On several occasions in the last few months i have been out for a quiet drink with my girlfriend and friends, only to decide we'd head to a late bar / club.

However, on arrival at said establishments, we have been refused entry as the men are not wearing 'shoes'.

Every time we have been dressed - at the risk of sounding arrogant, both smart and stylish (i.e. not in t shirts / what i hear people refer to as chav labels), yet because a pair of slip-ons / couture sneakers / clean converse are being worn, we are deemed inappropriately attired.

This may sound like a generalised statement but seems that the only prerequisite is a pair of shoes. I see so many people out at the weekend looking 'scruffy', yet because they have on a pair of shoes, entry to bars / clubs is granted.

I respect that for many, shoes complement an outfit and differentiate between causal and smart. But when are bar / club owners going to realise that smart night our clothing for men is not limited to jeans, shoes and a shirt?

after several occasions you should know the rules . as for them being stupid , I agree .but what can one do ?.

Must admit Sheffield dress code can be a little odd to say the least, if in fact there is one,I know there used to be one, 'Smart/ Casual(designer) Smart, now I think its just, wear any old rag, after all most of em just seem to wear clothes to stop beer gettin in the chest hair :)
I keep seeing blokes in town wearing clothes I wouldnt wear to roll round a muddy puddle in :) Amazes me, loadsa blokes allegedly out on pull...all dressed like the contents of a Barf Bag, geez, whatever happened to making an effort and making an impression? I wonder if they realise making an impression involves not looking like everyone else,not wearing your beer or dribbling it and not blending seemlessly into the beer stained carpet :)

My daughter was commenting on clothes for a night out in Sheffield when she came up the other weekend.

She went out with her friends for a drink locally but then they ended up in town and were turned away by a bar, because she was wearing jeans. She found this strange as she said, you can get in anywhere in London in jeans, even into nightclubs, let alone a mongy bar.

I'm not sure of the dress codes in places like Manchester, Leeds and Nottingham? Maybe Sheffield has delusions of grandeur regarding clothes?

But when are bar / club owners going to realise that smart night our clothing for men is not limited to jeans, shoes and a shirt?

...I've never had any problems re. 'shoes' since I started dressing as a female for nights out, often in skyscraper 8" heels...
However, I do generally stick to Gay/Gay friendly bars, but I often also go to 'mainstream' venues such as Plug, Runaway Girl, Westway, Red House, Shakespeare, etc...

Dress code is a excellent excuse for denying entry. :suspect:

Dress code is a excellent excuse for denying entry. :suspect:
Are you disrespecting my family, Malky? Are you though? :o

I am hesitant to call them stupid alex3659, rather ignorant.

And the girls never have a problem - nor do we all the time.

If the rules in force are "one must look presentable", then some of the people that i see in the clubs / bars shouldn’t be allowed in.

I am not expecting to be allowed to enter wearing sports shoes / trainers (there is a difference, converse excluded, between trainers and the sneakers i mentioned). Rather, that the presentability of myself and my friends outfits as a whole is considered.

I don’t know, maybe I’m getting more impatient as I get older.

I just hate that there seems to be three accepted looks for a night out in Sheffield - “g star denim, all saints top and a pair of shoes", "scruffy sweater, stonewash jeans and shoes" or "jeans shirt and shoes".

It’s generic, boring, and if Sheffield are trying to attract a more stylish clientele, then people need to rethink the concept of men’s style.

Our dress code is quite simple.....no baseball caps or tracksuits..that nicely filters out all the trailer trash from next door....end of.......

Our dress code is quite simple.....no baseball caps or tracksuits..that nicely filters out all the trailer trash from next door....end of.......

I thought baseball/trucker caps were a fairly "rock" item of clothing ?

if a place has a no-trainers, jeans whatever dress code, then it prob means its not worth going to

if a place has a no-trainers, jeans whatever dress code, then it prob means its not worth going to

I kind of agree. If it's the kind of place that only lets you in if you're wearing a shirt, jeans and supposedly 'smart' shoes, then it's not worth going to!

