......still walk into pubs at quarter to eleven on a Sunday night and look incredulous when they're told that time was called at half ten.

Why aren't they given a simple guide to licencing laws in freshers week?

Why do student walk down West St on a sunday night shouting and singing thinking that its hilarious,dont they realise people actually live here.Doesn't really bother me but i feel sorry for those living near street level.

That's because all the police seem to disappear after 11pm and leave the streets to be noisy and chaotic. :(

Originally posted by Geoff
That's because all the police seem to disappear after 11pm and leave the streets to be noisy and chaotic. :(
The reason they disappear at that time is that you have to be in the pub before it closes to have any chance of a lock in.

Tsk, city pubs. The local in my town is as good as open 24/7 and nobody cares.

think its fine to just walk straight into the road without looking and expect to not be hit and horned (?) at by someone who has just stoped abruptly to avoid knocking them down. And they dont say thanks or owt. they just keep walking oblivius

FOR STUDENTS

A ROAD = PASSAGWAY FOR CARS
CROSSINGS = SAFE PLACES TO CROSS A ROAD
CAR = VEHICLES - MAY HURT IF YOU ARE HIT BY ONE!!

Looking forward to Sheffield becoming a 24 hour city so that students can be sick around the clock.
PS And why do they always order coleslaw with their takeaway and never eat it.

in answer to the original question - because becoming a student automatically turns most people in to mindless morons

This the most redundant thread i have seen on this forum.

Firstly, i would like to make mention that while i am a student both living as a resident and a student in this city - not all students are rowdy when walking down the streets. I live in a heavily populated student area of sheffield - and suprisingly, we don't get our cars broken into around here, nor late night remits of 'I LOVE YOU BABY and if its quite alright.....'. Maybe some of the gleadless/pitsmoor/manor folk dont know which bus to catch to get to my area!! Thank God.

Secondly, you will find that the vast majority of students are fully aware as to when the pubs shut and how to cross the roads - a small minority should not tar an entire and (dare i say it) a large percentage of residents in Sheffield.

Thirdly, i think it should be fair to suggest that you take the rough with the smooth on this issue. No students = fewer bars, fewer jobs, fewer diversification of shops. Through the board, Sheffield wouldn't be half the city it is today if students werent living and studying here. While i appreciate that the West St. person was only mildly aggrieved by the noise on West St. and offered consideration to other residents - i say this, if you moved to a coastal town to establish your beachfront abode - would it then be right to complain that you are getting sand in your shoes???
I can only assume that West St accommodation refers to those big stylish appartments. well they wouldnt be there if the atmosphere was lacking. As for the other houses - get ready to move out - the funky home builders will knock down your houses soon - either in favour of more big stylish appartments or even a big NCP car park to accommodate for all the cars the council are trying to rid off the streets.

Essentially - a crap thread. Oh and by the way ''Merry Christmas everybody''

the words le toser spring to mind

Originally posted by panda79
the words le toser spring to mind

ooh dear a bit harsh perhaps? :o

they do have a point you know!

We were all young once, you know (and I am sure that some of you still are!)

There must be 50,000 students in Sheffield - not all of them are carousing down West Street every night - mnay of them actually end up with degrees, which means they must read the odd book or two whilst they are here.

University - the Fountain of Knowledge where students come to drink

Its quite scary to think of Sheffield WITHOUT students!!!! in the Summer it is dead-city, but without the 2 Uni's here, Sheffield WOULD become much much less than it today. Half the clubs would close for good (not sure if thats a disadvantage however), most of the bars in Student areas would fold, Broomhill, Hunters Bar, etc. We would see Sheffield sink to the status of an anonymous non collegiate town, and become run down, bland and excessively dull.

1. If you don't like noise, why buy a home above a mile long street of pubs and takeaways?

2. I don't believe students are as stupid as they look.

I think students contribute a lot to Sheffield in many ways. They doubtless contribute to the economy significantly, but also in terms of cultural diversity, and a lot of the things we have here simply wouldn't be there if the students weren't either.

And surely having several thousand new residents in a city every year invigorates a place.

However I do have to agree about the crossing the road thing, and plead guilty. When I was a student I too was nearly knocked down most days. I have no idea what it was about being a student that made me incapable of crossing a road sensibly, but as soon as I graduated I thankfully regained the ability :)

Also loads of the population of Sheffield are those of us who came here as students then stuck around cos we liked it so much.

I think that's a really good advertisement for the city.

I think Sheffield, like any major University City, benefits in key ways. There is the economic factor above all, that students bring MILLIONS of pounds into the city in terms of their spending power, providing jobs for thousands in bars clubs and shops. Most of the growth in the City economically is due to student numbers increasing and changing the economic status of Sheffield into a booming, growth town. less than 20 years ago Division Street and West Street were dull and lifeless places. Ok, perhaps the bar culture has got out of hand, but thats NOT unique to Sheffield. Nottingham is far worse.....

And the most amazing thing happens each year in September: the city has a new influx of life blood, another 10,000 or so new students, each with significant spending power. Students are in no way as poverty stricken as some believe, they are usually far better off then you may think: after all they spend millions each year in bars and clubs, give Sheffield landlords a good income, buy clothes and contribute to the overall economy. I am sure several bus routes would have gone to the wall had it not been for student numbers.

As I said, try to imagine Sheffield without students: it would become a stale and stagnant place, no life, no change, in fact suffer a slow and lingering death.

less annoying though

Originally posted by kittykat
less annoying though

Lol!! :lol:
I totally agree with that!

