Is it just me or does anyone else think that Tottenham must be laughing their box off at the idea of selling Berbatov for £20+ million?

Berbatov's had two seasons. In the first season he was good for the first half of it, and disappeared in the second half. Last season he was nowhere to be seen for the first four months, and got a bit better in the second four. When he's on form, sure he's pretty to watch, but he's hardly Ronaldo now is he?

WHEREAS.... Robbie Keane - Produces the goods year in, year out. Team player, works his socks off and scores when he's asked/needed to. Consistently superb. I know who I'd rather have in my team.

I am seriously puzzled by the disparity in reputation. Puzzled? No... GOBSMACKED.

Yeah I never thought about it really.

Also he wasnt exactly amazing at Leverkusen.

I would take Dimitar any day of the week. He needs a stage like Old Trafford. He can offer another 25% of what he did at Spurs.

Whereas Robbie is operating at 100% already.

I don't think Berbatov gets great service at Spurs. There's no-one who can deliver a cross from the left and Lennon's final ball is woeful. If Spurs buy Bentley, things could change on that front.

But it's the same every year with Spurs, if only blah blah...

If Spurs buy Bentley, things could change on that front.

But it's the same every year with Spurs, if only blah blah...

They don;t need Bentley; they've alrewady bought Modric.

Nice as it would be to have a team full of creative players, Spurs' problem is that they don't have an aggressive "enforcer" type player in Midfield, like all the successful sides have. Bentley's the last player they should be signing.

They don;t need Bentley; they've alrewady bought Modric.

Nice as it would be to have a team full of creative players, Spurs' problem is that they don't have an aggressive "enforcer" type player in Midfield, like all the successful sides have. Bentley's the last player they should be signing.

This is the current roster of central midfielders for Spurs:

Didier Zokora
Teemu Tainio
Jermaine Jenas
Steed Malbranque
Kevin-Prince Boateng
Tom Huddlestone
Jamie O'Hara
Giovani dos Santos
+ Modric and a couple of others who seem surplus to requirements.

The roster for wide midfielders or wingers is
Aaron Lennon and ... er ... that's it.

You can't rely on going through the middle all the time, defences will just snuff you out too easily. Anyway, the comment was about getting the best out of Berbatov. As it is, he can link up play by being a target man, but if you want him to score more often, you have to provide him with decent crosses from out wide. Spurs haven't got a single player who is capable of supplying quality crosses, hence the Bentley comment.

Having said all that, Spurs like every other team outside the top 4 do need an aggressive enforcer. Maybe Huddlestone can step up, it would be good for England if he can.

I said it in the OP and I'll reiterate... Berbatov - Flatters to deceive. Lazy and only effective for half the time.

Robbie Keane - Genuinely top class striker. Got the skills, the creativity and the work and team ethic to thrive at a major club.

What's all the fuss about Berbatov for?

I said it in the OP and I'll reiterate... Berbatov - Flatters to deceive. Lazy and only effective for half the time.

Robbie Keane - Genuinely top class striker. Got the skills, the creativity and the work and team ethic to thrive at a major club.

What's all the fuss about Berbatov for?

Berbatov is a better goalscorer and to me its a no brainer who is the most creative.

Keane has played 11 years first class football, games played 352 goals scored 129.
Berbatov---------10--------------------------------------273--------------121
Source Wikipedia

Both of them are not prolific goalscorers up to present, mind you if Manchester United sign him up they could finish with a Eric Cantona reincarnation.

Both great players on their day but in my eyes, Keane has many more of these type of days. He is by far the more consistent player.

Berbatov however, will compliment Utd perfectly. He won't have to work too hard as Utd have the ball the majority of the time, which will allow him to do what he does best, which is create and score goals!

Keane to Liverpool, i'm absolutely delighted about. Keane will put in the graft throughout the game, scoring 20+ goals throughout a season as well as creating many more. A perfect foil for Torres in my opinion! A fantastic all-round player!

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Tottenham must be laughing their box off at the idea of selling Berbatov for £20+ million?

Berbatov's had two seasons. In the first season he was good for the first half of it, and disappeared in the second half. Last season he was nowhere to be seen for the first four months, and got a bit better in the second four. When he's on form, sure he's pretty to watch, but he's hardly Ronaldo now is he?

WHEREAS.... Robbie Keane - Produces the goods year in, year out. Team player, works his socks off and scores when he's asked/needed to. Consistently superb. I know who I'd rather have in my team.

I am seriously puzzled by the disparity in reputation. Puzzled? No... GOBSMACKED.

I'd always thought that they were different type of players, with Berbatov a target type centre forward who likes the ball played into his feet. Keene however is an intelligent creative forward, who likes to drop off the front. I think they both complement each other well.

As a Chelsea fan, I'd rather have Berbatov as a direct replacement for Drogba who is hopefully leaving us in the near future; I think Keane would struggle in this role. Man Utd are also in need of a similar striker, so would also take Berbatov ahead of Keane. Liverpool already has a top drawer striker already, but could do with a creative forward playing off him. Keane seems to fit that bill very well, so out of the two Keane is the more attractive option.

It is all about horses for courses.

Can see Keane at Liverpool and Berbatov at Man Utd doing a fantastic job,think Liverpool will have to change their style of play a bit to accomodate Keane but it will be worth it.
Cant understand why spurs would even consider letting them go though,they are nothing without them

....[edited]... It is all about horses for courses.

I can see what you're saying, but my disbelief is more to do with the hype and reported prices. Berbatov generates all the headlines and all the wild figures, yet to my mind Keane is the better player.

