Just been listening to Amy and her voice is both uplifting and soothing

And I was just thinking, she must be one of the best singers of our time

What do you think?

Just been listening to Amy and her voice is both uplifting and soothing

And I was just thinking, she must be one of the best singers of our time

What do you think?
She is so talented but she has the self distruct button pressed and i cannot understand why

she seems to me to have been a daddy's girl who simply don't mean the word NO/STOP, Spoilt kid with cash and drugs.

But i would agree with the singer side, she does sound wonderful :thumbsup:

I met her last year and she`s a lovely person or should i say she was. She let me take her pic and we had a chat. She seamed really nice. I love her music too. She`s so different from anything else.

Detest everything about her with a passion!!!


Her music makes me turn the radio over!!!!

She is a tortured soul.....bless her.

I love her music...which isn't bad considering I'm a heavy metal sort of girl :lol:

I just get the gut feeling she isn't going to be around for too much longer...whether by accident or design.

I would love to wish her well....she has an amazing voice and talent.....but Amy Winehouse is seemingly not all about the voice. :)

She is a skanky piece of trash that belongs in the bin. And not a very nice bin. A really skanky bin.

I love this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lqSKVv6YO8g)...but she is a mess....those aren't tattoos - they are graffitti....done for destruction rather than adornment....everything about her style oozes self abuse. And that is so tragic for one with such an amazing voice.

To refer to the OP though...uplifting and soothing are in my opinion strange ways to describe her music..her lyrics are nothing but cries of despair. And I too cry at some of her stuff.

And when I was in hospital recently having the scariest time of my life....Amy was with me - the only thing on my MP3....if only she know how she got me through. I wish I could return the compliment to her :)

She is a skanky piece of trash that belongs in the bin. And not a very nice bin. A really skanky bin.
But do you agree that she has a wonderful voice and delivery?

She's a true original, but unfortunately, as espadrille comments, she's on self destruct and no-one quite knows why.

The skanky piece of trash seems to be the one she's got all over her like a nasty little rash, her husband. Compare Amy before and after Blake and you can see the change he made in her, very sad.

She is a skanky piece of trash that belongs in the bin. And not a very nice bin. A really skanky bin.

You're all heart....and so compassionate :|

Just been listening to Amy and her voice is both uplifting and soothing

And I was just thinking, she must be one of the best singers of our time

What do you think?

Shes good for todays music standards. I kinda like that jazz, laid over the piano sound.

She has a good voice but who cares? She is a joke. There's no point in people blaming that other waste of skin Blake for her downfall. She is an adult who is responsible for her own actions. They both want drowning.

I think the OP is asking if you like her music, not her lifestyle.

Sure she has a 'good' voice but what exactly has she done in terms of career?

One 'popular' retro type album which suits her voice and filled a gap in the market (which has had it's day and won't sell as well as next time).

And the only other thing she is known for is a cover version.

Completely over hyped, and is definately on it's way to becoming a public car crash.

Sure she has a 'good' voice but what exactly has she done in terms of career?

One 'popular' retro type album which suits her voice and filled a gap in the market (which has had it's day and won't sell as well as next time).

And the only other thing she is known for is a cover version.

Completely over hyped, and is definately on it's way to becoming a public car crash.

Of course she'll never have a classic on her hands but shes not bad if you want a relaxing dinner dance ;)

She fills the same musical hole in the market as Billie Holiday fifty years ago. No more no less but she certainly ain't an original talent.

It rather looks like she will soon be filling a similar hole in the ground.

She has a good voice but who cares? She is a joke. There's no point in people blaming that other waste of skin Blake for her downfall. She is an adult who is responsible for her own actions. They both want drowning.

I was reffering to her singing abilities mrknish, her life is her problem

Shes great. Shes a true rock star. Shes also not doing anything any other rock star hasn't done. The only difference is she's doing it in public. Shes walking the same path as Billie, Janis, Nina et al. Unfortunately the only thing everyone who walks this path has in common is they're all dead

But do you agree that she has a wonderful voice and delivery?



No.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vfdl7-E80Q

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIiTU5fyphE&feature=related

Not my cup of tea at all. It's dinner party music.

Ick.