Can I just say that I am not one of the students that likes to cause a fuss. Granted, I like a drink, but I don't lose all control when I've had a few like many students seem to do. All this crap about students nicking traffic cones and road signs annoys the crap out of me, I just can't see the point in it.

Lots of support for students on this thread.

I guess that means that the lazy so and so's have just got out of bed and thought they would have a surf on the web before they got busy being parasites on the tax paying comunity.....

Originally posted by firsteuro
Lots of support for students on this thread.

I guess that means that the lazy so and so's have just got out of bed and thought they would have a surf on the web before they got busy being parasites on the tax paying comunity.....
What a well thought out post.

maybe if students didnt whinge as much they would not be hated as much as they are

I don't hate students. I reckon without students in the city... the centre would be dull/mundane/boring of a weekend.
And throughout the week too I suppose.

OK 'some' cause trouble... but on the whole the diversity of the backgrounds these visitors bring to our city is great.

I hold no malice towards the 'majority' of students, I reckon they're great.

Long may they study in our fine city. :thumbsup:

By the way, for those who don't know me... I'm not a student.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Students bring money, diversity, music, ideas, politics, languages and cuisine to this city, and with something like 10,000 arriving every year, and a few staying on, their influence has been longstanding and beneficial.

Just a few students....
-are incredibly rude
-cannot communicate without shouting
-cannot get their money out before the bus arrives
-are here for the sex, drugs and rock and roll only
-make terrible neighbours

:P

Ok OK

After reading all the comments made subsequent to my last post on this issue - i can now add that this purpose is finally making sense to me.

I was infuriated to be labelled alongside the other students - who seem to lack any level of self-decorum.

Agreed about traffic objects prizes. Its about time students came up with a new and novel idea - bearing in mind that the trolleys, cones, signs, posters were once original ideas in their time, but that was then and this is now. Perhaps we can ship all the minority trouble students and send them off to lands afar - like outer mongolia.

It is important to remember that sheffield is still considered by many from below the midlands, as a poor city with nothing more than cobbly hills, flat caps, whippets, and 'ee bi gum'.
It is the students that return back home during holidays that spread the words of a city of culture, dimension, and a unique style. As a knock-on effect, their friends visit, spending their pockets of cash. Inevitably - there will always be exponential growth in the economy here, as long as student growth continues. Support the students, we ironically will hold the future success and redevelopment of this beautiful city, in a rather peripheral way!!

Oh by the way - if you chuck eggs at any students (not literally of course) make sure they are aimed that those from Sheffield University. Us lot down SHU are an alreeet bunch of ppl. So person complaining about lack of study and random ambling on website issue, i invite you down to the Adsetts centre and see how hard some of us work at stupid o'clock in the morning. The drinking culture is a facade, it appears that you have to look and feel like crap to be a convincing student. Just wish i could get some of that myself LOL

**Jumps off Soapbox**

Now, I'm note a student but I am a drinker, and us drinkers were on West Street long before all those overpriced trendy apartments were built. West Street has always been primarily shopping by day, drinking circuit by night, and NOT a residential area, so anyone moving in should know exactly the score and cannot really complain.

Actually, another question, in Sheffield why do all these city living blocks of flats, sorry, apartments, seem to be built in inappropriate places - West One in the middle of the drinking circuit and then the Kelham Island ones in the heart of the red light district.......

Originally posted by Andy C
Now, I'm note a student but I am a drinker, and us drinkers were on West Street long before all those overpriced trendy apartments were built. why do all these city living blocks of flats, sorry, apartments, seem to be built in inappropriate places - West One in the middle of the drinking circuit and then the Kelham Island ones in the heart of the red light district.......

Well said about West Street. Who would want to live in the City centre anyway, dirty, polluted, noisy as hell. This city living concept is not new, it was briefly fashionable in Cities in the 1960's, but went out of favour very quickly, as it will do within the next few years again, and we will be left with clapped out slum inner city housing again. IT WILL HAPPEN! These places are far too expensive for what they offer, and are shoddily built with I would imagine a very short life span overall. I would give them 25 years and they will be demolished......and thats pushing it. By that time they will ook the old Broomhall flats which fell/came down in the mid 80's, total derelict eyesores. In fact, they are a total badly designed eyesore now, and dont fit in with any of the architecture in the areas. Waste of money, time, space!!!!

I have been in those West one flats and they are ghastly, poky and very badly insulated. You can hear everyone, people on the bog above you, below you and beside you, plus traffic noise and all that so called wonderful urban living experience. Not for me....or anyone I know come to think of it. I visited a friend there a month ago and she had problems with students chucking up all over the entrance way, a real sloppy mess of lager and curries. This is modern desirable living? And on top of that a couple of tramps were demanding alcohol funding outside, which really did my head in. Walking out and being swamped by crowds of puking students is not my idea of heavenly surburban life....IT STINKS ROUND THERE AT THE WEEKENDS.

They've been built to try and imrpove those areas, and to try and bring commercial business back into the city centre, following the decimation that occured when meadowhall was built...

I live on church street in an 'overpriced appartment block' - which isn't overpriced, and is very pleasant actually!! Although there are only 7 flats in my block...

i dont think sheffield would really be a city without students..

No it would not be a city without students, but the vomit piles might be a bit smaller. they just CANNOT CONTROL their drink intake.....so sad.

well in mate.

West Street and vomit.

I think the two will forever be inextricably entwined. Who here, of a certain age, does not look back fondly on the old West Street crawl of the early 70s? Starting at The West End and taking in as many of the hostelries possible before finishing in The Dog & Patridge?