I agree with your Fivetide. Keane always gives his best and has done at all the clubs he has been with- I think he found a home at White Hart Lane and I will be sad to see him go- being a Spurs fan.

I rather lose Berbatov and we pocket the £20m+ and use it to get in a new striker(s). I hope Keane does not go. The attraction could only be Champions League football if he does want to go.

Lets sell the two B's (Berbatov and Bent).

Cant understand why spurs would even consider letting them go though


They haven't done yet; hence the complaint to the FA about Ferguson, who is doing exactly the same thing in regards to Berbatov that he was so furious about Real Madrid doing in regards to Ronaldo...

They haven't done yet; hence the complaint to the FA about Ferguson, who is doing exactly the same thing in regards to Berbatov that he was so furious about Real Madrid doing in regards to Ronaldo...

Not quite true - Ferguson stated that a bid had been made to Tottenham and he was confident the deal would go through. Madrid haven't made a formal offer, they have instead tried to destabilise the player BEFORE making a bid.

My guess would be that they are hoping that if Ronaldo throws a strop at United, then the club won't be able to demand the transfer fee they might expect if Ronaldo was happy.

I'm not saying there aren't distasteful parallels, but the phrase 'exactly the same thing' is inaccurate.

Not quite true - Ferguson stated that a bid had been made to Tottenham and he was confident the deal would go through.

...in spite of having been formally informed that Berbatov is not for sale, and requested to end his interest.

...in spite of having been formally informed that Berbatov is not for sale, and requested to end his interest.

Oh absolutely. I don't think Man Utd are the paragons of virtue in football, and there are certainly similarities between the whole Madrid/Ronaldo and Untited/Berbatov situations, but the phrase you used was 'exactly the same thing'.

As I know how passionate you are about the accuracy of posts I thought I'd help you out a bit: You seem to have been confused by the meaning of the word 'exactly'. :hihi:

I do however agree with the sentiment, however awkwardly it was expressed.

(I see Fergie has now denied ever making the statements that prompted Tottenham's complaint to the F.A.)

You have made a fool of yourself, as has Levy.

Ferguson at no time mentioned Berbatov by name - The Sun simply guessed it was him and printed the story.

Who's the fool? I say anyone willing to pay £20 million plus for Berbatov...

They haven't done yet; hence the complaint to the FA about Ferguson, who is doing exactly the same thing in regards to Berbatov that he was so furious about Real Madrid doing in regards to Ronaldo...


Wrong again
You need to change your signature,as i have said before what you know about football you could write on an ants arse

Berbatov is one of the most talented players in the Premiership. Robbie Keane isn't (although he is a very good finisher). Please, go and watch some videos of Dimitar. There's no other player in the Premiership I enjoy watching more. The cup game when they beat Arsenal 5-0, Berbatov didn't score a single goal, but if you see the full match, he was stood just inside the opposition half, pinging through balls in of immense quality for pretty much the entire match. When the ball comes to him, he looks like he has all the time in the world and nearly always picks out a decent pass. Spurs have become my Premiership team to follow because of this player.

The man's a genius!

He ain't no genius. Genius involves as much perspiration as inspiration. Berbatov has got a few skills that make him look good, for sure. So did Faustino Asprilla. So did Lee Sharpe. So did Keith Gillespie. All of them match-winners on their day. All of them over-rated in their day. They soon got found out though, mostly for thinking they were better than they are, and being lazy boogers to boot.

The odd little trick and being able to dink a pass with the outside of the boot does not equate to genius.

(NEKRO138 please note - the examples used were deliberately naff. Berbs is better than that, I know. Not genius, but better than Gillespie at least. When it comes to footy talk I do tend to exaggerate! :P )

If he does go to Manchester United, I've a feeling that we'll see just what he is capable of. I'm not the sort of person to tag people as a genius lightly but if you just watch him for a full game, you'll see just how good he really is. The Reading game where he scored four wouldn't be a bad one to see!

Um... you think I haven't seen him? I watched him plenty over the last two seasons... when he's good, sure - he's good. But he doesn't do it often enough.

No, I don't think you have seen enough of him. That's to be expected though. Spurs matches don't get the coverage. That'll change if he goes to Man Utd though.

Yeah. And Jemal Johnson's better than Ronaldo. No, really. You've just not seen him play when he's on form. And I can fly, it's just you've never been around when I did it. :P

I think we'll just have to agree that we ain't gonna agree on this one. ;)

Funny how only a few months ago Spurs supposedly had the best crop of strikers in the Premiership in Defoe, Berbatov, Keane and Bent. Defoe's already gone and, if you believe the papers, the other three are off to Man Utd, Liverpool and Sunderland respectively.

Will Spurs be fielding a 5-5-0 formation this coming season?

Ok, we will. Also, I know that you can make anyone look good in two and a half minutes of footage, but enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt63U66NOaY

The technique and improvisation for the goal against Reading and the last goal are WORLD CLASS.

And it doesn't have that free kick he scored in it against West Ham either.

Funny how only a few months ago Spurs supposedly had the best crop of strikers in the Premiership in Defoe, Berbatov, Keane and Bent. Defoe's already gone and, if you believe the papers, the other three are off to Man Utd, Liverpool and Sunderland respectively.

Will Spurs be fielding a 5-5-0 formation this coming season?

They've decided to sign nothing but midfielders this season. I think they're trying to mystify their opponents with their senseless tactics. Wait for the 2010 season when Juande fields a team of goalkeepers.