I love this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lqSKVv6YO8g)...but she is a mess....those aren't tattoos - they are graffitti....done for destruction rather than adornment....everything about her style oozes self abuse. And that is so tragic for one with such an amazing voice.

To refer to the OP though...uplifting and soothing are in my opinion strange ways to describe her music..her lyrics are nothing but cries of despair. And I too cry at some of her stuff.

And when I was in hospital recently having the scariest time of my life....Amy was with me - the only thing on my MP3....if only she know how she got me through. I wish I could return the compliment to her :)

Uplifting and Soothing depending on which track Julado, you must have found something uplifting if it got you through your time in hospital, no?
oh and good luck with the recovery :thumbsup:

Best of our time? Not by a long way. Gimme Fiona Apple any day of the week.

not the best by a long shot. Her voice grates. I'll turn over the radio as soon as i hear her voice

Just been listening to Amy and her voice is both uplifting and soothing

And I was just thinking, she must be one of the best singers of our time

What do you think?

i really don't think much of amy whinehouse as a singer

especially when compared to someone like bjork

No the best female artists currently around completely top her

Nerina Pallot is hairs standing up on the back of your neck stuff. Seriously underrated and if all else fails she is really funny - I love her blog!
Catherine Feeny - such a lovely lady too!
Beth Rowley
Candie Payne
Regina Speckor
Norah Jones
Sharleen Spitteri's new album is brilliant but because she's lost the "cool" factor, will be overlooked. It's a must for any 60s soul singer fan.
I've probably missed a load of current ones out as i've only been up a little while and have groggy head. (Just like Amy!)

As Nekro said, you just gotta watch the Beat it with The Church to see how dreadful she can get.

I didn't go and watch her when she played with the Arctics last year even though she bothered to turn up - i got beer instead.

But do you agree that she has a wonderful voice and delivery?

She's a true original, but unfortunately, as espadrille comments, she's on self destruct and no-one quite knows why.

The skanky piece of trash seems to be the one she's got all over her like a nasty little rash, her husband. Compare Amy before and after Blake and you can see the change he made in her, very sad.

I don't really like her voice, i've seen her live on tv a few times and i can hardly ever make out any words, i like her band though, they're cool.

Don't know who i'd put forward instead, but there are plenty out there who can sing aswell/better than her and i don't think any of her songs are that special, i know you'll refute this but i'll bet you won't still be singing them 20 years from now.

I think she's great, and her "troubles" only make her greater IMO.
If she lived the life of a nun I wouldn't be so impressed.

especially when compared to someone like bjork

Sounds like a demented dolphin most of the time and tries too hard to be "altenative" IMO

i really don't think much of amy whinehouse as a singer

especially when compared to someone like bjork

LOL...................

Speaking as someone who thinks they're both pretty lame at least Bjork's voice and music is interesting, and original.

When she's sober and on form she's amazing. I'd heard about her before I actually heard her and when I finally got round to listening to a song or two I had my preconceptions destroyed. She really can sing. Unfortunately the problems she inflicts on herself get in the way of the singing, so when she's off-form and not sober... she's AWFUL.

But yeah, when she's good she's better than anyone else around right now.

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She is everything you don't like in a woman she grates on you as said by someone she is a but ugly woman that shouldn't be aloud to be such a bad example to the youth of today if inst bad enough already with gangs influenced by so called gangster rappers get rid of the ugly cow and somebody feed her she's like a stick insect :rolleyes:

She is everything you don't like in a woman she grates on you as said by someone she is a but ugly woman that shouldn't be aloud to be such a bad example to the youth of today if inst bad enough already with gangs influenced by so called gangster rappers get rid of the ugly cow and somebody feed her she's like a stick insect :rolleyes:

I think what you mean is that she's everything you don't like in a woman.

She's an exceptionally talented and gifted singer, but greatest female artist of all time is stretching it somewhat.

LOL...................

could have simply posted that in response to your original post

amy whinehouse, the greatest female artist of our time.... have you ever heard any music?

She has a good voice
Back to black is a fantastic tune

Apart from that she aint al that imo, Adeles hometown glory wipes the floor with anything she has done by a long way

Just been listening to Amy and her voice is both uplifting and soothing

And I was just thinking, she must be one of the best singers of our time

What do you think?
What do you mean by 'our time'?