I never go for the whole shoes, jeans and a shirt look as it makes me look like I'm out to get trashed with 'the boys' and maybe looking to get in a fight or two (as it does with maybe 80% of guys who wear it).

I once turned up at a nightclub in Donny and was refused entry due to my shoes having a trendy little metal strip on the front. I was wearing a 3 piece suit at the time with shirt and tie. I guess they didn't like the look of me?

On another occasion, I went to a nightclub in Nottingham. I queued for ages only to be told at the door, "you can't come in here without a jacket". It was a warm summer's evening and I'd not considered wearing a jacket. Not only that, but I am from Chesterfield and we don't wear jackets there anyway.

Not to be outdone, I approached a group of girls who were heading towards the same club. One was wearing a velvet jacket - ideal! So I asked if I could borrow it in order to gain entry (to the club that is) and because I was so charming (as most of you have already gathered) she lent it to me. Back in the queue again for the club, I was on the threshold of entering when the same ape in a dinner suit spotted me and recognised me as the bloke who tried to get in half an hour earlier without a jacket. He took one look at this velvet jacket, with the sleeves about 18 inches too short and stretched out across my back as tight as a drumskin, and said, "sorry, you can't come in here wearing women's clothes".

I guess he still didn't like me?

I once turned up at a nightclub in Donny and was refused entry due to my shoes having a trendy little metal strip on the front. I was wearing a 3 piece suit at the time with shirt and tie. I guess they didn't like the look of me?

On another occasion, I went to a nightclub in Nottingham. I queued for ages only to be told at the door, "you can't come in here without a jacket". It was a warm summer's evening and I'd not considered wearing a jacket. Not only that, but I am from Chesterfield and we don't wear jackets there anyway.

Not to be outdone, I approached a group of girls who were heading towards the same club. One was wearing a velvet jacket - ideal! So I asked if I could borrow it in order to gain entry (to the club that is) and because I was so charming (as most of you have already gathered) she lent it to me. Back in the queue again for the club, I was on the threshold of entering when the same ape in a dinner suit spotted me and recognised me as the bloke who tried to get in half an hour earlier without a jacket. He took one look at this velvet jacket, with the sleeves about 18 inches too short and stretched out across my back as tight as a drumskin, and said, "sorry, you can't come in here wearing women's clothes".

I guess he still didn't like me?

I Suppose You then have to put the Jacket in the cloakroom for £2 as soon as you get it as well! LOL! Just another excuse to make money! If I had a Club/Bar the only rule I would have is No Sports Clothes tracksuit bottoms footy tops etc/ typicalFooty Hooligan brands, and everything else goes! No Wonder places close down if they turn away custom for such p**sant reasons!

I Suppose You then have to put the Jacket in the cloakroom for £2 as soon as you get it as well! LOL! Just another excuse to make money! If I had a Club/Bar the only rule I would have is No Sports Clothes tracksuit bottoms footy tops etc/ typicalFooty Hooligan brands, and everything else goes! No Wonder places close down if they turn away custom for such p**sant reasons!

yes, but to be honest, I am ugly as a bag of spanners as well.:(

our dress code is quite simple.....no baseball caps or tracksuits..that nicely filters out all the trailer trash from next door....end of.......


so according to you, all people who wear ball caps are trailer trash?! Are you an imbecile? When i was in new york, not one club/bar turned us away for wearing jeans/caps/bandana's or trainers. As long as we were spending money and not causing any trouble, we were made very welcome - something pubs in england should adhere to. I've long since known that certain pubs in sheff have delusions of granduer, so you can shove the Dove and Rainbow up your arse. We've also been turned away from certain pubs - including witherspoons chain - for wearing uniforms. Again, in the states, people are proud to have forces personel in their establishments. Our money spends elsewhere now, in places that accept that a man wearing trainers/hat/jeans, is not an instant trouble maker. Before any smart arse wants to try and tell me about 'ooh the cameras need to see a persons face' - load of ********. I've trained people in security & serveillance & a hat is a positive identity target. Plus - when have you ever seen anyone fighting still managing to keep their hat on? (let alone shirt)
all these dress code rules are simply some prat who owns a bar wanting to be a snobby ****. I've part-owned a bar myself & we never had any trouble in two years. People dressed how they wanted. So again - shove the Dove up your arse. R.marines

I hope it hasnt taken you 2 years to think up that response....

