

ooo cool - ta peaches :)

I'm happy to email in a complaint also if you want me to

Me too, I'm off to work in a mo but first thing in the morning I'll be onto it!


I couldn't quite believe what I was reading when I trawled through this thread. I don't often listen to the radio, so this is the first I've heard of it. Revolting.

righty ho

some contact details:

http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/topnavigation/contact_us/ <---- please ring these people first! They are particularly interested in this problem

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/contact/

http://www.hallamfm.co.uk/contactus.asp

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/Utility/Contact - I rang the advice line and selected option 4 for 'other'


I'll add to this list as I go

ringing Dogs Trust and the RSPCA next :thumbsup:

It makes you sick to your stomach to think who could end up with these puppies, with rescues already stretched to capacity up and down the country. I fear many innocent oh arnt they cute dogs will suffer in a few months once they have grown out of the oh how cute stage.

I'm also worried about the excitement that goes on in a house at Christmas, and the potential for injury to either children or dogs in the general mele

there's some more info on the situation over on L**ds forum
http://www.leeds-forum.co.uk/dogs4us-pet-shop-t4353.html?t=4353

The RSPCA are looking into these ads and will let me know if they wish to make a statement or press release on the matter

Just emailed Hallam Fm from my end

I've tried to find a sound clip of the ad

anybody else heard it?

I have heard about this place and to be honest thought that it's a glorified pet shop and I thought it was now illegal to sell dogs in this way?? How have they got through a loophole-by saying it's a kennels??


I dont believe it is illegal. There are many pet shops and garden centres selling puppies. Harrods sell puppies too. People will always buy them as its easy.:rant: There is a recent thread on Dogpages about a Garden Centre down south selling allsorts of puppies mostly crosses with Shih-tzu's. Theres also mention of a local pet shop with a different sign outside the door with the latest batch of puppies for sale.

Apparantly its Border Collies this week.:o

I thought the law was that they had to be licenced to sell animals, so as long as they have that licence, they're fine

I still think all pups should be permanently chipped to breeder, so they have traceability - and we get to find out exactly what proportion of dogs cropping up in rescue have been homed irresponsibly in the first place

They also advertise in the Admag a large box advert.

well, there's a surprise :rolleyes:

Admag has a target market, which aligns perfectly with the sales practices of this place - ask no questions... after all, it's only a dog

Does anybody know what this 6 month guarantee consists of?

I may have to ring them and ask

I just think its wrong to have places like that , I wish there was better legistation to protect these animals.

the best anybody could ever hope for is protection for the people purchasing them :shakes:

I've emailed Hallam FM.

Has anyone had a reply from them yet?

I've sent them an email outlining the responses I've had from the Advertising Standards Authority, the Dogs Trust and the RSPCA :thumbsup:

Now... RotherFM - I've been informed that they too are running this ad

Have they responded to your email Strix?

I only sent it 20 mins ago!

Oh, right.