Anyway at the moment I don't think she's even close, female solo artists like Kate Bush, Bjork, Susan Vega, PJ Harvey, Joanna Newsom, Kate Rusby, Beth Orton, Tori Amos, Siouxsie Sioux... are all still active and have bodies of work which far surpass what Amy Winehouse has managed so far. If she can get her act together she may go on to surpass some or maybe even all of them but I doubt it.

no....no she isnt

well there are mixed views there and not surprising a lot of posts about her lifestyle rather than her singing
Before I actually listened properly to her I was of the same opinion to most of you but after giving her the benefit of doubt I listened to her and soon had to change my mind

oh and shaker I am sorry, I didnt mean to take the p**s, but I did actually laugh out loud when I read your post

I love this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lqSKVv6YO8g)...but she is a mess....those aren't tattoos - they are graffitti....done for destruction rather than adornment....everything about her style oozes self abuse. And that is so tragic for one with such an amazing voice.

To refer to the OP though...uplifting and soothing are in my opinion strange ways to describe her music..her lyrics are nothing but cries of despair. And I too cry at some of her stuff.

And when I was in hospital recently having the scariest time of my life....Amy was with me - the only thing on my MP3....if only she know how she got me through. I wish I could return the compliment to her :)

Utterly spot-on post, Julado - it's all so very sad :(

I HATED her version of "Valerie" but then it is one of my favourite songs the way it was done originally by the Zutons. That said:

The woman is a true star - her voice and delivery are AMAZING, and she is mesmerizing when she performs. With her volatility, every performance is going to be different, you never quite know what you are going to get, and that makes her exciting and vital and REAL as a performer. You are getting the real thing - pure, unadulterated emotion - not some choreographed-to-death, music-by-numbers, pointlessly bland performance, that is all too common with 'artists' these days.

Amy is the real thing, heart on her sleeve and ****-ups there for all to see.

I'm very frightened for her though - she is so obviously on the path of self-destruction/total nihilism. It is like watching a car crash in slow motion. I hope she can be pulled back from the brink - the parallels with other artistes are all too obvious :(

StarSparkle

Oh dear Starsparkle - two consecutive days i have had to agree with your posts.

I do think Duffy is far better looking and Ms Spitteri can do no wrong in my opinion.

The most over rated female artist of all time, maybe.

The most over rated female artist of all time, maybe.

No, thats Leona Lewis for defo.

No the best female artists currently around completely top her

Nerina Pallot is hairs standing up on the back of your neck stuff. Seriously underrated and if all else fails she is really funny - I love her blog!
Catherine Feeny - such a lovely lady too!
Beth Rowley
Candie Payne
Regina Speckor
Norah Jones
Sharleen Spitteri's new album is brilliant but because she's lost the "cool" factor, will be overlooked. It's a must for any 60s soul singer fan.
I've probably missed a load of current ones out as i've only been up a little while and have groggy head. (Just like Amy!)

As Nekro said, you just gotta watch the Beat it with The Church to see how dreadful she can get.

I didn't go and watch her when she played with the Arctics last year even though she bothered to turn up - i got beer instead.


On that recommendation alone i've just bought the downloads thru Nokia for Melody
-It is superb.

No, thats Leona Lewis for defo.

Surely not, no-one cares about her, people start threads like "is Amy Winehouse the best female artist of our time?" where's the Leona thread?

I'd agree she's (Winehouse) one of the most overated artists of all time let alone ours. The whole it's so 'raw and emotional' thing annoys me, just 'cause someone can read music and they play with a degree of professionalism doesn't make them feel the music any less than someone who cocks up all the time 'cause they're not professional. Making mistakes doesn't make the music any more 'real' that's a load of bull.

She is everything you don't like in a woman she grates on you as said by someone she is a but ugly woman that shouldn't be aloud to be such a bad example to the youth of today if inst bad enough already with gangs influenced by so called gangster rappers get rid of the ugly cow and somebody feed her she's like a stick insect :rolleyes:So if she were more attractive you'd like her more? How deep of you

I'm very frightened for her though - she is so obviously on the path of self-destruction/total nihilism. It is like watching a car crash in slow motion. I hope she can be pulled back from the brink - the parallels with other artistes are all too obvious :(

StarSparkleThe brightest stars burn out the fastest. She's not doing anything thats not been done before and more musicians get through it than not. She'll be fine

I did actually laugh out loud when I read your post

why?