I hope it hasnt taken you 2 years to think up that response....
Whos going to be the first one to point out that goldenfleece is a person and not a pub :hihi:

Oh, that would have been me then :D


Damn, he edited as I was typing :hihi:

iv had many problems like this around sheffield city centre "nightlife". me and my OH planned to go out for a freinds birthday so we both dressed appropiatly. we qued to get in a bar only to be told "those shoes arnt acceptable" (which were black smart shoes btw) and when i politely asked why he replied "they look too much like rockport" which are asssoicated to football hooligans. i then asked the bouncer what shoes are acceptable he replied "trainers " . my OH had planned to wear trainers but i suggested not to as i had been in bar before which refuse trainers. after another 10 minutes of debating at the door the bouncer finally desided to let us in , when we did eventually get in the bar i found it rather amusing that there was a particular male who was dressed in a stone island jumper and wearing the dreaded ROCKPORTS.

Usually OK unless rockports

Usually OK unless rockports

iv had many problems like this around sheffield city centre "nightlife". me and my OH planned to go out for a freinds birthday so we both dressed appropiatly. we qued to get in a bar only to be told "those shoes arnt acceptable" (which were black smart shoes btw) and when i politely asked why he replied "they look too much like rockport" which are asssoicated to football hooligans. i then asked the bouncer what shoes are acceptable he replied "trainers " . my OH had planned to wear trainers but i suggested not to as i had been in bar before which refuse trainers. after another 10 minutes of debating at the door the bouncer finally desided to let us in , when we did eventually get in the bar i found it rather amusing that there was a particular male who was dressed in a stone island jumper and wearing the dreaded ROCKPORTS.
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Must have been a 'Mate' of the Bouncer's so he was "Alright"

Things like this are just typical of exactly what and why I can't stand about going out in Sheffield. The whole hypocritical/inconsistent nature of these "Rules" and if you do somehow manage to get in there's usually idiots in there anyway who have managed to 'sneak through' the "Fullproof" Security System.

So basically non-troublemakers will have to suffer and have their nights out spoilt because of previous actions of others they have no afflilation with other than maybe occasionally wearing the same brand of clothing?

Why simply changing an Item of Clothing makes a person more/less likely to cause trouble I have no Idea and if you try and argue your case you'll then be seen as a trouble maker anyway.

Makes me wonder how these places manage stay open the way the Alienate people so often?

On several occasions in the last few months i have been out for a quiet drink with my girlfriend and friends, only to decide we'd head to a late bar / club.

However, on arrival at said establishments, we have been refused entry as the men are not wearing 'shoes'.

Every time we have been dressed - at the risk of sounding arrogant, both smart and stylish (i.e. not in t shirts / what i hear people refer to as chav labels), yet because a pair of slip-ons / couture sneakers / clean converse are being worn, we are deemed inappropriately attired.

This may sound like a generalised statement but seems that the only prerequisite is a pair of shoes. I see so many people out at the weekend looking 'scruffy', yet because they have on a pair of shoes, entry to bars / clubs is granted.

I respect that for many, shoes complement an outfit and differentiate between causal and smart. But when are bar / club owners going to realise that smart night our clothing for men is not limited to jeans, shoes and a shirt?

Which bar was it? Personally, I've never had any bother in terms of being aloud into any bar in town because of what I'm wearing. Occasionally not let in because of the amount of beer I've drunk, but thats common place at most town centre bars.