.:.

I think Gloria Hunniford is.

So if she were more attractive you'd like her more? How deep of you

no mate she could look like my Nicole kidman and still be crap she is UGLY FROM THE INSIDE OUT have you not seen how she treats people get a grip :loopy:

How many of the bleeding hearts on here give a monkeys about the local smack/crack heads ?????????????????????????????????????

she makes me sick to be honest but more so the people who ''feel sorry'' for her yet wouldnt give someone who's been brought up on a sink estate or had a generally sh!!ty life a second thought.

I have far more sympathy for them than someone like mughouse

Oh dear Starsparkle - two consecutive days i have had to agree with your posts.

I do think Duffy is far better looking and Ms Spitteri can do no wrong in my opinion.

I know, Willman! You're starting to make sense - what's happened to you? :P ;)

StarSparkle :)

How many of the bleeding hearts on here give a monkeys about the local smack/crack heads ?????????????????????????????????????

she makes me sick to be honest but more so the people who ''feel sorry'' for her yet wouldnt give someone who's been brought up on a sink estate or had a generally sh!!ty life a second thought.

I have far more sympathy for them than someone like mughouse

100% mate :thumbsup:

no mate she could look like my Nicole kidman and still be crap she is UGLY FROM THE INSIDE OUT have you not seen how she treats people get a grip :loopy:You never said that. you described her as butt ugly and an ugly cow. Therefore its reasonable of me to assume you're talking about her appearance. So maybe you should get a grip

How many of the bleeding hearts on here give a monkeys about the local smack/crack heads ?????????????????????????????????????

she makes me sick to be honest but more so the people who ''feel sorry'' for her yet wouldnt give someone who's been brought up on a sink estate or had a generally sh!!ty life a second thought.

I have far more sympathy for them than someone like mughouseI don't feel sorry for her. Shes probably having the time of her life. Shes behaving exactly as a rock star should

I don't feel sorry for her. Shes probably having the time of her life. Shes behaving exactly as a rock star should

Prob be what i would be doing tbh minus the smack (seen people jabbin up since the age of 11/12 so never had any intrest in the orrible sh**) and i would be smart enough to take regular long breaks, as if you dont ...... GAME OVER

Prob be what i would be doing tbh minus the smack (seen people jabbin up since the age of 11/12 so never had any intrest in the orrible sh**) and i would be smart enough to take regular long breaks, as if you dont ...... GAME OVERPrecisely. Now is she smart enough to realise that if you take smack for long enough you die or will she straighten out enough to release a killer record? Time will tell

She can't play
She can't sing
She can't write


What's left?

The amount of column inches she gets every day in most of the papers is just too much. You cant argue that she has talent but whats the point when shes off her head most of the time. I think its an insult to paying fans if she turns up and all her lyrics are slurred.

I don't think many people had ever heard of her in the US before this year, the drug thingie brought attention to her, she does have a nice voice, i think she sounds like Dusty Springfield but just in certain songs.

I suppose her concerts get a big turn out just to see if she's going to make it through to the end, train wreck and all that.... I would love to see her in person, she does have that unusual look about her.

She wont sound as good as these ladies or have hits as big as them either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXIWOg6rYHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDtSyWQsPsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1z5DZEse3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8VGQTtENSs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV-PTK0UZ4

Troubled? tortured? Misunderstood?..........Nah, she needs a haircut and a bath. Urrrggggh.

Is Amy Winehouse the best female artist of our time?Just been listening to Amy and her voice is both uplifting and soothing

And I was just thinking, she must be one of the best singers of our time

What do you think?Amy was essentially unheard of six months ago, perhpas hailing her as one of the best singers of our time is a little much? She's got a voice yes but let's see what she does during the next few years?She can't play
She can't sing
She can't write
What's left?She can't dress and she comb herself.

On that recommendation alone i've just bought the downloads thru Nokia for Melody
-It is superb.

Excellent choice!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iltPCESu_Oc
Watch 2:54 onwards even if she gets on your nerves. Bloomin heck that girl can belt them out!
And just because I love her
http://youtube.com/watch?v=70KJpsqoLMc
Even if it's not your type of music listen at 1:03 onwards for the hairs on the back of your neck stuff.