I'm not sure why Sheffield as a city is being blamed for all this - I've lived in Manchester on and off as much as I have Sheffield, still go out boozing there fairly regularly, and consistently find the problem with dress codes, nonsensical rules and boneheaded door staff to be infinitely worse than it is here in Sheff....

so according to you, all people who wear ball caps are trailer trash?! Are you an imbecile? When i was in new york, not one club/bar turned us away for wearing jeans/caps/bandana's or trainers. As long as we were spending money and not causing any trouble, we were made very welcome - something pubs in england should adhere to. I've long since known that certain pubs in sheff have delusions of granduer, so you can shove the Dove and Rainbow up your arse. We've also been turned away from certain pubs - including witherspoons chain - for wearing uniforms. Again, in the states, people are proud to have forces personel in their establishments. Our money spends elsewhere now, in places that accept that a man wearing trainers/hat/jeans, is not an instant trouble maker. Before any smart arse wants to try and tell me about 'ooh the cameras need to see a persons face' - load of ********. I've trained people in security & serveillance & a hat is a positive identity target. Plus - when have you ever seen anyone fighting still managing to keep their hat on? (let alone shirt)
all these dress code rules are simply some prat who owns a bar wanting to be a snobby ****. I've part-owned a bar myself & we never had any trouble in two years. People dressed how they wanted. So again - shove the Dove up your arse. R.marines

lol massive fail

I'm not sure why Sheffield as a city is being blamed for all this - I've lived in Manchester on and off as much as I have Sheffield, still go out boozing there fairly regularly, and consistently find the problem with dress codes, nonsensical rules and boneheaded door staff to be infinitely worse than it is here in Sheff....

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I've been out in both places too and yes of course certain places in Manchester will be as bad just like in a lot of cities round the U.K but have had less hassle on the many occasions going out there than in a lot of places in Sheffield even on infrequent occasions of going out there nowadays.
The places that would give you hassle in Manchester ain't worth going to anyway.

Sheffield Bouncers play on the fact of the lack of places to go outside the West St/Division St area so they know people are more likely to 'play ball' with stupid rules, and anyone who dares to question them can easily be dismissed because they will only have the same problem elsewhere in a similiar place so the venue isn't really going to be losing custom to rival bars.

Never had any problem getting in to any bar/club in Sheffield because of how I was dressed be it jeans, trainers, shoes, trousers, shirt, t-shirt. It's just an excuse for them to deny entry to big groups of lads, ugly people or big guys they are a bit worried they won't manage to throw out. Some friends have been refused because of trainers when I am wearing them too. Pointing this out to door staff is normally met with a response of "no they're different trainers".

bouncers in sheffield are excellent in comparison to those i have experienced in my home county of kent. very friendly and lenient.

and if you are dim enough to argue with a bouncer, then i think they have made a wise decision not letting you in in the first place.

It will never change.
About thirty years ago I took my then girlfriend in to town for drink, we were refused entry into the Mucky Duck. When I said I was wearing proper shoes and the doorman had no reason to refuse me entry he said " yes, but she is wearing trainers".

and if you are dim enough to argue with a bouncer, then i think they have made a wise decision not letting you in in the first place.

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If they can't give a clear justifiable reason for not letting you in and they aren't even being consistent with 'the rules' then why shouldn't you question it?

They are there to stop trouble esculating and ban the people who have 'actually' caused trouble in the past, not to play 'guessing games' with the people have done nothing wrong and who 'may or may not' cause trouble if that is the 'best' system they have then how come you still see people they do let in cause trouble?

"Innocent til proven Guilty!"

Asking them a question in a non threatening way doesn't make you a troublemaker, why should we accept everything they say as 'Gospel' If they are professional people they should be able to reason with reasonable people in a calm verbal manner and only use excessive force as a last resort.

The Irony is they will allways assume the 'group of guys' are allways the problem but they are the ones who spend more money and affective pay their wages!

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If they can't give a clear justifiable reason for not letting you in and they aren't even being consistent with 'the rules' then why shouldn't you question it?

because it is a private establishment, you do not have any sort of right to enter, they can choose to let in who they like, and once they have made their mind up, you should accept it, rather than crying and whining.