She's in the Wax Museum now, such a likeness,I wonder how they got her to sit for that ? well stand!

I like Amy Winehouse Music she really good at it, it really smothe and in key GO AMY !

It may be the similarity of the name but I always confuse Amy Winehouse with Mary Whitehouse.

It may be the similarity of the name but I always confuse Amy Winehouse with Mary Whitehouse.

I know which one i'd rather sleep with. Even if she is dead.

I know which one i'd rather sleep with. Even if she is dead.

they are both dead its just one is physically dead the other brain dead :hihi:

The girl can sing, that is a simple fact. Her personal life is a wet dream for the tortured bedsit ghosts who will undoubtedly compare themselves to her and want to follow her path of ultimate destruction by her own scrawny hand.
She'd be the female Pete Docherty, if he could actually sing, write a decent tune and a lyric which wouldnt embarrass a sixth former.

I hope Amy Winehouse survives, gets her act together and goes on to possibly become the greatest female artist of our time, I cant honestly see it, and thats a shame.

She wont sound as good as these ladies or have hits as big as them either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXIWOg6rYHY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDtSyWQsPsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1z5DZEse3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8VGQTtENSs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV-PTK0UZ4
This post is a joke right? Half those 'artists' don't even write their own material and (not that sales really count for much) I expect Winehouse has already sold more albums than Tyler or Faithfull put together.

Is Amy Winehouse the best female artist of our time?

:rolleyes: No. NO. NO!

Not even in the running!

Here's some real soul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO7D1am7fPQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIpbZvr4V8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQdmrFrM5lE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtwon67Uqg&feature=related

Amy Winehouse wants twins she can't even look after herself than look after twins.....?

the only reason she as got as for as she as because she is a chav icon spitting farting swearing falling all over being abusive like some little ****** up chavett on the park at night or outside the shops
that is her clientèle that and the hoards of junkies and drunks

the only reason she as got as for as she as because she is a chav icon spitting farting swearing falling all over being abusive like some little ****** up chavett on the park at night or outside the shops
that is her clientèle that and the hoards of junkies and drunks

I take it you don't care much for her :huh:

This post is a joke right? Half those 'artists' don't even write their own material and (not that sales really count for much) I expect Winehouse has already sold more albums than Tyler or Faithfull put together.

You are comapring winehouse with the likes of whitney?? All those artist have wrote or can play something.

LOL @ selling more albums. nowhere near even worth trying to compare.

Here's some real soul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO7D1am7fPQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NIpbZvr4V8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQdmrFrM5lE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtwon67Uqg&feature=related

Sounds like something done on a boss groove machine.

Sounds like something done on a boss groove machine.

If I could be bothered I'd pity you. :D

If I could be bothered I'd pity you. :D

:| :|

overrated yes, she sounds like a pub singer to me. like when vic reeves did pub singing on shooting stars

Well she's just been admitted in the ER at a London Hospital, God awful photo of her, I knew she wasn't good looking, but never that bad :o

shes definitely up there, its a travesty shes going the way she is,she actually frightens me these days when all the terrible pictures appear, if you look at her early videos she looked great,
"he can only hold her"-
a great song

You are comapring winehouse with the likes of whitney?? All those artist have wrote or can play something.
I am indeed comparing 'comapring (sic) winehouse with the likes of whitney' and concluding that Winehouse is considerably better, for one thing Winehouse actually writes her own songs making her much more of an 'artist' that Houston will ever be.

Whitney Houston may well have been a bigger star that Winehouse will be (we'll have to wait and see about that obviously) but Winehouse is on another level when it comes to creativity. Houston is little more than a manufactured karaoke pop star along the lines of Britney Speers of Christina Aguilera and they just aren't in the same league as someone like Winehouse who actually has creative ability.


LOL @ selling more albums. nowhere near even worth trying to compare.
She's already sold over 10 million albums, how many have Tyler or Faithfull sold?

Personally, I don't think she comes into the category of 'one of the best singers of our time', however she does have an excellent voice and great song writing skills. Her songs are great.

Pity she'll be dead soon with the car crash life she is holding right now. :(

I am indeed comparing 'comapring (sic) winehouse with the likes of whitney' and concluding that Winehouse is considerably better, for one thing Winehouse actually writes her own songs making her much more of an 'artist' that Houston will ever be.

By this logic, a singer who is not also a songwriter will always be a lesser artist than one who records material that they write, which is tosh. It's not a relevant point anyway, in regard to Whitney Houston, who is a songwriter.

Houston is little more than a manufactured karaoke pop star along the lines of Britney Speers (sic) of Christina Aguilera and they just aren't in the same league as someone like Winehouse who actually has creative ability.

Whitney Houston is a highly regarded and very talented singer; far from being a "karaoke pop star" as suggested.

Ironically, even though Whitney Houston has been connected to substance abuse, it would be easier to compare Winehouse to Britney Spears as both receive far more press for their off stage activities than their music performances. Whitney is known foremost for her talent.

I own no music recorded by of Whitney Houston, Bonnie Tyler or Marianne Faithfull and I've no interest in numbers of albums sold or star status but one thing I can say (and I know nobody has actually claimed this): anyone who actually believes that Amy Winehouse is a better singer than Whitney Houston needs to get their hearing checked.

By this logic, a singer who is not also a songwriter will always be a lesser artist than one who records material that they write, which is tosh. It's not a relevant point anyway, in regard to Whitney Houston, who is a songwriter.
And just how many of her hits did she 'write' then?

'Co-writing' (ie. changing the odd word on a track already fully formed be a professional songwriter) on album tracks for appearances sake just doesn't count, here's a link to her greatest hits (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fnfrxqwkldje), she's got a co writing credit on one single track.

In stark contrast Winehouse writes most of her own material including numerous hits written entirely on her own.

Whitney Houston is a highly regarded and very talented singer; far from being a "karaoke pop star" as suggested.
:huh: And the difference between being a 'very talented singer' and 'karaoke pop star' is what exactly?

Ironically, even though Whitney Houston has been connected to substance abuse, it would be easier to compare Winehouse to Britney Spears as both receive far more press for their off stage activities than their music performances. Whitney is known foremost for her talent.
Spears, Houston and Winehouse all have well known problems, of the three of them only Winehouse has written several worldwide hit's she is a musician and a star whereas Spears and Houston are simply producer driven manufactured popstars.

I own no music recorded by of Whitney Houston, Bonnie Tyler or Marianne Faithfull and I've no interest in numbers of albums sold or star status but one thing I can say (and I know nobody has actually claimed this): anyone who actually believes that Amy Winehouse is a better singer than Whitney Houston needs to get their hearing checked.
I don't recall anybody saying Winehouse was a better singer (Houston for all her lack of creative ability is obviously has great range and so forth) simply that Winehouse was a better artist, which she obviously is.

And just how many of her hits did she 'write' then?
No idea what songs she's written. I'd need to have all her albums to check and I'm not that keen to have any.

:huh: And the difference between being a 'very talented singer' and 'karaoke pop star' is what exactly?
:confused: It seems highly unlikely that a well respected singer would be described as the latter. Girls Aloud would strike me as the sort of act that might get that karaoke tag, using their limited abilities to cover tried and tested previous chart hits. Whitney Houston could sing most pop stars of her era right off the stage and her career is not based on cynical rehashes of the last decades top 10.

Spears, Houston and Winehouse all have well known problems, of the three of them only Winehouse has written several worldwide hit's she is a musician and a star whereas Spears and Houston are simply producer driven manufactured popstars.

To quote you previously: "Whitney Houston may well have been a bigger star that Winehouse will be". They're all stars aren't they and they're all popstars to boot. The difference is image and perceived credibility or 'cool'. Amy Winehouse is not a "better artist" than Whitney Houston because she writes much more of her material, she is just seen as cool by a greater proportion of the twenty-something music buying audience. Ironically for someone who writes her songs, the one that seems to be played over and above everything else was written by Steve Winwood.

I don't recall anybody saying Winehouse was a better singer (Houston for all her lack of creative ability is obviously has great range and so forth) simply that Winehouse was a better artist, which she obviously is.

Obvious to yourself, by your own standards (artists who don't write songs are lesser artists) but not obvious to all, since some of the greatest artists ever to record (I'm not thinking Whitney or Britney) were not songwriters at all, simply singers.